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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: costello143 on June 18, 2012, 01:31 pm
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OK guys,
the pfandleiher review thread its to difficult to repear on the coke...
So i start this topic to only discuss about COCAINE of pfandleiher !
I say to him the coke business is the most difficul on SR , the seller love to have 100% stats !!! i say to him with business coke your stats can quickly go down !!
100% stats with cocaine is not the same thing as 100% stats with MDMA.
He say to me he has now in his hand coke "shiny as crystal"
look his PM :
" Forget it, this is the fucking best coke ive ever seen, its shiny as crystals, the ship came from ecuador 4 days ago. those are untouched blocks. "
So what ? i've ordered 1g.
I give a review here when received.
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I'll be waiting for the replies in here. Very stoked about quality coming out of somewhere without a Netherlands shipping label
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I'll be waiting for the replies in here. Very stoked about quality coming out of somewhere without a Netherlands shipping label
Dont worry, it comes from NL
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Hmm... Coke is definitely on my to do list, but I'd prolly' want to do it only once and then leave it. I once heard that good UNCUT coke can give you a high that lasts long, not the typical street coke that give you a 15 min high... I'm waiting for the reports eagerly, if it's da Scheiße! I will prolly order 1g. Would be cool if you could have a listing for 0,5g too, but I definitely understand that you are one of the busiest vendors on SR right now :)
It's great to see that you stand behind your product 110% :) I can recall reading that you yourself don't like coke so much PF, but I have to ask have you sampled it yourself at all?
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I sampled his last batch, and it really was the bomb, i didnt try the new one since i had to drive 800km but i saw it, had it in my hands, and im sure this one is even better
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I'll be waiting for the replies in here. Very stoked about quality coming out of somewhere without a Netherlands shipping label
Dont worry, it comes from NL
Yea, I put that much together from your sellers page -- Just to clarify tho, it will be coming into the US from a Germany shipping address? It seems customs has taken a notice to anything from NL.
And if you haven't sampled it yet, go blow a fat rail and tell us how it is lol
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cant afford it to be high on anything, gotta stay clear 23/7 and i also need to drive a lot ;)
however, yes its posted from downtown Germany :D
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I think I'll put an order in at the end of the month.. Be more than happy to review it! :)
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This sounds very good. dinosaurs ruled the earth the last time I had anything above 30% I reckon.
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Pfand;
you ship to the USA? does the return address say NL on it? NL to USA is not always successful so is there a refund if I never get it?
Good luck!
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I predict Pfandleiher will become the #1 coke vendor on SR within 4 to 6 weeks.
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I hope PF can take 1 days to make for us some FREE-BASE with ammonia and ether !!!
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I hope PF can take 1 days to make for us some FREE-BASE with ammonia and ether !!!
+1 on that... but not for smoking; for turning back into the best Cocaine HCl you have ever seen :D
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Pfandleiher is a great guy to deal with, and his mdma is great. :)
So I'm definitely interested in the coke as well, mainly in bulk, but the bulk prices are just too high for me.
I can understand the lower quantities being more expensive, but I think anything over half oz to an oz should be greatly discounted from where it's currently at.
I understand it's probably very good quality and hasn't been cut by the street level dealers yet, I know street level dealers like to stomp on it one after another, and some also re-rock their cut stuff to make it look better.
But anyway I've been around the cocaine game a long time and use to buy oz's of raw right off the kilo brick for between $1200-$1500 for 1 oz, Always top quality, USA sourced too.
It was always rock fish-scale, lot's of shiny crystals all through out it.. only need the tiniest bit to do you right, mind you this was a couple years ago, I no longer live in that are so it's out of the question now.
So now I'm interested in Pf's product because it sounds all too similar to what I use to get.. but even if I were to buy 100grams, that's around $7,375 which boils down to around $73 a gram (plus the btc exchange fee's), so there would be very very little profit involved for me. You'd have to cut the shit out of it to make a profit, and I'm not about cutting my product just to make money.
I'd really love to buy a bunch though, I hope the price goes down so we can make some deals. I'm a serious buyer.
The prices may be out of your hands, but I assure you, if you were able to lower some of the bulk prices you would sell more and end up making more money.
Not to mention you'd have a lot more happy customers :)
Pf you're great either way keep doing what you're doing, I just wish prices were a bit better on the white, the mdma prices are great.
Thanks!
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Pfandleiher is a great guy to deal with, and his mdma is great. :)
So I'm definitely interested in the coke as well, mainly in bulk, but the bulk prices are just too high for me.
I can understand the lower quantities being more expensive, but I think anything over half oz to an oz should be greatly discounted from where it's currently at.
I understand it's probably very good quality and hasn't been cut by the street level dealers yet, I know street level dealers like to stomp on it one after another, and some also re-rock their cut stuff to make it look better.
But anyway I've been around the cocaine game a long time and use to buy oz's of raw right off the kilo brick for between $1200-$1500 for 1 oz, Always top quality, USA sourced too.
It was always rock fish-scale, lot's of shiny crystals all through out it.. only need the tiniest bit to do you right, mind you this was a couple years ago, I no longer live in that are so it's out of the question now.
So now I'm interested in Pf's product because it sounds all too similar to what I use to get.. but even if I were to buy 100grams, that's around $7,375 which boils down to around $73 a gram (plus the btc exchange fee's), so there would be very very little profit involved for me. You'd have to cut the shit out of it to make a profit, and I'm not about cutting my product just to make money.
I'd really love to buy a bunch though, I hope the price goes down so we can make some deals. I'm a serious buyer.
The prices may be out of your hands, but I assure you, if you were able to lower some of the bulk prices you would sell more and end up making more money.
Not to mention you'd have a lot more happy customers :)
Pf you're great either way keep doing what you're doing, I just wish prices were a bit better on the white, the mdma prices are great.
Thanks!
If you from the US, its usually a waste of money to order cocaine from Europe because cocaine is much cheaper and usually even has better quality in the US.
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Quick question guys... Dutchaanbod says he will hand over the reins to Pfandleiher on the 17th, but his listings are still up so we have two listings with different prices but supposedly the same product according to Dutch. So what gives? I'm just a little worried as there were quite a few bad reports of the latest batch from Dutch.
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Pfandleiher is a great guy to deal with, and his mdma is great. :)
So I'm definitely interested in the coke as well, mainly in bulk, but the bulk prices are just too high for me.
I can understand the lower quantities being more expensive, but I think anything over half oz to an oz should be greatly discounted from where it's currently at.
I understand it's probably very good quality and hasn't been cut by the street level dealers yet, I know street level dealers like to stomp on it one after another, and some also re-rock their cut stuff to make it look better.
But anyway I've been around the cocaine game a long time and use to buy oz's of raw right off the kilo brick for between $1200-$1500 for 1 oz, Always top quality, USA sourced too.
It was always rock fish-scale, lot's of shiny crystals all through out it.. only need the tiniest bit to do you right, mind you this was a couple years ago, I no longer live in that are so it's out of the question now.
So now I'm interested in Pf's product because it sounds all too similar to what I use to get.. but even if I were to buy 100grams, that's around $7,375 which boils down to around $73 a gram (plus the btc exchange fee's), so there would be very very little profit involved for me. You'd have to cut the shit out of it to make a profit, and I'm not about cutting my product just to make money.
I'd really love to buy a bunch though, I hope the price goes down so we can make some deals. I'm a serious buyer.
The prices may be out of your hands, but I assure you, if you were able to lower some of the bulk prices you would sell more and end up making more money.
Not to mention you'd have a lot more happy customers :)
Pf you're great either way keep doing what you're doing, I just wish prices were a bit better on the white, the mdma prices are great.
Thanks!
I think i will edit those prices AFTER i processed all the 400 orders :D
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I'd love to see some photo's/reviews - I need convincing to spend my coins with you rather than my 70% local guy! I've around a week or so before I've enough coins to buy some... You up to the job PF? ;)
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i want to see photo of the new batch of coke from PF...i asked him to this but he hasnt replied on this question ... :o
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I sent him a pm too, and not had any reply. I know the guy has a good rep - and is busy - but I may hold off for a bit now as I'm still a bit confused about my above query...
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Quick question guys... Dutchaanbod says he will hand over the reins to Pfandleiher on the 17th, but his listings are still up so we have two listings with different prices but supposedly the same product according to Dutch. So what gives? I'm just a little worried as there were quite a few bad reports of the latest batch from Dutch.
From what Dutchaanbod's member page says on the 17th He will no longer be selling to anyone outside of the Netherlands.
So if you're in the NL you can keep placing your orders with Dutchaanbod.
But anyone outside of the NL should place orders with Pfandleiher from now on.
PF said the new batch was better and looked great, I assume they both probably have the same current batch.
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The question is: Is it good enough to warrant $115 Gs?
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I think i will edit those prices AFTER i processed all the 400 orders :D
Sounds great looking forward to this!
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hi to all they have purchased pflandheir coke,
that is 2 days the status is marked as "processing" have anyone experimented this ?
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hi to all they have purchased pflandheir coke,
that is 2 days the status is marked as "processing" have anyone experimented this ?
As Pflandheir has stated below, he is processing 400 orders! That's a shitload to get through. Be patient, your order will arrive sooner rather than later. :)
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holy shit, 400 orders? I just hope PF doesn't use all the blow trying to get through those orders ;)
i liked dutchabonds stuff so I'm looking forward to this. keep on truckin' PF
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I realy njoy the Dutchabonds yelowish small rocks, tha he have before ;). But I dont know the quality of this batch, witch Pfandleiher will sell.
I like Pfandleiher's mdma, realy ;), but now this C that he sell, I need to see some reviews.
And BDW the prices for bulk are TOO HIGH!! Too expensive, for me.
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I've seen mixed reviews on dutchanbod's coke. In the main coke review thread people complained about it. Is it decent or not?
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i liked it ALOT!! ;-)
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PF said the new batch was better and looked great, I assume they both probably have the same current batch.
Yeah, and that's what makes me wary. The latest reports on Dutchaanbod's C is not so good. If it's the same stuff, then I will have to reluctantly hold off.
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Bumping in to vouch for the Coke !
Ordered yesterday at midday. Came home 1 hour ago and guess what was waiting for me ? It was a domestic order but even with that in mind i was like WHAT THE FUCK ! :o
Took a small bump and Yeehaw ! This is definitely good stuff !
I took a picture and would like to share it with you but the onion image uploader isn`t working for me ?! (http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/)
If someone would give me a proper adress i`d upload it so you can see those shiny rocks for yourself !
Greetings !
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It`s working now.
See for yourself !
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=92a0a0f92bfffda4c63cc11ecca10e09.png
Greetings !
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It`s working now.
See for yourself !
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=92a0a0f92bfffda4c63cc11ecca10e09.png
Greetings !
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Woah. That looks phenomenal! I can't wait to get my hands on some :D
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I told you so ! :D
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I told you so ! :D
Perhaps i should cancel my big mandy order and get C instead?
Can you do bulk C at the moment PL?
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It`s working now.
See for yourself !
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=92a0a0f92bfffda4c63cc11ecca10e09.png
Greetings !
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Woah. That looks phenomenal! I can't wait to get my hands on some :D
Looks unbelievably good! Looking forward to ordering from SR's greatest vendor. 8)
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i dont even know if i want to sell bulk on this, this batch is limited, only like 30Kgs here... so i rather sell small XD XD XD
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i dont even know if i want to sell bulk on this, this batch is limited, only like 30Kgs here... so i rather sell small XD XD XD
25g or 1oz won't go astray? :)
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i dont even know if i want to sell bulk on this, this batch is limited, only like 30Kgs here... so i rather sell small XD XD XD
you have 30kg of this shiny coke batch in your hands ?
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please put bulk up on this
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wow looks the goods!! hopefully PF will bring down the prices SLIGHTLY and we can enjoy!
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Please put up a 25g or 28g or 50g listing of this - want to order straight away.
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i dont even know if i want to sell bulk on this, this batch is limited, only like 30Kgs here... so i rather sell small XD XD XD
Are you George Jung? "15 kilos? I PISS 15 kilos!"
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thats the amount that would be available ;D
after i cleared MDMA i will do something about the pricing and stuff
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After much arsing around funding my account with bitcoin because I was 0.03 short :'( and was to ashamed to ask for a loan I have now placed an order with he whos name I cannot pronounce :P
Will take a high res macro shot with my semi-pro camera and post a full snort-report when my precious turns up. I wont be sharing any with nasty Hobbitses.
Looking forward to it ;D
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After much arsing around funding my account with bitcoin because I was 0.03 short :'( and was to ashamed to ask for a loan I have now placed an order with he whos name I cannot pronounce :P
Will take a high res macro shot with my semi-pro camera and post a full snort-report when my precious turns up. I wont be sharing any with nasty Hobbitses.
Looking forward to it ;D
/salute !
I just ordered 1g to the US just now. I play to do a little type up... but I gotta give some to my hobbit-slice Samwise for I cannot go it alone.
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I just ordered 1g to the US just now.
This surely doesn't make sense. Coke is the US is better, and cheaper, than EU coke. Plus you're putting it through customs?
Leave PF's coke for us in the EU! :)
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fuck, I wish I knew he was shipping the coke. ended up going with cloudsurfer who sent shit compared to the samples he sent out
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fuck, I wish I knew he was shipping the coke. ended up going with cloudsurfer who sent shit compared to the samples he sent out
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Unlucky dude, this is why I can never take samples seriously. Its a shit load of money to fork out for disappointment. If I want a big let down I can go to my IRL dealer and pay £30 a gram. I stopped using coke regularly about 2 years ago because you shouldn't be able to snort a 1g in 4 lines. ::) I can still get ok shit here for £60-£80 a gram but its hard to come by. People here want it cheap, even if its fake/weak as fuck. Last week i was in a bar and a girl offered me some 'coke' it was actually crushed up ritalin (i knew because ive crushed and snorted ritalin before several times).
I will definitely post a detailed, honest review and will welcome any questions about my experience, I appreciate how hard it is to get decent value for money both on the SR and IRL.
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I just ordered 1g to the US just now.
This surely doesn't make sense. Coke is the US is better, and cheaper, than EU coke. Plus you're putting it through customs?
Leave PF's coke for us in the EU! :)
How do you know this?
The yay I get here in the US goes for roughly 120-180 for an 1/8 so you're right about the pricing.
However, I know for a fact that most of the time its chopped to shit. I'm hardly getting what is said to be "premium" coke over here.
That doesn't mean I haven't bought a g over here for 40 bucks and have it melt my face off (In a good way :D)
But still...Do you truly believe it is a waste to order coke at $110+ per gram knowing that you're going to receive premium?
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I just ordered 1g to the US just now.
This surely doesn't make sense. Coke is the US is better, and cheaper, than EU coke. Plus you're putting it through customs?
Leave PF's coke for us in the EU! :)
How do you know this?
The yay I get here in the US goes for roughly 120-180 for an 1/8 so you're right about the pricing.
However, I know for a fact that most of the time its chopped to shit. I'm hardly getting what is said to be "premium" coke over here.
That doesn't mean I haven't bought a g over here for 40 bucks and have it melt my face off (In a good way :D)
But still...Do you truly believe it is a waste to order coke at $110+ per gram knowing that you're going to receive premium?
I don't 'know' anything, I'm only talking from my life experiences of buying it and doing it on both continents. That and thinking logically about the geography of the situation and the journey coke goes on. There may be difference in whats 'premium' in the EU and what's premium in the US.
I don't claim to know everything though, order it, I would be interested to hear your review.
I really want him to put up a bulk option, sent him a message but he hasn't read it yet, presumably because his messages are all backed up with all the MDMA customers asking him annoying repeated questions. Ah well. Might order a G today as a sample. Hhhmm
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I just ordered 1g to the US just now.
This surely doesn't make sense. Coke is the US is better, and cheaper, than EU coke. Plus you're putting it through customs?
Leave PF's coke for us in the EU! :)
How do you know this?
The yay I get here in the US goes for roughly 120-180 for an 1/8 so you're right about the pricing.
However, I know for a fact that most of the time its chopped to shit. I'm hardly getting what is said to be "premium" coke over here.
That doesn't mean I haven't bought a g over here for 40 bucks and have it melt my face off (In a good way :D)
But still...Do you truly believe it is a waste to order coke at $110+ per gram knowing that you're going to receive premium?
I don't 'know' anything, I'm only talking from my life experiences of buying it and doing it on both continents. That and thinking logically about the geography of the situation and the journey coke goes on. There may be difference in whats 'premium' in the EU and what's premium in the US.
I don't claim to know everything though, order it, I would be interested to hear your review.
I really want him to put up a bulk option, sent him a message but he hasn't read it yet, presumably because his messages are all backed up with all the MDMA customers asking him annoying repeated questions. Ah well. Might order a G today as a sample. Hhhmm
Yeah I will probably consider ordering a g or 1/8 if the price is right. Still waiting on his molly. Hopefully we will see some updates very soon in the prices.
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can anyone give a decent review of pf's coke? still haven't seen one yet! cheers
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I just ordered 5g, will update when received.
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i received my gramm...
I provide a full review for the community ASAP.
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i received my gramm...
I provide a full review for the community ASAP.
Excellent :D
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NEED REVIEWS!
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Hey pf, what are the chances of the price of your coke coming down?
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Hey pf, what are the chances of the price of your coke coming down?
He said he would review the prices after all the MDMA orders are shipped.
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Haven't tried coke before, but if I do buy it, Id rather get it from PF than some other seller I don't know. In the US, but to me its worth using a trusted seller. Just gonna wait on some reviews to come in first so I can know what to expect. Hopefully he will put up a .5g listing after he clears up the mdma backlog though! *hint hint* :)
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What a thrill!
Received my 1g an hour ago. Ordered on 20, in Transit on 21st. Received it today. The Postman refused to deposit the package in my "Packstation" and i had to get it from the Post office. DAMN! If i havent had the problem with the "Packstation", i even had my C on 22nd. It took me quite some guts to enter the Post office. But all went fine and i did not get busted ;)
What can i say? I am not very experienced in C! But this is by far the best C i ever had!
I took a line 10min ago. My nose and my front teeth are numb, and i feel really good. No taste of speed.
It has a very light yellow colour and you can see a kind of crystalline surface. And it looks kind of wet a bit, and has the consistence of a hard paste. Thats good?! Isn't it? The only catch is, that it seems to be bit underweight. my scale shows only 0,9g. but i dont trust this scale anyway. The Packaging was very good.
To sum it up: I have nothing to complain about. So Pfandleiher gets a 5/5 from me. And i am def going to buy again from him.
I hope this review helped you guys a bit.
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@Gorgorotz
hi what is the level of numbing for you ? light, medium, hard ? to 1 - 10 how much ?
For the effect can you explain more precise please ? Euphoria ? Relaxing ?
