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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: Pfandleiher on April 17, 2013, 08:15 pm

Title: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: Pfandleiher on April 17, 2013, 08:15 pm
Soon open for business,
expect business as usual in the good old days
u can also expect improved packaging, but still fast as lightning, + a clear refund and FE policy, whatever, but this time we dont mix shit up aight?
Shipping prolly worldwide, not sure about AUssis though.

Gonna start with Mandy Candy

cheers

PS: Dont flood mailboxes please :) we already been there
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Post by: tina on April 17, 2013, 08:28 pm
First

Ummmmmm where are your listings ??!!

I want to be your first USA customer
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Post by: MangoSeason on April 17, 2013, 08:30 pm
This is great to hear! Hopefully you can work out a good policy for Aussies.

If your using the methods in this thread then you shouldn't have many problems:

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=119458.0
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 17, 2013, 08:33 pm
Listings will be up soon enough, this time i wont rush and pay the price afterwards.

However, this is going out to the old dogs who still know me :)

If you dont know me, just wait a month or so hehe

cheers
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Post by: Dankbank1 on April 17, 2013, 09:24 pm
Glad to see you back, not like you really left but, back vending ;) put me down for a heft chunk of that molly
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Post by: tango on April 18, 2013, 12:10 am
You fucked alot of people on your way out last time you were vending
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Post by: Froggy on April 18, 2013, 01:50 am
Bring back those pills  you had! Especially the Swastika one HAHA :D
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Post by: thegreenmachine on April 18, 2013, 02:41 am
The Silk Road is a windy, bumpy one :)

My first vending run, I sold like crazy (couldn't stay in stock), had 300+ bitcoins, price crashed to $3. It's easy to get carried away by all the mad rush of customers when you have quality product.

I'll be keeping an eye out, loved your molly...

Now if SKYY comes back...
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Post by: moksha on April 18, 2013, 03:25 am
Why no Aussie shipping Pf?  ::)
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 18, 2013, 08:31 am
You fucked alot of people on your way out last time you were vending

Now you stop that crap boy !
there was 1 (one) 25G listing i messed up and it wasnt shipped.
All the others where 100% shipped.
I really had better things to do than fucking with my customers, except for those cocaine order refunds, but lets forget about that shit.

I will definitely try aussi shipping and see how it goes. just dont wanna get you guys too exited
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\ VOTE NOW !!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Pfandleiher on April 18, 2013, 08:36 am
Ok, Im running a Poll now to see what you guys are up for.
You may vote twice
Title: Oh shit ! Price war !
Post by: Pfandleiher on April 18, 2013, 10:46 am
I just checked out the MDMA prices of the other vendors, they wont like me !!!!!
HAHAHAHA
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Post by: 12345 on April 18, 2013, 11:46 am
wb. sir.
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 18, 2013, 05:15 pm
ok, got it all figured out, I gonna start shipping

1st May 2013, the LATEST !
Listings will be up about one week before that.
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Post by: tina on April 18, 2013, 05:21 pm
I mostly care about crazy fast shipping times.
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Post by: Tsygootti on April 18, 2013, 06:02 pm
Subbing!

Looking forward to this, I've heard nice things about you :)
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Post by: Gusman17 on April 18, 2013, 07:26 pm
Glad to see you're back Pf! You made me and a lot of other people very very happy last summer.
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Post by: Iconoclastic on April 18, 2013, 08:21 pm
Excited to see your return, PF!  I never had the pleasure of working with you before you left, but once reviews start coming in with your new batch, I hope to develop a nice long relationship.

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Post by: DeadRa7 on April 18, 2013, 08:35 pm
subbing

Please whore that molly bitch out to the world again like you did last year...let's make some fuckin' money man!
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Post by: Andrewbud420 on April 18, 2013, 09:20 pm
you still owe me on an order that was short.
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Post by: lala123 on April 18, 2013, 09:54 pm
Swastikas please!  ::)
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Post by: Nero on April 18, 2013, 10:05 pm
you still owe me on an order that was short.

Pf owes me an entire order, he ran off with my money.


Maybe you should make up with the people you fucked over before starting again. You wont get far with bad karma around your neck.
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 18, 2013, 10:11 pm
Ok heres the deal, after those ppl who ran away with my money give it back to me ill forward it aight?
stop playing around. We all know there is not that much of a bad karma around my neck.
I was #1 for a reason!
if this shit starts all over again i just wont hang around in the forums, thats it.
All i can do is offer you guys good service at best prices,
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Post by: MangoSeason on April 18, 2013, 10:29 pm
Will you be using MBB's Pf?
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Post by: aviator on April 18, 2013, 10:38 pm
Cant wait.
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Post by: Hippiehaven1234 on April 18, 2013, 10:42 pm
Welcome back!
Lets work from where we left off ;)
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Post by: snickerlover6969 on April 18, 2013, 10:43 pm
WOW! My dreams have come true! PF I can' t wait for your return! Still to this day nobody has ever come close to your shipping (3 days to `SE USA)

How much will you be doing 500g for?
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 18, 2013, 10:59 pm
What are MBBs ?

the half key should be around 7750$, but right now there is a mdma shortage, so i will start of with smaller quantities, thats also good to gain some reputation again ;)

Still nice to see some nice comments ;)
Love ya'll :*

BTW: i just sucked that number out my finger ;)
mom says its bed time now, cya
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Post by: i push the kush on April 18, 2013, 11:02 pm
Pleeeeeeease put up a 250G listing  ;D If you could do it for $4000 I will buy it as soon as you put it up!
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\ VOTE NOW !!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Pfandleiher on April 18, 2013, 11:04 pm
Pleeeeeeease put up a 250G listing  ;D If you could do it for $4000 I will buy it as soon as you put it up!

now thats wut im talkin bout, USA right?
will def. consider that

good night
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Post by: snickerlover6969 on April 18, 2013, 11:09 pm
What are MBBs ?

the half key should be around 7750$, but right now there is a mdma shortage, so i will start of with smaller quantities, thats also good to gain some reputation again ;)

Still nice to see some nice comments ;)
Love ya'll :*

OK sounds good, I'll just keep an eye out for when you do offer BULK listings  ;)

you still owe me on an order that was short.

Pf owes me an entire order, he ran off with my money.


Maybe you should make up with the people you fucked over before starting again. You wont get far with bad karma around your neck.

Both of you guys should just slap yourselves.  Especially Andrewbud,shit happens, I see you posting in Dutch's thread complaining on an order that he still owes you! LOL come on dude, really? Complaining isn't going to get you far in SR and IRL. Both you guys need to act like men and not like no lil sissys.
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Post by: i push the kush on April 18, 2013, 11:13 pm
Pleeeeeeease put up a 250G listing  ;D If you could do it for $4000 I will buy it as soon as you put it up!

now thats wut im talkin bout, USA right?
will def. consider that

good night

Yes sir, I'm in the USA!! I will LOVE you if you do that! Your product was the flamest shit on here! I'm so excited for this FUCKING EPIC return  ;D
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Post by: Andrewbud420 on April 18, 2013, 11:26 pm
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Both of you guys should just slap yourselves.  Especially Andrewbud,shit happens, I see you posting in Dutch's thread complaining on an order that he still owes you! LOL come on dude, really? Complaining isn't going to get you far in SR and IRL. Both you guys need to act like men and not like no lil sissys.

Read more in to the thread. The dude promised 100% refunds..... a handful of people saw nothing come back. So you're telling me people get burned they should just STFU about it?  Dutch is an ignorant prick.

In PF's case.. He was short on an order... Promised to make it back next time and disappeared.  Had great shit and was a good guy all around with my dealings with him in the past.....
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Post by: MrImporter on April 18, 2013, 11:28 pm
What would be your price on 100g orders?  Would love to sample 100g first before diving on half kg's or full kg's if you allow it (USA)   :)
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Post by: snickerlover6969 on April 18, 2013, 11:37 pm
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Both of you guys should just slap yourselves.  Especially Andrewbud,shit happens, I see you posting in Dutch's thread complaining on an order that he still owes you! LOL come on dude, really? Complaining isn't going to get you far in SR and IRL. Both you guys need to act like men and not like no lil sissys.

Read more in to the thread. The dude promised 100% refunds..... a handful of people saw nothing come back. So you're telling me people get burned they should just STFU about it?  Dutch is an ignorant prick.

In PF's case.. He was short on an order... Promised to make it back next time and disappeared.  Had great shit and was a good guy all around with my dealings with him in the past.....

Trust me I know how much of a prick Dutch was personally.  I don't think he actually sent to the wrong address I believe they were never sent.

As far as Vandleiher goes, just put yourself in his shoes.  This guy NEVER required FE.  And people took advantage of this.  I ordered from him right smack in the middle of his fiasco around mid July not knowing what to expect. 3 days later...what do you know.... So I was really confused on why dozens and dozens were claiming no shows.  And he was #1 for months, imagine how many customers he had, I'm sure he doesn't remember all of them and doesn't keep track of every single order.  I've gotten shorted 8g-14g before, and there's nothing I could do about it.  We are already lucky enough to get quality MDMA for uber cheap, so why bother to complain?

What would be your price on 100g orders?  Would love to sample 100g first before diving on half kg's or full kg's if you allow it (USA)   :)

And If I remember correctly his 100g orders are aroun $2,000.  He is a TRUE OG and is the one who broke MDMA prices on the road!
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Post by: Andrewbud420 on April 18, 2013, 11:43 pm
I have no beef with PF.... Guess I am still sour from my current dealings with SR vendors...

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Post by: Mike Hunt on April 18, 2013, 11:57 pm
I chose the ten gram option because if I am going to have to go thru customs then I don't want to do it too often. Plus I would rather pick the choice that you would actually do tracking with. It's too easy for vendors to say they sent it and then just give you some of your money back if it doesn't show.

I'm not saying that PF would do this but it's happened to me three times now and no love letter ever appeared either. I don't know if PF even offers a tracking option. I know he has great reviews from other Americans but those are mostly for 10 grams or more. Also the ten gram option is the best money saving deal without it being so big of an order that it would hurt you financially if it got lost.

I been here over a year and PF has been here the whole time when I have seen a lot of vendors come and go.
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Post by: snickerlover6969 on April 19, 2013, 02:35 am
I chose the ten gram option because if I am going to have to go thru customs then I don't want to do it too often. Plus I would rather pick the choice that you would actually do tracking with. It's too easy for vendors to say they sent it and then just give you some of your money back if it doesn't show.

I'm not saying that PF would do this but it's happened to me three times now and no love letter ever appeared either. I don't know if PF even offers a tracking option. I know he has great reviews from other Americans but those are mostly for 10 grams or more. Also the ten gram option is the best money saving deal without it being so big of an order that it would hurt you financially if it got lost.

I been here over a year and PF has been here the whole time when I have seen a lot of vendors come and go.

If you've been here for a year then you should no PF is a mo fuckin B0$$!! I don't think you would have to worry about him not sending your 10g. And I don't recall if he offered tacking, but I don't believe he did, and that's why so many people started to scam him. If I recall his profile page said" oh and btw, don't FE! ;)"
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Post by: ColdFrost on April 19, 2013, 05:59 am
Good to see your back PF. Hope to get back to the way it was back at the beginning.
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Post by: MangoSeason on April 19, 2013, 06:23 am
What are MBBs ?

Moisture barrier bags. So the smell doesnt permeate through the packaging.

This method is proven to beat sniffer dogs. Would be worth looking into for your customers safety. It would also mean less refunds/reships for you.

Oh yeah, say hi to your mum for me..
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 19, 2013, 06:37 am
my mom says hi back

im really glad you guys got my back ;)

well i will look into those bags, but the last time i checked single or double vac sealing totally got the job done.

of course i will offer tracking again, but dont ask me if you have to sign for it or not. for the states, its different from region to region or even state to state, who the fuck knows.
maybe you can find something in my old review thread but i guess its just toooooo fucking long.

dont ask me about all them prices ;) you know im the FUQING PriceBreaker!

good morning btw

PS: last time it took me a bit longer to get 100 fans hehe :) appreciate it guys !
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Post by: DeadRa7 on April 19, 2013, 07:33 am
my mom says hi back

im really glad you guys got my back ;)

dont ask me about all them prices ;) you know im the FUQING PriceBreaker!


About those prices, pf, I second what another member stated about a 250G pack for around 4k.  If you can deliver me that same amazing quality product at speeds unlike I've never had from any other vendor from that side of the world, then every two weeks we will be conducting transactions of this magnitude.  Maybe not even that long :)

I have been hurting since you left, and while dutchaanbod made a decent replacement, he too vanished without a trace suddenly and ever since then no other vendor that I've gone through has compared to the level of service you offered me back last summer.

This is fucking perfect your coming back right before festival season, lets do this man. 
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Post by: Holly on April 19, 2013, 07:55 am
Do we have an ETA?
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 19, 2013, 08:42 am
yeah i already said the first shipemts will go out May 1st the latest.
i will try to be a bit faster, but rushing just messes things up :) as we learned in the past
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Post by: zeke on April 19, 2013, 09:24 am
Oh my god!  I am so excited to hear this!  I'll see ya soon! By the way, why did you make a new account on the forums, and SR?  Why not just stick with the original?
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 19, 2013, 09:55 am
fear of prosecution? :D

and the Pfandleiher account on SR has 210BTC depts (cash advance) and a rating of 80 :D LOL, so yeah, thats why ! ;)
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Post by: PePinJeNek on April 19, 2013, 12:48 pm
Good to hear your coming back. 8)

Take in mind however that the game
has changed a little since you left.

Peace

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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 19, 2013, 12:52 pm
Good to hear your coming back. 8)

Take in mind however that the game
has changed a little since you left.

Peace

how has it changed?
and how about we just change it back? :D
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 19, 2013, 01:20 pm
And could some of you guys please tell me what FE & Refund policies you would find reasonable ?
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Post by: Gusman17 on April 19, 2013, 01:29 pm
my mom says hi back

im really glad you guys got my back ;)

well i will look into those bags, but the last time i checked single or double vac sealing totally got the job done.

of course i will offer tracking again, but dont ask me if you have to sign for it or not. for the states, its different from region to region or even state to state, who the fuck knows.
maybe you can find something in my old review thread but i guess its just toooooo fucking long.

dont ask me about all them prices ;) you know im the FUQING PriceBreaker!

good morning btw

PS: last time it took me a bit longer to get 100 fans hehe :) appreciate it guys !

While the basic vac sealing did get the job done, it would really put a lot of customer's minds at ease if you switch to MBB. I know I wouldn't mind paying a little extra for that reassurance. Last summer I received a large order from you and as soon as I opened the mailbox I could smell it. With your great prices, I know I would spare a few more dollars for more peace of mind.
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 19, 2013, 01:43 pm
Never mind, i already got'em ;)
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Post by: Dankbank1 on April 19, 2013, 01:51 pm
You dont need to vac MBB bags I think a hair straightener will work theyre heat sealed. And they are kick ass please use then pf you'd be #1 then easily.

How bout a 50% refund or 50% resend? I think that's fair, for anyone waiting more than a month or so. You have any idea of what your policy will be?
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Post by: PePinJeNek on April 19, 2013, 01:56 pm
And could some of you guys please tell me what FE & Refund policies you would find reasonable ?

What do you mean refund & FE policies.?

All your stuff always arrived so this won't
be necessary :D

But in case you lost your touch or gotten a bit rusty
I think a 1 free resend or 75% refund worldwide no
exceptions period.

Good to hear your coming back. 8)

Take in mind however that the game
has changed a little since you left.

Peace

how has it changed?
and how about we just change it back? :D


More eyes on Deutchland. :-[
Fuck yeah make it happen 8)

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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 19, 2013, 02:04 pm
well that just had to happen sooner or later, but i think we can deal with it.

and what would you say, how much should a customer have spent at least before he can place an order?
i really dont care if 0/0 guys order shit, but some of them are scammers.
and with my way too low prices, i cant take too many scammers , u dig? :D
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 19, 2013, 03:09 pm
I am working at my terms and conditions atm, if you have any suggestions, just let me know.
you can view them on my profile
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 19, 2013, 03:51 pm
Now here's the plan:
Every listing will be listed twice, once with once without tracking.
Now the one without tracking will be ridiculously cheap, BUT you have to FE and leave 5/5 in order to have it shipped.
The ones with tracking will still have great prices but of course a bit higher as they provide 25%-75% Refund or reship

What do you guys think?

Title: Price List , ALPHA VERSION
Post by: Pfandleiher on April 19, 2013, 04:22 pm
Tan    100 GRAMS LOVE = WITH TRACKING    $1,950.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    100 GRAMS LOVE = WITHOUT TRACKING    $1,450.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    50 GRAMS LOVE = WITH TRACKING    $1,000.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    50 GRAMS LOVE = WITHOUT TRACKING    $750.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    25 GRAMS LOVE = WITH TRACKING    $540.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    25 GRAMS LOVE = WITHOUT TRACKING    $400.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    10 GRAMS LOVE = WITH TRACKING    $280.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    10 GRAMS LOVE = WITHOUT TRACKING    $170.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    5 GRAMS LOVE = WITH TRACKING    $140.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    5 GRAMS LOVE = WITHOUT TRACKING    $95.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    1 GRAM LOVE = WITH TRACKING    $40.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    1 GRAM LOVE = Without Tracking    $25.00    0    edit | delete
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Post by: h1n1z2 on April 19, 2013, 04:58 pm
Swastika pills please
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Post by: Sero Tonin on April 19, 2013, 05:34 pm
Swastika pills please


yeah i wanna get some of these  :D

combo packages??? on small-ish orders...like 10grams 20 pills or so.
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Post by: MangoSeason on April 19, 2013, 07:59 pm
Never mind, i already got'em ;)

+1 mate that is awesome news.

Your going to absolutely kill it on here with those prices.

Prepare for a storm, it's headed your way.
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 19, 2013, 08:11 pm
And please stop it with the swastikas, the feds here in germany have started a special task force, only for those pills :D they really didnt like the logo too much :D LOLOLOL

so yeah, if you have one, keep it, it might be worth a lot in a few hundred years lol :D
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Post by: DeadRa7 on April 19, 2013, 08:13 pm
I'll be ready for you!  Next week I'll get my btc together, I want to be on the first 20 people to place an order and hopefully post a glowing review for you-just like the 'ol days.
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 19, 2013, 08:20 pm
I really think i will have to post the exact time when the listings gonna be up, because i have the feeling i gonna be sold out in 15 minutes :D

What do you guys think about my new concept? risky but worth it ?
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Post by: DeadRa7 on April 19, 2013, 08:31 pm
I really think i will have to post the exact time when the listings gonna be up, because i have the feeling i gonna be sold out in 15 minutes :D

What do you guys think about my new concept? risky but worth it ?

I just sent you a message on SR my dude
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 19, 2013, 08:41 pm
I really think i will have to post the exact time when the listings gonna be up, because i have the feeling i gonna be sold out in 15 minutes :D

What do you guys think about my new concept? risky but worth it ?

I just sent you a message on SR my dude
*yawn* already answered :) hehe
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 19, 2013, 08:53 pm
just letting you know that I will prolly add a 3rd listing (with better refunds/reships) of any quantity for well known customers, with whom i had good experiences in the past, or those who have perfect buyer stats.
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Post by: DeadRa7 on April 19, 2013, 09:54 pm
just letting you know that I will prolly add a 3rd listing (with better refunds/reships) of any quantity for well known customers, with whom i had good experiences in the past, or those who have perfect buyer stats.

Danke!!!!  ;D
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Post by: MrImporter on April 19, 2013, 10:42 pm
I would pay $12,000 + whatever shipping may be for a kg shipped to the US and I would FE.
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Post by: snickerlover6969 on April 19, 2013, 10:47 pm
Lol you always had a sense of humor! Glad to have you back PF! Please let us know ahead of time of exactly when your listings will be up! I don't wanna miss out!! ;)
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 20, 2013, 04:16 am
I would pay $12,000 + whatever shipping may be for a kg shipped to the US and I would FE.

as soon as the crysis is over we may talk about that one ;)


And yes of course i will do my best to let you know in time when they will be up
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Post by: Iconoclastic on April 20, 2013, 05:25 am
just letting you know that I will prolly add a 3rd listing (with better refunds/reships) of any quantity for well known customers, with whom i had good experiences in the past, or those who have perfect buyer stats.

This sounds very interesting to me as I think I would meet your requirements for this category.  But fuck (haha), all your other listings sounds pretty phenomenal as well.  $400 for 25g?  $540 WITH TRACKING!?  Shiiieeeeeeet.  My only regret is that I was too scared to order internationally before you went on your hiatus.  You don't ever stray from your expertise, do you?  Any chance that LSD or MDA will ever make it into your listings?
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 20, 2013, 05:37 am
just letting you know that I will prolly add a 3rd listing (with better refunds/reships) of any quantity for well known customers, with whom i had good experiences in the past, or those who have perfect buyer stats.

This sounds very interesting to me as I think I would meet your requirements for this category.  But fuck (haha), all your other listings sounds pretty phenomenal as well.  $400 for 25g?  $540 WITH TRACKING!?  Shiiieeeeeeet.  My only regret is that I was too scared to order internationally before you went on your hiatus.  You don't ever stray from your expertise, do you?  Any chance that LSD or MDA will ever make it into your listings?

MDA, dont think so
LSD? Hellya its in the making, guys in the labs need 1-1.5 months, and since i also started taking some cid, im really on it :D
But LSD is still somehow hard to get here, so dont get too exited. It wouldnt surprise me if the fail or some shit like that.

BTW: i make those cheap ass prices because for me its just a nice way to buy some coins haha :D
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Post by: Iconoclastic on April 20, 2013, 05:46 am
 ;D You better stop what you're doing right now, PF.  Or you're going to make a LOT of people VERY happy!   ;D
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 20, 2013, 05:49 am
;D You better stop what you're doing right now, PF.  Or you're going to make a LOT of people VERY happy!   ;D

Well thats my job isnt it?
Im really not here for the money, i just love the lifestyle and the fame :D
unlike Mr. Supertrips crying about losing (and having) 1.5 million dollars and STILL charging 22000+$ for a KG? Dafuq u serious?
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Post by: paddymiller on April 20, 2013, 05:58 am
Welcome back PF.

Hope you can work something out for AU.



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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 20, 2013, 06:00 am
Welcome back PF.

Hope you can work something out for AU.

ill try my best since aussi customers are great to deal with ;)
And i love the show about the customs at the airport :D
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Post by: Bronangen on April 20, 2013, 06:24 am
Welcome back brother, I've missed you. Makes me very happy to see things turning once again.

May I say, please be on top of the scammers and cheaters. Do not want to see them take you down.

