Quote from: TheSocialEngineer on September 21, 2012, 12:43 pmQuote from: damaged on September 21, 2012, 04:41 amI have read news stories of people selling bread croutons as crack cocaine. That wasn't LE. That was actual dealers selling to actual users and they got away with it. Well, they got busted by LE who thought they were selling crack. Funny thing is, selling fake drugs is also illegal.If you sell bread croutons to an undercover cop and claim it's 10 grams of crack, you will get charged with selling 10 grams of crack. So you might as well sell 10 grams of actual crack, except you don't have 10 grams of crack. You're just a piece of shit, trying to scam people with bread croutons. And now you have a crack conviction and 5 year mandatory minimum prison sentence.Selling bread croutons as crack is illegal? I could see it maybe as being fraud (lol), but how can they bust you for selling drugs when its not drugs?Ask for the Australian government for their rationalization of it. I have no idea and I think if I tried to work out their labyrinthine mindset about what is or isn't legal I'd be dribbling at the end of it.For one thing, almost no drug users or dealers I know IRL (SR is another thing completely, we're leet) actually know the percentages and quantities distinguishing possession from intent to supply. Well, the MDMA merchants I know do, but then again people who sell various kinds of amphetamines tend to be fairly streetwise (and wired) because their margins are thinner than most. This is because the law is not remotely transparent in many places about these things. In many situations, even the lower level LE agents don't even know what constitutes a felony. This means when they go on a raid, they sometimes don't know whether they are putting a door hammer to some typical drug consumer or some dude who's been preparing for that day like fucking Rambo or something. This kind of unproductive obfuscation leads to all kinds of horrible calamities on both sides of the drug war.I'm not sure if this is deliberate, but there is such a huge gap between reality and the law, that if you walk across state lines with 1 gram, that's right, 1 gram, of heroin, you could be thrown in jail for a couple of days or you could go to prison for the rest of your natural life and there is really no way to distinguish between these outcomes in most cases. I wish I was joking, but I can find you references to back this up. This may not be the case in all countries, but it sure as hell is the case in the US of A. This turns the concept of punishment = an example is made = crime is prevented into some kind of sick sordid joke.This results in a situation, where a lot of RL drug vendors actually take risks which are way over the top in comparison to the reward, which implies this strategy, whatever the rationale is, is definitely backfiring. We got oddles of Law, but Order seems to be a much rarer beast.