Do you want to take another line 10 min after or 45 min after ?
What is the odor ? kerozen ? benzin ? other ?
thank you...i can't test it yet, so i love precise review ... ;D
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still haven't heard many reviews on PF's coke... would like to see some decent review.
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@Gorgorotz
hi what is the level of numbing for you ? light, medium, hard ? to 1 - 10 how much ?
For the effect can you explain more precise please ? Euphoria ? Relaxing ?
Do you want to take another line 10 min after or 45 min after ?
What is the odor ? kerozen ? benzin ? other ?
thank you...i can't test it yet, so i love precise review ... ;D
Someone should post a review lol
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Ok then. Here's an update.
Numbing:
If a visit at the dentist is a 10, this is a 5. But it's by far more more numbing than what i can buy on the street here. If applied directly to the tip of the tounge it gets a 6.5 after about 10 seconds.
EDIT:
If swallowed when it starts draining down your throat, it makes your throat really numb. Making it hard to swallow or to speak.
Effect:
Def no euphoria. More like a pleasant kick, with a little bit of raised pulse. Awake and well being.
I was able to eat afterwards, i even became hungry. But i had problems to sleep well this night. Took me a while to sleep, and i was up early. But i still felt physically good. This was not the kind of sleepless night you have on speed.
The wish to take another one:
I am not very disciplined when taking Drugs, and always tend to binge when they are available. But in this case it's too expensive to binge ;)
Anyway. The numbing is gone after about 30-40 min. Thats when i start to think of another line.
The smell: Like led free gasoline (Benzin)
precise enough?
Cheers.
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btw i dont really find it numbing :) id say 1-10 = 2
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(I posted this in the other review thread as well, didn't know you had a separate one for your cocaine).
Just wondering if anyone can give a little info, I ordered some cocaine from P. Does he send out the tracking #? And can anyone at the address I shipped to sign for the package? I'll be working, and I live with 3 room mates. Thanks in advance.
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I hope PF can take 1 days to make for us some FREE-BASE with ammonia and ether !!!
+1 on that... but not for smoking; for turning back into the best Cocaine HCl you have ever seen :D
in the past PF send me 0.5g of freebase .. waouaaww , it was so smooth on the freebase pipe.... hummmm
ammonia and ether process.
Freebase perfect quality is the thing the more difficult to found in SR ... seller take coke and cook with ammonia and its finish ...
that is a false process ! 98% of time you have 2 or 3 oily drop in the spoon , and only one is real coke frebase :)
most of dealer here only freebase the cutted coke and at the final you have freebase of -caines family, amphetamine base and a little coke base ;D
After good freebase the thing most hard to find is real good coke, relaxing coke ...
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Hey Pfand, I ordered yesterday and then got worried from the mdma thread and messaged you to cancel it. It seems like the snow is still good though, so I suppose keep the order if you will be able to ship it out soon.
I had a good experience with the 4 day shipping of your MD in the past.
Thanks again!
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who is the user who left a fedback saying the PF coke have a smell of "mustard" ?
its crazy, when i opened and test the odor, there was this "mustard" smelling too .
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Im gonna place an order was put off coz knew he had mad back log but as orders coming through will give it a go. Mustard smell? Sounds weird am interested if other people noticed same as u guys
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btw i dont really find it numbing :) id say 1-10 = 2
yeah, very little numbing. I'm not so good with reviews, but I'll say that as soon as some bitcoins lands on my account I am ordering again.
It was a little underweight, but I had worse :-)
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who is the user who left a fedback saying the PF coke have a smell of "mustard" ?
its crazy, when i opened and test the odor, there was this "mustard" smelling too .
That would account for the slight yellow colour if it was English mustard lol! It would sting like a bitch though ;)
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Here's review of the Pfand's coke:
Shipping/package: 5/5 - Ordered 1+ gram, Got to the West Coast in 3-4 days! Amazing considering this was in the middle of the Molly debacle (running around to this and that). Letter was clean, professional looking smooth and not bulky. Felt like thick pages of a letter.
Communication: 5/5 - Always great, nothing out of the ordinary on this order.
SMELL: I thought I knew the coke 'smell' from the slight odor it has, but also from the 'taste' when snorting it, let alone the actual tongue. I cut open the bag and now I know what coke smells like: This shit hit me from almost a foot away - I was shocked. This stuff reeks more than pot, sharp COKE-IN-YOUR-FACE. I never smelled anything like it, the closest comparison I made was a Black Sharpie-like smell, but of coke. (I mean all of this in a very, VERY positive sense)
Appearance: A huge slab of thick, hard, crunchy coke - flat and thin from the vacuum seal/smash to fit envelope. And it wasn't fragile, these would snap, LOUDLY (When I crushed it under a bill a small piece flew out. I found it so no worries), and the texture wasn't powder-y, I think this is that 'oilyness' I've seen others talk about with coke. Color was very, Very white, bright, homogenous. Tasted good, numbing effect on tongue was a slow build to a medium, soft numbness.
Quality - Amazing. Two 75mg lines, smooth but sharp taste. Relaxation starts within 2-5 minutes, euphoria builds 4-15 mins to reach peak, then stayed at a plateau for 15-35 mins (after reaching peak). Numbness from nose to back of throat, but a very nice soft 'drip', in fact my nose has never felt this good after coke, it stayed a nice moist drip - didn't get dry or irratingly awkward or unpleasant/annoying/painful.
No heart racing, face skin seemed a little warm but no signs of flushing. I've never been this relaxed on coke before; in fact I've never gotten such a light, mellow body high from it. It felt really good, and stayed with me until I fell asleep 2 1/2 hours later - and no problems with that (though I felt a little up, but never had as much accompanying relaxation with the up-ness). Slight inner feeling of teeth and jaw (awareness of the roots and muscles) when I went to sleep, and a little in the morning. I've gotten this before but usually it was more in your face or irritating, but this time it was simply a hint of my inner skeletal existence.
I've never had anything like this IRL, and it has definitely raised my bar. I thought the euphoria could've been a little higher, I'd give it a strong medium-high (like a 7.5 or 8 out of 10), but the relaxation was amazing and unprecedented, so I figure I may be associating a euphoria from my old days to cuts and adulterants.
My SR coke rating so far (altered as try more things):
Pfand - 4.5/5 (paid - overall)
SnowWerks - 3.75/5 (paid - value)
BigBill6778 - 3.45/5 (sample - binge/alcohol)
IRL Experiences - 1-3.85 / 5
I'm reserving the 4.5-5 range for the ideals and impressions (given by the world and myself). Its unconfirmed knowledge at this range. Though, pratically, I would say Pfand's coke is 4.5+.
Definitely will order again, Thanks Pfand!
Edit: Also, the feedback saying it smelled like 'mustard' - I assumed he meant mustard gas, as in a chemical weapon or a compliment. Otherwise, you guys are eating some chem-soaked hot dogs or something.
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Here's review of the Pfand's coke:
Shipping/package: 5/5 - Ordered 1+ gram, Got to the West Coast in 3-4 days! Amazing considering this was in the middle of the Molly debacle (running around to this and that). Letter was clean, professional looking smooth and not bulky. Felt like thick pages of a letter.
Communication: 5/5 - Always great, nothing out of the ordinary on this order.
SMELL: I thought I knew the coke 'smell' from the slight odor it has, but also from the 'taste' when snorting it, let alone the actual tongue. I cut open the bag and now I know what coke smells like: This shit hit me from almost a foot away - I was shocked. This stuff reeks more than pot, sharp COKE-IN-YOUR-FACE. I never smelled anything like it, the closest comparison I made was a Black Sharpie-like smell, but of coke. (I mean all of this in a very, VERY positive sense)
Appearance: A huge slab of thick, hard, crunchy coke - flat and thin from the vacuum seal/smash to fit envelope. And it wasn't fragile, these would snap, LOUDLY (When I crushed it under a bill a small piece flew out. I found it so no worries), and the texture wasn't powder-y, I think this is that 'oilyness' I've seen others talk about with coke. Color was very, Very white, bright, homogenous. Tasted good, numbing effect on tongue was a slow build to a medium, soft numbness.
Quality - Amazing. Two 75mg lines, smooth but sharp taste. Relaxation starts within 2-5 minutes, euphoria builds 4-15 mins to reach peak, then stayed at a plateau for 15-35 mins (after reaching peak). Numbness from nose to back of throat, but a very nice soft 'drip', in fact my nose has never felt this good after coke, it stayed a nice moist drip - didn't get dry or irratingly awkward or unpleasant/annoying/painful.
No heart racing, face skin seemed a little warm but no signs of flushing. I've never been this relaxed on coke before; in fact I've never gotten such a light, mellow body high from it. It felt really good, and stayed with me until I fell asleep 2 1/2 hours later - and no problems with that (though I felt a little up, but never had as much accompanying relaxation with the up-ness). Slight inner feeling of teeth and jaw (awareness of the roots and muscles) when I went to sleep, and a little in the morning. I've gotten this before but usually it was more in your face or irritating, but this time it was simply a hint of my inner skeletal existence.
I've never had anything like this IRL, and it has definitely raised my bar. I thought the euphoria could've been a little higher, I'd give it a strong medium-high (like a 7.5 or 8 out of 10), but the relaxation was amazing and unprecedented, so I figure I may be associating a euphoria from my old days to cuts and adulterants.
My SR coke rating so far (altered as try more things):
Pfand - 4.5/5 (paid - overall)
SnowWerks - 3.75/5 (paid - value)
BigBill6778 - 3.45/5 (sample - binge/alcohol)
IRL Experiences - 1-3.85 / 5
I'm reserving the 4.5-5 range for the ideals and impressions (given by the world and myself). Its unconfirmed knowledge at this range. Though, pratically, I would say Pfand's coke is 4.5+.
Definitely will order again, Thanks Pfand!
Edit: Also, the feedback saying it smelled like 'mustard' - I assumed he meant mustard gas, as in a chemical weapon or a compliment. Otherwise, you guys are eating some chem-soaked hot dogs or something.
great review! looking forward to receiving my gram now! cheers zruck!
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who is the user who left a fedback saying the PF coke have a smell of "mustard" ?
its crazy, when i opened and test the odor, there was this "mustard" smelling too .
it was me xD
quality still not tested yet but here is another photo of mine
On the left 0,5g chopped coke (it looks like 1g speed or bad coke) and on the right 0,5g "rocks"
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=a780f4c7fb03a51415077a5b24bd828f.jpg
we chopped it for an acetone wash.... 0,5g ---> 0,4g returned
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just received my gram... this stuff smells fantastic!! looks a little underweight though. will update when tested! :D
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just received my gram... this stuff smells fantastic!! looks a little underweight though. will update when tested! :D
When did you order? I ordered mine sunday night and its still processing and I haven't heard anything.
Last time he sent my M quick. I'm in the EU and got it in 4 days.
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just received my gram... this stuff smells fantastic!! looks a little underweight though. will update when tested! :D
When did you order? I ordered mine sunday night and its still processing and I haven't heard anything.
Last time he sent my M quick. I'm in the EU and got it in 4 days.
I ordered Saturday and he shipped monday, took 2 days to the UK, not sure why you haven't got yours..
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woop woop - got my order in for a gram. can't wait :) i'll be back with wide eyes ready to talk all your asses off ;)
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woop woop - got my order in for a gram. can't wait :) i'll be back with wide eyes ready to talk all your asses off ;)
Since when did you need coke to waffle shit mate???
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fair point :P
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fair point :P
Bastard! Wasnt expecting you to agree with me :D
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i'm not a bastard. there you go - i'll disagree with you there :P
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SMELL: I thought I knew the coke 'smell' from the slight odor it has, but also from the 'taste' when snorting it, let alone the actual tongue. I cut open the bag and now I know what coke smells like: This shit hit me from almost a foot away - I was shocked. This stuff reeks more than pot, sharp COKE-IN-YOUR-FACE. I never smelled anything like it, the closest comparison I made was a Black Sharpie-like smell, but of coke. (I mean all of this in a very, VERY positive sense)
Does the coke you received have a small smell "mustard-like" ?
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Wish I could leave karma for that review zruck, Excellent. ;)
I'm still waiting on my 1g from Pf, ordered Saturday (to UK), presuming it shipped Monday so I'll give it until Friday before i start getting nervous, but I know hes had plenty of shit to deal with lately :P
I will base my review on zrucks format, and will post a nice macro shot too. ;)
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ahhhhh shit! all the 2.5g orders have been bagged n i wanted to order in a few hours! no point pm'in him as he got shit loads of msgs!!
hope they are there in bout 12hrs time!!?? I'd be a bit gutted if just able to get 1G increments..
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ahhhhh shit! all the 2.5g orders have been bagged n i wanted to order in a few hours! no point pm'in him as he got shit loads of msgs!!
hope they are there in bout 12hrs time!!?? I'd be a bit gutted if just able to get 1G increments..
PF has 2.5g listings? umm
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fuck!! typical!! no listings at all!!! he has said he has a lot goin on IRL so hope its all good with him....1 more day he says till bk to normal.
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I have chatted with Pfandleiher before and he's a cool guy. Now he is working with Dutchaan who I purchased with before I decided to give him a spin and I ordered 5g. Will post when it arrives.
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yeah he seems like a great vendor to be fair! I was gonna pull trigger on the 2.5g today but guess will have to wait....
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I received 2 different orders from Pfandleiher this week. The First gram I found to be very speedy and itchy, but I started very hard on it. Then when the next order arrived the day after I found it to be utterly good. What I want to say with is that it could very well be that I understated the strength of the coke. I think we dont always understand that there are side effects even of the cleanest coke, it just a matter of how much we intake. In short words, Pfandleihers coke is very strong but im not sure if its clean or not or if the if o got two different batches
I think you have right...
why ? i saw all reviews, there is good reviews and bad ..
the good reviews is for the REAL good coke from PF
the bad reviews are for the coke who smell like "mustard" ... i received this mustard bad coke.
it's very cool you have received 2 different orders with 2 different coke.
You have verified my theory.
So, its really possible PF have 2 kind of coke and its possible he dont know that ...i have send him a message for advertise ...
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just received my gram... this stuff smells fantastic!! looks a little underweight though. will update when tested! :D
When did you order? I ordered mine sunday night and its still processing and I haven't heard anything.
Last time he sent my M quick. I'm in the EU and got it in 4 days.
I ordered Saturday and he shipped monday, took 2 days to the UK, not sure why you haven't got yours..
I'm in UK. I ordered Friday, item was marked as in transit early Saturday afternoon but not here yet. Most likely just slow post or delays because he's so busy. I'm tempted to kidnap tomorrows postman and pilfer through his bags like a fiend. ;D
Gonna Give it until Monday/Tuesday before I contact PF.
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All his listings are down, my bitcoin is making its way to SR.. anyone know whats going on?!
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Just curious but is anyone else waiting for their C orders to go into transit? Ordered mine Tuesday around noon. Not a big deal to me, I understand his situation right now.
Anyone who's in the same boat, definitely feel free to pop in.
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Yep, mine went in tuesday morning, still in processing. . I'm sure it'll be cool, everyone saw that pic of that shiny little rock and jumped straight on the case. Shows you how much everyones clucking for a decent bit of gear. If there's one thing the Road has taught me it's patience :-\
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Yep, mine went in tuesday morning, still in processing. . I'm sure it'll be cool, everyone saw that pic of that shiny little rock and jumped straight on the case. Shows you how much everyones clucking for a decent bit of gear. If there's one thing the Road has taught me it's patience :-\
I didn't lol, what is this shiny little rock that is being spoke of? I just read on Dutchaan's page that I have to order from Pfand now so I did.
I wana see the rock, I feel left out now.
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I'll try to find it. I reposted it in chat shit a few days ago
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http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=92a0a0f92bfffda4c63cc11ecca10e09.png
Check that out. Nice hi res pic. I'm sure it's changed though, I could have swore it was one rock and a few crumbs. Unless Im now dreaming about coke now...
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http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=92a0a0f92bfffda4c63cc11ecca10e09.png
Check that out. Nice hi def pic
Looks like I'm in for a nice treat when this lands.....
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i ordered 25 grams last week and it arrived to Uk in about 4 days,
packaging was good, double vacuum sealed and looked just like any normal mail, it was tracked and had to sign for it, but he asked me before hand was this ok, which i didn't have a problem with.
when i opened the package and then opened the vacuum sealed bag the smell was the strongest i have ever smelt with coke, very very strong smell, almost identical to nail polish remover.
the coke was in large white chunks/flakes and had a sheen pearlesant appearance and was oily but not so much that it was wet, i had to chop some of it up with a razor, but you could use the hot plate method to dry it a slight bit so you could get nice fine lines.
snorted about 100 mgs and was smooth going up the nose with slight drip, slightly medium numbing which came on in a medium amount of time, not much euphoria, but a nice buzz all the same, i done about half or 3/4 of a gram throughout the night and i did feel the urge to constantly have another line, i stopped about 6 hours later and tried to get a bit of sleep about an hour after my last line, not a chance of sleep, lol, i ended up not being able to get to sleep until about 6 or 7 hours after my last line.
about an hour or so after my last line my nose started getting blocked up, but after i had sleep, next day nose was fine after a bit of blowing.
next day i tried cooking about half a gram up using the technique i always use, ammonia, i was very disappointed with the freebase, it turned off white with a slight blue tint and was a oily that took a long time to harden, when i smoked it, the taste was bad and there was nearly no high at all, i stopped smoking as it was so bad.
not sure if some coke can not be turned into freebase, but i have coked loads of times, so i know basically what i am doing, i did like the coke when snorting it but i would be interested if someone could get this stuff proper lab tested
Pfandleiher is a professional to deal with and he is a nice guy, im not knocking this stuff as i would buy it again, but would be very interested i what the lab results would show.
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ahhhhh that pic is a great HD pic....gets me drooling everytime!!
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Pretty good stuff. It is oily and numbing. While not the greatest, it is what PF advertised.
First 20 to 30 minutes, it packs a good punch. Then quickly, it goes. Come down is good though. Probably want to do another line after an hour since the power is gone by then. Doesn't have that euphoric feeling as great coke should have, but it does gets you moving. A bit speedy and stings on the nose. Maybe cut, but not sure. Overall, the price is right, and the vendor is trustworthy and honest. So there's big points there.
If anyone tried MIN's gear, it's about 6 out of 10 compared to MIN's standard. No major complaints.
Price vs quality scale is on par. BTW daily user for the last two months with my last batch of MIN's stuff so I may be immune :)
Thanks PF! Youre a good guy!
Who is MIN? Is he still selling? He sounds like a hell'ava guy! :)
Lol Min got nicked.
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crap coke... heavily cut
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crap coke... heavily cut
Could you elaborate a little? Why do you think it is cut?
Did you do a wash?