Good luck Pf, and I hope to be doing business with you soon. As soon as I see those listings
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Post by: Bronangen on April 20, 2013, 06:27 am
But one thing, what happened to your old forum account? This one was created in February.
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 20, 2013, 06:31 am
I deleted it on purpouse, security reasons.
I really miss it though!
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Post by: Iconoclastic on April 20, 2013, 06:40 am
Hmmm... Why is it cheaper to get 5x 10g than it is to get 50g?

I know you have a reputation for great prices, service, etc. but things like that throw up major red flags especially with the strong incentives to FE...

Still very interested, but as always, I'm going to wait until reviews from trusted members come in.  Soon as the do though...  ;D
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 20, 2013, 06:44 am
do the math again, maybe u accidentally mixed up non tracked with tracked ?
the difference this time is that i have a worker and wont touch shit myself.
since there is no risk for me and im not starving, why not offer great prices and fuck other vendors?

However, if 5x10g untracked/tracked is cheaper than 1x50 untracked/tracked then i messed up and will correct it, thats why i called it alpha version ;)
i made the prices in like 20 minutes

EDIT: i double checked, i just think you didnt pay too much attention in 4th grade ;) JK :*
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Post by: Iconoclastic on April 20, 2013, 11:44 am
Hey, just 'cause you got them special learning buildings over in Germany doesn't mean I went to them here.  And I'm pretty sure multiplication is relative to sleep deprivation.  So I stand by my wrong maths and encourage others to advertise their own ignorance as blatantly.  ???  ;)
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 20, 2013, 01:37 pm
Hey, just 'cause you got them special learning buildings over in Germany doesn't mean I went to them here.  And I'm pretty sure multiplication is relative to sleep deprivation.  So I stand by my wrong maths and encourage others to advertise their own ignorance as blatantly.  ???  ;)

well, im glad we figured that one out :)
me hates them learning buildings too ! :D
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Post by: PePinJeNek on April 20, 2013, 02:51 pm
well that just had to happen sooner or later, but i think we can deal with it.

and what would you say, how much should a customer have spent at least before he can place an order?
i really dont care if 0/0 guys order shit, but some of them are scammers.
and with my way too low prices, i cant take too many scammers , u dig? :D

$500+ Is a good amount

But I just read your first post,
You're not sure about if you will
post to Aus??
Bist du krank?? why? we never had
any issues just be a stealth guru mate.

I would be seriously disappointed if you
lower yourself to take such actions  :-\

Be better, Be Pfandleiher :D
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 20, 2013, 03:00 pm
yeah you are right there were no big issues but them aussi customs adjust fast :)
anyways, i AM shipping to aus, just dont expect much more than 25% refund, so you guys better just order without tracking right away ;)
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 20, 2013, 03:53 pm
But to be honest right now im not really sure if i can even offer the 25% for australia since the tracking stops when its dispatched to australia, am i right? well maybe it has changed.
i have to think about it.

I think i will have rather high requirements when it comes to spent $ and refund rate.
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Post by: MangoSeason on April 20, 2013, 08:19 pm
Better to cover your ass from low stat scammers in that respect.

You clearly have a large following of well established members so you can afford to lift the minimum requirements.

You can always drop them in time as well if need be.
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Post by: subzero on April 20, 2013, 09:38 pm
welcome back to game PL I wish them all the best for their businesses uf SR and have heard and read a lot of them;-)
they offer coke again soon?

greetings
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Post by: ciaobingo on April 21, 2013, 12:00 am
they offer coke again soon?


and so it begins.......again
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Post by: atlas on April 21, 2013, 12:47 am
Nice to see you back PF!
Are you gonna list weed too?
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Post by: tomleepdx on April 21, 2013, 01:24 am
And could some of you guys please tell me what FE & Refund policies you would find reasonable ?

No FE No refund.
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Post by: iamonion on April 21, 2013, 02:28 am
This seems AWFULLY fucking suspect right now.
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Post by: Nero on April 21, 2013, 05:48 am
This seems AWFULLY fucking suspect right now.

I agree completely with this.

Let me count the ways.

1. New Forum Account
2. His old vendor account lists a new vendor account? why?
3. He's requiring FE for no-tracking...
4. He has returned at a very interesting time in BTC economy.
5. Most vendors returning after failing their customers usually return to scam again off of good faith and past relationships.
6. his language and page style are completely different from the past.
7. In relation to #4 he said "BTW: i make those cheap ass prices because for me its just a nice way to buy some coins haha"

   What exactly do you mean by that?

I'm sorry but your good prices and previous record on a DIFFERENT account don't mean shit, you might as well be a new vendor. I'm simply amazed at how much money people are willing to throw at you RIGHT as you return. Are you fucking retarded? Wait for reviews and quality tests BEFORE ORDERING A KILO FROM A VENDOR WHO HAS RETURNED IN HIGHLY SUSPECT FASHION.

Can anyone verify his old PGP key?
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Post by: PePinJeNek on April 21, 2013, 07:05 am
This seems AWFULLY fucking suspect right now.

I agree completely with this.

Let me count the ways.

1. New Forum Account
2. His old vendor account lists a new vendor account? why?
3. He's requiring FE for no-tracking...
4. He has returned at a very interesting time in BTC economy.
5. Most vendors returning after failing their customers usually return to scam again off of good faith and past relationships.
6. his language and page style are completely different from the past.
7. In relation to #4 he said "BTW: i make those cheap ass prices because for me its just a nice way to buy some coins haha"

   What exactly do you mean by that?

I'm sorry but your good prices and previous record on a DIFFERENT account don't mean shit, you might as well be a new vendor. I'm simply amazed at how much money people are willing to throw at you RIGHT as you return. Are you fucking retarded? Wait for reviews and quality tests BEFORE ORDERING A KILO FROM A VENDOR WHO HAS RETURNED IN HIGHLY SUSPECT FASHION.

Can anyone verify his old PGP key?

Yeah mate I'm on the same page.

PF your policies are way stricter than b4.(Aus especially)
this never used to be an issue in the past.
Different seller and forum account.?
FE without tracking??? This is something you never used
to do? sounds allot like your buddy afterhour.

You have changed man :D  :P

 
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 21, 2013, 09:44 am
Guys, i dont expect anybody to order without tracking.
I am just creating a great opportunity for those who trust me , thats all.

and i came here for a reason, i wanted to create some policies with you guys.
now do you have a better solution for cutting under those other vendors and still be safe? (refund scam-vize)

and no, there wont be coke or weed nor anything.
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Post by: snickerlover6969 on April 21, 2013, 11:28 am
You guys are sketching way too hard! It's obvious it's him! He announced at the end of last year that he "might" come back at the beginning of the year, but only to sell hash. If you guys actually had an actual conversation with him you would know that his English is very good and he always cracks jokes.

Of coarse he has to have stricter policies, his policies were very laxed last year and he got fucked over. If you guys notice, every vendor on the road that's been around for a year has made their policies more strict than they first started out. Just sayin...
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Post by: tootiefruitie on April 21, 2013, 12:18 pm
Pfand's syntax and sentence structure was nowhere close to what Pfand2.0 types like.

Think about this guys... if 10 people buy a 100 FE listing, then this would be well worth it...but i'm sure it will be much higher than that.

The people who have already spoken up are right.

THE ORIGINAL PFAND'S PGP/GPG KEY:

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I've predicted quite a few scams in the past, AND I HAVE NEVER BEEN WRONG.
I'd be ecstatic if this happened to be the first time...but it won't be.
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 21, 2013, 01:19 pm
Some of you should really quit the drugs.
You do realize that i put my original pfandleiher account back online, and linked it to my new account?
(there is a link in every mdma listing)

So if you still dont believe its me, theres nothing i can do for you.

cheerio
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Post by: tootiefruitie on April 21, 2013, 05:17 pm
Maybe it's you.  Or someone who somehow obtained your old account password (paid for it? old partner?) But let's assume you're the OG...that proves you can't possibly be a scammer!  You didn't fuck over tons of people on your way out and end with a low rating or anything. So, JUMP RIGHT IN GUYS!

You must have treated everyone great to get your old account up to an impressive (80) rating. (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/ce03fa47d8)

So about your gpg key: do you just not have a safe/reliable way to store sensitive data, or did you do away with it in the name of "efficiency"?

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Post by: biglubes on April 21, 2013, 06:31 pm
The saga continues - wu tang.



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Post by: Bronangen on April 21, 2013, 06:33 pm
All I had to do was check your old vendor page, Im sure this is Pf guys:)
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 21, 2013, 06:52 pm
bad rating (80) started when i sent out the bad mdma, and cancelled it right after, but the customers could still give me a feedback, mostly 1/5 because they didnt understand,
there were also a looooot of guys who got their letter after 4-6 weeks, but before that they got refunded and gave me 1/5.
deep inside u all know i did my best so STFU please !
However, theres no need to argue here, order or leave it, i dont mind

cheers
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Post by: stinkybreeze on April 21, 2013, 08:26 pm

WONDERFUL  to see you back PF!!!  You were 5/5 all the way every single purchase. You were also my first mdma ounce purchase which had me sweating balls, but came in perfectly.

WELCOME BACK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: fidocscentral on April 21, 2013, 09:37 pm
Subbing.

Dis gun b gud regardless if it turns out to be real or not.
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Post by: dr octagon on April 22, 2013, 01:14 am
The doubters should just sit back and let all of the charmed fanboys order and see what happens.

Don't waste your energy...



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Post by: Nero on April 22, 2013, 03:53 am
bad rating (80) started when i sent out the bad mdma, and cancelled it right after, but the customers could still give me a feedback, mostly 1/5 because they didnt understand,
there were also a looooot of guys who got their letter after 4-6 weeks, but before that they got refunded and gave me 1/5.
deep inside u all know i did my best so STFU please !
However, theres no need to argue here, order or leave it, i dont mind

cheers
You tried your best? You rush bought Kilos of MDMA because your customers were yelling at you to get more and your normal guy was out. You then sent out those kilos of BAD product. Why wouldn't you even test the shit? Especially if you're buying from someone new? Are you dumb?

The way you handled the situation was awful and you put alot of people at risk, because you were fucking greedy.

Would you want to buy from a vendor like that? No.

I admit PF, I was a fan for a long time, and then you messed up bad. I don't think you deserve another chance. You put people at risk of bad drugs and getting caught because of greed. That's inexcusable in my book.
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Post by: collarbones on April 22, 2013, 04:29 am
Subbing as an interested Aussie
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 22, 2013, 04:36 am
bad rating (80) started when i sent out the bad mdma, and cancelled it right after, but the customers could still give me a feedback, mostly 1/5 because they didnt understand,
there were also a looooot of guys who got their letter after 4-6 weeks, but before that they got refunded and gave me 1/5.
deep inside u all know i did my best so STFU please !
However, theres no need to argue here, order or leave it, i dont mind

cheers
You tried your best? You rush bought Kilos of MDMA because your customers were yelling at you to get more and your normal guy was out. You then sent out those kilos of BAD product. Why wouldn't you even test the shit? Especially if you're buying from someone new? Are you dumb?

The way you handled the situation was awful and you put alot of people at risk, because you were fucking greedy.

Would you want to buy from a vendor like that? No.

I admit PF, I was a fan for a long time, and then you messed up bad. I don't think you deserve another chance. You put people at risk of bad drugs and getting caught because of greed. That's inexcusable in my book.

I DID NOT buy from a new source *my source got it from a different source, thats why i didnt drop 200mg right away before i pack your shit.
And i just remembered i did lick that shit and i did have some placebo effects, it was weird, but weird enough. Well shit happens, nobody paid for that so no harm done right?
anyways after 2 hours of packing we found out, at least. and we werent the only ones who gut fooled by this high quality fake mdma. Sorry that my packing guy never took drugs and dont know shit.

And i really wanna see you guys handling those hundreds of orders with only 1 half-time worker.
but i dont want to start that again, i know you would have done a better job.
Its easy to be a monday morning quaterback


Other question, How about i ship ONLY tracked (slightly!! higher than the non tracked prices) And you have to FE as soon as you get the Tracking number ?
Would love to hear some feedback on that one

And how many ppl are out there who wouldnt order if there are only tracked ones ?
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Post by: anon1980 on April 22, 2013, 05:28 am
I've been on SR for over a year, and I remember the time when PF was the king of MDMA! Glad to see you back my friend!  8) 8)

My only question is, will the packages be crushed with a hammer before being sent out like before? Or will you leave some big crystals when sending (especially for large packages like 100g) ?
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 22, 2013, 05:35 am
I've been on SR for over a year, and I remember the time when PF was the king of MDMA! Glad to see you back my friend!  8) 8)

My only question is, will the packages be crushed with a hammer before being sent out like before? Or will you leave some big crystals when sending (especially for large packages like 100g) ?

well i will improve the packaging, so there might be slightly less space in the letters.
But as always i try to keep em as crystaly as possible :) but that means bulky/thick letters.
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Post by: Nero on April 22, 2013, 05:48 am
bad rating (80) started when i sent out the bad mdma, and cancelled it right after, but the customers could still give me a feedback, mostly 1/5 because they didnt understand,
there were also a looooot of guys who got their letter after 4-6 weeks, but before that they got refunded and gave me 1/5.
deep inside u all know i did my best so STFU please !
However, theres no need to argue here, order or leave it, i dont mind

cheers
You tried your best? You rush bought Kilos of MDMA because your customers were yelling at you to get more and your normal guy was out. You then sent out those kilos of BAD product. Why wouldn't you even test the shit? Especially if you're buying from someone new? Are you dumb?

The way you handled the situation was awful and you put alot of people at risk, because you were fucking greedy.

Would you want to buy from a vendor like that? No.

I admit PF, I was a fan for a long time, and then you messed up bad. I don't think you deserve another chance. You put people at risk of bad drugs and getting caught because of greed. That's inexcusable in my book.

BLAH



Oh my god, all I see are excuses and a bullshit half-assed attempt at turning this around on me.

If you were such a high class vendor, none of those mistakes would have happened! Simple as that!

And you bet your fucking ass I would take security and integrity much more seriously than you do. If I slack off or mess up in my line of work, people die, and I have that same frame of mind in everything I do.

The facts are simple:

  You rushed and messed up.
  You put your customers at risk in more ways than one.
  You STOLE MONEY FROM YOUR CUSTOMERS.
  And you return here under very suspicious circumstances, and require FE.
  You did not try to right your wrongs and you expect people to forget?



SUSPECT.
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 22, 2013, 05:53 am
How did i risk anyone's security ?
And i really dont give 2 shits about what you think.
Because I know i have sent every order except for one 25g order out.

However, as soon as those first letters made it, all u guys gonna STFU and be pissed because u are blacklisted ?
Oh yeah i know, you wouldnt even order if it was 10$ a Kg because im a dick, well guess what i AM a dick.

have a nice day
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Post by: zeke on April 22, 2013, 06:16 am
Other question, How about i ship ONLY tracked (slightly!! higher than the non tracked prices) And you have to FE as soon as you get the Tracking number ?
Would love to hear some feedback on that one

And how many ppl are out there who wouldnt order if there are only tracked ones ?

I would have absolutely 0 interest in purchasing if you required FE.  Nothing good comes of FE whatsoever and it makes it entirely too easy for the seller to walk off with the cash with no obligation to ship anything.  Sorry man I loved your shit, but not worth risking the cash when I can pay a few hundred more elsewhere and at least stay in escrow and get some cash back if something goes wrong.
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 22, 2013, 06:39 am
Other question, How about i ship ONLY tracked (slightly!! higher than the non tracked prices) And you have to FE as soon as you get the Tracking number ?
Would love to hear some feedback on that one

And how many ppl are out there who wouldnt order if there are only tracked ones ?

I would have absolutely 0 interest in purchasing if you required FE.  Nothing good comes of FE whatsoever and it makes it entirely too easy for the seller to walk off with the cash with no obligation to ship anything.  Sorry man I loved your shit, but not worth risking the cash when I can pay a few hundred more elsewhere and at least stay in escrow and get some cash back if something goes wrong.

sorry my bad, of course those "more expensive" listings will also be available , if you purchase those you can of course stay in escrow and expect 75% refund (except for aussis)
And those are still the cheapest listings.

Im just trying to work with the feedback i got, some are fine with FE because they trust me, some are fine with FE after they got their tracking, and some just dont want to fe, they can get the more expensive listing.

I'm just trying to find a middle way and somehow not get scammed to death this time.
(For those who gonna flame now as usual, dont think you know all just because you followed my thread, there has been a lot of shit going on outside the threads)
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Post by: onefishtwofishredfishblue on April 22, 2013, 07:38 am
subbing
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Post by: onefishtwofishredfishblue on April 22, 2013, 07:54 am
What are MBBs ?

the half key should be around 7750$, but right now there is a mdma shortage, so i will start of with smaller quantities, thats also good to gain some reputation again ;)

Still nice to see some nice comments ;)
Love ya'll :*

BTW: i just sucked that number out my finger ;)
mom says its bed time now, cya
mbb=moisture barrier bags
you may want to read http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=119458.0

edit seller profile explains when mbb will be used. 
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 22, 2013, 07:57 am
thanks but I already ordered them right after i posted that :)
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Post by: onefishtwofishredfishblue on April 22, 2013, 08:00 am
is there a reason why you are only selling the tan vs the more washed white/milky/clear? will this become an option at some point
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 22, 2013, 08:02 am
I will post pictures  by the end of this week :)
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 22, 2013, 08:28 am
And I also want to emphasize that I am putting a lot of effort into the stealth packaging.
I spent a lot, and you will experience a new level of stealthiness :D
These should easily make it to Australia.
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 22, 2013, 09:27 am
After i destroyed the competition and the first few bigger orders have made it
I will ease the policy, think it will be like in the "before-time" only difference, you need really really good stats.
max 5-10% Refund and that only if you have spent thousands.
Those with 0% refund should have spent at least 500 bucks.

but we will figure that one out later on
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Post by: PePinJeNek on April 22, 2013, 09:52 am
Other question, How about i ship ONLY tracked (slightly!! higher than the non tracked prices) And you have to FE as soon as you get the Tracking number ?
Would love to hear some feedback on that one

And how many ppl are out there who wouldnt order if there are only tracked ones ?

I would have absolutely 0 interest in purchasing if you required FE.  Nothing good comes of FE whatsoever and it makes it entirely too easy for the seller to walk off with the cash with no obligation to ship anything.  Sorry man I loved your shit, but not worth risking the cash when I can pay a few hundred more elsewhere and at least stay in escrow and get some cash back if something goes wrong.

sorry my bad, of course those "more expensive" listings will also be available , if you purchase those you can of course stay in escrow and expect 75% refund (except for aussis)
And those are still the cheapest listings.

Im just trying to work with the feedback i got, some are fine with FE because they trust me, some are fine with FE after they got their tracking, and some just dont want to fe, they can get the more expensive listing.

I'm just trying to find a middle way and somehow not get scammed to death this time.
(For those who gonna flame now as usual, dont think you know all just because you followed my thread, there has been a lot of shit going on outside the threads)

RIP pfandleiher :-\

More expensive listings only to stay in escrow?
than only will you get 75% refund?? Aussies excepted?
Oi freund why don't you get a grip and start selling some
quality shit b4 applying all your shitty rules.

I was happy to see your back, but with all your new rules
and aushate I'm advising all aussies to stay away from you and your
creepy new rules.

We had a good thing going on in the past, however by what
I read im not sure if this will continue.
 

Peace
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 22, 2013, 10:00 am
well, it would be MUCH more convenient if australia would offer tracking.
But theres no notification or anything if the letter has made it, so anybody can scam me pretty easy.

u cant see it like that "more expenisve listings only to stay in escrow" Since those are still the cheapest listings on Silk Road.

You have to see it this way "Pay almost nothing and still get top stuff, even without escrow"

However, you guys see im working with you.

I am adjusting the policies due to the feedback i get.

Just saying, when i was on the run and had no time for the resolution center, Silk road refunded about 100 000$ ! yes thats a big number, i didnt end up with too much money. and thats why i cant risk it to be scammed right at the beginning. and now since sr is mainstream, I expect a lot of scammers.
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 22, 2013, 03:09 pm
My packaging is so epic, i hereby claim that not even aussi customs will come up on me.

Since there should be no problems, im thinking about offering full refund.
But everything over 50g will be tracked, how does that sound?

I would also love to hear some realistic prices for 1-100G

cheers
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Post by: awesome1126 on April 22, 2013, 03:42 pm
Subbing. Previous extremely happy customer! I'd love 10 gram packs for under 300!!
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 22, 2013, 03:46 pm
Subbing. Previous extremely happy customer! I'd love 10 gram packs for under 300!!

way under 300 :) you know my second  name is Marketdestroyer AKA Pricebreaker
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Post by: awesome1126 on April 22, 2013, 03:52 pm
Subbing. Previous extremely happy customer! I'd love 10 gram packs for under 300!!

way under 300 :) you know my second  name is Marketdestroyer AKA Pricebreaker

This is why i love you so much. So excited for my order!
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 22, 2013, 03:57 pm
:* <3

@ everbody else, please shout out some prices u wanna see :)
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Post by: anon1980 on April 22, 2013, 05:06 pm
$1500 for 100g with tracking and escrow  :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Post by: RicFlairIsGod86 on April 22, 2013, 05:12 pm
The MDMA BOSS is back.
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 22, 2013, 05:16 pm
$1500 for 100g with tracking and escrow  :-* :-* :-* :-*

I think i will go the risky way and do it as usual.
But this time i look out for buyer stats. I will also make a encrypted list of my customers, or has SR impemented something like that ?
Ppl with shitty stats can start with 1/5G and work their way up.
It concernes me that i see SCAM hating on every vendor page, but in the end i made a plus even with my "non existing policies"

Since I have a worker now i will also have much more time to chat with you and find the perfect solution for your desires.
May it bee tracked with escrow or tracked without because your region requires you to go to the post office.
I will stay flexible.

BTW, if there is need for well priced Speed (60%) just call me :) 555-SHOE, eh I mean message me.
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 22, 2013, 05:23 pm
I really miss the good old times when I still had the time to chat with you folks 24/7, but then came the success and the struggle.

But now I will Take the time :)

I hope I will meet a lot of my old friends :) And I hope you flood my mailbox, even if you dont order, everybody is welcome

<3
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 22, 2013, 05:23 pm
Soon open for business,
expect business as usual in the good old days
u can also expect improved packaging, but still fast as lightning, + a clear refund and FE policy, whatever, but this time we dont mix shit up aight?
Shipping prolly worldwide, not sure about AUssis though.

