Quote from: LouisCyphre on August 03, 2012, 07:55 amQuote from: pine on August 03, 2012, 06:20 amIt is time to listen to the Ride of the Valkyries comrade. Today is where PGP Club gets to the next level. We cross from Stage Two to Stage Three of our grand master plan. We are at 150+ members, but that is not enough. I'll rest easier when we have another zero on that & there are SR PGP Club t-shirts. I may need some help either bypassing the 20 per hour PM limit or get it temporarily lifted to 100 or more to spread more PGP propaganda. So, if you and Guru and any other supporting members of PGP Club are about, then roll up and we'll shift at least couple of hundred messages via the forum's mass mailing service.I doubt I'll be able to do this quite as fast as you, but I'll do what I can. There are some non-SR things on my plate. ;)What! But PGP Club is Life itself! LOL! What I'll do is give you guys stacks of 10 to shotgun at a time to forward on the message. Then when you post that 10, come back to me and ask for another 10 etc, that way you don't have to hang around or anything and can post them at your leisure.Quote from: LouisCyphre on August 03, 2012, 07:55 amQuote from: pine on August 03, 2012, 06:20 amI have collected every last supportive comment for privnote on these forums. Yes, really. Every one of those people is going to get informed of their tragic tragic mistake and be given an opportunity to repent. Otherwise, To the Wall of Shame! :DIt's a shame, but I think this may be the only way to drive the point home to some of the dangers of what they're doing here.Anyone involved in a transaction could get done for conspiracy. I haven't even purchased anything and I could still get done for facilitating numerous crimes in assorted jurisdictions. It wasn't that long ago that cryptography of the strength we're using was classed as a munition and restricted for export. It was PGP which changed that game (with a healthy boost from ecommerce).Precisely. For the greater good, ha!Quote from: LouisCyphre on August 03, 2012, 07:55 amQuote from: pine on August 03, 2012, 06:20 amWe must be kind to the reformers and not to the recidivists comrade.They have the opportunity for the warm embrace of Club PGP or they can sit in the corner to be relentlessly mocked by their more evolved brethren.PGP Club! Not. One. Step. Back.Today. PGP becomes THE Standard. Time to turn the wheels of our incredible propaganda machine.PGP or Die comrades. Nationalism has nothing on PGPism, it is weak for we are cryptographically strong. 8)You really are enjoying this revolution. :DWell, those Communists had all the fun in the 20th century, I think it's about time the Anarcho-Capitalists (or Libertarians broadly speaking) waved a few flags too to get the message out there. We have a birth right to do so given the West's history. Actually it's likely to go far beyond simple flag waving thanks to the likes of RIPA and SOPA. Not the laws themselves, but the spirit of them that permeates the government's approach to technology. They are ignorant bastards and no mistake.When your typical Western government has moved to the far right of the Laffer Curve and consumes or controls > 50% - 60% of GDP, it is inevitably the case that the tide will whipsaw in our favor with public sentiment. I expect a sharp hike to 70% or more of GDP in taxation across the West due to the debt burden and QE, and then I expect the youth of the West to fall in with us one way or the other, irrespective of left or right wing political philosophy. It will not be a "French" or "Greek" thing, where people typically have had more revolutionary ardor than most countries, no, it is going to be a fire that will sweep the entire globe, a new kind of World War, an international civil rebellion. Why?Centralism, that incompetent political philosophy is raping the West's spirit and sapping its traditional strengths. The reality is that there will never be peace between the Socialists and the Capitalists, and nor *should* there be. Our sparring makes the world a better place by spurring original thought and innovation. Today's Western world is characterized by a stalemate, what the Chinese proverbs refer to as "too much water, too much fire or not enough water, not enough fire".See, at the end of the day most geeks are Libertarian in their mode of philosophy. And we geeks are about a decade ahead of the average person in the population in terms of technological uptake. Thus we are at the edge of what is to come. We don't represent a significant percentage of the population, but we do represent an exceptionally powerful and well heeled part of it in comparison to just about anybody else.You should remember that Revolutions are not started by the proletarians in reality. It's always the middle classes that kick this off. Mao, Lenin, Stalin, all leaders of the proletarate were definitely not farmers or factory workers. Collectively we've been modelling the world in our image for the last two decades, replacing long obsolete technologies such as the telecom industry infrastructure with VOIP to mention just 1 thing by creative coding and ignoring the traditional rules. The Internet is inherently a Libertarian playground. The world is surely becoming increasingly Statist, but not cyberspace so much, any definitive reply to the State begins here, from the Darknet, from the imageboards, with movements like Anonymous and Lulzsec being tiny tremors of what is to come.Left or right, whether wealth distribution or wealth accumulation is the issue isn't quite the important thing right now. Right now the important thing is that the right wing and left wing forms of Statism are far too powerful. Libertarians of all stripes (with the crypto-anarchists in the vanguard to secure comms channels and create independent financial networks) are simply itching to go to war against the State, you can see that everywhere, not just on this board. Maybe a Cold War, if we are fortunate, but also perhaps something a little warmer. I wouldn't be remotely surprised to see bombings, targeted assassinations, mass poisonings, attacks on major installations and so forth, there's a great many people willing to take up arms against the State and their numbers are only growing. If the State begins to interfere too much in the cyberworld, and it almost definitely will, then it's going to find that's a very fucking bad idea ASAP.Think about it. I'm leaning heavily towards NAP (non aggression principal) in general as a libertarian and I still think that. It's like watching a fucking blind blue whale swimming into a shoal of enraged piranhas.You're pissing off a bunch of people, whose ranks are almost entirely populated by male 20-somethings with skills in things like manipulating computer networks, computer programming, black market chemistry, arms dealing, drug manufacturing, money laundering, military grade cryptography and smuggling, not to mention over nyan thousand degrees of paranoia. That's a fine skillset for any conflict driven organization, and this is a very distributed network with concentrated knowledge in those very fields, because you know, we are geeks and nothing is done by half measures.Then throw in universal support from testosterone driven 4chan and the other influential clearnet forums and imageboards, and you got at least thousands of potential shock troops to take physical risks for a cause (e.g. image in your mind's eye the State murders somebody like Julian Assage, which is not exactly a theoretical possibility), as well as god only knows how many potential informants at every branch and level of government. The State's surveillance programs would be stretched to infinity just looking at anybody who is a redditor. Higher levels of taxation, the welfare systems and negative job growth will ensure people get hungry, but not quite hungry enough to STFU, and hungry/angry/fearful people lose their faith in the system and rebel because they have to and because they can.So in summation, if you were looking for a fantastically stupid place to start a civil war, this is a great place for it. We are not afraid of the government, NAP or no. They should fear us instead. A war always sounds like a fantastically silly idea when you've never experienced one, and today the State has civil servants with just that right blend of naivety and arrogance to set the blaze.Having said that, it'll probably be some RL incident first, like an state sponsored assassination or pre-emptive foolishness.