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did around 100mg line, been up all night, not much effects.
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did around 100mg line, been up all night, not much effects.
Nice to see ya forum name is full of potential info by the way, dead smooth.
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dont give a shit mate.
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dont give a shit mate.
That coz ya "dead hardcore" yeah? Well good to know you don't care, get's you nice and prepped for prison if ya get nicked. :)
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giving my honest opinion and get blasted... this is how sellers make so much money.
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giving my honest opinion and get blasted... this is how sellers make so much money.
LOL I am not criticizing your report, if that is your opinion that is of course yours to have. I'm pointing out the fact your name gives out a ridiculous about of information and if that corresponds to who you are you can get fucked quicker than a hooker on a stop watch. And I wasn't really blasting you either, merely making a point with flair.
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I'm taking that risk, I'm confident that I wont get caught, i think SR IS pretty secure.
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I'm taking that risk, I'm confident that I wont get caught, i think SR IS pretty secure.
Then you are being a fool I'm afraid, but good luck to you. :)
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Pretty good stuff. It is oily and numbing. While not the greatest, it is what PF advertised.
First 20 to 30 minutes, it packs a good punch. Then quickly, it goes. Come down is good though. Probably want to do another line after an hour since the power is gone by then. Doesn't have that euphoric feeling as great coke should have, but it does gets you moving. A bit speedy and stings on the nose. Maybe cut, but not sure. Overall, the price is right, and the vendor is trustworthy and honest. So there's big points there.
If anyone tried MIN's gear, it's about 6 out of 10 compared to MIN's standard. No major complaints.
Price vs quality scale is on par. BTW daily user for the last two months with my last batch of MIN's stuff so I may be immune :)
Thanks PF! Youre a good guy!
Who is MIN? Is he still selling? He sounds like a hell'ava guy! :)
Lol Min got nicked.
Aaa.. so that's why people were saying they gave the vendor a 5 out of MIN. I didn't get what MIN was until now.
So how good exactly was his shit? And what did he sell? Just coke or did he also sell other shit?
When did he get nicked?
What a shame.
Fuck LE.
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Pretty good stuff. It is oily and numbing. While not the greatest, it is what PF advertised.
First 20 to 30 minutes, it packs a good punch. Then quickly, it goes. Come down is good though. Probably want to do another line after an hour since the power is gone by then. Doesn't have that euphoric feeling as great coke should have, but it does gets you moving. A bit speedy and stings on the nose. Maybe cut, but not sure. Overall, the price is right, and the vendor is trustworthy and honest. So there's big points there.
If anyone tried MIN's gear, it's about 6 out of 10 compared to MIN's standard. No major complaints.
Price vs quality scale is on par. BTW daily user for the last two months with my last batch of MIN's stuff so I may be immune :)
Thanks PF! Youre a good guy!
Who is MIN? Is he still selling? He sounds like a hell'ava guy! :)
Lol Min got nicked.
Aaa.. so that's why people were saying they gave the vendor a 5 out of MIN. I didn't get what MIN was until now.
So how good exactly was his shit? And what did he sell? Just coke or did he also sell other shit?
When did he get nicked?
What a shame.
Fuck LE.
Was in the papers mate lol. His shit was regarded as the best on SR.
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Good golly me!
I want to read that article. When was he nicked? I probably wasn't around SR when that happened....
Is that article available on the clearnet?
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Good golly me!
I want to read that article. When was he nicked? I probably wasn't around SR when that happened....
Is that article available on the clearnet?
I can't remember the link mate. I clipped the threads about it coz it's damaging to peoples security.
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crap coke... heavily cut
definitely cut. but it is coke. i'd say anywhere from 20% to 35%. its like great street quality type. i have bought stuff off the street in NYC, and this is probably on the lower end of street gear. not fish scale as advertised for sure. but not really bunk either.
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crap coke... heavily cut
definitely cut. but it is coke. i'd say anywhere from 50% to 60%. its like great street quality type. i have bought stuff off the street in NYC, and this is probably on the higher end of street gear. not fish scale for sure. but not bunk either.
if youre looking for a quick lasting buzz, this is it. but you do need something to help you get sleeping.
Hit the Diaz for that.
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crap coke... heavily cut
definitely cut. but it is coke. i'd say anywhere from 50% to 60%. its like great street quality type. i have bought stuff off the street in NYC, and this is probably on the higher end of street gear. not fish scale for sure. but not bunk either.
if youre looking for a quick lasting buzz, this is it. but you do need something to help you get sleeping.
Hit the Diaz for that.
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but add in great service, honesty, and the vendor trying his best to serve this community is the biggest seller. he's trusted for sure and worth working with. the price could be cheaper i think
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crap coke... heavily cut
definitely cut. but it is coke. i'd say anywhere from 50% to 60%. its like great street quality type. i have bought stuff off the street in NYC, and this is probably on the higher end of street gear. not fish scale for sure. but not bunk either.
if youre looking for a quick lasting buzz, this is it. but you do need something to help you get sleeping.
Don't worry !
you have probably received the BAD batch, speed cutted, no relaxing, no euphoria, hard numbing ...
There are people who received the PERFECT batch, slow numbing, euphoria, etc
I repeat, and its only my hypothesis (more and more verified by 2 kind of reviews and not only mine...), its possible PF has 2 kind of cocaine and he don't know !
I have send to him a message 1 day ago for advertise him ...
I'm waiting on his reply...
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Quite curious to see how this stuff turns out now. I remember people shittin on Dutchaans stuff before but I never had this issue and deffo had the euphoria. :-\
I know Dutchaan and Pfand are working together and now that there is a new batch I'm curious to see how this turns out.
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I hope the listings come back up today... I've been skint for most of bleedin' June! :)
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Guys, whats all this bitchin about the coke ?
If you dont think i have good gear, then dont order and thats it. ALL the orders so far were from the same batch.
gosh this is so fucking annoying
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Guys, whats all this bitchin about the coke ?
If you dont think i have good gear, then dont order and thats it. ALL the orders so far were from the same batch.
gosh this is so fucking annoying
Lol I am not doubting you mate, just looking forward to trying it. :) Will it be dispatched today Pfand? Not in any rush just Curious George.
Seems to me that Costello might be trying to pull shit though, he's got this repeating habit of screaming his tits off about vendors rather than resolving his issues with them privately, he did it to CloudSurfer too. If you carry that shit on Costello I may have to get annoyed with you.
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I'm hoping your listings go back up soon PF.. I've been waiting forever and a day to try this coke! :) - And yeah Lim's right... Ignore the bitching, you'd get it even if you had 100% - Some people are NEVER satisfied! (Usually women!) :)
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I am not doubting you either Pfand. Your C is/was the best i ever had so far. Glad to hear from you.
Looking forward for my 2g order :)
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Pretty good stuff. It is oily and numbing. While not the greatest, it is what PF advertised.
First 20 to 30 minutes, it packs a good punch. Then quickly, it goes. Come down is good though. Probably want to do another line after an hour since the power is gone by then. Doesn't have that euphoric feeling as great coke should have, but it does gets you moving. A bit speedy and stings on the nose. Maybe cut, but not sure. Overall, the price is right, and the vendor is trustworthy and honest. So there's big points there.
If anyone tried MIN's gear, it's about 6 out of 10 compared to MIN's standard. No major complaints.
Price vs quality scale is on par. BTW daily user for the last two months with my last batch of MIN's stuff so I may be immune :)
Thanks PF! Youre a good guy!
Who is MIN? Is he still selling? He sounds like a hell'ava guy! :)
Lol Min got nicked.
Aaa.. so that's why people were saying they gave the vendor a 5 out of MIN. I didn't get what MIN was until now.
So how good exactly was his shit? And what did he sell? Just coke or did he also sell other shit?
When did he get nicked?
What a shame.
Fuck LE.
Was in the papers mate lol. His shit was regarded as the best on SR.
with the exception of tetravort mate, but he was before your time as well. shame you never sampled it man, expensive but blew even MIN's out of the water.
@ pfand - good to hear you're still alive mate :) bet you are still swamped with orders though. and like most others say - ignore the whinging - you still have 100 next to your name which means you are definitely doing something right! i'm looking forward to trying my bit... :)
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Guys, whats all this bitchin about the coke ?
If you dont think i have good gear, then dont order and thats it. ALL the orders so far were from the same batch.
gosh this is so fucking annoying
Lol I am not doubting you mate, just looking forward to trying it. :) Will it be dispatched today Pfand? Not in any rush just Curious George.
Seems to me that Costello might be trying to pull shit though, he's got this repeating habit of screaming his tits off about vendors rather than resolving his issues with them privately, he did it to CloudSurfer too. If you carry that shit on Costello I may have to get annoyed with you.
I think Costello is looking for some God given coke...Something like you take one line and you're instantly catapulted in heaven. And you're there for like 5 hours not thinking about coke. Just pure, gold euphoria. And the comedown, well that isn't really comedown, just God saying to you :"Well, I'll lower you now on Earth again. You can take another line, but you don't need to, because you'll still feel like you snorted few lines of Earth fishscale coke.
There is numbing, but that isn't numbing, LOL. And, it smells like young virgin pussy. Or whatever...
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Well he's gunna have to keep praying then because even when it's 99% it doesn't work like that lol.
I think what might be closer to the truth is he is trying to make lots of noise because he thinks if he does then vendors will give him free shit like what he tried to do with CloudSurfer. It's called having snidey-thieving-larcenous-whore syndrome and it shan't be tolerated with a kick in the balls being the only known cure.
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I purchased 5g for my good friend who is quite an experience Cocaine user. I can only repeat what he said, but he mentioned he thought the product wasn't quality and was apparently "five times worse" than what he considers good quality Cocaine. He made specific mention to the texture of the product, saying that it was far off being what it was supposed to be.
I am only repeating what he told me, and as I have never tried Cocaine myself can not vouch for any of this. Feel free to purchase his product and try for yourself, but purchase at your own risk.
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please,
read my messages one more time ... i never accusated PF ! i've learn of the history from CS to make thing in private !
i only say : there is 2 kinds of reviews ... only this ....
i've paid PF and i WILL not ANY refund !
PF is a good guy , i have allready make some business with !
I have only said for him to look why there is 2 kinds of reviews....
i don't want to have any problem or lychange public.
Thank you for all people only to reads one more time all reviews and make yourself a conclusion.
Please don't begin a public lynchage as the last time.
thank you for your comprehension.
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Im
Dear Pfandleiher-Support,
I ordered 1G of AWESOME SHIT like 12 days ago and it was marked shipped 10 days ago. Now this is an unusual long delivery time (I am in one of Pf's neighboring countries with lots of nice mountains and average shipping time is usually 2-3 days). I also noticed that there have been lots of problems with bad batches and shit and Pf seams slightly upset and all of his listings are removed also. Now I don't believe in the fairy tale of disappearing letters, but I do believe in mixups like sending an order to the wrong person (this happened to me twice (got shit I haven't ordered) since I am here, which is not very long).
I think this won't arrive anymore and I don't care if reship or refund. How do you guys suggest I proceed?
Thanks in advance!
I'm hoping its just because he is a bit chaotic recently but I ordered stuff from china same day as i ordered from PF and my stuff from China has arrived. Never waited more than 4 days to get stuff from EU so am just gonna wait until after the weekend before message him, don't wanna add to the guys workload unnecessarily. I feel bad because the money is still sitting in escrow, just wanna get my shit so i can release whats owed to him. Being that your item was in transit 10 days ago I'd message him on SR, perhaps see if there is a tracking number you can check on... it may just be a genuine delay.
Ive sent thousands of letters/packages over recent years and never had one disappear so i also think thats an unlikely scenario.
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With 0.1 lines I'm not getting effects but then again, stimulants and me don't seem to go together.. Same happened with speed and EP even though the sellers had lots of recommendations about their stuff being totally bomb... Sigh.
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Just wanted to jump and update the forum on my order that's been in processing since early Tuesday...it's in transit now. Seems like PF is really cutting through the backlog. I have experience with the drug and can't wait to update the thread with my review. Peace out guys.
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*Mods; disclaimer (couldnt find asterisk for 5 minutes) if anything gets shat out in this review against TOS please feel free to omit - it is unintentional*
You'll have to excuse me for any typos -- it has taken me complete "one eye, upright posture" just to get this opening sentence correct. With plenty of backspaces (like forget your password and erase the whole damn thing and start over kind of deal) The level of giving a fuck presenting myself with educated dignity will not continue past this sentence.
Time: From adding to Cartt to getting the "high" of seeing that piece of mail (you know its a rush) I was immediately relieved and excited that despite all the mishaps (love for you) for PF which I hope was handled through gangster dutch brutality (imagine American Histoy X but the guy curb stomps him with wooden clogs) it took 7 days to midwest merica. I channeled trust towards PF and it was granted in return with iimpecable servic. 5/5
Shipping The stealth of shipping was some of the most legit I have seen through my, although meager, transactions -- keep up the good work 5/5
Actually now that I think about it.. PF has been in the customer serv uper echelon for so long that I don't think its pertinant to reiterate what most have already grown to love. So lets cut the shit and talk product.
Product - Received 1g -- Took a pinky lick numby out of the side bag scrappings (+5-7 min onset and the beer I was dringking flet like it was foam and absent of real taste. (delay onset numb is pro in my book) It was hard and rocky due to the shipping method so understandale couple flicks of the corner and dollar bill lighter fixed it right up the choppable ritual that I have grown to adore -- I had a prior engagement (in 30 min) where I was listed for a public speaking spot - despite by better judgement I took a little guy.
Little guy was probably a 10mg (justa bump this time) took a shower, got cleaned up, never really got a good buzz but this was primarily for a cutting agent test. I am very sensitive to amps and can jaw clench on even 10mg. Went to blah blach blah to the good shit thats worht a fuck, all this shit is a waste of time
Went to a friends house with 1g -- took money completely out of the equation, split that shit down the middle and railled from 10 to 4:30am --we started with a gagger and bumped it all night with beers and whiskey. I have not shat the shit with this cat for months and it was one of those profound human level connections for hours like we had never dropped out of touch.
At no point was there that "fiend" silence where each one of us are all like, "yeah this talk is cool but it would be cooler with a fat bump and a drip" - chill relaxed great
On the first gagger which was probably .2 each was very intense but followed up with a nostril apocolypse within 20 minutes. That got some shit stuck in your nose so you keep pulling the cheek and trying to drain when in reraliy there is noting to consume -- found out that .05 thinny lines where were it was at
Ok fuck all this --- The coke was great --- No nose burning and no eyes tearing up. Calm conversation without mouth contortion. When we ran out, we felt completely satisfied and not at all depressed it was gone. 5/5 PF thanks again
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I might revisted this to edit for smarter stuff - I took my "sleep" regiment but wanted to post. They kicked in too soon
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I received Pfandleihers coke. It's a typical 1G type packing. From over 50+ transaction i made. The best vacuum seal I've seen on SR. received 6 days to east coast. Very good coke. I would compare it to TheStore. It was like one flat piece of rock. (definitely did not look like the picture someones else posted here) It smelled as it should. Not over powering and does not smell like mustard as someone stated here. I crushed most of it up with my figures while in the bag. then put it thru my sifter. the rocks were hard and crunchy and tend to fly everywhere. The pile it left behind was a little smaller that i normally see. But the weight was right on 1g. Took .3 lines. took a couple of minutes to hit, but then creep-ed up for about 20 minutes and leveled off. Felt good for about 40 minutes until I felt a need to re-dose. I didn't experience any speediness no nose clogging. Comedown was non existent as to I taking a couple of bars after my last two lines. This is not the best best coke I have gotten of SR, but I think this is the best coke you can get on SR right now.
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I received Pfandleihers coke. It's a typical 1G type packing. From over 50+ transaction i made. The best vacuum seal I've seen on SR. received 6 days to east coast. Very good coke. I would compare it to TheStore. It was like one flat piece of rock. (definitely did not look like the picture someones else posted here) It smelled as it should. Not over powering and does not smell like mustard as someone stated here. I crushed most of it up with my figures while in the bag. then put it thru my sifter. the rocks were hard and crunchy and tend to fly everywhere. The pile it left behind was a little smaller that i normally see. But the weight was right on 1g. Took .3 lines. took a couple of minutes to hit, but then creep-ed up for about 20 minutes and leveled off. Felt good for about 40 minutes until I felt a need to re-dose. I didn't experience any speediness no nose clogging. Comedown was non existent as to I taking a couple of bars after my last two lines. This is not the best best coke I have gotten of SR, but I think this is the best coke you can get on SR right now.
he has to have 2 batches... the gram i received had a strange consistency and stunk of mustard, the effects I got were very racing heart and speed effects.. not happy at all because this stuff aint cheap.
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the gram i received had a strange consistency and stunk of mustard
eeewwwww.
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!!! FAKE COCAINE - THAT'S A FACT !!!
Querido Pfandleiher!
uno: NO EUPHORIA - that's NOT COCAINE!
dos: NO SLEEP FOR MANY HOURS after last line - that's NOT COCAINE!
tres: NUMB LONGER THAN 20 min - that's NOT COCAINE!
After first line of cocaine you should feel greatest euphoria in your life. After last you should fall asleep within 2 hours. Whole time between first and last line you should have clean, fresh, god alike experience. Why is cocaine so expensive? Because it's worth it!
Unfortunately some (or maybe whole, I don't know) of Pfandleiher's "cocaine" is worthless mix of shitty low-end psychoactive substances. Neither well documented and tested. Possibly harmful. For sure not worth to take it even for free. I won't tell you here what's inside packages some of you received. Too many people who want to earn fast money by tricking others could try to start selling their own "cocaine".
But believe me - IT'S NOT COCAINE - IT'S ONLY CHEAP IMITATION! Be aware that quick field tests won't give you a definite answer. You need to take it to a lab or snort it and compare with real cocaine to be sure.
I'm not saying it's Pfandleiher or supplier fault. I won't even try to judge anyone.
Maybe it's only one batch. Maybe postman is putting crap in cocaine's place. Maybe some European DEA agents at post office are seizing shit and sending crap to customers lol.
I don't really care. Let's hope none of the customers got any harm because of that.
IMO Pfandleiher should post good TESTED cocaine to everyone who received crap from "no euphoria" batch making sure they will receive what they ordered. People have paid for cocaine not for some brain fucking mix.
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yeah, i paid for 25 grams of it, how do you think i feel, if it was a gram or 2 i would cut my losses and move on, but 25 grams is a lot of money for me, dont really want to be complaining in public, but dont know what else to do as hes busy and not reading any of his messages
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hes deleting his inbox on monday and starting again dude, i'd shoot him a message then. You tried washing any of it?