Gonna start with Mandy Candy

cheers

PS: Do flood my mailboxes please :) Im so lonely :D
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Post by: Sero Tonin on April 22, 2013, 05:24 pm
10 grams for 170-200..
an ounce for around 500 :)

untracked. and escrow for
established sr costumers
maybe 1500 or more spent.
2000...?
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Post by: tina on April 22, 2013, 05:27 pm
PF.... check your SR   PM... Yes, I'm flooding your inbox.

balls
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 22, 2013, 05:31 pm
PF.... check your SR   PM... Yes, I'm flooding your inbox.

balls

finally :)
but i guess I already answered minutes ago :D
fast as usual
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 22, 2013, 06:35 pm
I'd like to see 500g for less than $8000.

In how many letters ? Less than 5 ? Maybe i can do 4 with max stealth, below that it gonna be tricky
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Post by: omnadren on April 23, 2013, 05:14 am
PF i used you back in the day and your prices were absurd, since you been gone i have used afterhours on 100g/$1730, premium dutch 100g/$1635
I would really like for u to beat those prices and take over the market maybe 100G/$1500or$1550, 200G/$2700 or $2800, 250g/$3125 or $3200


just throwing it in out there, im going to wait till the first because i know your prices will be lower than ah or pd.
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Post by: omnadren on April 23, 2013, 05:31 am
Tan    100 GRAMS LOVE = WITH TRACKING    $1,950.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    100 GRAMS LOVE = WITHOUT TRACKING    $1,450.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    50 GRAMS LOVE = WITH TRACKING    $1,000.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    50 GRAMS LOVE = WITHOUT TRACKING    $750.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    25 GRAMS LOVE = WITH TRACKING    $540.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    25 GRAMS LOVE = WITHOUT TRACKING    $400.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    10 GRAMS LOVE = WITH TRACKING    $280.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    10 GRAMS LOVE = WITHOUT TRACKING    $170.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    5 GRAMS LOVE = WITH TRACKING    $140.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    5 GRAMS LOVE = WITHOUT TRACKING    $95.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    1 GRAM LOVE = WITH TRACKING    $40.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    1 GRAM LOVE = Without Tracking    $25.00    0    edit | delete
AH prices and Premium dutch prices are lower PF.  100g/1735 with ah and premium dutch is 16xx/100gs
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Post by: MangoSeason on April 23, 2013, 07:05 am
BTW, if there is need for well priced Speed (60%) just call me :) 555-SHOE, eh I mean message me.

Would be interested in well priced speed. Veeerry interested  ;)
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 23, 2013, 07:56 am
yeah they are lower BY NOW ;)
so even without selling anything i already lowered the market price hehe :)

But i think some of you might forget its not all about the price.
Its about reliability and good customer service , however,
i will still go as low as i can

cheers
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Post by: snickerlover6969 on April 23, 2013, 07:57 am
Tan    100 GRAMS LOVE = WITH TRACKING    $1,950.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    100 GRAMS LOVE = WITHOUT TRACKING    $1,450.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    50 GRAMS LOVE = WITH TRACKING    $1,000.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    50 GRAMS LOVE = WITHOUT TRACKING    $750.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    25 GRAMS LOVE = WITH TRACKING    $540.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    25 GRAMS LOVE = WITHOUT TRACKING    $400.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    10 GRAMS LOVE = WITH TRACKING    $280.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    10 GRAMS LOVE = WITHOUT TRACKING    $170.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    5 GRAMS LOVE = WITH TRACKING    $140.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    5 GRAMS LOVE = WITHOUT TRACKING    $95.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    1 GRAM LOVE = WITH TRACKING    $40.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    1 GRAM LOVE = Without Tracking    $25.00    0    edit | delete
AH prices and Premium dutch prices are lower PF.  100g/1735 with ah and premium dutch is 16xx/100gs

Bro, you don't have to order with tracking. Without tracking its significantly lower.
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 23, 2013, 08:06 am
Tan    100 GRAMS LOVE = WITH TRACKING    $1,950.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    100 GRAMS LOVE = WITHOUT TRACKING    $1,450.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    50 GRAMS LOVE = WITH TRACKING    $1,000.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    50 GRAMS LOVE = WITHOUT TRACKING    $750.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    25 GRAMS LOVE = WITH TRACKING    $540.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    25 GRAMS LOVE = WITHOUT TRACKING    $400.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    10 GRAMS LOVE = WITH TRACKING    $280.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    10 GRAMS LOVE = WITHOUT TRACKING    $170.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    5 GRAMS LOVE = WITH TRACKING    $140.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    5 GRAMS LOVE = WITHOUT TRACKING    $95.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    1 GRAM LOVE = WITH TRACKING    $40.00    0    edit | delete
Tan    1 GRAM LOVE = Without Tracking    $25.00    0    edit | delete
AH prices and Premium dutch prices are lower PF.  100g/1735 with ah and premium dutch is 16xx/100gs

Bro, you don't have to order with tracking. Without tracking its significantly lower.

I dont even know about that untracked tracked shit anymore, i would much rather like to build up my old fanbase, with trusted customers and also offer full escrow for them.

time will tell
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Post by: kkkholed on April 23, 2013, 11:54 am
"Welcome Back PF D"

YOU made my first experience on the Road, a pleasurable one!

Regards and good luck
K
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 23, 2013, 02:26 pm
How about I require these minimum stats


5-25 you should have spent 500, with max 10% refund.

Everything over 25 grams
requires you to have spent at least 2500 with a max refund rate of 2.5%

from 100G on you should have spent at least 5000 with max refund rate of 5%

Well this is just brainstorming, I guess some more acid trips are needed to figure out the perfect anti-scam method :)

with these terms and conditions I might be able to offer full escrow
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Post by: flwrchlds9 on April 23, 2013, 02:54 pm
5-25 you should have spent 500, with max 10% refund.

Everything over 25 grams
requires you to have spent at least 2500 with a max refund rate of 2.5%

from 100G on you should have spent at least 5000 with max refund rate of 5%

YES, now you think smart ;)   no business ordering 25g+ if not spend 2500+  this remove many amateurs and problems  :o
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 23, 2013, 02:58 pm
5-25 you should have spent 500, with max 10% refund.

Everything over 25 grams
requires you to have spent at least 2500 with a max refund rate of 2.5%

from 100G on you should have spent at least 5000 with max refund rate of 5%

YES, now you think smart ;)   no business ordering 25g+ if not spend 2500+  this remove many amateurs and problems  :o

yeah totally, i find it sad though that such measures are required.
I still want to serve everybody, I loved it when i could reply to people "Yeah just go ahead and order, everybody is welcome!"

And one year later i get the messages "You were my first SR experience and u made it perfect" :)
Well , Everybody is still welcome, but they have to start small right? :)

cheers
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Post by: Iconoclastic on April 23, 2013, 05:32 pm
I'm liking how this is shaping up!  Now, PF, for those of who aren't very fond of signing, will non-tracked packages still be a possibility?  All of my research has lead me to believe that as of recently, all tracked international packages need to be signed for in the US.  I realize that a little signature shouldn't be an issue.  But given the few busts recently for 100g packs, my drop will not be very happy about scribbling their name down.

My stats are a couple notches better than your brainstormed requirements for 100g orders and still a 0% refund/autofinalize rate. 

I understand that you have to cover your ass from scammers just like we have to cover our ass from LE.  But there's bound to be a system that works for all of us.  How about we get to work on those tubes the have at bank the drive-thru, only stretch them round the globe?  Or start employing carrier pigeons... well, maybe like hawks or something.  Not sure a pigeon'll make it over the ocean :).

Anyways, I still anxiously looking forward to what you have in store for us with this return!  Wow us, PF!  I'm sure you will!
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 23, 2013, 05:35 pm
People with awesome stats may even suck my dick or get their orders without tracking.

I just hope there are enough out there who meet the requirements ;)

well how about i come to the eastcoast of russia and you come to the westcoast of alaska and i toss you some kilos ;)
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Post by: MangoSeason on April 23, 2013, 08:38 pm
Got a rough estimate for speed prices Pf?

Would it be paste or sulphate?
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Post by: Sero Tonin on April 23, 2013, 09:10 pm
whats the connection between PF and all the other well known vendors
like dutchaanbod and Afterhour?
Are all of them working under 1 person?
im just curious to know lol.
but you dont have to reply PF:)
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Post by: kssr on April 23, 2013, 09:26 pm
Heard Supertrips talk about sesampso and Pfandleiher.. also Drnyx.

He almost spoke like he knew all of above..
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Post by: anon1980 on April 23, 2013, 09:26 pm
People with awesome stats may even suck my dick or get their orders without tracking.

Haha, this is how you know that it is the REAL PF!

For $1500 for 100g - full escrow and tracking, of course with good buyer stats, everyone would suck your dick!

When will you post pictures of the MDMA  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: MrImporter on April 23, 2013, 10:52 pm
250gr for 3500-3750 with tracking and I'd order that your first week back in business :)
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Post by: snickerlover6969 on April 23, 2013, 11:50 pm
250gr for 3500-3750 with tracking and I'd order that your first week back in business :)

Bro, your acting like your doing him a favor. All of your post are ridiculous. He's not trying to sell BULK right away so he can build a fanbase and make as much money as he can while doing it.
Title: Re: Price List , ALPHA VERSION
Post by: onefishtwofishredfishblue on April 24, 2013, 01:47 am


I dont even know about that untracked tracked shit anymore, i would much rather like to build up my old fanbase, with trusted customers and also offer full escrow for them.

time will tell
[/quote]

nope; please dont do this to us customers that don't want to sing for a tracked pack.  if this is the case i can not order.  :(

How about I require these minimum stats


5-25 you should have spent 500, with max 10% refund.

Everything over 25 grams
requires you to have spent at least 2500 with a max refund rate of 2.5%

from 100G on you should have spent at least 5000 with max refund rate of 5%

Well this is just brainstorming, I guess some more acid trips are needed to figure out the perfect anti-scam method :)

with these terms and conditions I might be able to offer full escrow

my stats are good enough for the 100g listing, but if they are tracked/signed i will not order.  u use to send out no track packs.  i don't know why this option will not be available anymore. 
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Post by: MrImporter on April 24, 2013, 01:53 am
250gr for 3500-3750 with tracking and I'd order that your first week back in business :)

Bro, your acting like your doing him a favor. All of your post are ridiculous. He's not trying to sell BULK right away so he can build a fanbase and make as much money as he can while doing it.


Bro,  this is the second post I made.  The first one he said he may consider after the crises is over.  I am throwing suggestions out there like others.  I am here to talk bulk.  Whether or not Pfandleiher decides to do it is up to him.  I do not think I am doing him any favors.  I can see he does plenty good for himself as it is.  But like I said,  I am trying to talk bulk and look for a good connect.   I am sure I will still buy off him even if it's 100g max.  Seems like a great guy. 


You on the other hand need to chill out with this thread and let him speak for himself..  Unless you are his partner or something?  I feel like I just got bitched at by a kid.

Sorry if I caused any problems
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Post by: flwrchlds9 on April 24, 2013, 03:15 am
Have signed issue worked out before consider ordering bulk, you think no?  :o

Sign is OK if take correct cautions.
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Post by: Iconoclastic on April 24, 2013, 05:56 am
Tracking from Germany to the US WILL require a signature.  Someone has to make a leap of faith either way one way or the other.  I think this applies to anything from Europe.

It's a development of the last year or so.  I want to say it's around 6 months old.  All of my info on the topic is from these boards.  So it may well be incorrect.  But whoever wrote it however long ago sounded authoritative enough for me to take it as truth.
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Post by: TheGoldenEel on April 24, 2013, 06:38 am
Have signed issue worked out before consider ordering bulk, you think no?  :o

Sign is OK if take correct cautions.

Only problem I have is being absent (work/school) during delivery and having to sign at the post office. Not out of the question but much less convenient. But there are many who would be happy to sign... Eager to know your decision Pf.
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Post by: fantastiqfox on April 24, 2013, 06:56 am
subbing
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 24, 2013, 09:01 am
Good morning everyone :)

If I trust people i am willing to send untracked.

and now I have to wake up first :)

cheers
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Post by: xxconnectxx on April 24, 2013, 11:45 am
morning folks

i´ll definitely place a order right to start...

will post feedback immediatly... the delivery to my destination shouldn´t take too long...

i received a sample (no mdma) right a few weeks ago and i´ll test the mdma for sure...

wanna be in the first row when the new world disorder starts.... ;-) haha

awaiting business...

lg xx
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Post by: zebra420kitty on April 24, 2013, 12:32 pm
Looking forward to possibly doing business Pfandleiher!**

Best of luck to you with your new account (:

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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 24, 2013, 12:48 pm
First we start a spelling class

P
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U remeber that guy who made "my" own onion site and started scamming people?
"Im rolling right now, pssst don't share" haha shit was funny though
too bad he too couldnt spell my name :D
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Post by: harharhar on April 24, 2013, 12:54 pm
subbed
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Post by: MrImporter on April 24, 2013, 01:28 pm
Have signed issue worked out before consider ordering bulk, you think no?  :o

Sign is OK if take correct cautions.

Only problem I have is being absent (work/school) during delivery and having to sign at the post office. Not out of the question but much less convenient. But there are many who would be happy to sign... Eager to know your decision Pf.


For the people concerned about signing.  Your best bet is to get a mailbox at the UPS store.  The employees there will sign for it.
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 24, 2013, 01:31 pm
Have signed issue worked out before consider ordering bulk, you think no?  :o

Sign is OK if take correct cautions.

Only problem I have is being absent (work/school) during delivery and having to sign at the post office. Not out of the question but much less convenient. But there are many who would be happy to sign... Eager to know your decision Pf.


For the people concerned about signing.  Your best bet is to get a mailbox at the UPS store.  The employees there will sign for it.

That advice is worth gold :)
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Post by: flwrchlds9 on April 25, 2013, 05:14 am
Have signed issue worked out before consider ordering bulk, you think no?  :o

Sign is OK if take correct cautions.

Only problem I have is being absent (work/school) during delivery and having to sign at the post office. Not out of the question but much less convenient. But there are many who would be happy to sign... Eager to know your decision Pf.


For the people concerned about signing.  Your best bet is to get a mailbox at the UPS store.  The employees there will sign for it.

AND this ONE of MANY possible way to deal with SIGNING problem  ;)  really if ready to order BULK should have such thing worked out.  ;)
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Post by: zebra420kitty on April 25, 2013, 05:29 am
First we start a spelling class

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U remeber that guy who made "my" own onion site and started scamming people?
"Im rolling right now, pssst don't share" haha shit was funny though
too bad he too couldnt spell my name :D
My apologies g is right next to h. >-.-<
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Post by: onefishtwofishredfishblue on April 25, 2013, 10:38 pm
i know its only a week away, but is there a way you can finalize and per-release the prices :); trying to do maths
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 26, 2013, 02:22 pm
Prices gonna be so fucking spontaneous i cant even tell :D

other thing, What the fuck is up with those vendors?
I tried to order different goodies for my friends etc.
Total bummer, they need 1-3 days till they even react, GOSH!
It is time to set the standards high again right?

u guys feel me ! i know it !

cheers
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Post by: RicFlairIsGod86 on April 26, 2013, 03:44 pm
That was always the part that amazed me about PF, the speed at which he responds. The first time I ever MSG'd him, there was a response within ten minutes. His envelopes go about as quick across the Atlantic.

Please don't let the Australians drag ya down again, mein Pawnbroker!
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 26, 2013, 05:19 pm
I swar to god I will try my best.
Im really excited about them customs :)
I heard a lot of stories, them stepping up and shit ;)
Let's see
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 26, 2013, 05:44 pm
So while we are at it, where are all those European big players ?

You all know i can get my hands on top notch cocaine, hash, weed, speed, xtc and of course mdma

just checking
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Post by: PBmolly on April 27, 2013, 09:45 pm
Are orders going to be ready to ship by May 1st or is then when you are just listing them? Any chance of some pics? Thanks PF!
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Post by: anon1980 on April 28, 2013, 01:04 am
Pics of MDMA PLEASE!   :'( :'(
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Post by: iamonion on April 29, 2013, 12:50 am
SCAMMER WARNING

THIS IS SUSPECT AS FUCK.  WHY WOULD PFAND COME BACK?  WHY WOULD HE COME BACK UNDER A NEW VENDOR ACCOUNT?

GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER GUYS.
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 29, 2013, 07:34 am
I already stated the prices, i think they will be in the middle between untracked and tracked BUT with full escrow for those who have the good buyers stats.
WEll i just figured out may 1st is a bank holiday here, i keep forgetting it sorry im no german ;)
anyways, im still certain i will have it by may the 2nd.
U know me, im fast as the lightning so i will put up those prices in a matter of minutes and let you guys know.

And I will also ignore that post before mine, since i dont even require FE, so well. Hello blacklist

LOVE

BTW, i dropped some xannies this week because waiting on the stash always makes me too nervous ;) so lets chill
Title: no I WONT ignore that one
Post by: Pfandleiher on April 29, 2013, 07:43 am
SCAMMER WARNING

THIS IS SUSPECT AS FUCK.  WHY WOULD PFAND COME BACK?  WHY WOULD HE COME BACK UNDER A NEW VENDOR ACCOUNT?

GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER GUYS.

I told you guys a million times, i always cashed out as much as possible from the "cash advace" feature for vendors, If you have 100 000$ in escrow, you can withdraw XXXBTC, when ppl finalize u dont get them, instead, the Cash advance money will be used. (so u get nothing)

BUT SR staff gave away 100% refund to anybody, (90% of them got their letter after 4-6 weeks. only good knows why) However since i didnt get any money back , the cash advance stayed as it was (-216.66BTC) back then it was nothing but i didnt give a fuck.

Now you can imagine what 216 BTC are worth , and how much i would have to pay back before i can work again.

Now this is so easy, even a 2 year old baby would get that, so PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP. AIGHT!

(BTW: i asked SR 100 times if they could just reset it since they fucked me so hard)
Answer, sorry bro we cant help you
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 29, 2013, 07:49 am
Well since you all want me to sell with my old account

here you got 1QEDvCjZ9Z9NpAvppXDqjQNgUUgFtjy4we

when it hits 216 (or whatever) BTC
i can use it again

cheerio
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Post by: ZeddBaby on April 29, 2013, 04:38 pm
sub...
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Post by: tina on April 29, 2013, 05:04 pm
Well since you all want me to sell with my old account

here you got 1QEDvCjZ9Z9NpAvppXDqjQNgUUgFtjy4we

when it hits 216 (or whatever) BTC
i can use it again

cheerio


To those who are bad at math:

He would have to pay $31,000 USD to start vending on the Silk Road again.

Something similar happened to my bud that used to vend.  He had to step out of the game while he had a 108 BTC loan out against him form the SR Cash Advance system.  This amounted to less than $1,000 USD at the time (~$8.00 / BTC)  But when he wanted to start up again, he logged into his account and realized that this 108 BTC was $20,000  (~$185 / BTC)

He does not want to pay $20,000 to start vending again so he has no choice but to abandon his well known (100) rated account to start a new one... which he might do soon.


Oh, and PF.... stop popping xannies. that shit will make you sloppy and make me nervous to buy from you (I'm serious).  Instead, use something that will keep you motivated and on top of orders. Can I suggest methamphetamine?

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Post by: wraithe on April 29, 2013, 07:58 pm
Well since you all want me to sell with my old account

here you got 1QEDvCjZ9Z9NpAvppXDqjQNgUUgFtjy4we

when it hits 216 (or whatever) BTC
i can use it again

cheerio


To those who are bad at math:

He would have to pay $31,000 USD to start vending on the Silk Road again.

Something similar happened to my bud that used to vend.  He had to step out of the game while he had a 108 BTC loan out against him form the SR Cash Advance system.  This amounted to less than $1,000 USD at the time (~$8.00 / BTC)  But when he wanted to start up again, he logged into his account and realized that this 108 BTC was $20,000  (~$185 / BTC)

He does not want to pay $20,000 to start vending again so he has no choice but to abandon his well known (100) rated account to start a new one... which he might do soon.


Oh, and PF.... stop popping xannies. that shit will make you sloppy and make me nervous to buy from you (I'm serious).  Instead, use something that will keep you motivated and on top of orders. Can I suggest methamphetamine?

how about some vyvanse.  that shit made me on point lol.  so hard to find cheap in the us.  no xannies no meth.  just plain ole adderall(even tho its similar)
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Post by: biglubes on April 29, 2013, 08:22 pm
yeah because people on meth are so great at running a business.  ;)
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Post by: waldheimer on April 29, 2013, 08:27 pm
So while we are at it, where are all those European big players ?

You all know i can get my hands on top notch cocaine, hash, weed, speed, xtc and of course mdma

just checking

give me a price of 100 g from the hash and i'm thinking bout playing! ;-)

by the way... i'm glad your back here PF... youre posts always make me laugh!!
Title: Oh jeeesh im loosing faith
Post by: Pfandleiher on April 30, 2013, 09:27 am
So for those who dont know it already , im already at : ***censored*** :D Atlantis
as soon as i figured out if that site wont go down just as fast as SR, i will sell there.

cheerio

BTW Hash prices? thats a difficult question, i think they have everythin from 0.80 to 800€ (30 different batches)
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Post by: ixor568 on April 30, 2013, 11:10 am
Have you put up your listings yet Pfandleiher? I'd love to order from you on SR but if' it is going to continue be down for the next few days...
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Post by: Pfandleiher on April 30, 2013, 11:34 am
they are listed but with 0 quantity :D
in the beginning i though i only start with 1 kg, so i thought it would be fair to let everybody know the exact time when they are going to be up.

However now i start with 5 KGs, but as you might know Holland and Germany have bank holidays now... so i wont have my stash before friday.

well, seeing it that way, im glad sr is down ;)


Can anybody tell me how to make my own small onion site ? :D
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Post by: ixor568 on April 30, 2013, 12:08 pm
Okay, cool. So Friday is the day we should all expect to place our orders? Have you figured out pricing yet? If so, please post your prices so we can gather our coins up in anticipation  ;)
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Post by: PBmolly on April 30, 2013, 05:27 pm
PF please start selling on Atlantis ! It has yet to go down once for me. I have monies in my account already to buy your listings!

Peace!
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Post by: Bronangen on April 30, 2013, 09:15 pm
Pf please don't start selling on atlantis, not only am I thinking all that love should be for SR, but it smells way too fishy for me. I wouldn't start selling right away...either way stay safe and secure brother!
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Post by: AfterHour on April 30, 2013, 10:10 pm
SCAM!!!

I KNOW PF SINCE YEARS! THIS IS NOT PF! IF YOU ALL WANT I CAN ASK DUTCHANDBOD HE WILL ALWAYS TELL YOU ALL THAT THIS IS SCAM!!!
PF WILL NEVER COME BACK IN THIS BUSINESS!!!.....

omg... you guys are stupid as hell
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Post by: snickerlover6969 on April 30, 2013, 11:11 pm
SCAM!!!