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yeah, i paid for 25 grams of it, how do you think i feel, if it was a gram or 2 i would cut my losses and move on, but 25 grams is a lot of money for me, dont really want to be complaining in public, but dont know what else to do as hes busy and reading any of his messages
you had the mustard smelling crap too!? I'm trying to get a full refund because this is ridiculous.
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never tried washing it mate, but cooked some up with ammonia and the end result was pathetic,
not sure if i would call the smell of it mustard, but there is a really really unpleasant strong as fuck smell off it, no euphoria, paranoid as hell, blocked up nose next day, edgy, and forget about any sleep once you have done more than a half gram, i know my coke as i have been using it for over 20 years and this coke is either something completely different or is heavily cut witha very strong active cut, thats why prob a lot of people think its good, because you do get a strong hit off it, love to see a proper test done on it and see the results, but if any of you can cook up with ammonia into freebase or do the bleach test, try them and post your results up.
dont think Pfandleiher is actually there is a problem with his coke, but this needs looking into further
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Sorry to hear about your problems, really sucks :-\
There is a bleach test you can do to determine if your coke is adulterated with any amphetamines. its what I do if I'm suspect about my gear.
also check Le Junk's cocaine purification tek where the quote from below was taken. Loads of great info on adulterated cocaine in the whole thread.
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27089
Pfand seems like a good guy, or he would have just bailed when he had the MDMA problems, I'm hopeful that you will be able to work it out with him on Monday. Just thinking if you can use the info in that thread to gather some evidence it may give you a better chance of finding an amicable resolution. :)
One final note: There is a quick and easy method to determine whether or not your adulterated cocaine actually contains amphetamine. Simply fill a tall drinking glass with regular Clorox bleach. Drop approximately one line worth of your adulterated cocaine into the bleach. After about 10-15 seconds, cocaine will start to fall to the bottom in swirling white trails, leaving no residue by the time it hits the bottom. You will be left with a small, yellowish looking oily residue left floating on top. After a minute or two, amphetamine will turn into an oily reddish (not orange) residue on top and my even leave trails of red in the bleach. Otherwise, your cocaine does not contain amphetamine. Additional "caines" other than cocaine, will leave behind an oily orange residue left floating on top. This is not uncommon and may likely be the case as many "caines" are used to adulterate cocaine due to their numbing qualities. But, additional "caines" other than cocaine itself are considered "inactive" cuts and do not alter the true effects of the cocaine. It is important to know that out of the some 100 different types of caines (procaine, lidocaine, benzocaine, tetracaine etc), all add numbness, but do create euphoria. THE ONLY "CAINE" THAT CAN PRODUCE A EUPHORIA IS COCAINE. If you experience no euphoria from your product, it most likely contains no cocaine at all. And yes, this does occasionally happen.......occasionally. If using cocaine on a regular basis, it is best that you learn how to detect not only the actual presence of cocaine in your purchase, but the percentage as well. This is not a thread on how to determine the presence of, or the percentage of, so you may want to read up on the bleach test, EZ white test, foil test etc. to become more familiar with on site testing before you make your purchase.
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i also think Pfandleiher is a decent honest guy and i dont think in the slightest would ever try to con people, i hope we can agree on an amicable solution as over $2000 is a hell of a lot of money for me when i have got 25 grams of something that isnt coke or has been badly cut with something, going to bleach test it tomorrow morning, but i have cooked some up with ammonia into freebase and was highly disappointed in the results
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Sorry to hear about your problems, really sucks :-\
There is a bleach test you can do to determine if your coke is adulterated with any amphetamines. its what I do if I'm suspect about my gear.
also check Le Junk's cocaine purification tek where the quote from below was taken. Loads of great info on adulterated cocaine in the whole thread.
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27089
Pfand seems like a good guy, or he would have just bailed when he had the MDMA problems, I'm hopeful that you will be able to work it out with him on Monday. Just thinking if you can use the info in that thread to gather some evidence it may give you a better chance of finding an amicable resolution. :)
One final note: There is a quick and easy method to determine whether or not your adulterated cocaine actually contains amphetamine. Simply fill a tall drinking glass with regular Clorox bleach. Drop approximately one line worth of your adulterated cocaine into the bleach. After about 10-15 seconds, cocaine will start to fall to the bottom in swirling white trails, leaving no residue by the time it hits the bottom. You will be left with a small, yellowish looking oily residue left floating on top. After a minute or two, amphetamine will turn into an oily reddish (not orange) residue on top and my even leave trails of red in the bleach. Otherwise, your cocaine does not contain amphetamine. Additional "caines" other than cocaine, will leave behind an oily orange residue left floating on top. This is not uncommon and may likely be the case as many "caines" are used to adulterate cocaine due to their numbing qualities. But, additional "caines" other than cocaine itself are considered "inactive" cuts and do not alter the true effects of the cocaine. It is important to know that out of the some 100 different types of caines (procaine, lidocaine, benzocaine, tetracaine etc), all add numbness, but do create euphoria. THE ONLY "CAINE" THAT CAN PRODUCE A EUPHORIA IS COCAINE. If you experience no euphoria from your product, it most likely contains no cocaine at all. And yes, this does occasionally happen.......occasionally. If using cocaine on a regular basis, it is best that you learn how to detect not only the actual presence of cocaine in your purchase, but the percentage as well. This is not a thread on how to determine the presence of, or the percentage of, so you may want to read up on the bleach test, EZ white test, foil test etc. to become more familiar with on site testing before you make your purchase.
This crap doesn't contain *amines. It's something different. But as I said before I wont tell what. It contains *caines (unfortunately no or in best scenario almost no cocaine). This is a good fake and many people can get easily tricked. That's why if one is buying coke f2f he should always sniff some from randomly picked part of brick. You either sniff it or do gas chromatography. Every other way sucks.
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well mate, i dont know whats in it, but i know it gives a strong buzz, and that it could be mistaken for coke by people, but when you cook some up into freebase with ammonia and know what you are doing, then if it isnt coke or bad quality coke before you cook, you will know what is what.
when i cooked this stuff up it was terrible, strange color, took forever to go even slightly hard, tasted terrible when smoked, burnt and absolutely no effect at all, not even a slight buzz and def no euphoria, i have never bought coke from silkroad that i couldnt extract some freebase from and i was really surprised with the outcome of this, i dont know what it is or whats it been cut with, all i can tell u is that it is not good, if anyone can cook some up, give it a try and share your results
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if anyone can cook some up, give it a try and share your results
Result will be a little bit of something which not necessary will form coke alike rocks. It contains X*HCL so you will get something for sure. But even if it would form rocks looking like regular crack it won't kick. That's not coke.
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yeah, you are right mate, i didnt get any sort of buzz from it at all, almost as if it has absolutely no coke in it to start with, even on the few times i have bought not so good coke from SR, i always could salvage some decent freebase from it that i would get a terrific buzz from, have you any of your coke left ? can you test a bit or cook up ?
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I wonder if there is different standards between the US and EU. Maybe Pfandleiher's gear is good for EU. But the US get its gear mostly from S. America. So there could be different sources which makes coke seem pleasant to EU folks but not to others who are used to S. American gear. Or maybe its a cultural preference.
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no mate, lol, im from Eu and i have had coke from all over the world, i was ordering from tetravort and moveitnice, one from USA and on from canada, i also order from UK and other parts of EU
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no mate, lol, im from Eu and i have had coke from all over the world, i was ordering from tetravort and moveitnice, one from USA and on from canada, i also order from UK and other parts of EU
so you prefer US or EU? overall
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it doesnt come down to where its sold from, its about quality and if its been cut or not, MIN and tetravort had lovely stuff, but ive had as good as quality from EU vendors and even UK vendors
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yeah, you are right mate, i didnt get any sort of buzz from it at all, almost as if it has absolutely no coke in it to start with, even on the few times i have bought not so good coke from SR, i always could salvage some decent freebase from it that i would get a terrific buzz from, have you any of your coke left ? can you test a bit or cook up ?
I already tested it and I exactly know what this crap is.
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yeah, you are right mate, i didnt get any sort of buzz from it at all, almost as if it has absolutely no coke in it to start with, even on the few times i have bought not so good coke from SR, i always could salvage some decent freebase from it that i would get a terrific buzz from, have you any of your coke left ? can you test a bit or cook up ?
I already tested it and I exactly know what this crap is.
and the result is?...
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yeah, i paid for 25 grams of it, how do you think i feel, if it was a gram or 2 i would cut my losses and move on, but 25 grams is a lot of money for me, dont really want to be complaining in public, but dont know what else to do as hes busy and not reading any of his messages
LOL. Buying bulk without sampling is not very smart ;)
PFs limited drug knowledge bothers me a bit. He got ripped off again after this M disaster just because he doesn't know anything about his own stuff.
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i know mate, i have dealt with him few times before and he has been great to deal with plus he told me it was the best coke you can get, hes a good man and i think he is honest and has maybe been conned himself, i just hope he sorts it out in a reasonable manner.
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yeah, you are right mate, i didnt get any sort of buzz from it at all, almost as if it has absolutely no coke in it to start with, even on the few times i have bought not so good coke from SR, i always could salvage some decent freebase from it that i would get a terrific buzz from, have you any of your coke left ? can you test a bit or cook up ?
I already tested it and I exactly know what this crap is.
and the result is?...
Mix of synthetics which imitates cocaine. Actually very good fake. You will know that something's wrong 10 minutes after sniffing or 10 minutes after taking it to a lab - not earlier. However simple hot plate test is enough if you tested good coke few times. Coke don't produce so much fumes. This crap is worst than smoke grenade ;)
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yeah, you are right mate, i didnt get any sort of buzz from it at all, almost as if it has absolutely no coke in it to start with, even on the few times i have bought not so good coke from SR, i always could salvage some decent freebase from it that i would get a terrific buzz from, have you any of your coke left ? can you test a bit or cook up ?
I already tested it and I exactly know what this crap is.
and the result is?...
Mix of synthetics which imitates cocaine. Actually very good fake. You will know that something's wrong 10 minutes after sniffing or 10 minutes after taking it to a lab - not earlier. However simple hot plate test is enough if you tested good coke few times. Coke don't produce so much fumes. This crap is worst than smoke grenade ;)
i just think its cut. there is coke in there. wish someone could do a proper regent test
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PFs limited drug knowledge bothers me a bit. He got ripped off again after this M disaster just because he doesn't know anything about his own stuff.
sugar -> dd mix -> ?? fucking potassium cyanide ??
I'm just wondering if it's he, competition or some schnitzel DEA ;)
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yeah, you are right mate, i didnt get any sort of buzz from it at all, almost as if it has absolutely no coke in it to start with, even on the few times i have bought not so good coke from SR, i always could salvage some decent freebase from it that i would get a terrific buzz from, have you any of your coke left ? can you test a bit or cook up ?
I already tested it and I exactly know what this crap is.
and the result is?...
Mix of synthetics which imitates cocaine. Actually very good fake. You will know that something's wrong 10 minutes after sniffing or 10 minutes after taking it to a lab - not earlier. However simple hot plate test is enough if you tested good coke few times. Coke don't produce so much fumes. This crap is worst than smoke grenade ;)
In other words a chemical mix! You could compare it to an antiques reproduction, where the antique is real, and the reproduction is a copy, IE a fake. Someone somewhere once told me about chemical mix "coke", its out there, ready in big blocks and everything. Some people even prefer it to real coke as it gives them what they expect to get out of coke, which isn't coke, if you get what I mean.
I feel sorry for P, he seems to be highly respected on SR, I mean even the greatest antiques dealer can get conned into buying a forgery, I'm sure it could happen to the greatest vendor if its that good of a mix too. It's possible!
I still really want to buy from P, but think I will hang out for his next delivery! I will review then too.
Anyway, thanks to all the contributors, this is a really interesting thread! :)
could a wash verify if this is true or not?
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yeah, you are right mate, i didnt get any sort of buzz from it at all, almost as if it has absolutely no coke in it to start with, even on the few times i have bought not so good coke from SR, i always could salvage some decent freebase from it that i would get a terrific buzz from, have you any of your coke left ? can you test a bit or cook up ?
I already tested it and I exactly know what this crap is.
and the result is?...
Mix of synthetics which imitates cocaine. Actually very good fake. You will know that something's wrong 10 minutes after sniffing or 10 minutes after taking it to a lab - not earlier. However simple hot plate test is enough if you tested good coke few times. Coke don't produce so much fumes. This crap is worst than smoke grenade ;)
i just think its cut. there is coke in there. wish someone could do a proper regent test
By "proper regent test" you mean (acidified) cobalt thiocyanate test? It will be blue. But not because there's cocaine in this crap. As I wrote: very good fake.
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yeah, you are right mate, i didnt get any sort of buzz from it at all, almost as if it has absolutely no coke in it to start with, even on the few times i have bought not so good coke from SR, i always could salvage some decent freebase from it that i would get a terrific buzz from, have you any of your coke left ? can you test a bit or cook up ?
I already tested it and I exactly know what this crap is.
and the result is?...
Mix of synthetics which imitates cocaine. Actually very good fake. You will know that something's wrong 10 minutes after sniffing or 10 minutes after taking it to a lab - not earlier. However simple hot plate test is enough if you tested good coke few times. Coke don't produce so much fumes. This crap is worst than smoke grenade ;)
i just think its cut. there is coke in there. wish someone could do a proper regent test
By "proper regent test" you mean (acidified) cobalt thiocyanate test? It will be blue. But not because there's cocaine in this crap. As I wrote: very good fake.
pics or it didnt happen. my guess its 50/50 cut
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with a 50/50 cut, i would have still got a real good buzz from cooking up some with ammonia and smoking it
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yeah, you are right mate, i didnt get any sort of buzz from it at all, almost as if it has absolutely no coke in it to start with, even on the few times i have bought not so good coke from SR, i always could salvage some decent freebase from it that i would get a terrific buzz from, have you any of your coke left ? can you test a bit or cook up ?
I already tested it and I exactly know what this crap is.
and the result is?...
Mix of synthetics which imitates cocaine. Actually very good fake. You will know that something's wrong 10 minutes after sniffing or 10 minutes after taking it to a lab - not earlier. However simple hot plate test is enough if you tested good coke few times. Coke don't produce so much fumes. This crap is worst than smoke grenade ;)
i just think its cut. there is coke in there. wish someone could do a proper regent test
By "proper regent test" you mean (acidified) cobalt thiocyanate test? It will be blue. But not because there's cocaine in this crap. As I wrote: very good fake.
pics or it didnt happen. my guess its 50/50 cut
50/50 lol, maybe your is, definitely not mine
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with a 50/50 cut, i would have still got a real good buzz from cooking up some with ammonia and smoking it
Very true, I can vouch for Sara based on my experiences of 50/50! :)
yea not a toker so cant testify to that. need a chemist to jump in and do us justice
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anyway, im going to stop talking about it until i see what Pfandleiher proposes to do about it,
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yeah, you are right mate, i didnt get any sort of buzz from it at all, almost as if it has absolutely no coke in it to start with, even on the few times i have bought not so good coke from SR, i always could salvage some decent freebase from it that i would get a terrific buzz from, have you any of your coke left ? can you test a bit or cook up ?
I already tested it and I exactly know what this crap is.
and the result is?...
Mix of synthetics which imitates cocaine. Actually very good fake. You will know that something's wrong 10 minutes after sniffing or 10 minutes after taking it to a lab - not earlier. However simple hot plate test is enough if you tested good coke few times. Coke don't produce so much fumes. This crap is worst than smoke grenade ;)
hopefully not dangerous, but god knows what it is as the smell alone is really strong, i hope Pfandleiher comes and sorts this out soon, he knows how to cook up freebase as he used to sell it, so it would be easy for him to test this coke out, im also looking for a full refund, as this is clearly not coke i have, it may as well be talcum powder as it useless to me and its not what i paid for.
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yeah, you are right mate, i didnt get any sort of buzz from it at all, almost as if it has absolutely no coke in it to start with, even on the few times i have bought not so good coke from SR, i always could salvage some decent freebase from it that i would get a terrific buzz from, have you any of your coke left ? can you test a bit or cook up ?
I already tested it and I exactly know what this crap is.
and the result is?...
Mix of synthetics which imitates cocaine. Actually very good fake. You will know that something's wrong 10 minutes after sniffing or 10 minutes after taking it to a lab - not earlier. However simple hot plate test is enough if you tested good coke few times. Coke don't produce so much fumes. This crap is worst than smoke grenade ;)
hopefully not dangerous, but god knows what it is as the smell alone is really strong, i hope Pfandleiher comes and sorts this out soon, he knows how to cook up freebase as he used to sell it, so it would be easy for him to test this coke out, im also looking for a full refund, as this is clearly not coke i have, it may as well be talcum powder as it useless to me and its not what i paid for.
You mentioned earlier to like the product, so why a FULL refund? A bit too much I think.
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My order was marked in transit a couple of hours ago...
Will report back with a review- including wash (anhydrous acetone & ether), solubility (chloroform) and reagent tests once it arrives.
I find a 100mg dose a bit too much for my liking - too many negative side effects. ~50mg of tetravort's washed product was bliss for me, we'll see how Pfandleiher's stuff compares.
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hi,
why the coke listing of PF have not the feedback now ?
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hi,
why the coke listing of PF have not the feedback now ?
Becuse he make a new listing!
He delete the old ones!!
Before was:
''1G Flake Cocaine AWESOME SHIT !''
And now is:
''Cocaine 1G''
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hi,
why the coke listing of PF have not the feedback now ?
Becuse he make a new listing!
He delete the old ones!!
Before was:
''1G Flake Cocaine AWESOME SHIT !''
And now is:
''Cocaine 1G''
he's trying to flog his talc powder.
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Ha ...
i'm not alone now ? that is one week i've said the "coke" i received was crap...
i was public lynched .... i saw there is some coke connoiseur here and not only stupid sheeps ...
i only hope PF will resend real coke for free or refund his customer.
i think he is a good guy and he was scammed in real life ... he don't scamm intentionally ...
But with the Molly fiasco, he have to test his product before buyin them ,,,,
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Ha ...
i'm not alone now ? that is one week i've said the "coke" i received was crap...
i was public lynched .... i saw there is some coke connoisseur here and not only stupid sheeps ...
i only hope PF will resend real coke for free or refund his customer.
i think he is a good guy and he was scammed in real life ... he don't scamm intentionally ...
But with the Molly fiasco, he have to test his product before buyin them ,,,,
Im not a seller but when I buy a few G's IRL I allways test the product before a buy it!!
But here on SR you cannot test it, you need to relay on honest review by coke connoisseur's !
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I noticed with Pfandleihers coke that my penis shrinked but I was still able to have an orgasm
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I noticed with Pfandleihers coke that my penis shrinked but I was still able to have an orgasm
Hahahahah :D
This post make me ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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yeah, the coke i got off him, well, it wasnt coke, fullstop, def is not cocaine, far from it.