I KNOW PF SINCE YEARS! THIS IS NOT PF! IF YOU ALL WANT I CAN ASK DUTCHANDBOD HE WILL ALWAYS TELL YOU ALL THAT THIS IS SCAM!!!
PF WILL NEVER COME BACK IN THIS BUSINESS!!!.....

omg... you guys are stupid as hell

These are some pretty strong accusations AH...

How do you explain this one PF?
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Post by: ixor568 on April 30, 2013, 11:47 pm
SCAM!!!

I KNOW PF SINCE YEARS! THIS IS NOT PF! IF YOU ALL WANT I CAN ASK DUTCHANDBOD HE WILL ALWAYS TELL YOU ALL THAT THIS IS SCAM!!!
PF WILL NEVER COME BACK IN THIS BUSINESS!!!.....

omg... you guys are stupid as hell

Pretty shocking to hear this coming from Afterhours. How did this "imposter" gain access to PF's original SR account?
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Post by: PBmolly on May 01, 2013, 12:31 am
SCAM!!!

I KNOW PF SINCE YEARS! THIS IS NOT PF! IF YOU ALL WANT I CAN ASK DUTCHANDBOD HE WILL ALWAYS TELL YOU ALL THAT THIS IS SCAM!!!
PF WILL NEVER COME BACK IN THIS BUSINESS!!!.....

omg... you guys are stupid as hell

Umm I dont know what to think now....... PF maybe explain this for us?
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Post by: snickerlover6969 on May 01, 2013, 12:32 am
SCAM!!!

I KNOW PF SINCE YEARS! THIS IS NOT PF! IF YOU ALL WANT I CAN ASK DUTCHANDBOD HE WILL ALWAYS TELL YOU ALL THAT THIS IS SCAM!!!
PF WILL NEVER COME BACK IN THIS BUSINESS!!!.....

omg... you guys are stupid as hell

Pretty shocking to hear this coming from Afterhours. How did this "imposter" gain access to PF's original SR account?

Eggggsactly! I remember PF Reloaded came on the forums back in Oct/Nov and said that he had made a new account, and he had 400g MDMA for sale.  And that was it.  Said he wasn't going to sell any of the "hard" stuff anymore. Guess he had a change of thought....

I think AH is scared hes going to lose business to PF.  I remember when AH first started sellin MDMA he said it was the same "BAD ASS" MDMA from PF...and when we asked PF about it he said that maybe they have the same boss, but he doesn't know if its the same mdma.
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Post by: wraithe on May 01, 2013, 02:24 am
I would tend to believe AH in this instance.

The prices they both have/had would still sell massive amounts of mdma.  Its the equivalent of 2 men selling water in the desert, doesnt matter theres competition because its the fucking desert, all that shit is gonna be sold.

based on previous history of PF its very suspicious
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Post by: PotatoConnoisseur on May 01, 2013, 03:38 am
SCAM!!!

I KNOW PF SINCE YEARS! THIS IS NOT PF! IF YOU ALL WANT I CAN ASK DUTCHANDBOD HE WILL ALWAYS TELL YOU ALL THAT THIS IS SCAM!!!
PF WILL NEVER COME BACK IN THIS BUSINESS!!!.....

omg... you guys are stupid as hell

I always get a kick out of it that these three vendors supposedly know each other. I'm interested to see what "PF" has to say about this.
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Post by: type on May 01, 2013, 05:47 am
The question remains:

If this isn't the real PF, how the hell did the "imposter" manage to log into PF's old seller account and post a link to PF Reloaded in his vendor description saying to buy from there.

Seems pretty legit to me, I understand people's paranoia but if there's anyone that was moving enough weight before to discount pricing to whole nother level it was PF. Kilos of MDMA are cheap in his general location (if it is indeed Germany) compared to anywhere else in the world, if he's picking up 8k kilos if he's really moving weight he's still flipping for over double what he's buying for.
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Post by: Bronangen on May 01, 2013, 07:35 am
Pf was the first to show me perfect moonrocks..then he had to go, quickly replaced by Ah, who has all my trust. He has been too great.

I believe Ah on this one guys, still have some hope in me but ill save that for after the feedback...

Stay safe all
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Post by: type on May 01, 2013, 08:09 am
Nobody has attempted to answer how PF could have posted a link to PF Reloaded on his vendor profile without it actually being him.  Besides, if payment stays in escrow, what's the issue?

Just sayin.
Title: Good morning
Post by: Pfandleiher on May 01, 2013, 09:58 am
Well, now this has brought some attention to my thread didnt it ? PR-Gag? I don't know.
I thought there was something like the OMERTA for SR, Vendors dont fuck around in each others threads, unwritten rule !

To be honest these accusations are so low, I dont even consider going into details.

Now heres the walkthrough

-calm the fuck down
-wait till the listings are up
- order (or not)
-Receive your stash
-finalize
- leave a nice feedback
-make some mofo $$$$$$$
- order again


Now this is fucking simple, aint it ?
I see the most of you guys out there get me, how would anybody get access to my old account ?
And it aint a secret that every vendor hates me because of how good i am
HANDS DOWN, I was here first !!! Its my god damn right to be here and stay forever if I want !
NEVER FORGET what I have accomplished here ! And this is coming straight out of my heart.
So fuck you haters

And dondada, .... kinda disappointed , u should know me.

anyways. have a nice day
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Post by: Pfandleiher on May 01, 2013, 10:14 am
Oh sorry I may have forgotten to mention that i totally forgot about those german and dutch holidays this week.
If you dont have a normal life you just forget such things, trust me ! ;)
I am praying that the stash will be here saturday.

I wont be mad if you order somewhere else until then ;)

And now lets start filling this thread with some good vibes again

Title: Vote results protocol
Post by: Pfandleiher on May 01, 2013, 10:43 am
wanted to do a new vote, but it has expired, so no chance, too bad ;(

here are the results from the last vote

 Which quantities do you prefer ? (better said: how much would you order regularely?)

1G 5G
    21 (20.8%)
10G
    22 (21.8%)
25G
    12 (11.9%)
50G
    17 (16.8%)
100G (or even KGs,<-- btw i have done that to USA, but i prefer EU only )
    29 (28.7%)
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Post by: Pfandleiher on May 01, 2013, 10:55 am
And why the fuck are there no bulk Weed or Speed customers in the EU ? i dont get it ? :D
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Post by: ixor568 on May 01, 2013, 11:10 am
Prices! Please!  ;)
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Post by: Pfandleiher on May 01, 2013, 11:19 am
15$/G? :)
starting at 100, full escrow (great stats required)

or do you mean the other shit?
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Post by: atlas on May 01, 2013, 02:00 pm
Bulk prices for ganja  8)
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Post by: ixor568 on May 01, 2013, 02:50 pm
That sounds incredible. Hope I meet the customer requirements  ;)
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Post by: Pfandleiher on May 01, 2013, 02:53 pm
Bulk prices for ganja  8)

Clean Powerplant 5000€
clean amnesia haze 6000€

KG 60% Amphetamine paste 1750€ (EUEUEUEUEUEUEU!!!!!) :)
also for the weed, only tracked with dhl
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Post by: canardwc on May 01, 2013, 03:37 pm
SCAM!!!

I KNOW PF SINCE YEARS! THIS IS NOT PF! IF YOU ALL WANT I CAN ASK DUTCHANDBOD HE WILL ALWAYS TELL YOU ALL THAT THIS IS SCAM!!!
PF WILL NEVER COME BACK IN THIS BUSINESS!!!.....

omg... you guys are stupid as hell
Pfandleiher Reloaded actually have 1Transaction done and it was with me.

100G of MDMA

I got my parcel 4days after ordering, All in escrow, I got 1rock of 70g, one other of 22g and a last of 9g; total of 101G.

All was perfect, absolutely amazing stuff! Clean & really powerful !

MDMA was hidden inside the package.

This guy is totally legit .
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Post by: Pfandleiher on May 01, 2013, 03:44 pm
SCAM!!!

I KNOW PF SINCE YEARS! THIS IS NOT PF! IF YOU ALL WANT I CAN ASK DUTCHANDBOD HE WILL ALWAYS TELL YOU ALL THAT THIS IS SCAM!!!
PF WILL NEVER COME BACK IN THIS BUSINESS!!!.....

omg... you guys are stupid as hell
Pfandleiher Reloaded actually have 1Transaction done and it was with me.

100G of MDMA

I got my parcel 4days after ordering, All in escrow, I got 1rock of 70g, one other of 22g and a last of 9g; total of 101G.

All was perfect, absolutely amazing stuff! Clean & really powerful !

MDMA was hidden inside the package.

This guy is totally legit .

thanks for the backup amigo ;)

yeah do some research on the forums maybe you still find that thread when i had 500G of molly and just wanted to sell it fast, it was around oktober? november, dunno anymore
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Post by: type on May 01, 2013, 04:20 pm
PF,

when you say 15/g starting at 100gs, does this mean you are only selling 100g packs + over?

wanted to start with half of that to gauge interest in ur stuff. this possible?
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Post by: wraithe on May 01, 2013, 04:23 pm
didnt PF use pgp in the past on the original account?(i was not around during that time) if someone still had that key couldnt he verify that way?
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Post by: onefishtwofishredfishblue on May 01, 2013, 08:23 pm
didnt PF use pgp in the past on the original account?(i was not around during that time) if someone still had that key couldnt he verify that way?

this should he his old key as i have not put in the new one
*edit:

this should he his old key as no new key has been released to my knowledge
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Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (MingW32)

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CP2Ha+8mmDOqUbk5hvzd5Z/w9aejMO7pex4UCCAL7Eq072X4p+Ah/6QKtYB1vfz1
IKXLooco71AkRsAvysVlzVVR/06GKzipnTrto00uhUcuYjgEk8NmYEERKYSwU6z2
QV1393FUBie9CGqnSAyD4ru1uKMHsdeivyMPOibegUW6gJRqBVcwLsiDesWDBJO5
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BhUIAgkKCwQWAgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEGJEApFX/YQ1CjMIAI0luCVIzqzaKLJbEaj+
uno/zJRkvfj3DjuHPh9FKAv4tw6g5c2GXAqOATo+3lPhvL6yH6/3bt+kqDIh9pN8
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SgBPinY2bzqQ1ib9M/yT1tAWhQurg8nwzoF16wX8uZOaf6f16yd4ss5XcG3rDSaA
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bCvnFC4xIJ4KHtXiURpGqNfRL1iMt+XxPDCMbn6ghFcZwmobf6orQLdYnXFgdrT4
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Title: EPIC PROMO
Post by: Pfandleiher on May 01, 2013, 08:27 pm
This dude knows his PROMO moves :)

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/8cfa29972d (Dutchaanbod's profile)

But I still love you all :)

I wont create my new pgp until i have the new unused pc, sorry everbody
Title: Re: EPIC PROMO
Post by: onefishtwofishredfishblue on May 01, 2013, 08:41 pm
This dude knows his PROMO moves :)

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/8cfa29972d (Dutchaanbod's profile)

But I still love you all :)

I wont create my new pgp until i have the new unused pc, sorry everbody

mind=fucked!
god dayum!
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Post by: anon1980 on May 01, 2013, 10:00 pm
This dude knows his PROMO moves :)

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/8cfa29972d (Dutchaanbod's profile)

But I still love you all :)

I wont create my new pgp until i have the new unused pc, sorry everbody

mind=fucked!
god dayum!

 :o :o :o :o :o :o

The two most legit and my favorite vendors were actually the same person! PF you are one clever motherfucker!

Respect. Definitely did not expect that...
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: tina on May 01, 2013, 10:35 pm
Hmmmm so I'm confused.  Dutchaanbod was PF the entire time?

I've ordered boatloads from DA
Title: Re: EPIC PROMO
Post by: snickerlover6969 on May 01, 2013, 10:38 pm
This dude knows his PROMO moves :)

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/8cfa29972d (Dutchaanbod's profile)

But I still love you all :)

I wont create my new pgp until i have the new unused pc, sorry everbody

LMAO!!! So WTF!!! What was up with the poor english that Dutch always spoke?

Wow you amaze me! Very very clever!! You def have some haters...
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Post by: tina on May 01, 2013, 10:42 pm
Yeah. DA had some terrible Engrish! ha.
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Post by: snickerlover6969 on May 01, 2013, 10:57 pm
Yeah. DA had some terrible Engrish! ha.

Yu Don' like yu Don' ourder! LOL
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: onefishtwofishredfishblue on May 02, 2013, 12:13 am
Hmmmm so I'm confused.  Dutchaanbod was PF the entire time?

I've ordered boatloads from DA

same
lol
pf did step up his game in terms of customer support, shipping time, stealth ect when vending as dutch

shit be cray
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: snickerlover6969 on May 02, 2013, 12:24 am
Hmmmm so I'm confused.  Dutchaanbod was PF the entire time?

I've ordered boatloads from DA

same
lol
pf did step up his game in terms of customer support, shipping time, stealth ect when vending as dutch

shit be cray

What are you smoking dude? GIMME SOME!!
Dutch's shipping times were sometimes 28 days! Response times were 1-3 days..and stealth was the same! lol

I received a pack from PF in 3 days and a response in 6 min! ahha

I kinda feel like a kid again, when I used to watch WWF and the day I found out that Mankind, Dude Love, and McFoley were all the same people!! LMAO!!
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\ VOTE NOW !!!!!!!!!!
Post by: mollyfan on May 02, 2013, 12:57 am
they offer coke again soon?


and so it begins.......again

DO NOT GET INTO THE COKE GAME AGAIN! in my opinion thats when you started falling. i cant wait to see how good ur mdma is this time around :)
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: usa2usadutchxtc on May 02, 2013, 01:24 am
we really doubt pf and dutch are the same person. it is possible but we suspect it to not be true, we did good amount of business with dutch and had good service almost always. sometimes 3-4 weeks shipping times though. we placed orders recently with dutch when he decided to come back and then decided to not fill any of the orders. ours was a 100g order to the USA. we cancelled after about a week in processing.

anxious to see how all this turns out though..we see PF is now on atlantis also.....hmm...
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: fantastiqfox on May 02, 2013, 01:27 am
Why does everyone assume they are the same people?

Isn't it more likely that they just know each other/are friends and dutchaanbod let PF use his profile to prove that he was legit?
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: MrImporter on May 02, 2013, 03:06 am
Both of them are friends.  I am betting that Dutch gave PF his account password.. Like dutch said he will never return to SR anyway..


Can't wait.. Wish PF would put up listing now so people can start pre-ordering.  But no worries shouldnt be long now. 
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Post by: clearance on May 02, 2013, 03:16 am


shit be cray

shit be SO cray
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Post by: masteroffrets on May 02, 2013, 03:40 am
But why would he want to use dutch's account?  a feedback of 76? routinely fucking over customers. I dont get it.
Title: LOL
Post by: Pfandleiher on May 02, 2013, 03:52 am
Now this was fun wasn't it ?

well, we heard almost every possible theory on this one ;)
1 or 2 got it right ;)

However, I think I know my PR campaign ;)

cheers
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: masteroffrets on May 02, 2013, 04:09 am
Ohhh i guess that makes sense. Using dutch's acount and all this baloney of is it really you is just to get people talking. I hardly think you need all the extra attention your product and prices should get you more customers than you could handle. As it seems the case everytime with you german mdma vendors you always bite off more than you can chew.
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: Pfandleiher on May 02, 2013, 04:16 am
Ohhh i guess that makes sense. Using dutch's acount and all this baloney of is it really you is just to get people talking. I hardly think you need all the extra attention your product and prices should get you more customers than you could handle. As it seems the case everytime with you german mdma vendors you always bite off more than you can chew.

Dont you worry mate, I really DID learn my lesson.
limited listings, limited customers :)
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: DeadRa7 on May 02, 2013, 05:04 am
What in the fuckkkkkk?  I haven't been on sr since before 4/20 and I come back to find out all this crazy shit-wow!

Dutchtrade is strangely like Dutchaanbod, I've fucking called it since day 1 so does that mean that dutchaanbod is dutchtrade?  Not that that really matters, but I've always wondered about these german vendors.  I bet you all just sit in some huge mansion ripping lines of yayo and figuring out who's gonna imitate who next-hah!  You all are hero's, and nobody will ever even know your real names  ;)

Anyways, fuck all this nonsense I trust that this new pf is legit now WHEN CAN WE GET TO BUSINESS BRO?  Shit needs to get poppin' soon!  I desperately need your lighting fast shipping now more than ever, my freedom is riding on making as much money as I can right now.
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: flwrchlds9 on May 02, 2013, 05:13 am
PF - when you login to DAA account you take out of auto-vacation mode, when you logout you don put back in vacation so items are live.

Log back in and put in vacation before dumb people place orders ;)
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: DeadRa7 on May 02, 2013, 05:23 am
PF - when you login to DAA account you take out of auto-vacation mode, when you logout you don put back in vacation so items are live.

Log back in and put in vacation before dumb people place orders ;)
[/quote

I do wish I could get my hands on some of that german kitty, when I first saw that I was estatic but then I was like "aww db is gone"
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: Pfandleiher on May 02, 2013, 05:29 am
What in the fuckkkkkk?  I haven't been on sr since before 4/20 and I come back to find out all this crazy shit-wow!

Dutchtrade is strangely like Dutchaanbod, I've fucking called it since day 1 so does that mean that dutchaanbod is dutchtrade?  Not that that really matters, but I've always wondered about these german vendors.  I bet you all just sit in some huge mansion ripping lines of yayo and figuring out who's gonna imitate who next-hah!  You all are hero's, and nobody will ever even know your real names  ;)

Anyways, fuck all this nonsense I trust that this new pf is legit now WHEN CAN WE GET TO BUSINESS BRO?  Shit needs to get poppin' soon!  I desperately need your lighting fast shipping now more than ever, my freedom is riding on making as much money as I can right now.

Haha Fuck you nailed it BRO !
made me laugh so hard ;)

However, im keeping the balance between hurrying and not rushing ;)
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: Pfandleiher on May 02, 2013, 05:43 am
You guys dont even know how much I missed this community and just hanging around in front of the pc like a nerd :D
fucking love this small talk and shit
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: clearance on May 02, 2013, 05:48 am
You guys dont even know how much I missed this community and just hanging around in front of the pc like a nerd :D
fucking love this small talk and shit

Where the fuck did you go anyway? I tried to slide a lucrative offer by you around Christmas, but you gave me a very mysterious reply saying that you're doing other shit for the time being, but you'll make a return.

PF = Mr McMystery
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: Pfandleiher on May 02, 2013, 06:01 am
yeah yeah, i know, times were pretty tough especially around last Christmas and new years eve ...
Im just glad everything turned out aight
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: DeadRa7 on May 02, 2013, 06:04 am
You guys dont even know how much I missed this community and just hanging around in front of the pc like a nerd :D
fucking love this small talk and shit

You and me both man-when I'm not out working the packs I get from here it makes for a nice past time just bullshitting with you all.  Haven't had a real job since Aug 2011 and don't plan on going back anytime soon as long as the love keeps a flowin' from Europe  ;D 
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: Pfandleiher on May 02, 2013, 06:06 am
You guys dont even know how much I missed this community and just hanging around in front of the pc like a nerd :D
fucking love this small talk and shit

You and me both man-when I'm not out working the packs I get from here it makes for a nice past time just bullshitting with you all.  Haven't had a real job since Aug 2011 and don't plan on going back anytime soon as long as the love keeps a flowin' from Europe  ;D

LOL, I can beat that,
I havent had a job EVER ! :P at least. no job lasted longer than a few weeks :D
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: h1n1z2 on May 02, 2013, 06:56 am
PF and DB aren't the same person, they are colleagues and this has come up before. When AH started selling the BADASS MDMA, DB dropped into his thread to confirm it was the same source.

Far as i can tell DB is the boss and the source for probably 3 or 4 of the bigger vendors here, of which PF is one.

AH also mentioned before when he was trying to get the MDMA that someone else had a contract of sorts on that. I presume this reference was to PF at the time. When PF fell, AH took it over. DB was likely the source the whole time no matter who sold it on SR directly.

Also DB has stated several times while his vendor acc was on a break that he just can't be bothered selling on SR himself (and hey would would he 8))

Pay attention guys..  ;)
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: Pfandleiher on May 02, 2013, 07:01 am
U sure did pay attention ;)
not 100% correct, but u got it almost ;)
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: h1n1z2 on May 02, 2013, 07:18 am
U sure did pay attention ;)
not 100% correct, but u got it almost ;)

ha ha well im grateful to you all equally.

maybe one day when this is over and you're all in retirement, you can write a book about it or something  :)
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: Pfandleiher on May 02, 2013, 07:20 am
U sure did pay attention ;)
not 100% correct, but u got it almost ;)

ha ha well im grateful to you all equally.

maybe one day when this is over and you're all in retirement, you can write a book about it or something  :)

U can bet your sweet ass that there WILL be a book, no matter what.
But I still want some more content ;)
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: ixor568 on May 02, 2013, 08:29 am
U sure did pay attention ;)
not 100% correct, but u got it almost ;)

ha ha well im grateful to you all equally.

maybe one day when this is over and you're all in retirement, you can write a book about it or something  :)

U can bet your sweet ass that there WILL be a book, no matter what.
But I still want some more content ;)

Call it The Sugar Kilos
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: Pfandleiher on May 02, 2013, 01:38 pm
Guys now seriously, with SR being down 22/7...
What the fuck shall I/We do? Great timing for a comeback huh ?

I guess there aren't too many ppl who will do business without escrow, and Tormail is also fucked.

Dont know about ATL, however, I am a verified vendor there. so.. just in case (like now)

Im open for suggestions
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: ixor568 on May 02, 2013, 03:29 pm
Throw your listings up on atlantis for the time being, and once SR is stable pull them down (If you wish) and relist them here
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: snickerlover6969 on May 02, 2013, 03:44 pm
Guys now seriously, with SR being down 22/7...
What the fuck shall I/We do? Great timing for a comeback huh ?

I guess there aren't too many ppl who will do business without escrow, and Tormail is also fucked.

Dont know about ATL, however, I am a verified vendor there. so.. just in case (like now)

Im open for suggestions

Here's a suggestion,

How bout next time you see AfterHour IRL you whoop out a Kilo and slap him right in the FACE with it!! :o LMAO!
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: RicFlairIsGod86 on May 02, 2013, 03:55 pm
It sounds like a damn molly dealers' convention, Germany does!
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: Pfandleiher on May 02, 2013, 04:37 pm
Guys now seriously, with SR being down 22/7...
What the fuck shall I/We do? Great timing for a comeback huh ?