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I noticed with Pfandleihers coke that my penis shrinked but I was still able to have an orgasm
Sounds like *amph* ;)
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Well he's gunna have to keep praying then because even when it's 99% it doesn't work like that lol.
I think what might be closer to the truth is he is trying to make lots of noise because he thinks if he does then vendors will give him free shit like what he tried to do with CloudSurfer. It's called having snidey-thieving-larcenous-whore syndrome and it shan't be tolerated with a kick in the balls being the only known cure.
have you received your 5g order ?
Can you give a review ?
thanks
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pfandleiher could at least have the decency to reply to my messages or even say something on his thread, even to say he is going to work something out with this, i seen he has changed his coke listings????
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He said to me 'don't know why you don't like it' ...Thanks mate....not patronising in the slightest...
Because it ISNT FUCKING COCAINE HCL...AT ALL is perhaps why. Bleached, rinsed, cooked... its fucking garbage. Most fabricated product title on SR ever (unless you got the sugar MDMA I guess.... from the same vendor) . Then he basically posted on his page: dont give me bad feedback (for sugar MDMA and 'awesome cocaine' that you are just to ignorant/stupid to appreciate) or i'll send you shit in future orders... WTF!? (Since changed, but those people that read it will probably be holding PF at arms length now. I dont want to be he who is selectively scammed thanks) I thought this dude was awesome (when something is too good to be true it always is). I dont need to be threatened by fucking dealers... I'll go hustle from 1%er's locally if I want that.
So like always, I dont want a fucking refund because it fucks my stats and dont want a token 'slap in the face' gram of more shit after buying several..., just a change in vendors. Sticking with Sesampino. I have said it once and say it again. Ignorance is no excuse. And If I want to be swindled by dealers ill go up the road from my house and get bent over for real.
A real shame and expect his feedback to go to the shitter.
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He said to me 'don't know why you don't like it' ...Thanks mate....not patronising in the slightest...
Because it ISNT FUCKING COCAINE HCL...AT ALL is perhaps why. Bleached, rinsed, cooked... its fucking garbage. Most fabricated product title on SR ever (unless you got the sugar MDMA I guess.... from the same vendor) . Then he basically posted on his page: dont give me bad feedback (for sugar MDMA and 'awesome cocaine' that you are just to ignorant/stupid to appreciate) or i'll send you shit in future orders... WTF!? (Since changed, but those people that read it will probably be holding PF at arms length now. I dont want to be he who is selectively scammed thanks) I thought this dude was awesome (when something is too good to be true it always is). I dont need to be threatened by fucking dealers... I'll go hustle from 1%er's locally if I want that.
So like always, I dont want a fucking refund because it fucks my stats and dont want a token 'slap in the face' gram of more shit after buying several..., just a change in vendors. Sticking with Sesampino. I have said it once and say it again. Ignorance is no excuse. And If I want to be swindled by dealers ill go up the road from my house and get bent over for real.
A real shame and expect his feedback to go to the shitter.
but it still melts down extremely oily, it must be some active -caines
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This isn't necessarily the case at all. I am not able to extensively determine what the contents are after testing...but I can tell you what it isn't : awesome , flake or cocaine. The numbing wasn't similar to any aine. Far, FAR too mild if it did indeed have a caine as a major % containment . (And bitches please, the tests have been conducted on GKS 100% cocaine HCL as a benchmark comparison to Pf's coke... if you know your shit, this wont need explanation, and unfortunately for security I will say no more)
I honestly think it is one batch, but two types of users: those of us who know the effects of cocaine HCL, and those who don't. Some people love any buzz they get. The rest of us who have benchmark experiences over a long period of time will have to be disappointed. For quality where I am , I need to pay $400 dollars a gram.. hello!? can you save some non garbage for people happy to pay top dollar to avoid a stuffed nose and nausea !? Im sure there will be a massive market for the kook who ends up giving realistic reviews on good C even if they charge a lot for it.
Ahhhh marketing... no different on SR than 'orgasmic milk chocolate' commercials. Still disappointed but ordering more from another vendor ASAP. As I said, Nobody I know over about 18 in my degenerate circle of influence would consider this even average street coke.
Anyway, sorry be be a 'hater', whatever that is you ebonic speaking try-hards. I am just a realist trying to help people with standards make a quality purchase and not feeling absolutely fucking stung as I feel now (yep...my nose hurts as well!)! Like I always say, Pfhandleiher is a cool guy and provides quality service, but THIS ROUND OF COKE IS A FUCKING JOKE, PERIOD.
looking forward to hearing a review of a PF new batch from somebody who actually has a decent review, unlike something like : WOW I WAS FUCKED FOR AGES! SMELT AMAZING!! (Cocaine doesn't smell you twits! the garbage it is jumped on with does! sigh...)
Really sorry PF. I know you are awesome...and your MDMA as well in my experience.
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"Guys, whats all this bitchin about the coke ?
If you dont think i have good gear, then dont order and thats it. ALL the orders so far were from the same batch.
gosh this is so fucking annoying"
I guess we had to figure out this 'fucking annoying' fact ourselves BY ORDERING. It is even more annoying as we were unable to assess how shit it was from your misleading description...now changed. And why stand the Mexican standoff on quality? as YOU claim you didn't want to test it to stay 'alert 23/7' . Fine in theory, highly dubious in reality. And essentially, this means that you have no idea of what you are selling and are speculating the accuracy (description) of your whole seller. Common marketing though, so fair enough I guess.
Saying the 'bitching is fucking annoying' due to the former statements of this message lacks class. All we are doing is giving feedback. Not on you or your service, but the product you are selling. My only recourse is to give an accurate review, as there is no reimbursement anyway...
words, people: they can be useful, and only offensive to the uneducated/idiotic general population.
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Lots of negative vibes towards PF, I understand your frustration. I, too, am steering away from PF's business for now until he gets his shit together.... I know 'super pro' drug dealers aren't drug users and all that but for fuck sakes know your fuckin batch
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great coke makes me wanna take a dump. this gear that he sent didnt even make me fart. didnt realize this until a few days later.
i did some simple tests on this gear from various websites. some passed, some didnt. im not sure what it could be, but hopefully it isnt dangerous to the body (well more than coke itself) if you do much too. after a few days, i found my nose bleeding which never happened with other premium stuff bought from SR. it does sting.
im split. i love PF's quick replies, but wish he could be more honest about this gear. I would suggest not to buy.
also wish Wowzers can step in and do a test for us...
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waiting for my command with PF, which is in transit , j am afraid about quality .. hope to not have lost 10g..
will edit at receive
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What's all this about? I can't be arsed to read through the thread. Can someone briefly fill me in, mustard? Whaaa? :-\
Oh and I do have a personal interest, ordered 5g.
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What's all this about? I can't be arsed to read through the thread. Can someone briefly fill me in, mustard? Whaaa? :-\
Oh and I do have a personal interest, ordered 5g.
Quick brief :
2 kind of coke. 2 kind of reviews. one good and one probable syntheticic imitation. stupid newbies and SR sheeps can be an easy victims ...
when i have said that, one week later you"injuried" me ;)
Your position wasn't really neutral as should be a global moderator, in my sense of course ;)
Now for you and your order, its 50/50 .. you can receive the good or the bad.
to be sure , you can cook 0.5g with ammonia.
I hope you receive the good batch ... :)
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Lol I don't cook Bing mate, not into the "Rock-side" of life.
Will update when it comes, I'm sure all will be well. One must have faith until given reason otherwise. :)
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waiting for my command with PF, which is in transit , j am afraid about quality .. hope to not have lost 10g..
will edit at receive
50/50 .... you can receive the good one or bad one ...
i only hope the Perfect reviews on the PF good coke have been made by connoiseur user and not by newbies-sheep ...
because there is one thing i'm sure, the "coke" i received was shit-crap ... so the bad batch really exist ..
but i haven't receive his good batch ... so for me , now i'm not sure this batch really exist because i havent tested it, i only believe in me now on SR :)
So for me the bad batch exist, and for the good batch i don't really know ...
Give us a review when you receive your product
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waiting for my command with PF, which is in transit , j am afraid about quality .. hope to not have lost 10g..
will edit at receive
50/50 .... you can receive the good one or bad one ...
i only hope the Perfect reviews on the PF good coke have been made by connoiseur user and not by newbies-sheep ...
because there is one thing i'm sure, the "coke" i received was shit-crap ... so the bad batch really exist ..
but i haven't receive his good batch ... so for me , now i'm not sure this batch really exist because i havent tested it, i only believe in me now on SR :)
So for me the bad batch exist, and for the good batch i don't really know ...
Give us a review when you receive your product
Pfand supposedly gets his gear from dutchaanblood, and he said he gets a new batch from him all the time so every batch is probably different
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tbh it doesn't bode well if pf doesn't have a clue about quality drugs. If suppliers knows this they will take advantage and the knock on effect is that us users are gonna get stung as has happened with sugar MDMA and "Mustard" coke. I won't be ordering from him.
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This is just a case of someone without the expertise in drugs getting too big too fast and hence its all gone to pot. Like seriously buying weights of sugar as MDMA, i think then people should of questioned weather he should be selling large quantities of drugs. Im sure we have all been ripped off in the past face to face but this quantity then to sent out with out realising WTF.
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One thing
PF has sold hundreds of people, shit instead of cocaine, and pretends that everything is ok.Of course, as previously posted on the forum non stop - now silent
People had lost a lot of money and PF still has a rating of almost 100%
unbelievable :-[
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I am a regumar C user and even if there is a good batch and a bad one I will not take the risk.
The problem is that PF doesn't seems to try is product before buying.
I mean YES it's hard to hear but dealer that don't consume their own gear are the one that make the more money.
For drug conoiseur it's hard to hear but it's the truth.
But the thing is that even if you don't take or taste the product you are selling you always have a friend or someone you know to tell you if you should buy or not a product.
By the past I have sold C and other stuff...
When you go to your source you don't buy without taste or try the product
I mean when PF buy C he doesn't buy 10g
Am I right?
Also PF is not a stupid guy and he proves it as he had a good MDMA business.
So when I used to go to my Rotterdam supplier for a good amount I always try the shit. And by trying I don't mean just snorting a line or put my finger in it then on my gum (make me laugh when they do such a thing in movie...). When you sell C you must know exactly what you are selling. Coz some customer just snort it, other IV and other freebase it. So as I am not a shooter I try a line but also I ask to cook a gram with ammonia or baking soda. And there is no problem with that. Dealer let us doing our test. And the we talk about quantity and prices.
If PF buy something he must know what he buy, as I said he is not stupid.
And the 2 batch theory is weird... coz you know when you have 2 different batches
So if didn't know what he bought and by the way what he sold he must stop C business NOW.
No one buy a Kilo of weak or false C. Or you know it and you do deliberately.
There is a lot of different C. And a lot of way to cut it.
But if you do a wash before buying you know what it is. If you taste it before buyinf you know what you will sell and will able to reply to your customers questions.
I don't believe PF is a stupid guy.
But his silence is playing against him.
If he wants to keep good stat he would better he explain himself here.
Or just STOP this business coz C is very expensive and as user we dont had lot of money to waste
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Hmm if this is true I hope I get the decent batch. :-\
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I also believe there are two batches.. Now, this was the first time I tried "cocaine" but according to experienced users, the effects are definitely lacking. All that happens is that I can focus a bit better and my heart is beating fast. There is no euphoria, only a mild stimulated feeling. Then again, the problem might be me, but seeing that others have had similar experiences, I'm starting to believe that maybe it really is the product that is lacking..
Quite a sad thing, guess I'll be throwing it away. Good thing I didn't order more than 1G. Still, that's almost 100 euros, could've ordered 2Gs of Ketamine or something with that.. Oh well, things like this do happen in the drug scene, can't really bitch about it.
In the future, I seriously recommend you have people to test every single batch. Experienced testers. I don't want to believe that Pf is doing this on purpose since he did so much to keep his customers happy in the MDMA case too. I only lost 100 euros cause of this but I don't even want to guess how much Pf is going to lose.
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this is starting to sound similar to GermanExpress ..
does great at the start , sends legit product, then claims to have a problem
says everything is back to usual and takes more orders, then dissapears
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Hmm if this is true I hope I get the decent batch. :-\
but what if you dont get the decent batch ?
i paid for 25 grams and he isnt even answering my messages now ffs
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Hmm if this is true I hope I get the decent batch. :-\
but what if you dont get the decent batch ?
i paid for 25 grams and he isnt even answering my messages now ffs
Errrr, not sure what to say to that tbh. Obviously I'll be very happy but it's kinda shit for others. Will have to wait and see I guess.
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I also believe there are two batches.. Now, this was the first time I tried "cocaine" but according to experienced users, the effects are definitely lacking. All that happens is that I can focus a bit better and my heart is beating fast. There is no euphoria, only a mild stimulated feeling. Then again, the problem might be me, but seeing that others have had similar experiences, I'm starting to believe that maybe it really is the product that is lacking..
Quite a sad thing, guess I'll be throwing it away. Good thing I didn't order more than 1G. Still, that's almost 100 euros, could've ordered 2Gs of Ketamine or something with that.. Oh well, things like this do happen in the drug scene, can't really bitch about it.
In the future, I seriously recommend you have people to test every single batch. Experienced testers. I don't want to believe that Pf is doing this on purpose since he did so much to keep his customers happy in the MDMA case too. I only lost 100 euros cause of this but I don't even want to guess how much Pf is going to lose.
I threw my gram away too.. I'm hoping for a full refund or a gram of some real c. I don't think it was PF's fault, he seems quite reasonable.
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I also believe there are two batches.. Now, this was the first time I tried "cocaine" but according to experienced users, the effects are definitely lacking. All that happens is that I can focus a bit better and my heart is beating fast. There is no euphoria, only a mild stimulated feeling. Then again, the problem might be me, but seeing that others have had similar experiences, I'm starting to believe that maybe it really is the product that is lacking..
Quite a sad thing, guess I'll be throwing it away. Good thing I didn't order more than 1G. Still, that's almost 100 euros, could've ordered 2Gs of Ketamine or something with that.. Oh well, things like this do happen in the drug scene, can't really bitch about it.
In the future, I seriously recommend you have people to test every single batch. Experienced testers. I don't want to believe that Pf is doing this on purpose since he did so much to keep his customers happy in the MDMA case too. I only lost 100 euros cause of this but I don't even want to guess how much Pf is going to lose.
He doesn't lose anything. He makes huge profit.
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Feel like I'm missing out on the conversation now, my 1g never arrived :'(
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I also believe there are two batches.. Now, this was the first time I tried "cocaine" but according to experienced users, the effects are definitely lacking. All that happens is that I can focus a bit better and my heart is beating fast. There is no euphoria, only a mild stimulated feeling. Then again, the problem might be me, but seeing that others have had similar experiences, I'm starting to believe that maybe it really is the product that is lacking..
Quite a sad thing, guess I'll be throwing it away. Good thing I didn't order more than 1G. Still, that's almost 100 euros, could've ordered 2Gs of Ketamine or something with that.. Oh well, things like this do happen in the drug scene, can't really bitch about it.
In the future, I seriously recommend you have people to test every single batch. Experienced testers. I don't want to believe that Pf is doing this on purpose since he did so much to keep his customers happy in the MDMA case too. I only lost 100 euros cause of this but I don't even want to guess how much Pf is going to lose.
I threw my gram away too.. I'm hoping for a full refund or a gram of some real c. I don't think it was PF's fault, he seems quite reasonable.
has he got back to you ? because he hasnt even read my messages yet
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I also believe there are two batches.. Now, this was the first time I tried "cocaine" but according to experienced users, the effects are definitely lacking. All that happens is that I can focus a bit better and my heart is beating fast. There is no euphoria, only a mild stimulated feeling. Then again, the problem might be me, but seeing that others have had similar experiences, I'm starting to believe that maybe it really is the product that is lacking..
Quite a sad thing, guess I'll be throwing it away. Good thing I didn't order more than 1G. Still, that's almost 100 euros, could've ordered 2Gs of Ketamine or something with that.. Oh well, things like this do happen in the drug scene, can't really bitch about it.
In the future, I seriously recommend you have people to test every single batch. Experienced testers. I don't want to believe that Pf is doing this on purpose since he did so much to keep his customers happy in the MDMA case too. I only lost 100 euros cause of this but I don't even want to guess how much Pf is going to lose.
Those effects sound exactly like speed. I know this because I got to try speed pills from Mr. Ouid that were called ICE pills. There was the slightest euphoria when the effects kicked in, but it never peaks and you just get strung out. Focused and thats it...
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Pfandleiher, are you going to answer the messages i sent you on silk road about the shitty coke you sold me, or are you just going to keep ignoring me as if nothing happened, very poor customer service
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Hmm I really hope I get the alright stuff, I bought 5g. :-\
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hope you do too mate as if you get the bad stuff he will just no want to know, i have been messaging him for day now and he wont even read my messages, he just doesnt want to know, with all the money he has made from us you think he would care about his customers, but it seems he doesnt give a fuck.
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He did say he was out today somewhere on the thread I think? He might have just left his computer on or something.
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ill give him the benefit of doubt, we shall see if he gets back to me, but seems he doesnt care, not great customer service, lol
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I don' t order from him and I am not a competitor seller.
I mean I have no interested at all in this.
But I sincerely sympathized with Sara and other who get bad C.
So I don't know if he has "left his computer on or something" but the thing is he has answered to customer on his other thread.
He answers when he decides and with the people he decides to talk with
So he has enough time to answer to people who buy MDMA... but no time at all for those who lost money.
It's really not fair.
As I said in a other post he is not a stupid guy and he knows exactly what he is doing.
He remove old C listing from his page, change the description name (no more "flakes" in it)
So as a new customer if you are on his C product page you can't read the negatives feedback which concerned the shitty C he sold.
So he remove some listing on purpose.
He still have 99% satisfaction so why he should do something.
I don't think he will do anything to resolve this issues (hope I'm wrong).
He still have customers, he still has good stats and may be his new C batch is high Quality so he will keep his good feedback.
The ratio of dissatisfied consumers is too low compared to many positives transactions without problems.
So it's clearly unfair but as he said himself on his page "this is the game"
Really hope I'm wrong but he has no interested to start public explanations on those pages
He would have already done I think
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Pfandleiher just got cheated out of 10kg of mdma or something and has a HUUGGGEE backlog on his MDMA orders, also he says he has over 700 messages of people asking the same questions, so he probably isnt going to reply to your messages until he is back to normal.
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Hi,
I have just received 1g of C from PF (as usual very quickly), but I have no experience with C, so I am asking you: Do you have any suggestions how to "test" it?
I don't want to get high right now, but a little bit won't be a problem.