I guess there aren't too many ppl who will do business without escrow, and Tormail is also fucked.

Dont know about ATL, however, I am a verified vendor there. so.. just in case (like now)

Im open for suggestions

Here's a suggestion,

How bout next time you see AfterHour IRL you whoop out a Kilo and slap him right in the FACE with it!! :o LMAO!

To be honest, I have never met that guy.
And i am still wondering what the hell he was talking about in that post ;)
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Post by: Sero Tonin on May 02, 2013, 04:47 pm
when you DO write you book..i want mine signed :)

Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: Pfandleiher on May 02, 2013, 05:29 pm
Would it be weird if I just shoot a movie ? Without writing a book :)

Facebook style
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Post by: tina on May 02, 2013, 05:34 pm
Do a celebrity sex tape. I'll watch.



Wait.... what?
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Post by: DeadRa7 on May 02, 2013, 06:08 pm
Do a celebrity sex tape. I'll watch.



Wait.... what?

lulz :-P
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: Pfandleiher on May 02, 2013, 06:23 pm
Voluntarios ?
Voy a pagar muy bien :)
Solamente hombres :) por favor
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: snickerlover6969 on May 02, 2013, 07:27 pm
Voluntarios ?
Voy a pagar muy bien :)
Solamente hombres :) por favor

NO HOMO?
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Post by: Love Inc on May 02, 2013, 07:29 pm
Subbing!

:)
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Post by: anonman88 on May 03, 2013, 05:06 am
just noticed what it says in DB's profile. when will you start selling again?!? your still the best experience i've had shipping larger quantities, 10 days to the midwest with no issues at all.
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: Sero Tonin on May 03, 2013, 05:07 am
book. video. dirty novel. ill buy.
 :) just send it with some drugs.
yumyum

funny thing with dutch profile lol.
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: PBmolly on May 03, 2013, 06:17 am
Guys now seriously, with SR being down 22/7...
What the fuck shall I/We do? Great timing for a comeback huh ?

I guess there aren't too many ppl who will do business without escrow, and Tormail is also fucked.

Dont know about ATL, however, I am a verified vendor there. so.. just in case (like now)

Im open for suggestions

I agree with ixor568, you should throw a few listing up on Atlantis just to get a feel for it, to see if you want to conduct future business there. And since SR is down anyway why not? I know I would place an order right away!
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: flwrchlds9 on May 03, 2013, 06:57 am
Think you should wait for SR to get fixed... but why Atlantis?? Why not BMR, much longer in business and more "tested".
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: flwrchlds9 on May 03, 2013, 07:03 am
It sounds like a damn molly dealers' convention, Germany does!

Es ist, es ist eine verdammt Party! ;) 

DON TELL!  :o  ;D
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Post by: xxconnectxx on May 03, 2013, 08:20 am
convention - - convention - - haha

i´ve time for the party this WE ;-)

und ich würds keinem erzählen... ;-)

let´s start the engine...
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: Pfandleiher on May 03, 2013, 01:00 pm
Haha u motherfuckers all feel me out there.
Now lets keep this thread hate free as usual.
The miracle worker will start working now.
Within 48 hours i build a full functional world wide love dispensary !
Please keep messages at a minimum. If i gave u my word on any price or shipping date, i stand behind it.
But i need this 2-3 days for my security and infrastructure and i also want to meditate one last time before we make it happen .
Just letting you all know again, im here for representing, its blue magic, its fucking PF!!!
Its not about them $$$$, its rather bout <3 and beeing free.
Dont need a karma button for this one !!!!
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Post by: ZeddBaby on May 03, 2013, 08:36 pm
Its not about them $$$$, its rather bout <3 and beeing free.

Word....
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Post by: CyberDMT on May 03, 2013, 08:51 pm
Damn, had such a good roll on your stuff. Then bought from DB when u was gone rolling good again then AfterHour since he should have had the same stuff as you but those rolls sucked!

Now i'm going to wait 3 months for a summer festival then roll again and since u got the same stuff as AfterHour i'm this time going with pills :(

Wanna try you again but don't want to waste it on a festival if it's a bad roll again :(
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Post by: type on May 04, 2013, 08:56 pm
PF, are you planning to be up this weekend?
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Post by: mollyfan on May 04, 2013, 09:51 pm
just let me know when to order bro!
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Post by: iamonion on May 04, 2013, 09:52 pm
I guess everyone is just saying "fuck it" in regards to how suspect this is?
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: mollyfan on May 04, 2013, 09:58 pm
I guess everyone is just saying "fuck it" in regards to how suspect this is?

0.o? wut?
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: iamonion on May 04, 2013, 10:04 pm
I don't understand what you don't understand.

You don't find it a little odd that an old vendor that caused one of the biggest drama fiasco's of SR just comes back out of nowhere with a different account and all?

I guess it's true, legends never die... but their deeds clearly do.
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: type on May 04, 2013, 10:23 pm
I guess everyone is just saying "fuck it" in regards to how suspect this is?

He's proved himself to be PF as much as anyone on the road can verify themselves.  Full escrow, verification through his old profile AND Duchaanbods, I really don't know what more you could ask from him.
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: iamonion on May 04, 2013, 10:32 pm
I guess everyone is just saying "fuck it" in regards to how suspect this is?

He's proved himself to be PF as much as anyone on the road can verify themselves.  Full escrow, verification through his old profile AND Duchaanbods, I really don't know what more you could ask from him.

Fair enough... I just remember this guy leaving with what seemed to be such a bad taste in his mouth.  Proclaiming to have lost everything.  I remember hearing reports that the product could be seen through the packaging during his last shipments, miraculously they made it.

It just seemed like too much of an overload for him to be coming back.  I also didn't see that he was verified through Dutch.

A little caution goes a long way.
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Post by: usa2usadutchxtc on May 05, 2013, 12:07 am
we are  amazed that he has logged in thru dutches profile. that would mean he either knows dutch well or he is dutch. from another bigtime european vendor we were told that dutch had lots of money and connects well before SR. what this means idk but it is info we were given by someone large. we know people that had many good orders thru dutch but also some that took 4 weeks to arrive. maybe PF is dutch.....
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: usa2usadutchxtc on May 05, 2013, 01:04 am
idk dada. strange thing this is. i would be happy if dutch came back though! he always did everyone good for the most part. however there are now mdma vendors that are doing excellent work. this tends to look like pf and dutch are buddies and dutch has let him sign his page. however it is a bit odd. one thing i know, i wont be ordering 200g from this guy asap! i miss dutch though and i am anxious to see how this all works out.
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Post by: usa2usadutchxtc on May 05, 2013, 02:02 am
very interesting. i do wonder if they are one in the same.

you ever get that large mdma order form i believe it was holly??

pm me, got something i would like to share
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Post by: mollyfan on May 05, 2013, 07:23 pm
and just as fast as he came in, he disappears again!
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Post by: DeadRa7 on May 05, 2013, 08:31 pm
Ready to go...where are you pf???!!!
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Post by: flwrchlds9 on May 05, 2013, 09:48 pm
Please keep messages at a minimum. If i gave u my word on any price or shipping date, i stand behind it.
But i need this 2-3 days for my security and infrastructure and i also want to meditate one last time before we make it happen .

Valium all around for every person  :o go have fun and party with weekend all will be good, DON WORRY!  ;D  8)
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: canardwc on May 06, 2013, 03:28 pm
Ready to go...where are you pf???!!!
Probably dying in a gutter on free party; too much high !

No i'm joking ....

WHERE ARE YOU PF ! Stop using drugs and come back ! 2-3 days for security and infrastructure my ass; more like 2-3days of HIGH; we all know you PF ;)
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Post by: type on May 06, 2013, 09:07 pm
Let's go PF! Ready to order!
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Post by: type on May 07, 2013, 01:34 am
Let's go PF! Ready to order!
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Post by: snickerlover6969 on May 07, 2013, 03:07 am
tick tock tick tock...
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Post by: wraithe on May 07, 2013, 03:13 am
since PF seems to have the hookup on everything, think you can get me a nice ukraine or czech girl 18-24?  Maybe ship her freight or something.  I wouldnt mind signing for her if I had to, as long as the stealth was adequate

forgot to mention please include air holes.
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Post by: type on May 07, 2013, 03:14 am
AND bitcoin starts to crash again. Great. 
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Post by: toejammer on May 07, 2013, 04:58 am
YO MDMA jesus!!

GET back online i am down to my last 1g.. FROM 8 MONTHS AGO!!!!!!  LEGENDARY!

i need want need more!
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Post by: MangoSeason on May 07, 2013, 12:17 pm
Ready to go...where are you pf???!!!
Probably dying in a gutter on free party; too much high !

No i'm joking ....

WHERE ARE YOU PF ! Stop using drugs and come back ! 2-3 days for security and infrastructure my ass; more like 2-3days of HIGH; we all know you PF ;)

Didn't he say he was meditating?
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Post by: SeriousChemistry on May 07, 2013, 05:11 pm
PfandLeiher high as fuck, forgets to sell tons of drugs and shit.
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Post by: vektor the pirate on May 07, 2013, 07:57 pm
i cancelled an order with dutch trade to go w PF and now he goes AWOL.  Hasn't been seen or heard from since he said he was going to pick up the batch.

Hopefully he is ok and is really just shoring up his operation and getting everything in motion.  Wish he communicated a little bit.  I spoke to him and he said he would be able to process a 100 g order asap like 3 days ago....I had 1900$ in my account...now it is worth 1540$ just because the price of BTC is so fucked up...
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Post by: PBmolly on May 08, 2013, 02:13 am
and we all wait..................... :P
Title: Caught by cybercrime-taskforce
Post by: dkn25523leech on May 08, 2013, 11:32 am
Kicking the rumor mill.
http://heise.de/-1858627
Title: Re: Caught by cybercrime-taskforce
Post by: waldheimer on May 08, 2013, 12:15 pm
Kicking the rumor mill.
http://heise.de/-1858627

this article is about a 22 year old guy and they intercepted like 35 parcels as the delivery service was cooperating with the police...

doesn't sound like PF to me... somehow i think of him of at least being 35 and having bout 130 kg of weight... not sure though...

hope he is fine and back online soon!
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Post by: dkn25523leech on May 08, 2013, 01:56 pm
Pfandleiher is not fine and won't be back anytime soon. The police cought him by visiting the local post offices asking for someone dropping many small and light weight packages.

Take good care.
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Post by: FartBomber on May 08, 2013, 02:22 pm
I didnt read the thread so if this is already posted, well, then who cares...

!!Clearnet!! http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Online-Drogenshop-aufgeflogen-1858627.html
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Post by: wraithe on May 08, 2013, 02:46 pm
but PF wasnt mailing packages so why would he be caught?  seems like someone else to me.  what other euro vendors have went awol this week?
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Post by: snickerlover6969 on May 08, 2013, 02:50 pm
Plus he mentioned how he was going to have helpers this time, he wasn't going to be sending them out.

And this article was just written this morning.  So I guess we will find out soon enough which vendor it was....so sad  :'(
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Post by: dkn25523leech on May 08, 2013, 02:56 pm
http://www.express.de/duesseldorf/duesseldorfer--22--in-u-haft--cybercrime--einheit-nimmt-online-drogenshop-hoch,2858,22701868.html

There are a few pictures.
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Post by: snickerlover6969 on May 08, 2013, 03:07 pm
Well, so that's what a vendors apartment looks like! LOL

Hmm...lets think about this, which German vendor sells Cocaine, Weed,Hash,  Amphetamine and MDMA?
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Post by: wraithe on May 08, 2013, 03:07 pm
i still dont think it was PF, he wasnt selling anything anywhere.  plus where was the harder drugs and I imagine PFs place to be more organized he said he was setting it up.  that looked pretty disheveled to me

they said he was caught selling weed and speed.  but where was the large amounts of mdma he would of had because he was opening up.  I think this is another german vendor
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Post by: CrazyBart on May 08, 2013, 03:16 pm
i still dont think it was PF, he wasnt selling anything anywhere. 

Because we can trust every word a drug dealer says
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Post by: type on May 08, 2013, 03:44 pm
Man, you guys don't have standalone mail drop boxes on street corners or in businesses in Europe? I'd be suspicious too if I took 100 parcels taped in unprofessional packaging like that as well.

Doubt it's PF though. According to another well known vendor, he wasn't even in Germany anymore.
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Post by: waldheimer on May 08, 2013, 06:13 pm
hope it wasn't afterhour... placed an order a few hours ago...

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Post by: waldheimer on May 08, 2013, 07:34 pm
Pfandleiher is not fine and won't be back anytime soon. The police cought him by visiting the local post offices asking for someone dropping many small and light weight packages.

Take good care.

how would you know that?
anybody here who ever got bulk from PF that received such a slopy taped package? can't imagine that...
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Post by: SeriousChemistry on May 08, 2013, 07:55 pm
If it's really PfandLeiher, he's a real SilkRoad-Warrior:

Quote
Eine erdrückende Beweislast, die den 22-Jährigen aber nicht zum Reden brachte.

Means, that HE DID NOT TALK (until now)!

Furthermore, they always talk about "packages within the german republic", no words about outside germany.

Anyway, about 100 cases have been opened against the online shoppers (as far as I understand only german citizens).
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Post by: type on May 08, 2013, 10:22 pm
So people are sure this is PF? not afterhour or anything? I don't get why so many people assume its just PF
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Post by: dkn25523leech on May 08, 2013, 10:31 pm
Maybe because he's offline since the incident, maybe it's only a rumor. Who knows?
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Post by: danconia on May 08, 2013, 11:54 pm
I'm not sure there's enough reason to assume it's PF.  First of all they traced his IP address which means he wasn't using Tor, or at least not correctly.  Also the only way they'd be able to get 100 customers from within their jurisdiction (which I am assuming) is if the person had kept records of all the buyers.  Although SR doesn't keep records that far back it's still common for vendors to record each transaction on their hard drive or somewhere similar.

This vendor would have to be complying with police otherwise I highly doubt they'd be able to get 100 cases (that or the vendor was *incredibly* sloppy).  Unless someone can verify that this was a vendor from SR I am inclined to be believe it was someone selling on a different website or on their own.  Just my .02, we should not spread rumors too quickly.
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Post by: SeriousChemistry on May 09, 2013, 12:06 am
But if it's not PF, the question remains where the fuck he is? And where is AfterHour? What's going on in Germany?

I really fear that the guy busted is a SR member/seller, because everything in the report fits perfectly (although it could be a proper project similar to the road or something like that).

But until now - all just rumors.

Wishing all the best for that busted guy, doesn't matter who exactly he is!
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Post by: type on May 09, 2013, 02:02 am
But if it's not PF, the question remains where the fuck he is? And where is AfterHour? What's going on in Germany?

I really fear that the guy busted is a SR member/seller, because everything in the report fits perfectly (although it could be a proper project similar to the road or something like that).

But until now - all just rumors.

Wishing all the best for that busted guy, doesn't matter who exactly he is!

Well, I'm guessing by the report he was caught on Monday, as this seems like a day after type of publishing. The article has way too much detail for it to me a spur of the moment as it happens type of posting. I communicated with AH yesterday, so I don't believe it to be him. He also shows as being logged in today, whereas PF has had a 5 day absence.
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Post by: ixor568 on May 09, 2013, 09:25 am
Things just keep getting more and more weird.

Pf hasn't been online in 6 days but Dutchaanbod account shows activity from today. Really would be nice to hear from one of these guys as to WTF is going on?! Transferred all this coinage in anticipation of Pf grand return and am stuck. Not happy.  >:(
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Post by: kssr on May 09, 2013, 09:31 am
If it's the real PF, and he's really making a return, it will take a few days to get set up!

He needs to buy materials to package, stock to sell, computers to organise, stealth to master, write out vendor page draft, list all the items with correct pricing, find a 3rd party to cash out his coins,etc. All this to be done anonymous. Starting over isn't as easy as one would think.
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Post by: ixor568 on May 09, 2013, 09:39 am
That's all fine and dandy but the least he could do is pop on the forums and let's us know what's going instead of falling off the face of the earth for a week.

Oh well, at this point I'm pretty much accepting he got popped. After such a large presence on the forums to a complete absent it's just too strange.
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Post by: SeriousChemistry on May 09, 2013, 03:03 pm
Exactly my thoughts, ixor568!
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Post by: MangoSeason on May 09, 2013, 04:15 pm
Powerade? Pretty sure they only ship domestically these days..
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Post by: SeriousChemistry on May 09, 2013, 10:14 pm
If dutchaanbod=pfandleiher, how the hell is it possible that dutchaanbod was "last seen: today"?

And if they're two or more people, why does nobody of the others give a statement?
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Post by: dkn25523leech on May 10, 2013, 01:06 am
The mill keeps spinning and Pfandleiher ist still behind bars.
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: SeriousChemistry on May 12, 2013, 10:18 am
Did someone found an update about the Düsseldorf-Online-Drugdealer bust?
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Post by: AfterHour on May 12, 2013, 11:43 am
omg it´s not

DB
not PF
and not ME .....

Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: canardwc on May 12, 2013, 01:50 pm
omg it´s not

DB
not PF
and not ME .....
Did you talk with PF recently ?
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Post by: awesome1126 on May 12, 2013, 09:59 pm
Powerade? Pretty sure they only ship domestically these days..

THIS. That article seems to depict a smaller domestic operation.
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Post by: flwrchlds9 on May 12, 2013, 11:31 pm
SR not only place people pack and mail drugs. Only part of article that any important is that they open 100 new cases on BUYERS.
So in EU it seem them go after small buyers.

we agree with AH. Have patience start thing up take time and travel, etc. sometime everything not go as plan. also sometimes maybe people need lay low when others have problem.

also sometime mdma and titties cause big delays ;) :D
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Post by: SeriousChemistry on May 13, 2013, 02:05 pm
Got an interesting PM from a user... Here's the quote:

Quote
Hey, can't post in the rumor mill. The German bust was scene-st0re.biz, nothing sr related. Cheers

Let's see if he can give me further information.
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Post by: xxconnectxx on May 15, 2013, 06:58 am
based on schwarzenegger -

he´ll be back...

at least, i think so... ;-)

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Post by: Sero Tonin on May 22, 2013, 07:31 pm
guess who logged in today ;)
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Post by: SeriousChemistry on May 22, 2013, 07:51 pm
guess who logged in today ;)
Dutchaanbod & Pfandleiher Reloaded

...or the police with those accounts. xD
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Post by: snickerlover6969 on May 22, 2013, 10:14 pm
Wasn't PF selling on Atlantis when SR was down a few weeks ago?
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Post by: canardwc on May 23, 2013, 08:36 am
Wasn't PF selling on Atlantis when SR was down a few weeks ago?
No he never sold on Atlantis, he just have a vendor account
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Post by: SeriousChemistry on May 23, 2013, 02:47 pm
Still no statement although both have been last seen today.

... this is all getting very suspicious. What do you think? All that doesn't make sense for me.
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Post by: canardwc on May 23, 2013, 04:02 pm
Still no statement although both have been last seen today.

... this is all getting very suspicious. What do you think? All that doesn't make sense for me.
Did you know that World Trade Center attack was orchestrated by The White House ?
Freemason is everywhere dude

No seriously, he will probably post a message on this topic soon, i talked with him today.
Title: Sorry everybody
Post by: Pfandleiher on May 24, 2013, 10:52 am
Ok Guys, finally i made it back to the forums.
Some individual threw some stones in my way but i got lucky, thats all i can and want to say.

Now here is the deal, from now on i will only answer the messages, work the resolution center and confirm the orders.
I dont make the prices, i dont ship myself, its almost like im doing nothing, but the things i can do best, chat with the customers :P

This is a cooperation between DA & PF from now on.

Now the biggest change is that nothing will be shipped to the US for now.
NO FE, and of course u need quite good stats
And Refund rate for everybody is 30%, when I say refund then i mean refund :)
Lot of scammers try to get a reship because that doesn't affect the refund stats right ? :)

The Cocaine listings will be up on Sunday, shipping starts Monday.
everything over 50G has to be tracked.

MDMA, Ketamine, Heroine and LSD will follow soon. (i know these substances are harmful for a 100-rating but i dont make the rules anymore :) )

Here is a pic of the actual brick
http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/7j_.jpg

(the limit is the skyy)
100 gr     5500€     7150$         
50  gr     3000€     3900$         
10  gr      650€     845$       
5   gr      350€     455$         
1   gr      75€      97$       
Title: Re: Sorry everybody
Post by: CyberDMT on May 24, 2013, 11:57 am
Ok Guys, finally i made it back to the forums.
Some individual threw some stones in my way but i got lucky, thats all i can and want to say.

Now here is the deal, from now on i will only answer the messages, work the resolution center and confirm the orders.
I dont make the prices, i dont ship myself, its almost like im doing nothing, but the things i can do best, chat with the customers :P

This is a cooperation between DA & PF from now on.

Now the biggest change is that nothing will be shipped to the US for now.
NO FE, and of course u need quite good stats
And Refund rate for everybody is 30%, when I say refund then i mean refund :)
Lot of scammers try to get a reship because that doesn't affect the refund stats right ? :)

The Cocaine listings will be up on Sunday, shipping starts Monday.
everything over 50G has to be tracked.

MDMA, Ketamine, Heroine and LSD will follow soon. (i know these substances are harmful for a 100-rating but i dont make the rules anymore :) )

Here is a pic of the actual brick
http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/7j_.jpg

(the limit is the skyy)
100 gr     5500€     7150$         
50  gr     3000€     3900$         
10  gr      650€     845$       
5   gr      350€     455$         
1   gr      75€      97$     

Sad to hear...
I wanted an vendor who only sells MDMA. The reason?
A good vendor won't have time to deliver 100% pure products in more than one type. That's my opinion atleast...

Guess i'll wait untill the mdma avengers do a test on you anonymously...
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Post by: Pfandleiher on May 24, 2013, 12:44 pm
If I would be still in charge i would only sell mandy ;)
Good news is that the team is expanding and maybe now its possible to succeed with multiple substances :)
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Post by: canardwc on May 24, 2013, 12:51 pm
Good to see you back :)

Will try this cocaine asap ;)

+1Karma
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Post by: barbequehax on May 24, 2013, 01:07 pm
Will the packages be still as quickly shipped as before or will we have shipping times like from DA? Nice to see you back btw.
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Post by: Pfandleiher on May 24, 2013, 01:11 pm
I think it will be something between, I share my tricks with him, the rest is up to the post-system.
I heard they are rather slow lately, but maybe that was only DHL.

However, I just put up the cocaine listings
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Post by: barbequehax on May 24, 2013, 01:16 pm
I think it will be something between, I share my tricks with him, the rest is up to the post-system.
I heard they are rather slow lately, but maybe that was only DHL.