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bulshit, he has been on the forum today talking about mdma, he must have seen all these posts and the messages ive sent him, he knows exactly what he is doing, all i can say is i will wait patiently, but he needs to sort this out asap, he knows about the shitty mdma he sent out so why does he not say something about the shitty coke he sent out too
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i received 1 gram of his c last thursday... i am not a coke specialist, but what i received made me 2 fantastic days, with all effects i was expecting to have from coke...
maybe that's just because i'm not a every day freebase smoker, or IV shooter... BUT I LIKED IT!!
sara, i'm kinda sorry for you as i can understand that you are pissed for not receiving what you wanted to, but ordering 25 g without trying first is not the cleverest act, to be honest...
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i suppose its not, but he assured me it was top quality stuff and i have ordered from him before, freebase and mdma,
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yeah,
very difficult to resist when a seller with perfect reputation say "you can buy its perfect product"
i have advertise PF that the coke business wasn't the same as MDMA and be a perfect C dealer is difficult....
i trust in PF, he is a real legend here.....
wait and see
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yeah, i will wait and see, i have faith in him as well as he has always been a good vendor,
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Got some of his C....definitely not like any C i've had. Gave one person horrible anxiety...stuffed both of us up the next day something terrible. No euphoria. Smelt like C should....but just speeds you up, etc. Not sure what to do.
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oh fuck fuck fuckedy fuck!!! This is really sounding bad now!! When a reputable vendor tells you its flake cocaine AWESOME SHIT you see pics of gorgeous product off buyers, people biggin it up....He says its same batch so thats why I ordered....That's why Sara was prepared to spend ALOT of money with him along with having great transactions with him before....I think mine should be here tomorrow or day after so I'll still wait and see still but man oh man it dont sound promising.....
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oh fuck fuck fuckedy fuck!!! This is really sounding bad now!! When a reputable vendor tells you its flake cocaine AWESOME SHIT you see pics of gorgeous product off buyers, people biggin it up....He says its same batch so thats why I ordered....That's why Sara was prepared to spend ALOT of money with him along with having great transactions with him before....I think mine should be here tomorrow or day after so I'll still wait and see still but man oh man it dont sound promising.....
i forgot to say a few posts up, that i got exactly that stuff that was shown on that on picture!
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yeah that stuff looked like the bomb!! im not surprised you were really happy with that!! The deal is, and has now been confirmed by Pfand that he has had two batches or maybe more now. Obviously the first one was AWESOME SHIT as described, but it seems people getting this other batch are really not happy and it can't be that they are all wrong on this!!
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got my yay from pf 4 days after placing order (EU)
Opened it up and it stank,really really strong smelling yay,,i think another member previously described it as smelling like nail polish remover,anyway tried a tiny little line and within 10 mins was really buzzing,heart racing etc,not what i normally get from good yay if that makes sense,it was just too intense for the tiny amount i took,anyway left it alone until 2 days ago,shoved a fat line up my nostril and was completely fucked for about 2 hours,,deffo not a yay buzz,not sure what this is,im certain theres coke in there but what esle im not sure,,not the greatest deal at all
please someone in the eu step up and start vending some quality bing,the demand is there but no product
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welcome to the club !
;)
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Just received my order from Pfandleiher...
Great stealthy packaging, smells like a hydrochloride, absolutely no fish scales, but quite pebble-y.
Have a lot of work to do, and won't be able to try it for another 2 weeks, and I'm a little concerned after reading the last 2 pages :(
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and still no reply from Pfandleiher about his bad coke
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No reply from PF, but from an other user yes.
I put his message here because his reply concern PF coke
So its better his reply be here and not in the official thread.
If you think some coke that you buy is cut with something else then do some tests on it. I'm tired of seeing so many fucking people complaining and they haven't even tested their coke.
And cocaine makes your heart race dude. It's a stimulant. That's what stimulants do. Amphetamines do also. Their effects aren't exactly the same but they share many similar effects. It seems a lot of people don't even know what they should be looking for. And Costello you sure seem to get a lot of full refunds. You wouldn't know what good coke was if it jumped up and bit you you fucking idiot. Go ahead and neg me all you want but you're scum and a scam buyer and a fucking disgrace to this community. Everybody knows you're refund rate is not 0%. You are pathetic. Sorry for posting that on this thread rem0ved but everybody needs to know about him.
What does people who receive the "bad" coke think about theory of dondada ?
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I 100% agree with the 'batches change, way of the world' sentiment Pf speaks of. Same with any dealer.
However, this is what disappointed me I guess. I thought SR would be different after a solid few months of having mainly good luck and only few selective scams (my tip for you all: if somebody says they are out of stock... get your money back.... I have a feeling they forget about the people who were waiting after their stock ran out... especially if you are in a country where it is plausible that your order will be seized by customs... Not that is ever does... because the orders keep on coming to the same address without a hitch) Seems it is easier to accept losing your order over getting garbage. cough cough AfterHours/TheStore.
I always expect bullshit listings from dealers ...they have to get rid of the garbage they bought... fair enough. It just isn't fun 1. when it is you are the expense of shit product 2. a seller who you thought you could rely on defying a life long circle jerk of drug deals.
Really hope there is a reliable tester on SR soon. gobsmacked by AWESOME FLAKE COCAINE!!! listing from a dude who is awesome. What a huge turn off. I know all of the people above... probably 25 y.o know they were stung.
And anyway, I tested it. But this shouldn't matter. users test it in their blood stream. It is the most reliable test :)
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just sent pf and the admin pms about cancelling the order i just made (before reading this thread) damn, i was really looking forward to it.
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I am also waiting on a reply for an item that has not arrived, no love letter either. I have messaged Pf a couple of times and await their response to sort things out. I will keep everyone updated in this thread.
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Anyone tried most recent batch of C?
Seems lots of mixed reviews and have been lurking all threads, hard to get a clear picture - hence wondered if anyone else had received recently and what the quality was like?
Gracias
NM1
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Anyone tried most recent batch of C?
Seems lots of mixed reviews and have been lurking all threads, hard to get a clear picture - hence wondered if anyone else had received recently and what the quality was like?
Gracias
NM1
i think the better solution when there is mixed review its you buy 1g and you test it...
after you put a review here...
what do you think ?
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Yeah I got some c today. . Just tried a line nice buzzy stuff man half a bottle of wine .. Buzzin my tits off
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Yeah I got some c today. . Just tried a line nice buzzy stuff man half a bottle of wine .. Buzzin my tits off
yeah, but is it coke ? have you done any tests on it ?
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I got mine off him last night and I got none of the effects that people had described. It was a really nice mellow high and nothing speedy or anythin about it. il copy n paste my review here as I put it in coke forum v 2.0....be up in a bit, gotta mission first! ;)
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I received my c today good stuff I week turnaround . Well happy
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Yeah I got some c today. . Just tried a line nice buzzy stuff man half a bottle of wine .. Buzzin my tits off
yeah, but is it coke ? have you done any tests on it ?
Not tested it but it's Coke .. Very pure deffo . What makes you think it isn't?
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not sure its the same batch as i got, i tested mine, bleach test, snorting and cooked up with ammonia, no coke in it, just some synthetic crap that made me buzz my ass off, can be very deceiving and hard to tell its not coke, is there a strong smell from it ?
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not sure its the same batch as i got, i tested mine, bleach test, snorting and cooked up with ammonia, no coke in it, just some synthetic crap that made me buzz my ass off, can be very deceiving and hard to tell its not coke, is there a strong smell from it ?
Do you think it might be mdvp . Coz i am buzzin my ass off . I have heard that feels like coke .
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not sure its the same batch as i got, i tested mine, bleach test, snorting and cooked up with ammonia, no coke in it, just some synthetic crap that made me buzz my ass off, can be very deceiving and hard to tell its not coke, is there a strong smell from it ?
Oh and it smells like coke ...
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It's not MDPV... I've already acetone washed it, It's coke... Sorry sara, but you must have had a duff batch! MDPV is a horrible high, you'd know it if you'd had it!
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yeah, was thinking i got a different batch,
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It's not MDPV... I've already acetone washed it, It's coke... Sorry sara, but you must have had a duff batch! MDPV is a horrible high, you'd know it if you'd had it!
Yeah it's good coke Strong I got a good batch .. Have you tried mdvp ? . Only seen it on SR
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yeah, was thinking i got a different batch,
Do you do a lot of coke? .. Only we had some last year that was tested 90% and it was very similar . Really buzzy especially with booze ...but a couple of my mates said they thought it wasn't coke.
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doing it for over 20 years
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I've been unfortunate enough to have tried mdvp on a couple of occasions now.. Good coke does not make you rush, I always wash my coke too!
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I wrote this in the new cocaine forum last night whilst under the influence of the coke with a lil added editing today:
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Ohhhhh and by the way....I received off Pfand today and I'm extremely happy to say I did a couple of small lines and no jitteryness, no clench jaw, no speedyness, no mustard smell. This is nice coke that looked like the picture did that I saw off a buyer last week or so and has given me a nice buzz, smelt like coke though not over-powering and gave a slow numbing of the back of my throat from the drip. I'm gonna wash half of it along with a G of Cloud Surfers when it arrives, obviously I'll wash them separately and let you guys know the result.
Pfandleiher Review:
Comms: N/A no communication required but was put in transit quickly
Shipping & Stealth: Ship time 5/5.......Came in very prompt time, in fact the quickest delivery off SR yet, ordered saturday, came wednesday!! 5/5 Stealth...It was good, did the job but you wouldn't want anyone else opening ya letter! But outside fascia blends in ok with printed labels n vac seal. What more can you want for a gram order??
Weight: 5/5 1.00g on the nail
Quality: 5/5!!!! I was really worried about this one with all the bad reviews going out just after I ordered but I'm pleased to say that it was the good batch I received!!! :) Definitely not shit!!!! Was oily in texture and smelt of great unwashed coke. Was stuck in flat clumps due to vac seal and would need a hot plate to chop it to optimum insufflation consistency. I had no heavy heart beat and I was feeling extremely chatty, though I was home alone and no-one on the forum, I was typing away like mad!!! After 4 lil lines and a couple of hours of nice buzziness, I ate some food and slept like a baby!!!! No junk in my nose this morning from crappy cuts. I'm really happy after my initial worry.
Overall: 5/5 I'm really happy as I was prepared for the worst but this will teach me to wait until I get my stuff before passing judgement again as what I receive may be different to what others have.
Sorry for those who didn't get what they wanted but I want to say sorry to Pfand for doubting though it was hard not to of, with the shit flying about. I'm on a nice mellow high right now with none of the bad symptoms the other guys have got.
Cloud Surfer up next!! :) that and some other goodies should be here in next day or so...should be a great few weekends coming up!!!
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I wrote this in the new cocaine forum last night whilst under the influence of the coke with a lil added editing today:
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Ohhhhh and by the way....I received off Pfand today and I'm extremely happy to say I did a couple of small lines and no jitteryness, no clench jaw, no speedyness, no mustard smell. This is nice coke that looked like the picture did that I saw off a buyer last week or so and has given me a nice buzz, smelt like coke though not over-powering and gave a slow numbing of the back of my throat from the drip. I'm gonna wash half of it along with a G of Cloud Surfers when it arrives, obviously I'll wash them separately and let you guys know the result.
Pfandleiher Review:
Comms: N/A no communication required but was put in transit quickly
Shipping & Stealth: Ship time 5/5.......Came in very prompt time, in fact the quickest delivery off SR yet, ordered saturday, came wednesday!! 5/5 Stealth...It was good, did the job but you wouldn't want anyone else opening ya letter! But outside fascia blends in ok with printed labels n vac seal. What more can you want for a gram order??
Quality: 5/5!!!! I was really worried about this one with all the bad reviews going out just after I ordered but I'm pleased to say that it was the good batch I received!!! :) Definitely not shit!!!! Was oily in texture and smelt of great unwashed coke. Was stuck in flat clumps due to vac seal and would need a hot plate to chop it to optimum insufflation consistency. I had no heavy heart beat and I was feeling extremely chatty, though I was home alone and no-one on the forum, I was typing away like mad!!! After 4 lil lines and a couple of hours of nice buzziness, I ate some food and slept like a baby!!!! No junk in my nose this morning from crappy cuts. I'm really happy after my initial worry.
Overall: 5/5 I'm really happy as I was prepared for the worst but this will teach me to wait until I get my stuff before passing judgement again as what I receive may be different to what others have.
Sorry for those who didn't get what they wanted but I want to say sorry to Pfand for doubting though it was hard not to of, with the shit flying about. I'm on a nice mellow high right now with none of the bad symptoms the other guys have got.
Cloud Surfer up next!! :) that and some other goodies should be here in next day or so...should be a great few weekends coming up!!!
Spot on . Couldn't have said it better .
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Sara + Costello your the only 2 person that be *claimed* a other batch( after someone says it not good there always be people that will reply it with the same but where are the BAD FEEDBACKS at his FEEDBACKS? first came COSTELLO but this guy always scream that everything is shit never see a revieuw from you that you claimed that its good ?|
Why you don make a SELLERS ACCOUNT then put the stuff up you always can get better stuff then all seller over here ?
so stop screaming that its not good the batch is tested at 81% + 3% Undeclared stuff so no speed or other products
I have sell allot over SR but there are always some people that scream the batch is not good,
Even if you sell 100% stuff people do it that a reason i stop with selling international ,
Greats Dutchaanbod
Greats Dutchaanbod
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Possibly run out of gear? No point listing stuff you don't have (if your not scamming), I believe that SR policy; ship within 3 days of order.
If a vendor doesn't do this, causes a shit storm of people complaining.
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Sara + Costello your the only 2 person that be *claimed* a other batch( after someone says it not good there always be people that will reply it with the same but where are the BAD FEEDBACKS at his FEEDBACKS? first came COSTELLO but this guy always scream that everything is shit never see a revieuw from you that you claimed that its good ?|
Why you don make a SELLERS ACCOUNT then put the stuff up you always can get better stuff then all seller over here ?
so stop screaming that its not good the batch is tested at 81% + 3% Undeclared stuff so no speed or other products
I have sell allot over SR but there are always some people that scream the batch is not good,
Even if you sell 100% stuff people do it that a reason i stop with selling international ,
Greats Dutchaanbod
Greats Dutchaanbod
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what i got contained no Cocaine
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what i got def wasnt coke, it has been tested
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I know I will be vilified for negative comments here as well, no matter how many times I say I Love Pfandleiher as a vendor!
I tested his very first batch hot off the press whilst listed within days. It contains no cocaine. I did bleach tests, I cooked it, chloroform and acetone washed it after rinsing through warm water to return to HCL. I am a serious junkie with serious skills due to my professional career and I have no reason for bias! ( If I was getting free blow as a shill I wouldn't be a very good shill! :) )I will still buy through good times and bad to see if I can get a buzz off ANYTHING (VICKS VAPOR RUB!!!!!) . Because drug quality is like the stock exchange. Good times... bad times! Hey! Even Hells Angels probably get a few bricks of caines + creatine they overlook from time to time. I really don't know about that end of the business.
If you thought it was good...good for you, I really wish I could say the same...If you thought it wasn't good / coke at all, I AGREE!
What I need to know is what tests are used to determine these metrics of +70% cocaine!? I really need to know, because methods I use which are quite reliable do NOT show the results that are being posted here like they are fact from ANY vendors cocaine on SR. I work as a chemical engineer in pharmaceuticals. So please, enlighten me with your techniques. I will be able to understand them irrespective of the technicality and will be swayed to believe if there is any tangible evidence. I am also interested to hear from people who washed or tested their coke here on SR (the people who know that an acetone LR test might not reduce the quantity very much due to contaminants such as creatine/eph...)
I repeat: I dont CARE what the fuck you list as vendors, I will always buy it , cook it, wash it and try it to have some fun! But I am going cross eyed here reading that Costello/Sara/DrSork are 'wrong' when I am quite certain they are correct. Because even after this preparation: NO FUN WAS HAD!
I fucking hate the witch hunts on this forums. Fucking grow up. Discussion is healthy .
"Even if you sell 100% stuff people do it that a reason i stop with selling international" - I know this is probably hyperbole to make your point (im sure international SR of C was a nightmare and understand your actions...100% :) ) , but the only 100% cocaine hydrochloride comes from major pharmaceutical companies labs with amazing power supplies and 100% sterile environments (reads: probably not from the SA cartels in the jungle)
Instinct is still the best test though. Nobody rails or whacks up 70%+ coke and will look you in the eye saying its garbage. No one!
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i bought from PF.
It was shit.
It came in a little baggy and was solid. had to break it up, was very hard. ended up breaking it up in the bag as much as i could. then putting the rocks out on a piece of glass and using a razor to cut it up. very long process. trying to use a credit card or similar just resulted in the rocks flying across the room.
In any case bumped a fair bit around .1 and no euphoria, just jittery speedy heart racing and jaw clenching type effects. Very light numbing when placing on tongue and lips.
Nose not numbed at all even after bumping .1
In short i wouldn't order from PF or dutchabod again.
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fuck, i dont know what to think. i hope those with the dud claims are lying, i dont want to shit on anyone without knowing the full facts
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review for Pfandleihers coke -
shipping: 4/5. was in processing for 2 days, and then once in transit took 6 days from Germany to UK. probably 2 days processing due to Pf's backlog, and 6 days in transit due the the shitty postal service in the UK, so not really his fault.
packaging: 5/5. good stealth. i knew what it was because i've been clucking for it, but your average joe blow wouldn't be any the wiser
weight: 5/5 bang on 1.00 gram
comms: N/A - didn't contact at all, no need to
the product: 5/5. good typical strong unwashed cocaine. opening the pack immediately released a strong cocaine smell, but also smelt of acetone. nice shiny bright white lumps, soft and a tiny bit oily, easy to break up the lumps but not so easy to crush really fine for a line - definitely needs hot plating if you're not putting it through a wash yourself. had a big line to start with, probably 100-150mg. no burn at all going up even with this sized line. slow onset of numbing, my front teeth were pretty numb after 5 - 10 minutes but this is my first bit of decent gear in a month so the numbing would be stronger than if i was doing my usual every weekend thing. nice build up of euphoria, peaking after about 15-20 minutes. talked the gf's ears off for a good couple of hours til she got pissed off with my incessant babble and fucked off to bed
as per typical unwashed cocaine (for me anyway) it did make me fiend for it, had another line after about 40 minutes even though i knew i didn't need one. made me smoke and drink like a bastard as well - did 8 cans of lager and 10 fags in about 3 hours which is heavy going for me, unless i'm tooting. had a right old gurn, and had a good stare at everything. unwashed coke always gives me bulging eyeballs and gives me that jaw thing. got to sleep pretty easy, but that could be the amount of booze i got through.
washed 0.65 in acetone. it's drying as i'm writing this and i'll report back with the result, but it's looking like most of it's still there.
overall one happy bunny :) wasn't sure what to expect after all this talk of mustard and two batches, but i'm happy with this and would order from pfand again
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Mine is pretty much the same as above.... Pretty satisfied with PF's coke!!