However, I just put up the cocaine listings

Well, domestic packages should take a maximum of 1-2 days (which was the time it took when you sent them). Other tricks that that should not be needed, shouldn't they
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Post by: Pfandleiher on May 24, 2013, 01:50 pm
I think it will be something between, I share my tricks with him, the rest is up to the post-system.
I heard they are rather slow lately, but maybe that was only DHL.

However, I just put up the cocaine listings

Well, domestic packages should take a maximum of 1-2 days (which was the time it took when you sent them). Other tricks that that should not be needed, shouldn't they

My bad, I didnt realize we were talking about domestic shipping :)
Of course thats only 1-2 days.
Shipping takes place about 4x a week
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Post by: barbequehax on May 24, 2013, 02:17 pm
I think it will be something between, I share my tricks with him, the rest is up to the post-system.
I heard they are rather slow lately, but maybe that was only DHL.

However, I just put up the cocaine listings

Well, domestic packages should take a maximum of 1-2 days (which was the time it took when you sent them). Other tricks that that should not be needed, shouldn't they

My bad, I didnt realize we were talking about domestic shipping :)
Of course thats only 1-2 days.
Shipping takes place about 4x a week

Alright, at which account can we order the MDMA? Yours or DAs?
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Post by: Pfandleiher on May 24, 2013, 02:24 pm
mine, but I dont have a exact date on that yet.
But afaiac it should be available by the middle of next week.
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Post by: PotatoConnoisseur on May 24, 2013, 02:41 pm
This is a little confusing but still exciting. I like the no USA shipping rule, vendors who ship everywhere but the US usually seem to have more staying power. They don't burn out as quick.

I saw MBB mentioned on your profile, I'm assuming you'll be using some form of outer stealth too and not just throwing a bag into a package?

It's great to see you back, I wish you luck.
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Post by: Pfandleiher on May 24, 2013, 02:53 pm
thanks :)

when it comes to bulk the stealthiness will be top notch.
And the normal business letters are stealth as always.
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: barbequehax on May 24, 2013, 03:10 pm
mine, but I dont have a exact date on that yet.
But afaiac it should be available by the middle of next week.

Will the prices stay the way you stated in this thread before?
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Post by: Pfandleiher on May 24, 2013, 03:13 pm
1000 gr       10000  13000     
500  gr        5500  7150       
250  gr        3000  3900       
100  gr        1300  1690       
50   gr         700  910     
10   gr         150  195     
5    gr          90  117     
1    gr          25  32     

these are the prices which i habe been given, see it as a alpha version
left € right $
Title: PROMO
Post by: Pfandleiher on May 24, 2013, 03:48 pm
the first 10 customers will receive a nice bonus, up to 20% !!!!
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Post by: xxconnectxx on May 24, 2013, 05:58 pm
i did it...
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: CyberDMT on May 24, 2013, 10:59 pm
If I would be still in charge i would only sell mandy ;)
Good news is that the team is expanding and maybe now its possible to succeed with multiple substances :)

You got PF's MDMA supplier or DA's MDMA supplier or you both had the same?
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Post by: tomleepdx on May 25, 2013, 02:34 am
No US,
No MDMA,
Oh, and nice SKYY comment.
Title: Re: PROMO
Post by: toejammer on May 25, 2013, 06:19 am
the first 10 customers will receive a nice bonus, up to 20% !!!!


Send money now avoid the Christmas rush!!!

MDMA Jesus I say...
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread **** \\\\\\\
Post by: Pfandleiher on May 26, 2013, 06:36 am
Forums are finally back up :) Missed u guys :)
7 orders so far, XXXG ;) keep it going :)

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Post by: Pfandleiher on May 26, 2013, 07:36 pm
8 Orders :)
Thanks for the trust you put in me :)
And thanks for the Karma :) + or - :)

I'll keep u updated
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Post by: Pfandleiher on May 27, 2013, 06:58 am
Update 27.5: We process the orders now, they are on their way first thing tomorrow morning!
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Post by: awesome1126 on May 27, 2013, 10:47 pm
Update 27.5: We process the orders now, they are on their way first thing tomorrow morning!

Drooling and awaiting the positive reviews before I order my pack!
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Post by: Pfandleiher on May 29, 2013, 07:45 am
Im bored so I gonna post an update :)

It took a bit longer than expected to work the workers in :)
From now on they work on a daily basis and everything should go very smoothly.

just letting you know we already had about 17 orders, from 1-1oz, eager to see the reviews :)
too bad that its a holiday tomorrow

cheers

PS: I will give u guys the tracking numbers tonight, and we are also trying to source other substances, but only A+++ Grade, so it might take a bit :) We dont want to offer anything thats not over the top
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Post by: Pfandleiher on May 29, 2013, 07:52 am
oh and please dont get mad if your 1-5g are not in a MB-Bag.
they are hard to come by, it takes over a week.
And we have no experience with them yet, but as soon as the first orders get finalized and u guys like our product we buy thousands of them.
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Post by: Pfandleiher on May 31, 2013, 05:32 am
Updates hurt sometimes I know :)
Germany, dont expect your order before Saturday. Aller Anfang ist schwierig.
Rest of Europe : In the course of next week

Please dont FE, one guy already done it. But your $ is safe with me :)
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Post by: Pfandleiher on May 31, 2013, 07:48 pm
Everything is on the way, everbody who ordered with tracking has their number in the mailbox.

BTW i already sold 13 on ATL :) just saying.
Just in case SR is down

Good luck everybody.
As you know, it takes a few days until the tracking is active
Title: Some News
Post by: Pfandleiher on June 01, 2013, 08:39 am
as soon as the C orders arrive next week, and everything is fine on our end,
we will put up MDMA listings.
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Post by: mrmdma on June 02, 2013, 10:24 am
Any chance on getting MDMA up before Wednesday? The other MDMA vendor I have been thinking about still does not have MBBs. If I understood right, you guys carry MBBs and offer them for anyone who'd like them?
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Post by: Pfandleiher on June 02, 2013, 03:38 pm
MBBs will be implemented (yeah fancy word) monday. at least thats the day we get it, maybe the orders already go out a few hours earlier but from tuesday on we try do send every order in a MBB.
We will discuss the MDMA matter tomorrow night. DA and me
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Post by: PotatoConnoisseur on June 02, 2013, 10:36 pm
I'm really interested to see what comes of this. I may have to hop on a bulk M listing asap depending on how the coke orders go.
Just to clarify you're cool with shipping to Canada, correct? I have go-to Euro vendors but you're super-crazy-fast shipping times may be needed for festie season.
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Post by: mrmdma on June 03, 2013, 09:18 am
MBBs will be implemented (yeah fancy word) monday. at least thats the day we get it, maybe the orders already go out a few hours earlier but from tuesday on we try do send every order in a MBB.
We will discuss the MDMA matter tomorrow night. DA and me

Great news and so happy seeing you posting actively again! One thing I'd like to know still - I see you have the tracking option for all orders, are the orders that are tracked sent with "Exprès Letter" or something else that does not require signing for within EU? I am really not afraid of signing for orders, but I usually like to order with tracking so I can see if the letter has arrived so I can release escrow if it so happens that I am out of town.
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Post by: Pfandleiher on June 03, 2013, 10:48 am
it looks like the first c order has arrived, im really excited about the reviews :P
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Post by: Pfandleiher on June 04, 2013, 09:37 am
Still excited about them reviews ! :D
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Post by: mrmdma on June 04, 2013, 11:21 am
Still excited about them reviews ! :D
Put the MDMA up! I have some money that wants to get into your wallet.
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Post by: zookaa on June 05, 2013, 01:37 pm
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5 of 5    street stuff, low quality!    3 hours

Lol what the hell? Somebody trolling? Giving 5/5 and saying low quality?
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Post by: bigbabbablue on June 05, 2013, 02:26 pm
Would love to try that coke...The brick on the pic looks pretty nice :D
But pictures are not everything. The last review scares me a little bit. And the slow shipping doesnt sound good, too.
Maybe just Beginning problems..
Personally, I dont wanna spent 100 bucks for streetquality.
Usually i stick to C&M, he's a nice guy and offers rocks which i prefer. Also he has always a decent batch!
A lower amount than 1g would be nice to try. Maybe if Pfandleiher would sell 0,25g-Samples, he would get faster Feedback!
I think i would try him then.

Regards,
BBB
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Post by: Pfandleiher on June 05, 2013, 03:12 pm
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5 of 5    street stuff, low quality!    3 hours

Lol what the hell? Somebody trolling? Giving 5/5 and saying low quality?

Well to be honest, this was one customer, where I could already tell before delivery that he wont be satisfied with the product,
since no product can ever satisfy such customers, except for meth, however, I really appreciate the 5/5.
So dont you worry, the stuff is A Quality :)
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Post by: Pfandleiher on June 05, 2013, 03:14 pm
Would love to try that coke...The brick on the pic looks pretty nice :D
But pictures are not everything. The last review scares me a little bit. And the slow shipping doesnt sound good, too.
Maybe just Beginning problems..
Personally, I dont wanna spent 100 bucks for streetquality.
Usually i stick to C&M, he's a nice guy and offers rocks which i prefer. Also he has always a decent batch!
A lower amount than 1g would be nice to try. Maybe if Pfandleiher would sell 0,25g-Samples, he would get faster Feedback!
I think i would try him then.

Regards,
BBB

Dont worry, its nothing but the usual trouble when beginning such operations, it always takes some time until the routine kicks in.
I wont pressure anybody :) I hope all the other feedbacks will be consecutive positive :)
No doubt 0.25 would sell faster, but it would also mean much more work, for now we dont know yet if the workers can handle it :)

cheers
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Post by: zookaa on June 05, 2013, 05:47 pm
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5 of 5    street stuff, low quality!    3 hours

Lol what the hell? Somebody trolling? Giving 5/5 and saying low quality?

Well to be honest, this was one customer, where I could already tell before delivery that he wont be satisfied with the product,
since no product can ever satisfy such customers, except for meth, however, I really appreciate the 5/5.
So dont you worry, the stuff is A Quality :)

Now that's funny :D
Ok, well, I have no experience with cocaine, I never bought or sold any, and I never tried it and I don't even want to try it. But I know one guy that loves coke and would love to get some HQ cocaine. He buys street stuff every weekend, and I have no idea how your, or other HQ cocaine, compares to this street stuff. How much would be 1g of your coke be worth on german streets? I really have no idea, so I thought I ask the experts lol :)

cheers
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Post by: Pfandleiher on June 05, 2013, 06:02 pm
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5 of 5    street stuff, low quality!    3 hours

Lol what the hell? Somebody trolling? Giving 5/5 and saying low quality?

Well to be honest, this was one customer, where I could already tell before delivery that he wont be satisfied with the product,
since no product can ever satisfy such customers, except for meth, however, I really appreciate the 5/5.
So dont you worry, the stuff is A Quality :)

Now that's funny :D
Ok, well, I have no experience with cocaine, I never bought or sold any, and I never tried it and I don't even want to try it. But I know one guy that loves coke and would love to get some HQ cocaine. He buys street stuff every weekend, and I have no idea how your, or other HQ cocaine, compares to this street stuff. How much would be 1g of your coke be worth on german streets? I really have no idea, so I thought I ask the experts lol :)

cheers

Now this is a very tough question, i never cut cocaine before, u alway hear u can make 4g out of 1 g pure stuff blablablabla.
The thing is i think people like lidocaine with some coke and speed much more than clean cocaine because its just clean cocaine :D
Well yeah i cant answer your question :D Best thing would be just to stay away from coke :D
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Post by: zookaa on June 05, 2013, 06:27 pm
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5 of 5    street stuff, low quality!    3 hours

Lol what the hell? Somebody trolling? Giving 5/5 and saying low quality?

Well to be honest, this was one customer, where I could already tell before delivery that he wont be satisfied with the product,
since no product can ever satisfy such customers, except for meth, however, I really appreciate the 5/5.
So dont you worry, the stuff is A Quality :)

Now that's funny :D
Ok, well, I have no experience with cocaine, I never bought or sold any, and I never tried it and I don't even want to try it. But I know one guy that loves coke and would love to get some HQ cocaine. He buys street stuff every weekend, and I have no idea how your, or other HQ cocaine, compares to this street stuff. How much would be 1g of your coke be worth on german streets? I really have no idea, so I thought I ask the experts lol :)

cheers

Now this is a very tough question, i never cut cocaine before, u alway hear u can make 4g out of 1 g pure stuff blablablabla.
The thing is i think people like lidocaine with some coke and speed much more than clean cocaine because its just clean cocaine :D
Well yeah i cant answer your question :D Best thing would be just to stay away from coke :D

Haha ok, well I don't plan to cut it at all, I'd just sell the coke as it is, and just to this one guy. I'd sell it to him for a slightly higher price, to make all the hassle of ordering on SR at least a tiny bit worthwhile. It just has to be something he can't buy on the streets, uncut of course. He isn't poor either and he gave me this little hint that he is willing to pay good money for very good coke. I'd just pass it along to this guy... And I was just wondering what the real value of HQ coke is on the streets.
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Post by: Pfandleiher on June 05, 2013, 06:30 pm
Last feedback:

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5 of 5    street stuff, low quality!    3 hours

Lol what the hell? Somebody trolling? Giving 5/5 and saying low quality?

Well to be honest, this was one customer, where I could already tell before delivery that he wont be satisfied with the product,
since no product can ever satisfy such customers, except for meth, however, I really appreciate the 5/5.
So dont you worry, the stuff is A Quality :)

Now that's funny :D
Ok, well, I have no experience with cocaine, I never bought or sold any, and I never tried it and I don't even want to try it. But I know one guy that loves coke and would love to get some HQ cocaine. He buys street stuff every weekend, and I have no idea how your, or other HQ cocaine, compares to this street stuff. How much would be 1g of your coke be worth on german streets? I really have no idea, so I thought I ask the experts lol :)

cheers

Now this is a very tough question, i never cut cocaine before, u alway hear u can make 4g out of 1 g pure stuff blablablabla.
The thing is i think people like lidocaine with some coke and speed much more than clean cocaine because its just clean cocaine :D
Well yeah i cant answer your question :D Best thing would be just to stay away from coke :D

Haha ok, well I don't plan to cut it at all, I'd just sell the coke as it is, and just to this one guy. I'd sell it to him for a slightly higher price, to make all the hassle of ordering on SR at least a tiny bit worthwhile. It just has to be something he can't buy on the streets, uncut of course. He isn't poor either and he gave me this little hint that he is willing to pay good money for very good coke. I'd just pass it along to this guy... And I was just wondering what the real value of HQ coke is on the streets.

Du kannst locker 150 aufwärts verlangen, musst halt wirklich hoffen dass er ein Gourmet ist und die Qualität auch erkennt.
IdR erkennt man sie daran dass man auf einmal nicht viel mehr als 0.1 ziehen kann :D Vom straßen zeug gleich mal 0,5er nasen, frag ihn mal was bei seinem zeug so ne übliche dosis ist :P
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Post by: zookaa on June 05, 2013, 07:12 pm
150?? Ohne scheiß??? Ich dachte ehrlichgesagt 110-120, und das kam mir schon sehr lukrativ vor, aber ich hab ja auch keine Ahnung :D

Ob er ein Kenner ist weiß ich nicht so genau, ich habe mich mit ihm über Coke noch nie unterhalten, bis auf das eine mal kurz. Hat mich ja auch nie Interessiert, bis jetzt :D Ich sehe ihn dieses Wochenende, dann frag ich ihn mal aus. Wäre geil wenn ich bis dahin was für ihn zum probieren hätte. Hab leider nicht mehr genug BTC für 1g, aber vielleicht krieg ich die Tage noch ein paar BTC. Verschickt ihr jetzt eigentlich täglich? Also wäre eine kurzfristige Bestellung schnell versandt?
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Post by: Pfandleiher on June 05, 2013, 08:24 pm
150?? Ohne scheiß??? Ich dachte ehrlichgesagt 110-120, und das kam mir schon sehr lukrativ vor, aber ich hab ja auch keine Ahnung :D

Ob er ein Kenner ist weiß ich nicht so genau, ich habe mich mit ihm über Coke noch nie unterhalten, bis auf das eine mal kurz. Hat mich ja auch nie Interessiert, bis jetzt :D Ich sehe ihn dieses Wochenende, dann frag ich ihn mal aus. Wäre geil wenn ich bis dahin was für ihn zum probieren hätte. Hab leider nicht mehr genug BTC für 1g, aber vielleicht krieg ich die Tage noch ein paar BTC. Verschickt ihr jetzt eigentlich täglich? Also wäre eine kurzfristige Bestellung schnell versandt?

Ich würde lügen wenn ich sagen würde wir verschicken gerade täglich, aber nach und nach nehmen die Bestellungen zu, morgen zb. gehen wieder alle orders raus.
Aber wegen 1-2 1g orders fährt leider keiner über die Grenze :)

Keine Angst, Coke Clientél rennt nicht so schnell davon :P
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Post by: PotatoConnoisseur on June 05, 2013, 08:34 pm
You and DB talk about MDMA yet?
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Post by: Pfandleiher on June 06, 2013, 07:54 am
You and DB talk about MDMA yet?

Lots of times LOL
but the get to the point, as soon as we see that the workers work efficient and without any mistakes, we will let them also do mdma letters :) Hope we can say for sure by sunday

cheers
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Post by: zookaa on June 06, 2013, 08:40 am
150?? Ohne scheiß??? Ich dachte ehrlichgesagt 110-120, und das kam mir schon sehr lukrativ vor, aber ich hab ja auch keine Ahnung :D

Ob er ein Kenner ist weiß ich nicht so genau, ich habe mich mit ihm über Coke noch nie unterhalten, bis auf das eine mal kurz. Hat mich ja auch nie Interessiert, bis jetzt :D Ich sehe ihn dieses Wochenende, dann frag ich ihn mal aus. Wäre geil wenn ich bis dahin was für ihn zum probieren hätte. Hab leider nicht mehr genug BTC für 1g, aber vielleicht krieg ich die Tage noch ein paar BTC. Verschickt ihr jetzt eigentlich täglich? Also wäre eine kurzfristige Bestellung schnell versandt?

Ich würde lügen wenn ich sagen würde wir verschicken gerade täglich, aber nach und nach nehmen die Bestellungen zu, morgen zb. gehen wieder alle orders raus.
Aber wegen 1-2 1g orders fährt leider keiner über die Grenze :)

Keine Angst, Coke Clientél rennt nicht so schnell davon :P

Ok, verstehe. Na dann viel Erfolg, so daß ihr in Zukunft wie ein schweizer Uhrwerk arbeitet ;)

In deiner Signatur steht was von weed.... :D Wenn bei euch alles gut klappt und alles läuft, wann würdet ihr dann ungefäääähr weed ins Angebot nehmen? Ich brauche dringend mehr domestic bulk weed vendors :D Ich mach zwar kein Gewinn damit, aber wenigstens muss ich kein Geld mehr für minderwertiges Straßen weed ausgeben, für den eigenbedarf.

Also, viel Glück und macht weiter so.
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Post by: barbequehax on June 06, 2013, 07:26 pm
Weed wäre was echt feines :)
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Post by: Pfandleiher on June 06, 2013, 07:27 pm
Ja wir sind dabei, eher so 100er listings oder mehr so Kilos? :P
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Post by: zookaa on June 07, 2013, 10:18 am
Also kilos über SR hab ich persönlich noch nie bestellt, wär mir auch zu Riskant jemanden für ein Päckchen mit 1 kilo weed unterschreiben zu lassen. Lieber bleibe ich auf der sicheren Seite.

Aber regelmäßig 100er sind kein Problem, da bin ich sofort dabei ;)
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Post by: Pfandleiher on June 07, 2013, 01:19 pm
Also kilos über SR hab ich persönlich noch nie bestellt, wär mir auch zu Riskant jemanden für ein Päckchen mit 1 kilo weed unterschreiben zu lassen. Lieber bleibe ich auf der sicheren Seite.

Aber regelmäßig 100er sind kein Problem, da bin ich sofort dabei ;)

süß :)
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Post by: red85 on June 07, 2013, 04:01 pm
Nice to see you back Pfandleiher :)

Do you send Rocks or Powder domestic (D)?
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Post by: Pfandleiher on June 07, 2013, 05:00 pm
Nice to see you back Pfandleiher :)

Do you send Rocks or Powder domestic (D)?

Whats powder? :P
As far as I know the coke is usually so hard u cant even crush it to powder, but i have to admit I havent seen yet how the stuff gets sent out, I m still waiting for a review :D
And there is no difference between int and domestic shipment, both good ans stealthy as fuck

cheers
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Post by: red85 on June 07, 2013, 05:23 pm
aahhh ich schreib mal in deutsch, denn englisch ist nicht so meine stärke :)

Ja hab früher viel gelesen über deine sicherheit bei der post! Mir ist es egal obs steine odr pulver ist aber meine freunde fahren auf steine ab! Hehe

Ich warte auf meine BTc und werde dann mal ne kleine Bestellung machen :D
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Post by: zookaa on June 07, 2013, 08:30 pm
Also kilos über SR hab ich persönlich noch nie bestellt, wär mir auch zu Riskant jemanden für ein Päckchen mit 1 kilo weed unterschreiben zu lassen. Lieber bleibe ich auf der sicheren Seite.

Aber regelmäßig 100er sind kein Problem, da bin ich sofort dabei ;)

süß :)
Wie gesagt, ich decke damit meinen Eigenbedarf, und das reicht mir ;) Geld mach ich damit keins... Zu wenig Angebote auf SR damit es sich auch nur annähernd finanziell lohnt.
Außerdem habe ich bis auf AH nicht so viele Vendors gesehen die Weed kiloweise verkaufen.
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Post by: h1n1z2 on June 08, 2013, 07:14 am
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=108950.0

Go for it PF
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Post by: Pfandleiher on June 09, 2013, 08:57 am
I dont somebody has ordered yet who is gonna test it too :P

And guys, please be patient, I dont know why the german post has become so slow, but thats how it is now.
So we have to deal with it :(
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Post by: xxconnectxx on June 10, 2013, 07:29 am

And guys, please be patient, I dont know why the german post has become so slow, but thats how it is now.
So we have to deal with it :(

Schon mal ans Wetter gedacht ;-) 

lg
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Post by: barbequehax on June 10, 2013, 08:30 am
Ja wir sind dabei, eher so 100er listings oder mehr so Kilos? :P
Was wäre denn der Kostenvoranschlag für 100g 500g bzw 1kg?
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Post by: h1n1z2 on June 13, 2013, 06:27 pm
Ordered Sunday, in transit Monday, now Thursday night and tracking isn't even showing up yet. This is crazy, I expected to have it by tomorrow but it looks like it hasn't even been sorted yet.

If it's dropped off like PF says it was on Monday then its not his fault, German post is really bad right now if thats the case. I've never seen something not even registered as in the system for 4 days and counting before. Hopefully it at least registers tomorrow.

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Post by: h1n1z2 on June 14, 2013, 07:05 am
Full week now and nothing showing as having even been dropped off.

Is anyone else experiencing the same? No reports of this on any other German sellers feedback
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Post by: Pfandleiher on June 14, 2013, 11:46 am
i am too wondering whats up regarding that issue.


however

Everything ordered between tuesday and tonight will be shipped tomorrow, sorry but we havent had enough orders, it looks like we will also put up amphetamine listings this sunday. MDMA will follow soon.
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Post by: Pfandleiher on June 14, 2013, 11:47 am
Full week now and nothing showing as having even been dropped off.

Is anyone else experiencing the same? No reports of this on any other German sellers feedback

good news, tracking is working now :)
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Post by: h1n1z2 on June 14, 2013, 05:51 pm
Full week now and nothing showing as having even been dropped off.

Is anyone else experiencing the same? No reports of this on any other German sellers feedback

good news, tracking is working now :)

Yes it is. Not PF's fault, german post is slow at the moment!

Anyway, hopefully all good from here in. thumbs up
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Post by: Pfandleiher on June 17, 2013, 01:30 pm
Small update,
I will list pure Aphetamine paste now. Pricing gonna be pretty awesome.
If you are interested in anything more than 25KG, just let us know.
We have our tricks :) (Whole Europe)

Also, anything ordered today will be shipped tomorrow, sorry for the huge delay but in the beginning of last week we almost had no orders and now we get pretty much :)

We will start shipping the speed in the course of this week, and we will also start shipping on a daily basis.

Cheers
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Post by: Sero Tonin on June 17, 2013, 06:01 pm
but what about the mandy candy...
to the states :)
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Post by: Pfandleiher on June 18, 2013, 07:43 am
MDMA is next on the list after Speed, and as soon as its running good I will try to convince the guys to also do USA :)
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Post by: Acen on June 18, 2013, 11:09 am
Also die Preise für deine Paste sind wirklich gut! ;) Obwohl ich das Glück habe nur ca. 20 Minuten über die A61 nach Venlo zu haben, haben wir höhere Preise bei uns für Paste.
Werd mir Anfang nächsten Monat mal 50 davon kaufen um es zu verteilen und selbst anzutesten, sollte das Zoich okay sein, haste nen neuen permanenten Kunden! hehe...

Bin auf jeden Fall mal gespannt!

PEACE!


P.S.: Haste die Paste mal im Labor testen lassen?
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Post by: barbequehax on June 18, 2013, 11:17 am
Wieviel % vom Gewicht wird die Paste ca verlieren wenn sie trocknet oder hast du eine Idee wie man das Trocknen verhindern könnte?
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Post by: Pfandleiher on June 18, 2013, 02:33 pm
*husthusthust*
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Post by: PotatoConnoisseur on June 18, 2013, 02:59 pm
Please buy his speed so he can move on to MDMA, people! I already reserved some of it, I want to be one of the firsts to try it out. Those are some killer speed prices too btw, unfortunately I'm not in the EU so I can't get any bulk.
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Post by: Acen on June 18, 2013, 05:38 pm
@Pfandleiher: Welchem Großhändler, häh?
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Post by: PotatoConnoisseur on June 18, 2013, 05:59 pm
@Pfandleiher: Welchem Großhändler, häh?

I'm assuming he meant DB, I'm pretty sure he sold some pretty high quality speed paste. Everything these two have brought to the table has been good quality in my experience.
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Post by: Acen on June 18, 2013, 06:33 pm
QAnd who is DB please? :)
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Post by: PotatoConnoisseur on June 19, 2013, 01:41 am
I'm always afraid I'll misspell his name, I think it's Dutchaanbod. Could be wrong on the spelling though. Was pretty big last fall then had issues in the winter and quit. Now is teaming up with Pfandleiher on his new reloaded account.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure this is who he meant.
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Post by: Bob Arctor on June 19, 2013, 08:08 am
How much of that speed paste will be lost when dried? Any active cuts, like caffeine?
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Post by: Pfandleiher on June 19, 2013, 05:31 pm
First speed orders will be shipped on Friday.
I am sure after 3-4 Days u will know these little details :)
I cant tell u how much weight will be left after drying.
And no there are no active cuts in it.
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Post by: PotatoConnoisseur on June 19, 2013, 07:29 pm
First speed orders will be shipped on Friday.
I am sure after 3-4 Days u will know these little details :)
I cant tell u how much weight will be left after drying, all I know is that this speed is selling pretty good on the Road so far, and no I did not mean DB :D
And no there are no active cuts in it.

Well shit now I'm curious. Maybe AfterHours? I haven't been following the wholesale speed scene too much.
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Post by: Pfandleiher on June 20, 2013, 06:59 am
Maybe :D

Now with finally a LOT!!! of letters on the way, im expecting a big delivery-wave today and tomorrow :)
Hope the post wont let us down.

cheers
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Post by: zookaa on June 20, 2013, 10:00 am
Maybe :D

Interesting :D And AH is buying the MDMA from you?? According to his 1KG MDMA listing description:

Quote
pic coming,

this is the BAD ASS MDMA from PF!

bast stuff on SR

Not too bad if you guys team up :D I just hope I can buy some good priced weed soon!!

Good luck guys

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Post by: Pfandleiher on June 20, 2013, 12:06 pm
Please just leave this topic alone :D
I never sold anything to him, he just used the "Brandname" :)
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Post by: Pfandleiher on June 20, 2013, 02:33 pm
I take back my statement about the Speed. lets just say the road hasnt seen such great quality yet. (in bulk)

cheers
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Post by: Mr.Charlie on June 20, 2013, 02:43 pm
Thinking about accepting US orders anytime soon??

Considering making a debut in the coca business here in my local village, would love to work with your stuff, I loved how you did business back when I ordered MDMA from you in the golden days
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Post by: h1n1z2 on June 20, 2013, 07:23 pm
Approaching two weeks tomorrow with EU, and Germany usually gets to where I am in 4 days. Not PF's fault at all, but never the less, this is terrible.
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Post by: Pfandleiher on June 20, 2013, 08:41 pm
Somehow i got the feeling that we have to get used to this shit.

However, does the tracking say something else now ? Dont have the Number anymore.
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Post by: ferry1g on June 22, 2013, 01:28 pm
Have placed an order for 50g of PR's Amph.
Will update on arrival.

cheers
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Post by: BubbleBuster on June 23, 2013, 03:55 pm
@PF
when you ship an bulk order on da house,  do you send it in high-stealth mode?
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Post by: Pfandleiher on June 24, 2013, 12:07 pm
There is no difference in the packaging method.

BTW: we dont put AS MUCH work into domestic shipments, since its not necessary.
Just saying :)

cheers
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Post by: Pfandleiher on June 24, 2013, 05:36 pm
Reviews are overrated huh ? :D
Sold soooo many shit and not even a single review, thats kinda sad :D

hehe, but as long you are buying im good :D

cheers
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Post by: ferry1g on June 25, 2013, 12:41 am
Hold your horses PR!

When i get my order i will give you an honest good review with every info another buyer needs ;)

regards,
ferry
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Post by: Acen on June 25, 2013, 07:31 am
I am very keen on some reviews for his Pep! ;-)
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Post by: xxconnectxx on June 25, 2013, 09:35 am
Reviews are overrated huh ? :D
Sold soooo many shit and not even a single review, thats kinda sad :D

hehe, but as long you are buying im good :D

cheers

ok... so here´s a review for COKE

package - stealth!!! i loved it... ;-)

shipping time - ok, no troubles...

quality/price - TOP! don´t know what to say else... ;-)

contact: A+ - top contact! but the last few days... :-(   you´ll receive my order... haha

i´ll do it again for sure - in a larger amount - just have to get the btc in the next days...

all in all - approved
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Post by: BubbleBuster on June 25, 2013, 10:24 am
Reviews are overrated huh ? :D
Sold soooo many shit and not even a single review, thats kinda sad :D

hehe, but as long you are buying im good :D

cheers

-----ATTENTIONATTENTIONATTENTIONATTENTIONATTENTIONATTENTIONATTENTIONATTENTIONATTENTIONATTENTIONATTENTIONATTENTIONATTENTION---


First off all, this dude gives perfect support even if you are a Nobody (not orderd yet)

Truely answers questions, i guess ;)
From odrder to tranist 30 min.
THA REAL SHIZZLE!
Will update later!

Cheers PF!

Hope you sleep well now.
Bubble
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Post by: Pfandleiher on June 25, 2013, 01:27 pm
Kann bitte mal jemand 1G paste trocknen lassen :D Jeder frägt mich das selbe und ich weiß es einfach nicht hehe

cheers
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Post by: Acen on June 25, 2013, 01:34 pm
Kann bitte mal jemand 1G paste trocknen lassen :D Jeder frägt mich das selbe und ich weiß es einfach nicht hehe

cheers

Wie? Mach doch einfach?! häääh?

;-)
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Post by: dadalife77 on June 25, 2013, 01:48 pm
Thinking about accepting US orders anytime soon??

Considering making a debut in the coca business here in my local village, would love to work with your stuff, I loved how you did business back when I ordered MDMA from you in the golden days

PF I would like to give your cola a try as well... I mean just the fact its coming from you makes me want to give it a shot haha

I have also done business with you back in the golden days and hope you are willing to work with established buyers with good stats from the US?

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Post by: i push the kush on June 25, 2013, 06:01 pm
I have an idea for your business, and I KNOW it would make you a lot of money, mention this to your team. If you start shipping BULK MDMA to the USA you will make SO much money, but ONLY bulk, like 50G+. I miss you PF!  :'( You were one of my first experiences on the SR and one of the best. Please come back and serve everyone over the pond.. We miss you.

Regards,
i push the kush
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Post by: Pfandleiher on June 26, 2013, 04:41 pm
IMPORTANT UPDATE :
Since the BTC Value on this site is so insane, we had to raise the prices by  some % until SR corrects it, we are sorry!
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Post by: h1n1z2 on June 26, 2013, 06:46 pm
My order arrived - german post is slow, but as for the seller - stealth was great and comms were great.

Recommended.
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Post by: danb15 on June 27, 2013, 01:25 am
Just placed an order for some of this coke will update once received but so far i can tell it will be quality communication with PF has been great thanks PF
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Post by: Sero Tonin on June 27, 2013, 07:00 am
PF whenever you want to hop on the US train let us know..
i got 103 and change left after buying stuff and all i want is a gram of your cola :D


yumyum
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Post by: Minchia on June 27, 2013, 02:41 pm
subbing  8)
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Post by: Pfandleiher on June 28, 2013, 10:13 am
Update 28.6. We shipped everything today, if you missed the deadline yesterday, no problem because we ship again tomorrow :D Everything that is ordered until tonight 8PM
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Post by: eindhoven on June 28, 2013, 06:42 pm
Pfandleiher was a scammer ! very disappointed  >:(
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Post by: Pfandleiher on June 28, 2013, 09:14 pm
Pfandleiher was a scammer ! very disappointed  >:(

Jupp I agree, hes a total Biatsch!
Anyone else wanna suck some COCK ?
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Post by: danb15 on July 02, 2013, 08:37 am
Anyone try out the speed yet?
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Post by: cannamanuk on July 02, 2013, 08:59 am
I stuck an 100g order in, will update when arrived on quality and ez testing
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Post by: costello143 on July 02, 2013, 11:15 am
Hi Pfand,

Nice to see you now !!!!

How are you ? The return of a old school trusted seller

Do you think you will put some freebase listing ?

I load some BTC and buy your coke for testing

Have a nice day !

I
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Post by: bigbabbablue on July 04, 2013, 12:36 pm
Just ordered some of his shiny flakes...Hope it will arrive soon.
Can't wait to test it!
Will update about quality. Price is unbeatable, so if it's also top notch i got a new favorite Vendor..
Regards,
BBB
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Post by: DnBDemon on July 04, 2013, 08:51 pm
ordered some c few days ago.. running to the mailbox twice a day hoping for the c to finally arrive but unfortunately nothing showed up yet :(
fingers crossed it'll arrive tomorrow as i want to party hard this weekend^^

quite curious about the quality as this is my first order with pfandleiher reloaded..
so far non of the c-vendors suprised me with their quality.. most of the stuff is not c at all!!
never ever trust those lab tests from pinapple etc.. total bullshit!
bought quite a lot of c from different vendors here on sr and most of it ruined my nose completely!! and also my friends noses (sukeys ucc for example) :P
bet there is shitloads of levamisol in there which is very pro-inflammatory and it fucks up your immune system!!

looks like most of the ppl here on sr just dont know what real c is and how it should effect etc.

will give some proper feedback bout pfandleihers c once i am holding it in my hands :)
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Post by: cannamanuk on July 05, 2013, 09:04 am
On the guys thread he says he ships few times a week..
Told me it was Wednesday
Title: Re: ////// **** Pfandleiher Reloaded review thread : Weird profile update on SR!
Post by: Jason Bourne on July 05, 2013, 10:26 am
Hi guys,

don't you think there is something fishy going on with Pfandleihers vendors page?

Quote
IMPORTANT UPDATE :
Don send orders encrypted nomore we cant open theme anymore....Order that where open that where encrypted we cancel so you can order again,
Also if you send us messages don send theme in englisch nomore...

- WTF? I mean PF has always provided customer support in english, up to now? Don send theme messages in englisch nomore? It is most obvious that english proficiency of whomever wrote that text, is most likely not sufficient to handle customer support in english.  This text above was not written by PF. Check the TCs, that's PF. The above is not.
Also, I wonder why he didn't write that statement in whatever language he wanted the PMs to be written in?

- Don send orders encrypted nomore we cant open them anymore... Sure you can't. PF has the private key and password, you don't.
To potential customers, I'd advise to refrain from doing the above. GPGs purpose is to encrypt, sure, but in a way only the chosen recipient could decrypt, so guaranteeing one each other they're authentically the intended sender and recipient of the encrypted message. I would entrust my dropbox to PF. But not to anyone else. That's what GPG does.

Just my 2 cents.
Peace out

Jason

   
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Post by: downlight on July 05, 2013, 11:22 am
I think something is very wrong with PF's account.  :-\

I PM'd them and they responded saying PF is gone for now and they have taken over.

This makes no sense whatsoever, he would have posted on his vendor page or in here if
he was taking  a break and someone was filling in. I also doubt he would leave someone
in charge that cant speak english or be able to use his PGP.

I feel the account has been hacked, I hope not but it does not look good.
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Post by: Jason Bourne on July 05, 2013, 11:51 am
I think something is very wrong with PF's account.  :-\

I PM'd them and they responded saying PF is gone for now and they have taken over.

This makes no sense whatsoever, he would have posted on his vendor page or in here if
he was taking  a break and someone was filling in. I also doubt he would leave someone
in charge that cant speak english or be able to use his PGP.

I feel the account has been hacked, I hope not but it does not look good.

This is were I was getting.

You remember he posted mockery about German police on his profile? It would suck even worse if he was hacked by LE.

For me there is no doubt the update was not made by PF, the fact he hasn't the gpg key + password and your PM (would you mind posting that Btw?) kind of add up.

Wait a little 'till this matter is settled before ordering. Maybe someone with an ongoing order could report that to SR admins?


EDIT:
I got 2 PMs.
1 guy agreed this update seemed a bit dodgy. He also Pm'd PF to see if there was something up. The other one is wondering, too.

Its too late I already have an order in with them before this happened.
I also got rolled by DubGx2 two weeks ago.

Here is the message:
"Hi

PF is not here nomore for some time he wil come back till then we take it over :)

Gr"
Dodgey as fuck as far as im concerned  >:(

Shit tough luck mate.

Peace Out
Jason
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Post by: downlight on July 05, 2013, 12:01 pm
Its too late I already have an order in with them before this happened.
I also got rolled by DubGx2 two weeks ago.

Here is the message:

"Hi

PF is not here nomore for some time he wil come back till then we take it over :)

Gr"

Dodgey as fuck as far as im concerned  >:(

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Post by: zookaa on July 05, 2013, 01:12 pm
Hmmm that's very strange! But from what I have gathered is that Pfandleiher, the guy here on the forums and the one running the vendor account, was just a "spokesperson" of that group... whoever that group is! If you read through this thread it should become quite clear...
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Post by: BubbleBuster on July 05, 2013, 02:18 pm
Update 28.6. We shipped everything today, if you missed the deadline yesterday, no problem because we ship again tomorrow :D Everything that is ordered until tonight 8PM

So you shipped an order from the 24th also on the 28th?

????
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Post by: Acen on July 05, 2013, 02:31 pm
Hello!
My order was set "in transit" on Monday and today i got this message from him:

Pfandleiher Reloaded(99)    English please the german guy don answer messages have some private problems, Greats    1 hour

ME:   hi! Eine Frage noch zu meiner Bestellung:
Wird das Paket aus XXX geschickt? Ich würde gerne wissen wie lange das bis zu meiner Tür dauert. Weil von XXX -> XXX normalerweise nur nen Tqag, sollte also morgen da sein, oder?!    1 day

very strange if you ask me! So i think i´ll wait until tomorrow and then decide what to do. What would you do?
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Post by: bigbabbablue on July 05, 2013, 02:58 pm
My order got cancelled..Coins are back!
Not sure if i'll ever order here again..

@Acen:
I would remove some details of your last Post!
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Post by: Jason Bourne on July 05, 2013, 02:59 pm
Hmmm that's very strange! But from what I have gathered is that Pfandleiher, the guy here on the forums and the one running the vendor account, was just a "spokesperson" of that group... whoever that group is! If you read through this thread it should become quite clear...

I just did that, as suggested. It raised a lot of questions about his "identity", but I never got to that conclusion you mention above.


Hello!
My order was set "in transit" on Monday and today i got this message from him:

Pfandleiher Reloaded(99)    English please the german guy don answer messages have some private problems, Greats    1 hour

ME:   hi! Eine Frage noch zu meiner Bestellung:
Wird das Paket aus [SNIP] geschickt? Ich würde gerne wissen wie lange das bis zu meiner Tür dauert. Weil von [SNIP] -> [SNIP] normalerweise nur nen Tqag, sollte also morgen da sein, oder?!    1 day

very strange if you ask me! So i think i´ll wait until tomorrow and then decide what to do. What would you do?


It confirms what we strongly suspected. The german guy is not around, whether he is or not PF, he is the guy handling the business on SR.


If I understand that correctly, you have a domestic order inbound and you feel you should have gotten that by now.
What you should do is to:
- edit your post redacting the geographical details as I did above.
- do not FE (goes without saying)
- wait a little longer, it seems domestic mail is slow, according to feedback.
- then you could hit the report button on SR and explain what's going on.
- ask the vendor to cancel your order

Peace out 
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Post by: Jason Bourne on July 05, 2013, 03:16 pm
Hmmm that's very strange! But from what I have gathered is that Pfandleiher, the guy here on the forums and the one running the vendor account, was just a "spokesperson" of that group... whoever that group is! If you read through this thread it should become quite clear...

I just did that, as suggested. It raised a lot of questions about his "identity", but I never got to that conclusion you mention above.


Hello!
My order was set "in transit" on Monday and today i got this message from him:

Pfandleiher Reloaded(99)    English please the german guy don answer messages have some private problems, Greats    1 hour

ME:   hi! Eine Frage noch zu meiner Bestellung:
Wird das Paket aus [SNIP] geschickt? Ich würde gerne wissen wie lange das bis zu meiner Tür dauert. Weil von [SNIP] -> [SNIP] normalerweise nur nen Tqag, sollte also morgen da sein, oder?!    1 day

very strange if you ask me! So i think i´ll wait until tomorrow and then decide what to do. What would you do?


It confirms what we strongly suspected. The german guy is not around, whether he is or not PF, he is the guy handling the business on SR.


If I understand that correctly, you have a domestic order inbound and you feel you should have gotten that by now.
What you should do is to:
- edit your post redacting the geographical details as I did above.
- do not FE (goes without saying)
- wait a little longer, it seems domestic mail is slow, according to feedback.
- then you could hit the report button on SR and explain what's going on.
- ask the vendor to cancel your order

Peace out

Edit:
@Acen:
I would remove some details of your last Post!

This ASAP
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Post by: kssr on July 05, 2013, 03:48 pm
Wasn't it PF and Dutchaanbod running the account?

PF was basically German customer relations and forum customer relations, he stated he done no packing/order processing.
Dutchaanbod was part of team along with packing crew.

If above is true then maybe Dutchaanbod is answering PM's for him, hence why he can't speak German and the English wasn't good. Don like Don Order ring any bells. So maybe PF is actually ill, but you think he'd announce the changes.

EDIT:

After reading the vendor account page, the broken English definitely resembles that of Dutchaanbod.

I wouldn't want to say for definite but it looks Dutchaanbod has taken over account as PF is ill or elsewhere.. but doesn't have his GPG key yet.
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Post by: Acen on July 05, 2013, 06:19 pm
I got this answer some minutes ago:

Pfandleiher Reloaded(99)    Hi
All orders are send out yesterday there where allot so we had to spread the sendings
Greats
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Post by: cannamanuk on July 05, 2013, 06:40 pm
I got this answer some minutes ago:

Pfandleiher Reloaded(99)    Hi
All orders are send out yesterday there where allot so we had to spread the sendings
Greats

i got 100g market transit monday got same reply as you.
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Post by: fast dude on July 05, 2013, 06:54 pm
Speed full of solvent ,poor quality once solvent removed nowhere near 60 percent  :'(
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Post by: Acen on July 05, 2013, 07:29 pm
Huh? But 60% is pretty good right? I think so!

...

-Acen
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Post by: Dutchaanbod on July 05, 2013, 07:29 pm
Hi guys

don worry there is noting  happened PF have some private problems so he stopped with answer the PM's..

Everything is the same ass before only we ask not to send message's in deutsch

So you don have to FE....Packages send out from GER and we send stil TOP quality stuff  8)
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Post by: Dutchaanbod on July 05, 2013, 07:31 pm
Speed full of solvent ,poor quality once solvent removed nowhere near 60 percent  :'(

Where is your feedback or your pm ?

Have hear noting from some one so please go to fuck somewhere else
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Post by: fast dude on July 05, 2013, 09:07 pm
Mate never mind fuck off ive had more experience with sulph than most .Iknow good from bad and dont like getting shite .
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Post by: kssr on July 06, 2013, 03:36 pm
Seems I was correct, dutch has taken over the account.