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I am also waiting on a reply for an item that has not arrived, no love letter either. I have messaged Pf a couple of times and await their response to sort things out. I will keep everyone updated in this thread.
Still no reply to my missing item....
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I just popped on to update. Got mine today, just did 3 lines. We shall wait and see....
Only gripe so far is I think the packaging could be improved. I don't really wana sit around scratching the shit off the vac seal, should be in a zippy and then in a vac seal IMO but that is minor really.
Quality is spot on. I'm very happy and it's put my worries completely to bed over the whole "crap batch thing". It's more numbing than I expected but the onset is nice and rapid. I have to say as well that unlike some of the stuff I have had from Dutchaan before doing 3 decent sized lines (probably totaling around the 150-200mg mark) I don't feel skittish like I have done a couple of times on Dutchaan's product before. If Pfand is getting his stuff off Dutchaan (which is what I think everyone is assuming but really is their business) this is definitely some of the best I have had that's come from Dutchaan so definite kudos for that.
Anyway all in all I am very happy with everything and it's definitely put my concerns over receiving bad product to bed and I'll definitely be a return customer. Only bad side was the processing time was a bit slow but as a vendor myself I know that this is completely understandable and I would have preferred it to be in a zippy and then vac-sealed. However apart from that great product and decent shipping time. A well deserved 5/5.
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This is my first post on the forum, so I'm probably not credible. But I received the mustard "coke" (not coke) from Pf, too. It was in a baggy, with another vac seal baggie around it, so I assume it was not packaged like what limetless received. There seem to be two batches indeed... Maybe one needs forum reputation to get the good one?
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doubt it mate, i don't have the same username on the Road. think it's just your bad luck TBH
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This is my first post on the forum, so I'm probably not credible. But I received the mustard "coke" (not coke) from Pf, too. It was in a baggy, with another vac seal baggie around it, so I assume it was not packaged like what limetless received. There seem to be two batches indeed... Maybe one needs forum reputation to get the good one?
That ain't how it works mate and I wouldn't accept back-handers or preferential treatment if it was offered either and I am pretty certain none of the other Mods/Staff would either. That shit is unethical.
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Ha, unless Limetless is a complete fool, I highly doubt Pfand knew he was sending it to him!
This is all very confusing. I've got BTC just waiting to buy some coke, but every time I log in there's more controversy about some person's coke being great, then it's shit, then it's back the other way around again, next there's multiple batches, then it smells good, then bad.
Maybe I'll just keep watching and in the meantime buy some drone.
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Maybe I'll just keep watching and in the meantime buy some drone.
LOL, play it safe mate, best way. although i reckon after this shit pfand and cloud surfer have been through i reckon they'd both be a safe bet - their names have been tarred so they're gonna wanna make amends
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mannnn what the hell! now everyone is receiving real cocaine, why am I always the one that ends up with the shitty speedy crap mustard smell shite! so annoying, one of the first people to purchase a gram from PF too.
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Sara + Costello your the only 2 person that be *claimed* a other batch( after someone says it not good there always be people that will reply it with the same but where are the BAD FEEDBACKS at his FEEDBACKS? first came COSTELLO but this guy always scream that everything is shit never see a revieuw from you that you claimed that its good ?|
Why you don make a SELLERS ACCOUNT then put the stuff up you always can get better stuff then all seller over here ?
so stop screaming that its not good the batch is tested at 81% + 3% Undeclared stuff so no speed or other products
I have sell allot over SR but there are always some people that scream the batch is not good,
Even if you sell 100% stuff people do it that a reason i stop with selling international ,
Greats Dutchaanbod
Greats Dutchaanbod
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PF and dutch are both fantastic vendors, which is why I make purchases as an honest buyer, but to receive this stuff which clearly is not cocaine really gets to me. This stuff is not cheap! I am not the only one who didn't receive your real cocaine, there are many others.
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If there's one thing the Road has taught me it's patience :-\
Ah, yes... Good lesson to learn though, patience can really keep you from fucking yourself over in frustration
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Oh wow. I literally JUST placed an order for 1g of C with Pfandleiher, I should have done more research. :(
I had a great experience with one coke vendor (who no longer sells cocaine) and I jumped the gun and trusted too quickly. From what I read, Dutch and PF had quality shit. Now I feel like an idiot. I really want to cancel and put my BTC with another vendor, but I don't think there's a way to.
I guess I just wait and hope for some good batch C.
Sorry to all who were ripped off. I hope PF will make it right with you. If not, hopefully SR will intervene here. ughh I wish there were more knowledgable RELIABLE coke vendors on SR. PM me if you know anyone.
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Sara + Costello your the only 2 person that be *claimed* a other batch( after someone says it not good there always be people that will reply it with the same but where are the BAD FEEDBACKS at his FEEDBACKS? first came COSTELLO but this guy always scream that everything is shit never see a revieuw from you that you claimed that its good ?|
Greats Dutchaanbod
EZ Dutch
Actually, although I am happy with my stuff, I have seen many more people than just the two guys you mention here that are unhappy. I don't see how our opinions can differ so greatly unless it is a different batch as I have followed Sara's posts and she knows what she is talking about from what I can gather.
The reason no-one can see bad feedback for Pfand on his page is because he removed the listings, thus removing the comments and feedback for those items, then re-listed it saying that ''no-one better complain here or else ;)'' I know he says as a joke but still.....
I personally had a great transaction and I'm really happy with the gear I've got, but I don't think this is fabricated by those people as they all describe similar effects and smells of mustard etc....It is odd if they all provide this same review and also Pfand has said that he has got through at least TWO batches and that is from the man himself. It really had me worried all these comments but myself and a few of my forum buddies all ordered and we are all super happy with the stuff & service we have received with Pfand and I will certainly buy off him again while Dutchaanbod is not serving beyond NL borders.....
I hope things get sorted as best they can......for vendor and unhappy buyers.
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i cant tell you how gutting it would be to get the shit batch. just have to wait and see...
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so the latest batch is safe to order?
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so the latest batch is safe to order?
I think you have to order 1g and provide a full review for the SR cocaine community :D
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My 1g coke order was marked in transit today (order placed on the 6th, so not a bad turnaround time at all!)
Will be sure to write an honest review when I receive. :) I'm not a pro when it comes to this stuff, so you'll be hearing what a casual user thinks about it. I reallyyy hope it's good shit so I can place a real order, there are no good consistent coke dealers on SR right now.
Don't wanna get my hopes up, but it looks like PF is getting his stuff under control again! Seems like he just got fucked over (sold some shitty product, then got overwhelmed with backlash) ....I really feel for sara though, that's a HUGE investment to make and be left with shitty product. Hope you're taking it to the RC and it gets worked out asap.
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I received a 1g order today. I'm happy to report that it is the "good batch".
Transit was slower than I've come to expect from PF but still arrived in a reasonable time frame. The packaging was good. The product was in a baggie within a vacuum seal so none was lost. It weighed in at 1.00g on the nose.
The coke had quite a strong smell that can only describe as "coke-like". It certainly wasn't mustard-y. The product is quite white with a slight opalescent shine. Most of it is clumped and pressed together. It took a fair bit of razor work to break it into a fine powder and it felt soft when I was cutting it.
I don't have the means of testing the purity of the cocaine but did have an Mandelin test on hand. Among other things, this test indicates the presence of amphetamines. It revealed no reaction, suggesting that if it's cut, it's not with speed.
I sampled approximately .06 grams. There was very little burn. I felt a fairly strong euphoria within ten minutes and experienced a medium-strong numbing in my teeth. I had no racing heart, jaw clenching or other speedy effects. To me, this feels very much like coke. It is certainly better quality than the street product in my area but I can't speak to it's overall potency.
I know there has been a lot of controversy and I don't doubt the negative experiences other users have had. I'm happy with my transaction and with the quality of the product, but maybe I lucked out with a good batch. That being said, the issue of varying quality between batches will make me think twice before ordering from PF again.
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Received my 2gr today. It seems to have the same good quality, like i had in the past.
Weight was on the point this time. Processing time and transit was fine for me, knowing he has/had a lot of work to do.
So everything is fine to me, and i am def going to order again from him.
Now i am looking forward to the Weekend :)
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Where is Pfand's listings gone? I want some more Rip.
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Ok guys. Got my gram of flake and here's my review:
Product took a little bit to get to me, but was due to the aftermath of PF's massive backlog.
The packaging was secure and well-handled.
As for the product now. I've had fishscale before, but I honestly think that PF's is better than that, which was a highly notable local staple. Let me break it down like this:
----No speedy amphetamine feeling and I know VERY well what that is like
----No nose clogging at all...none...that speaks for itself.
----It's unwashed and smells of a heavy nail polish remover
----Did about 3 to 4 decent-sized lines and had me going hard, not like a speed, but just a burst of primal energy.
----Of such a potency that it endured nearly 3 days of heavy use between multiple people, granted we aren't addicts.
----Very mushy and "wet" which made it easy as hell to break up, a VERY good sign
----Highly potent numbing. Got my mouth totally numb just from a dip. Couldn't feel my face yaked lol
In all, you get what you pay for and I would highly recommend this C for anyone looking for quality coke!
5/5
--------Lain
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My first post as I forgot my password to my normal user now but what ever, I only had 6 posts or so.
So I bought some cocaine from Pfandleiher. It slow numbs, but for a longer time than usual, and it does not give any strong euphoria, more so a speedy anxiety feeling and super trouble sleeping all though not speedy for more than 40 minutes.
I did a chlorine test and it went ok, long white strings going to the bottom after about 5 second (or less) and just a little bit colorless stuff floating on top whereas the shit on the bottom turning brownish/amber, being oily and I have to wash the glass with the help of my fingers.
So what the heck is this shit I got? ProCaine with what RC? Why is not PFandLeiher answering any mails? May it be me just not reacting well to cocaine anymore or are we getting ripped off?
Sara: did you do any tests with yours yet? Did you try cleaing it?
http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=93262 <--- some guides to test purity and washing
Edit: 90% sure it is 5-MeO-MiPT or MDPV
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My first post as I forgot my password to my normal user now but what ever, I only had 6 posts or so.
So I bought some cocaine from Pfandleiher. It slow numbs, but for a longer time than usual, and it does not give any strong euphoria, more so a speedy anxiety feeling and super trouble sleeping all though not speedy for more than 40 minutes.
I did a chlorine test and it went ok, long white strings going to the bottom after about 5 second (or less) and just a little bit colorless stuff floating on top whereas the shit on the bottom turning brownish/amber, being oily and I have to wash the glass with the help of my fingers.
So what the heck is this shit I got? ProCaine with what RC? Why is not PFandLeiher answering any mails? May it be me just not reacting well to cocaine anymore or are we getting ripped off?
Sara: did you do any tests with yours yet? Did you try cleaing it?
http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=93262 <--- some guides to test purity and washing
sounds like you got the same fake coke I got, what does your gram smell like?
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sounds like you got the same fake coke I got, what does your gram smell like?
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Acetone kinda smell, will smell will be in your nose a long time after snorted.
EDIT: Moderators I really do not like being selectively scammed by some amateur, can you please quarantine pfandleiher till he solves this mess? It is shit he is allowed to continue this
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sounds like you got the same fake coke I got, what does your gram smell like?
Acetone kinda smell, will smell will be in your nose a long time after snorted.
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If it has a mustard like smell to it, it's the same batch I got. I'm still waiting on a refund! chucked the shite out after one line!
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sounds like you got the same fake coke I got, what does your gram smell like?
Acetone kinda smell, will smell will be in your nose a long time after snorted.
If it has a mustard like smell to it, it's the same batch I got. I'm still waiting on a refund! chucked the shite out after one line!
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YES it does smell like mustard when you say it. Little amateur should be banned if he does not take care of his fuck ups. Should probably throw out mine as well, total shit
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Moriz.. Orange residue on the bottom of indicates the presents of Lidocaine... All coke will leave some oily residue (Due to the production methods) - Do an pure acetone wash, your results already rule out there is no speed in it... I think you'll be surprised at what you have left in your filter paper... And how the fuck can you tell if you've some RC in it from a bleach test?? Seriously!
If your going to run these tests, at least read up on them properly, not from the dickheads on that stupid link! They're kids, playing at grown-ups!
Read the Cocaine Handbook by David Lee.. It'll tell you everything you need....
And what does it smell of? Acetone or mustard??
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Moriz.. Orange residue on the bottom of indicates the presents of Lidocaine... All coke will leave some oily residue (Due to the production methods) - Do an pure acetone wash, your results already rule out there is no speed in it... I think you'll be surprised at what you have left in your filter paper... And how the fuck can you tell if you've some RC in it from a bleach test?? Seriously!
If your going to run these tests, at least read up on them properly, not from the dickheads on that stupid link! They're kids, playing at grown-ups!
Read the Cocaine Handbook by David Lee.. It'll tell you everything you need....
And what does it smell of? Acetone or mustard??
It is not cocaine anyway and it does smell like mustard I just did not think about mustard first. I can post that shit to anybody right now who got authority enough and know cocaine enough to prove my point and make pfandleiher do right.
EDIT: And why do I think it is an RC, cause it feel just like a shitty RC
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Moriz.. Orange residue on the bottom of indicates the presents of Lidocaine... All coke will leave some oily residue (Due to the production methods) - Do an pure acetone wash, your results already rule out there is no speed in it... I think you'll be surprised at what you have left in your filter paper... And how the fuck can you tell if you've some RC in it from a bleach test?? Seriously!
If your going to run these tests, at least read up on them properly, not from the dickheads on that stupid link! They're kids, playing at grown-ups!
Read the Cocaine Handbook by David Lee.. It'll tell you everything you need....
And what does it smell of? Acetone or mustard??
It is not cocaine anyway and it does smell like mustard I just did not think about mustard first. I can post that shit to anybody right now who got authority enough and know cocaine enough to prove my point and make pfandleiher do right.
EDIT: And why do I think it is an RC, cause it feel just like a shitty RC
several people received this stuff, it's basically imitation coke. one buyer purchased 25 grams of this mustard smelling stuff and is an experienced user of coke, think they're being refunded now, which I am trying to get aswell. Don't think pfandleiher was aware of this batch being bunk.
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Hmmm very interesting PF. Bit concerning you are not replying to messages. As I initially told you, stopping communication just adds to the buyers frustration.
Can you please tell the community how you intend to fix this debacle?
I personally don't believe that there was any intention to scam. I believe it is a case of PF potentially being shafted sideways.
Everyone needs to relax and given his prior Stella rep, he deserves an opportunity to fix the wrong.
So PF its now over to you. Since I have been so calm and patient (which clearly is out of character) I think putting me at the top of your list would be greatly appreciated! Considering I didn't take you calling me a scammer personally. ;)
Looking forward to your appearance.....
Hoffa
*yes Lim I am under heavy sedation :P
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I was just gunna say Hof that was quite restrained lol.
Not trying to take one side or another here but I seriously doubt Pfand tried to fuck anyone on purpose it was obvious just a blip. I ordered 5g from Pfand and what I got was stellar quality and came out at 80% and I've ordered more. If people have got good product from here on in clearly it was just a blip that has been resolved. I understand why those who suffered the blip are pissed but calling Pfand a scammer or whatever is just silly IMO.
Anyway that's just how I see it.
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I've posted earlier about Pfandleiher's bad mustard-smelling coke (as 5678, forgot password). Just wanted to say he came back to me after I messaged him on SR and we're talking about compensation... From what I can tell he's trying to make things right. I hope it'll work out, well he expressed his good will, so I'm getting more positive about the situation.
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I was just gunna say Hof that was quite restrained lol.
Not trying to take one side or another here but I seriously doubt Pfand tried to fuck anyone on purpose it was obvious just a blip. I ordered 5g from Pfand and what I got was stellar quality and came out at 80% and I've ordered more. If people have got good product from here on in clearly it was just a blip that has been resolved. I understand why those who suffered the blip are pissed but calling Pfand a scammer or whatever is just silly IMO.
Anyway that's just how I see it.
Did you not order about the same time as me? My order was "shipped: June 30, 2012". Pfandleiher did not get back to me but if he does everything will be forgiven if he handles it right. What worries me is that I suspect some get good and some get bad cocaine even when ordered the same day. That would be a sign of selective scamming, yes? I do hope pfandleiher is no scammer but an explanation would be nice to hear.
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I was just gunna say Hof that was quite restrained lol.
Not trying to take one side or another here but I seriously doubt Pfand tried to fuck anyone on purpose it was obvious just a blip. I ordered 5g from Pfand and what I got was stellar quality and came out at 80% and I've ordered more. If people have got good product from here on in clearly it was just a blip that has been resolved. I understand why those who suffered the blip are pissed but calling Pfand a scammer or whatever is just silly IMO.
Anyway that's just how I see it.
Did you not order about the same time as me? My order was "shipped: June 30, 2012". Pfandleiher did not get back to me but if he does everything will be forgiven if he handles it right. What worries me is that I suspect some get good and some get bad cocaine even when ordered the same day. That would be a sign of selective scamming, yes? I do hope pfandleiher is no scammer but an explanation would be nice to hear.
Dunno I can't remember exactly remember when I ordered. I think you are reading too much into it though, just a shit batch and now shit is back on track. If you think about it logically then it makes more sense because nobody after a certain point has complained so that just indicates a blip rather than trend of selective scamming.
Like I said I'm just going on my personal encounters on here with Pfand and he doesn't seem the type to twat people about like that. I know it's fun to throw out conspiracy theories but all they ever do is make people blinkered and get tunnel vision on a matter.
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I was just gunna say Hof that was quite restrained lol.
Not trying to take one side or another here but I seriously doubt Pfand tried to fuck anyone on purpose it was obvious just a blip. I ordered 5g from Pfand and what I got was stellar quality and came out at 80% and I've ordered more. If people have got good product from here on in clearly it was just a blip that has been resolved. I understand why those who suffered the blip are pissed but calling Pfand a scammer or whatever is just silly IMO.
Anyway that's just how I see it.
Did you not order about the same time as me? My order was "shipped: June 30, 2012". Pfandleiher did not get back to me but if he does everything will be forgiven if he handles it right. What worries me is that I suspect some get good and some get bad cocaine even when ordered the same day. That would be a sign of selective scamming, yes? I do hope pfandleiher is no scammer but an explanation would be nice to hear.
Dunno I can't remember exactly remember when I ordered. I think you are reading too much into it though, just a shit batch and now shit is back on track. If you think about it logically then it makes more sense because nobody after a certain point has complained so that just indicates a blip rather than trend of selective scamming.