Might order a G soon once I've finished Bungee's stuff.
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Post by: Jason Bourne on July 07, 2013, 02:42 am
Hi guys

don worry there is noting  happened PF have some private problems so he stopped with answer the PM's..

Everything is the same ass before only we ask not to send message's in deutsch

So you don have to FE....Packages send out from GER and we send stil TOP quality stuff  8)

Fuck me!

You should do a little PR here and on your profile db. This spooked me out mate.

Peace out
Jason
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Post by: Acen on July 08, 2013, 11:38 am
Hello guys!
Could someone from Germany please tell me how long it took to receive his package?
Dutchaanbood wrote me that my package was sent on Thursday and as far as i understood the whoole process it is sent from Germany. So it should be normally here, right? Maybe another customer could tell me how long it took. Thank you! :)

-Acen
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Post by: downlight on July 08, 2013, 01:15 pm
I would like to know why there is so much recent feedback and when you click to see the
item it is not listed ?
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Post by: commodore64 on July 08, 2013, 01:39 pm
Can someone actually comment on quality??? Comparison with other vendors quality would be good as well
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Post by: cannamanuk on July 09, 2013, 09:59 am
Can someone actually comment on quality??? Comparison with other vendors quality would be good as well

Ive only tried Cashmachines Super speed and it was Super speed.

The problem with this is its 10g under weight packaged, and soaking in solvents. Take about 20 minutes for them to dispperse . Then its another say 5-10g lost

So You get roughly 3 oz of good potent speed.

and for the price I say its still top quality. Still cheaper than others even with a loss on weight and drying. I think that it should be clearer that it isnt 100g other wise I would-Will buy again in future

100mg is a good dose gets you going
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Post by: Jason Bourne on July 09, 2013, 11:19 am
Can someone actually comment on quality??? Comparison with other vendors quality would be good as well

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=4750.msg1304959#msg1304959

Cape Crusader or BoyMaster all the way.
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Post by: costello143 on July 09, 2013, 12:15 pm
Hi pfand / dutchandbod

Do you think its possible you make some good freebase with your coke and sell it on SR???

Waiting on your news

Have a nice day
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Post by: Dutchaanbod on July 09, 2013, 08:54 pm
Hi pfand / dutchandbod

Do you think its possible you make some good freebase with your coke and sell it on SR???

Waiting on your news

Have a nice day

Hi

The next thing we will listing first is our baddass MDMA
Maybe that we wile list it after


Greats
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Post by: Sero Tonin on July 10, 2013, 12:13 am
Hey Dutch...any comments on this??

I wonder what happened to AfterHour?

Could this be? http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/ermittler-zerschlagen-internationalen-drogenring-a-910221.html#ref=

Quote
"International drug ring: Investigators arrest four suspects

DPA Drug trafficking in grand style: envelope with amphetamine The customer ordered on the Internet, the goods were then sent by mail to: narcotics investigators have arrested four suspects who should have acted in a big way with drugs.

Munich - drug trafficking in grand style: Drug investigators of the Bavarian Office of Criminal Investigation (LKA) have smashed an international drug ring. Spokesman According to one authority, investigators arrested four suspects from the Bavarian town of Deggendorf, Berlin and Brandenburg.

In those arrested is accordingly to three men and a woman 24-28 years of age. A 51-year-old Dutch left the officials after his interrogation again. The gang is said to have operated on a large scale drug trafficking on the Internet. According to investigators, the suspects had specialized in the drug trade in the encrypted and inaccessible darknet network. Therefore paid customers with an Internet currency by mail them the drugs were then sent.

Overall, the investigators searched 12 properties in the states of Baden-Württemberg, Berlin, Brandenburg and Bavaria - and found more than 18 kg amphetamine as well as cash, accounts, cars and real estate with a total value of around 700,000 euros safely."
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Post by: ferry1g on July 10, 2013, 08:47 am
I think it is AH, because he had 1kg listings with DHL shipping, and he hasnt been online on SR for like 6 days now....

Hey Dutch...any comments on this??

I wonder what happened to AfterHour?

Could this be? http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/ermittler-zerschlagen-internationalen-drogenring-a-910221.html#ref=

Quote
"International drug ring: Investigators arrest four suspects

DPA Drug trafficking in grand style: envelope with amphetamine The customer ordered on the Internet, the goods were then sent by mail to: narcotics investigators have arrested four suspects who should have acted in a big way with drugs.

Munich - drug trafficking in grand style: Drug investigators of the Bavarian Office of Criminal Investigation (LKA) have smashed an international drug ring. Spokesman According to one authority, investigators arrested four suspects from the Bavarian town of Deggendorf, Berlin and Brandenburg.

In those arrested is accordingly to three men and a woman 24-28 years of age. A 51-year-old Dutch left the officials after his interrogation again. The gang is said to have operated on a large scale drug trafficking on the Internet. According to investigators, the suspects had specialized in the drug trade in the encrypted and inaccessible darknet network. Therefore paid customers with an Internet currency by mail them the drugs were then sent.

Overall, the investigators searched 12 properties in the states of Baden-Württemberg, Berlin, Brandenburg and Bavaria - and found more than 18 kg amphetamine as well as cash, accounts, cars and real estate with a total value of around 700,000 euros safely."
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Post by: peaceloveharmony on July 10, 2013, 09:50 am
I´m pretty sure its PF who got busted as he was living there.

http://www.polizei.bayern.de/lka/news/presse/aktuell/index.html/181553
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Post by: Dutchaanbod on July 10, 2013, 01:55 pm
Hey Dutch...any comments on this??

I wonder what happened to AfterHour?

Could this be? http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/ermittler-zerschlagen-internationalen-drogenring-a-910221.html#ref=

Quote
"International drug ring: Investigators arrest four suspects

DPA Drug trafficking in grand style: envelope with amphetamine The customer ordered on the Internet, the goods were then sent by mail to: narcotics investigators have arrested four suspects who should have acted in a big way with drugs.

Munich - drug trafficking in grand style: Drug investigators of the Bavarian Office of Criminal Investigation (LKA) have smashed an international drug ring. Spokesman According to one authority, investigators arrested four suspects from the Bavarian town of Deggendorf, Berlin and Brandenburg.

In those arrested is accordingly to three men and a woman 24-28 years of age. A 51-year-old Dutch left the officials after his interrogation again. The gang is said to have operated on a large scale drug trafficking on the Internet. According to investigators, the suspects had specialized in the drug trade in the encrypted and inaccessible darknet network. Therefore paid customers with an Internet currency by mail them the drugs were then sent.

Overall, the investigators searched 12 properties in the states of Baden-Württemberg, Berlin, Brandenburg and Bavaria - and found more than 18 kg amphetamine as well as cash, accounts, cars and real estate with a total value of around 700,000 euros safely."


Probably its AH i'm 99% sure of it :)
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Post by: danb15 on July 10, 2013, 02:06 pm
I got a package last week for these fellas :)

Think it took 7days to Ireland packaging was great printed lables and vac sealed then put in MBB inside the package also had very good stealth these guys do a great job honestly if customs opened it im pretty certain you will be ok.

Communication i was talking to PR when i was getting my package and always replied super fast but i have been talking to Dutchaanbod and i can see why he was hired another great fella :)

Product stinky shit haha was 9am when i got my package as soon as i smelt that shit i could not resist a line haha this shit is super clean super smooth and super tasty i will surely be back for more soon i just hope they don't raise the price as i think its priced well as is..

Thanks for a great transaction fellas look no further for quality
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Post by: Sero Tonin on July 10, 2013, 07:44 pm
any chance of AH or PF sinking this entire ship?

be careful Dutch :)

always wanted to know the relationship between you 3...
and the girl was who?
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Post by: zookaa on July 11, 2013, 07:43 am
Seriously DB, although I never did business with you, I even never talked to you, but this whole AH and PF thing is dramatic, and you seem to be more or less involved in this thing.

So you REALLY should speak up man, what do you know? Are AHs and PFs customers in danger? Who are you anyways? Are you the real DB or just a honeypot??
And people still happily order at your store?

WTF people are you stupid or what? I wouldn't order anything here until there are more information about the whole bust. This is a BIG TIME bust and people don't seem to realize this...
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Post by: Minchia on July 11, 2013, 08:30 am
always wanted to know the relationship between you 3...
and the girl was who?

do you really think giving out this info on this forum should be done? you cant be this stupid...

Seriously DB, although I never did business with you, I even never talked to you, but this whole AH and PF thing is dramatic, and you seem to be more or less involved in this thing.

So you REALLY should speak up man, what do you know? Are AHs and PFs customers in danger? Who are you anyways? Are you the real DB or just a honeypot??

he did post on his DB - SR account that he is PF.
i do not think he will tell you who he is and he wont even tell you everything he knows.. even if he is a honeypot he wont tell you that he is one.

please just use some common sense guys.. this forum will be read also by LE, giving out all this info would be rather stupid.

but on the other hand it would be helpfull to know if some packages have gone missing or intercepted and how dangerous it is for recent PF costumers.
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Post by: zookaa on July 11, 2013, 08:40 am
My questions were obviously for the reader, so they start to think themself... I'm not expecting much info from DB, but there seem to be some insiders sending here and there private messages, and it would be at least good to know if recent customers are in danger....
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Post by: schuldig on July 11, 2013, 10:46 am
and the girl was who?

The girl was just PFs girlfriend, nothing to stress about.
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Post by: Minchia on July 11, 2013, 11:52 am
i got this info from a reliable source (one of the top vendors) that wishes to stay anonymous:

- it is infact AH and PF they catched in germany.

-people that ordered previous from PF or AH are supposedly safe cause LE did not catch their 'safe house', they burned already evidence wich was there..

-all the pc systems they intercepted are fully encrypted

- DA bought actually PF's account a while ago

-PF's work was only to answer messages

- the guy selling now under DA/PF isnt the original DA that guy stopped selling a year ago
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Post by: flwrchlds9 on July 11, 2013, 12:00 pm
i got this info from a reliable source (one of the top vendors) that wishes to stay anonymous:

- it is infact AH and PF they catched in germany.

-people that ordered previous from PF or AH are supposedly safe cause LE did not catch their 'safe house', they burned already evidence wich was there..

-all the pc systems they intercepted are fully encrypted

- DA bought actually PF's account a while ago

-PF's work was only to answer messages while DA was the guy for the supply

AH they catch, YES.
PF's work was only answer messages - Maybe. PF had some RL problem about month ago then he change role.

Rest don't know if true or no.   

Best regards to you, AH!
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Post by: That 1 Dude on July 11, 2013, 11:33 pm
subbing for that BA.. Hope all is well.
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Post by: firsttimebuyer on July 14, 2013, 07:02 am
Speed from Pfandleiher was tested in austria at the paradise festival.

results are:
Amphetamin 266mg/G
Coffein 497mg/G
Meth 162mg/G

I think this is really fucked up, coz there shouldnt be any METH in it.

Shiiit, maaan! :-//
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Post by: Dutchaanbod on July 14, 2013, 08:17 am
Speed from Pfandleiher was tested in austria at the paradise festival.

results are:
Amphetamin 266mg/G
Coffein 497mg/G
Meth 162mg/G

I think this is really fucked up, coz there shouldnt be any METH in it.

Shiiit, maaan! :-//

Lol probably a seller that don like our price  8)

First post 100 times in a scam topic en his 101 post is this :)

we never will do meth in it then it cost us more then we get for it now meth is 13x more expensive here then Sp so this is total bullshit :)

BTW where is you bad feedback don see it ?

Greats
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Post by: uhrwerk on July 14, 2013, 10:00 am
hi,
not that it is any of my concern- I am just researching the whole AH/PF/XXX topic so I came around here.
@firsttimebuyer; you are telling me that somebody is able to test drugs on a festival in depth? like with a HPLC or GC/MS ? very nice of the guys doing so. What organisation is this and where are they next?
nevertheless; the term "speed" did in fact originate from its description of methamphetamine. what is now used to describe the various "pasty" mixtures containing amphetamine sulfate in alcohol was once the primary term for describing what now is crystal. Also, it is not uncommon for the cooks to order some NMF along the formamide that is used to perform a leuckard-wallach synthesis. it is very uncommon for to have this large of a percentage, usually the rate is 90/10 amph/meth. (ie. formamide/n-methyl-formamide) somewhere along the line might have been someone who cut the product with a secondary amine that reacts the way meth does. (I am not going to give specifics here but this has been done to cut coke, too, to react to preliminary tests better than it actually IS)
just my 2 satoshis
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Post by: Sappaloth on July 14, 2013, 10:17 am

Lol probably a seller that don like our price  8)

First post 100 times in a scam topic en his 101 post is this :)

we never will do meth in it then it cost us more then we get for it now meth is 13x more expensive here then Sp so this is total bullshit :)



go east some km from where PF got busted, and you´ll get a gram of meth for what a gram of good(!) speed costs on sr
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Post by: zookaa on July 14, 2013, 10:23 am

Lol probably a seller that don like our price  8)

First post 100 times in a scam topic en his 101 post is this :)

we never will do meth in it then it cost us more then we get for it now meth is 13x more expensive here then Sp so this is total bullshit :)


go east some km from where PF got busted, and you´ll get a gram of meth for what a gram of good(!) speed costs on sr


Yeah, no wonder they got so many chemicals so cheap to resell in bulk on SR... CZ has some big kitchens I'm sure
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Post by: firsttimebuyer on July 14, 2013, 04:19 pm
hi,
not that it is any of my concern- I am just researching the whole AH/PF/XXX topic so I came around here.
@firsttimebuyer; you are telling me that somebody is able to test drugs on a festival in depth? like with a HPLC or GC/MS ? very nice of the guys doing so. What organisation is this and where are they next?
nevertheless; the term "speed" did in fact originate from its description of methamphetamine. what is now used to describe the various "pasty" mixtures containing amphetamine sulfate in alcohol was once the primary term for describing what now is crystal. Also, it is not uncommon for the cooks to order some NMF along the formamide that is used to perform a leuckard-wallach synthesis. it is very uncommon for to have this large of a percentage, usually the rate is 90/10 amph/meth. (ie. formamide/n-methyl-formamide) somewhere along the line might have been someone who cut the product with a secondary amine that reacts the way meth does. (I am not going to give specifics here but this has been done to cut coke, too, to react to preliminary tests better than it actually IS)
just my 2 satoshis

Hello uhrwerk!
In austria you can indeed check your drugs at a mobile lab which is on parties. You can read about the project here: http://www.checkyourdrugs.at/

To you questions:
What Organization?       - Checkyourdrugs
Where are they next?    - http://www.checkyourdrugs.at/drug-checking-termine/
How it is done?               - High Performance Liquid Chromatograph (HPLC)
                                         http://www.checkyourdrugs.at/infos/faq/drug-checking/

Hope this helped... :)
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Post by: firsttimebuyer on July 14, 2013, 07:45 pm
Sorry folks! I posted something wrong! My source (the guy who tested the speed at the festival) told me it was *not* Meth but 4-Methylamphetamin which was in there.

Information to that RC can be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-Methylamphetamine
Fact Sheet about 4-Methylamphetamine: http://ews.druglijn.be/files/Fact%20Sheet%204-methylamfetamine.pdf

And my source will send me photographs of the papers and i will then post them here for proof. I think its still not better than Meth, because there were dead ppl last year because of that substance. :-/
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Post by: mrmdma on July 15, 2013, 10:14 am
Sorry folks! I posted something wrong! My source (the guy who tested the speed at the festival) told me it was *not* Meth but 4-Methylamphetamin which was in there.

Information to that RC can be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-Methylamphetamine
Fact Sheet about 4-Methylamphetamine: http://ews.druglijn.be/files/Fact%20Sheet%204-methylamfetamine.pdf

And my source will send me photographs of the papers and i will then post them here for proof. I think its still not better than Meth, because there were dead ppl last year because of that substance. :-/

All links are clearnet!

Actually 4-methylamphetamine is a rather common cut in speed (http://eztest.com/4-methyl-amphetamine/).
The marquis reagent will turn to red if there is any 4-MA present.

However I'm not a customer of these guys so I have no experience on their product and therefore I will not speculate. Stay safe and always test your drugs.

Gas chromatography is one of the single most reliable ways to test a substance as it will tell you the true percentages of chemicals present I believe.
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Post by: checkthis on July 15, 2013, 02:19 pm
Unfortunately I did an domestic order last week on tuesday for Coke. Nothing arrived yet. Hopefully it's only caused by the German post. Gonna keep you updated..
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Post by: firsttimebuyer on July 17, 2013, 08:46 pm
For everyone who was doubting what i have posted about the ingedients of the Speed of PFANDLEIHER RELOADED (especially dutchaanbod), goto:

http://dbneu.checkyourdrugs.at/

getestet am: 12.7.2013
Probennummer: 64

there you can find the results i have posted. For the Rest (as i already said:)

DON´T BUY IT! 4-MA can REALLY DO HARM TO YOU! :-(

Really bad that he´s selling this stuff...
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Post by: killerglass on July 18, 2013, 01:41 am
Hey, y'all!!  here's a story I submitted for the SR creative writing contest about my experience with PF''s MDMA.  It was wonderful.....:)

my story...(killerglass)..http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=166774.0

Please vote for me here!!!

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=184458.0

Thank you so much...it really was a life changing experience,.....
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Post by: cannamanuk on July 18, 2013, 10:36 am
i got a bag and i gonna test it with ez now
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Post by: checkthis on July 18, 2013, 01:31 pm
Did an domestic order on tuesday last week. Nothing came up yet. *waiting* Don't order until people have recieved their stuff..
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Post by: klm2233 on July 18, 2013, 01:35 pm
i got a bag and i gonna test it with ez now

4ma shows red on the marquis
same as the real amphetamin, which also turns marquis red.

does other ez tests show 4ma in particular?

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Post by: cannamanuk on July 20, 2013, 10:17 am
I got the EZ Complete . Simmons is siad to differ between amphetamines. Ive read... I aint ad time to run a full test.

I do have the price question... Why so much used in the cut as it isnt that cheap to get to use as a cut
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Post by: checkthis on July 22, 2013, 01:40 pm
after 2 weeks my domestic order for coke has arrived. Nice stuff, nice smell...as it should be. Seems like it's been cut... anyway..I'm happy.
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Post by: RmanOnaHill on July 28, 2013, 03:07 pm
Ordered coke a couple of times off these guys over the last month,first package only took 4 days within EU second took just over a week.Stealth  10/10
Com's  10/10
Quality   8/10
Overall experience   10/10
Will definitely be back for more!
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Post by: khorne flake on July 28, 2013, 06:10 pm
sub'd I want molly
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Post by: cannamanuk on July 29, 2013, 09:46 am
Main problem I found with the speed was the loss.

Ive seen a new seller giving a % over to counter the loss as. As soon as you open it their is major amounts of liquid waiting to evaperate. (dont do it nr flames lol)

your 100g is 80 when you open it then within 20-30min its down too around 60-70g.


otherwise its good shit
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Post by: downlight on August 17, 2013, 06:00 am
Can someone confirm they have had success with this vendor since they
re-opened ?

Thanks.
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Post by: h1n1z2 on September 07, 2013, 06:55 am
Can someone confirm they have had success with this vendor since they
re-opened ?

Thanks.

I did but that was before Pfandleiher and Afterhour got busted. Someone else must run the account now.
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Post by: thegoodgirl82 on September 07, 2013, 08:16 am
I ad some good cok deal pfand in a rvus accunt ht by a sscammer which bad sats 50+

One bu spet s ;rsu 3k mydef

Main question re qulity of coke.

Is it free of sctive cuts and hig quality,

Orered somwBungee54 so a last got ne I tust!

Hope Pfan 2 i the same as original phan who was fab.1
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Post by: bigbabbablue on September 07, 2013, 10:18 am
I ad some good cok deal pfand in a rvus accunt ht by a sscammer which bad sats 50+

One bu spet s ;rsu 3k mydef

Main question re qulity of coke.

Is it free of sctive cuts and hig quality,

Orered somwBungee54 so a last got ne I tust!

Hope Pfan 2 i the same as original phan who was fab.1

What the hell are you trying to tell us??
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Post by: xxconnectxx on September 09, 2013, 09:35 am
+1 bigbabbablue
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Post by: mrmdma on September 09, 2013, 07:57 pm
I ad some good cok deal pfand in a rvus accunt ht by a sscammer which bad sats 50+

One bu spet s ;rsu 3k mydef

Main question re qulity of coke.

Is it free of sctive cuts and hig quality,

Orered somwBungee54 so a last got ne I tust!

Hope Pfan 2 i the same as original phan who was fab.1

This is why drugs are criminalized in most countries.
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Post by: PotatoConnoisseur on September 09, 2013, 11:20 pm
I ad some good cok deal pfand in a rvus accunt ht by a sscammer which bad sats 50+

One bu spet s ;rsu 3k mydef

Main question re qulity of coke.

Is it free of sctive cuts and hig quality,

Orered somwBungee54 so a last got ne I tust!

Hope Pfan 2 i the same as original phan who was fab.1

This is why drugs are criminalized in most countries.

Don't worry I've got this, I speak Potato.

The good girl is saying that (s)he ordered some coke from PF when he operated under a different account. (S)he speculates that PF made a new account because of a scammer who tested poorly on the SAT's, a college placement exam. When the order was placed from the original PF account thegoodgirl enjoyed the coke, she qualifies her opinion by adding in that (s)he has ordered from Bungee54 who is well known for having good coke. It's important to note that the last sentence suggests that thegoodgirl has never ordered from the PF Reloaded account, simply hopes that it is the same person running it as the original PF account.
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Post by: bigbabbablue on September 10, 2013, 08:28 am
Thanks for translating ;) +1 to you
Also +1 to you mrmdma, made me laugh!
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Post by: Acen on September 20, 2013, 11:00 pm
I ad some good cok deal pfand in a rvus accunt ht by a sscammer which bad sats 50+

One bu spet s ;rsu 3k mydef

Main question re qulity of coke.

Is it free of sctive cuts and hig quality,

Orered somwBungee54 so a last got ne I tust!

Hope Pfan 2 i the same as original phan who was fab.1

This is why drugs are criminalized in most countries.

+1 for that comment.... SOOOO delicious...  ;)
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Post by: anonymouse23 on September 28, 2013, 10:11 am
Pfandleiher please review your speed packaging.
I wont go into details but im loosing ~10% because of that(loss of drying not included).
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Post by: mrmdma on September 28, 2013, 04:42 pm
Pfandleiher please review your speed packaging.
I wont go into details but im loosing ~10% because of that(loss of drying not included).

Is the speed shipped inside a hidden compartment inside an old volkswagen engine block? O.o