Like I said I'm just going on my personal encounters on here with Pfand and he doesn't seem the type to twat people about like that. I know it's fun to throw out conspiracy theories but all they ever do is make people blinkered and get tunnel vision on a matter.
Yeah me, Lim, and about 4-5 of our forum mates got off pfand and yes we all ordered about that time...maybe a day before but we all were happy with our shit....Thats all I can say on it really. We all know the score with coke too...Believe!!
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I was just gunna say Hof that was quite restrained lol.
Not trying to take one side or another here but I seriously doubt Pfand tried to fuck anyone on purpose it was obvious just a blip. I ordered 5g from Pfand and what I got was stellar quality and came out at 80% and I've ordered more. If people have got good product from here on in clearly it was just a blip that has been resolved. I understand why those who suffered the blip are pissed but calling Pfand a scammer or whatever is just silly IMO.
Anyway that's just how I see it.
Did you not order about the same time as me? My order was "shipped: June 30, 2012". Pfandleiher did not get back to me but if he does everything will be forgiven if he handles it right. What worries me is that I suspect some get good and some get bad cocaine even when ordered the same day. That would be a sign of selective scamming, yes? I do hope pfandleiher is no scammer but an explanation would be nice to hear.
Dunno I can't remember exactly remember when I ordered. I think you are reading too much into it though, just a shit batch and now shit is back on track. If you think about it logically then it makes more sense because nobody after a certain point has complained so that just indicates a blip rather than trend of selective scamming.
Like I said I'm just going on my personal encounters on here with Pfand and he doesn't seem the type to twat people about like that. I know it's fun to throw out conspiracy theories but all they ever do is make people blinkered and get tunnel vision on a matter.
Yeah me, Lim, and about 4-5 of our forum mates got off pfand and yes we all ordered about that time...maybe a day before but we all were happy with our shit....Thats all I can say on it really. We all know the score with coke too...Believe!!
Going to have to jump in this boat too, mine was marked in transit 7th and arrived to usa, Quality is definitely fuckin fire as they have said
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I was just gunna say Hof that was quite restrained lol.
Not trying to take one side or another here but I seriously doubt Pfand tried to fuck anyone on purpose it was obvious just a blip. I ordered 5g from Pfand and what I got was stellar quality and came out at 80% and I've ordered more. If people have got good product from here on in clearly it was just a blip that has been resolved. I understand why those who suffered the blip are pissed but calling Pfand a scammer or whatever is just silly IMO.
Anyway that's just how I see it.
Did you not order about the same time as me? My order was "shipped: June 30, 2012". Pfandleiher did not get back to me but if he does everything will be forgiven if he handles it right. What worries me is that I suspect some get good and some get bad cocaine even when ordered the same day. That would be a sign of selective scamming, yes? I do hope pfandleiher is no scammer but an explanation would be nice to hear.
Dunno I can't remember exactly remember when I ordered. I think you are reading too much into it though, just a shit batch and now shit is back on track. If you think about it logically then it makes more sense because nobody after a certain point has complained so that just indicates a blip rather than trend of selective scamming.
Like I said I'm just going on my personal encounters on here with Pfand and he doesn't seem the type to twat people about like that. I know it's fun to throw out conspiracy theories but all they ever do is make people blinkered and get tunnel vision on a matter.
Yeah, I really haven't even batted an eye to all the stuff going on here and I never once felt worried or anxious. Plus has anyone even uploaded a picture of their "shit" batch? Not too hard to take a picture and upload it to the onion image uploader. Anyway, I think those confused should heed the words above.
I've gotten the white batch and the new brown batch. I also got a gram of flake and each transaction has been phenomenal.
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I was just gunna say Hof that was quite restrained lol.
Not trying to take one side or another here but I seriously doubt Pfand tried to fuck anyone on purpose it was obvious just a blip. I ordered 5g from Pfand and what I got was stellar quality and came out at 80% and I've ordered more. If people have got good product from here on in clearly it was just a blip that has been resolved. I understand why those who suffered the blip are pissed but calling Pfand a scammer or whatever is just silly IMO.
Anyway that's just how I see it.
Did you not order about the same time as me? My order was "shipped: June 30, 2012". Pfandleiher did not get back to me but if he does everything will be forgiven if he handles it right. What worries me is that I suspect some get good and some get bad cocaine even when ordered the same day. That would be a sign of selective scamming, yes? I do hope pfandleiher is no scammer but an explanation would be nice to hear.
Dunno I can't remember exactly remember when I ordered. I think you are reading too much into it though, just a shit batch and now shit is back on track. If you think about it logically then it makes more sense because nobody after a certain point has complained so that just indicates a blip rather than trend of selective scamming.
Like I said I'm just going on my personal encounters on here with Pfand and he doesn't seem the type to twat people about like that. I know it's fun to throw out conspiracy theories but all they ever do is make people blinkered and get tunnel vision on a matter.
Yeah, I really haven't even batted an eye to all the stuff going on here and I never once felt worried or anxious. Plus has anyone even uploaded a picture of their "shit" batch? Not too hard to take a picture and upload it to the onion image uploader. Anyway, I think those confused should heed the words above.
I've gotten the white batch and the new brown batch. I also got a gram of flake and each transaction has been phenomenal.
Ok lets see if anyone else get shit soon, I believe they will cause people ordering about the same time as me also got good shit, AND pfandlehier did not answer my msg yet, thats why I think there is something dodgy going on. Either you do business good, do shit right when bad stuff happen, and look everyone is happy. But right now I got mustard cocaine and less money on my bc account, so not happy.
Also here is the picture of the mustard cocaine:
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=ea45a71c9a343d0489a9c84fc817fdbb.jpg
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DIMETHOCAINE!!
I believe this is what I and alot of other people recieved... The only thing that doesnt match the description of this is the smell. But I guess that can be easily altered. After reading about this substance more it completely matched what me and my friend felt. Nice one PF. Check it out http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/2c1e4a17e9
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Not me mate. Zero numbing, definitely no euphoria, pretty much zero energy lift. I am still pretty convicted caffeine powder rocked up because the shit was so fucking hard. Plus the taste was almost sweet I think.
Whatever PF is a cunt! ;D
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DIMETHOCAINE!!
I believe this is what I and alot of other people recieved... The only thing that doesnt match the description of this is the smell. But I guess that can be easily altered. After reading about this substance more it completely matched what me and my friend felt. Nice one PF. Check it out http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/2c1e4a17e9
yea sounds like the same gear I got, I've been past due for 4 days in resolution center for a full refund but have heard nothing, really starting to piss me off now, seems like SR doesn't care about me paying $115 for this crap, I don't have money trees.
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Has the chicken shit sounded in? If he hasn't you will get your 100% if he has direct SR to the forum boards so you can demonstrate a precedents.
Or I will vouch for you anything to find that cock sucker!
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Okay thats weird. I just got a 100% refund after that post just before. Anyone else? Been in the res center past due for about 6 days..
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See they know he is a slimmy little turd that would lick the cheese of the tip of you cock if he had a chance.
What I cannot comprehend at all, is this guy/girl/bitch has no spine. I mean Christ I am fairly sledging the dog. You think he would have some sort of self respect, I guess clearly not.
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Just chipping in on my 2 penneth here but I received my second order from Pfand today and although I haven't tried it yet it looks exactly like my first order. 5g, tacky and white when you hold it up to the light.
I've not tried it yet but will have a little line in a few hours and will finalize afterwards. :)
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But the fact that there was obviously 2 batches... Im sure he testes his gear... he would know exactly what was going on, already had fucked around with MDMA the following week, got sugar (I received that crap also) and then didn't want to go to all that effort of refunding and what not, instead got another batch as soon as he could and unfortunately alot of people got ripped. His feedback says it all, 3 weeks ago it was at 100. now 97...
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I've not tried it yet but will have a little line in a few hours and will finalize afterwards. :)
Fuck! Finalize after you try. Fucking genius bro. Why the fuck didn't I think of that, thats right I still was under the impression that cock sucker had some integrity!
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Okay thats weird. I just got a 100% refund after that post just before. Anyone else? Been in the res center past due for about 6 days..
yea just got a refund too! about time!
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Okay thats weird. I just got a 100% refund after that post just before. Anyone else? Been in the res center past due for about 6 days..
yea just got a refund too! about time!
Very strange... hopefully others see this to.
Now all I gotta do is find another legit coke vendor :(
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DIMETHOCAINE!!
I believe this is what I and alot of other people recieved... The only thing that doesnt match the description of this is the smell. But I guess that can be easily altered. After reading about this substance more it completely matched what me and my friend felt. Nice one PF. Check it out http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/2c1e4a17e9
The problem is the "mysthery" coke from PF numb hard, no euphoria, paranoia ... the opposite
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I've not tried it yet but will have a little line in a few hours and will finalize afterwards. :)
Fuck! Finalize after you try. Fucking genius bro. Why the fuck didn't I think of that, thats right I still was under the impression that cock sucker had some integrity!
Lol smooth Hoffa. It's not that I don't trust Pfand, he hasn't let me down first time round but given the amount of intensity I just want to be sure.
You need to get on the Innocent Smoothies Hof! Try a Strawberry and Nana one, always makes me feel better about my day. :)
I would say to you all as well that I wouldn't write-off Pfand straight away. I still think this whole thing was just a blip and whether you are pissed off at him or not he has been an asset to SR so far. It should probably be noted as well that those with issues all came from on batch which as far as I can tell isn't being sold anymore and all the issues seem to occur around the same time. Also it is positive to see people getting refunded so this is good a good sign. Sometimes mistakes are made and we are all human.
Anyway just a thought from someone who has been watching this unfold, take from it what you will.
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DIMETHOCAINE!!
I believe this is what I and alot of other people recieved... The only thing that doesnt match the description of this is the smell. But I guess that can be easily altered. After reading about this substance more it completely matched what me and my friend felt. Nice one PF. Check it out http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/2c1e4a17e9
The problem is the "mysthery" coke from PF numb hard, no euphoria, paranoia ... the opposite
It is fairly obvious that it is dimethocaine. I mean it is an almost an RC from what I have found and the effects are very little documented. The best way to tell is by rubbing a small amount on your tounge and gums... I have no idea what else you could've received. I doubt there was 3 batches?
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I've not tried it yet but will have a little line in a few hours and will finalize afterwards. :)
Fuck! Finalize after you try. Fucking genius bro. Why the fuck didn't I think of that, thats right I still was under the impression that cock sucker had some integrity!
Lol smooth Hoffa. It's not that I don't trust Pfand, he hasn't let me down first time round but given the amount of intensity I just want to be sure.
You need to get on the Innocent Smoothies Hof! Try a Strawberry and Nana one, always makes me feel better about my day. :)
I would say to you all as well that I wouldn't write-off Pfand straight away. I still think this whole thing was just a blip and whether you are pissed off at him or not he has been an asset to SR so far. It should probably be noted as well that those with issues all came from on batch which as far as I can tell isn't being sold anymore and all the issues seem to occur around the same time. Also it is positive to see people getting refunded so this is good a good sign. Sometimes mistakes are made and we are all human.
Anyway just a thought from someone who has been watching this unfold, take from it what you will.
I don't want to write him off. I have heard he has fixed alot up and back on track. I just think it was wrong. He isn't dumb so why? I could never handle the amount of crap he has and as far as ive heard its a one man operation? I just think it would've been easier to take the same approach as the MDMA incident. And the fact that my refund has been sitting is res center for ages!! and then I post about what it really is and refunds start happening... Really really sus. But, I have my money, I gave him 5/5, its all part of the risk we all take.
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Your shoveling that shit down my throat you show off cunt.
PF you have me all wrong, I not mad at ya, iv got nothing but love for you. It just that you are acting like a bitch, and I need to bitch slap you, you spineless cunt!
REFUND MY MONEY! and I will leave your thread alone. I promise I wont fuck you mum in her mouth anymore! Deal?
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LOL
it's very laughing for me this story of PF ...
I was the second person who claim the received coke was Shit !!! i was public lynched , some people saying i was a scammer, etc...
The same day, i have all proof in my bookmark, i send a ADVERTISSEMENT to PF asking him to inspect his batch ... he reply on the forum : "if you dont like dont buy" (not the real phrase but the sense.)
After that Dutchanbood come and don't want to belive in my credibility .... all people can search in the thread ;D
With the story i have with CS that ruined my reputation for some user, so at this time i was in dispute with CS, Dutchanbod, and PF ??? wahou i was dead if i was inculping PF for distribuate shit cocaine (intentionally or not...)
With all this dispute story I say PF send me Shit....remember, "mustard" is me !
All in all , for the community i want always tell the true, !!! And if it has bad consequence, people hating you and lynching you with karma all 3 days, LOL
That is the price to pay to be in accord with my values and beliefs ;D
Put this in a small corner of your brain, it can salve you in the future ;D
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Yeah I can see where you are coming from of course but like I said sometimes mistakes are made. I also that sometimes people forget that nobody knows what is going on IRL with vendors, life can be pretty hectic sometimes. I mean a few weeks ago I was in a car accident and I was in bed for about 7 days from the whiplash. When I came back I had a 100+ messages asking what was going on RAH RAH lol. Obviously this is minor compared to Pfand who apparently had 800+ messages or whatever but the principle is the same. People obviously get stressed because of the fundamental concern which is "Oh shit...what if they have been nicked and my address is compromised" even if that isn't what you are thinking, that is what your subconscious is ultimately concerned with. Obviously this worry can be cancelled if you use encryption but it is pretty shocking how many people don't. I'd love to see everyone that buys from me use it but that wont happen.
Anyway I am digressing a lot now so I'll shut the fuck up lol. Like I said, just trying to give some outside perspective.
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LOL
it's very laughing for me this story of PF ...
I was the second person who claim the received coke was Shit !!! i was public lynched , some people saying i was a scammer, etc...
The same day, i have all proof in my bookmark, i send a ADVERTISSEMENT to PF asking him to inspect his batch ... he reply on the forum : "if you dont like dont buy" (not the real phrase but the sense.)
After that Dutchanbood come and don't want to belive in my credibility .... all people can search in the thread ;D
With the story i have with CS that ruined my reputation for some user, so at this time i was in dispute with CS, Dutchanbod, and PF ??? wahou i was dead if i was inculping PF for distribuate shit cocaine (intentionally or not...)
With all this dispute story I say PF send me Shit....remember, "mustard" is me !
All in all , for the community i want always tell the true, !!! And if it has bad consequence, people hating you and lynching you with karma all 3 days, LOL
That is the price to pay to be in accord with my values and beliefs ;D
Put this in a small corner of your brain, it can salve you in the future ;D
Fucking love this guy! +1 because I didn't understand what the fuck you just said ;)
Jokes.
Costello you are man enough to stand up and be counted. Bring that lynch squad to me, I have your back. You need to come and chat shit with us we will induct you into our entourage, then fuck anyone that tries to grab your ball sack!
So to interpret what you said, PF is the son of a motherless goat, who fucks small animals so his tiny pecker is able to be stimulated? Yes I got that right?
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No, to resume :
I always tell the truth even after there are negative aspect.
i prefear say to the most reliable Vendor he send me shit and be lynched in public that to stay in the silence by fear of consequences ...
So in the future, if i tell to you that your favorite seller sent me crap, belive me ... ;D
PS: scuze my bad english bro, i know only a simply english for helping me to buy coke in SR ... But when i want to propose a vision of a situation with more nuances and concept, its more difficult.
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PFs strength is also a weakness, the guy obviously does not do coke!
But, since I come here PF has been a hero. Most would cash out if they got stung with sugar! And it is as easy to be ripped with 5 kilos as 5 grams. The dealers big buyers trust can turn scam on them. Shit happens in the drug world and PF has put it right at great cost.
I am glad I was delayed buying - I had PFs coke lined up from day one when it was 'fucking awesome shit'.
My fear on coke is RCs or speed. I'd be horrified to snort a couple of lines and feel paranoid!
Hope you guys with that batch are refunded.
PF ought to choose a good customers of his to test samples of each batch IF he has nobody he trusts to sample over there. Not bought any coke off PF plus there are bigger coke users than pussy Red who has 100mg and is flying. ::)
Lucky me!
But shit coke sure sucks big time. That is why Red never buys UK sourced yayo. Any line, even baggies of half a gram. Washing UK coke is like a magic act as the coke vanishes before your very eyes.
Hope PF gets a good batch in - I want my Winter coke now to save the hassle of the busy season. I can keep yayo in reserve. Best to swoop on the best few batches. Got a few coke using relatives staying. Got to be a good host, right?
;D
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Such a level head Redman. I need to learn this trait, as sometimes I may go a little bit too far ;)
What can I say your right its just scamming piss weak cunts really get under my skin...
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There is some good UK coke Red... It's out there mate!
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But shit coke sure sucks big time. That is why Red never buys UK sourced yayo. Any line, even baggies of half a gram. Washing UK coke is like a magic act as the coke vanishes before your very eyes.
TRUE-DAT! Bing is certainly not a commodity that I support the "Buy British" campaign.
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to put a little law concept in buying coke on SR :
The buyer is the King. Point ....
The seller has the responsability to provide to you the exact service you have paid for, ok ? So if a man sell you 87% cocaine and you receive 70% cocaine, its your right to go to the resolution center.
We have to never forget SR it's a market, like wall-mart ... if you pay for a PS3 and wall-mart deliver a xbox360, it his the own responsability to wall-mart take you xbox and deliver for free your PS3.
Never the buyer have to forget he paid a SERVICE, only that ...How the seller make to deliver to you your service is not your fucking problem !!!
That will say, for all buyer, if a seller send you crap, because the seller was himself really scammed in the real life and propose to you a 50% refund, you have the obligation to refuse it !!!
The life, the problem of a seller is not the problem of a buyer, its simple, no ? totally logic !! you have the fundamental right to receive what you have paid for .. its essensial marketting rules.
I take Marijuanaismymuse for example, i have buy 1g of this "mistery meth" (name invented by hassan, lol ), totally shit, crap, objectived by many users... at the bgining of the resolution he will to share the loss 50/50 buyer/seller ... I say NO ! that is not logic, i don't have to pay for your ponctual uncompetence for choosing his bad batch.
Marijuanaismymuse take this point of view on consideration, he reship to all buyer unintentionally scammed by him th same order with a good batch... What have you to say ? only you are a real business man. His reputation is totally restored and he is more respected now.
And the bonus : he ask to experimented user how to make for avoid this situation in the futur : He bought special mandelin and marquiss test, he make some test with bleach and other thing i don't know....his own business is becoming to be impermeable with probable future scams ;D
10/10
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Costello I agree but the sad truth of it is many venders open accounts making the same mistake people do in the real world and open a business without enough capital to cover expected and unexpected losses and just assume the money will role in to fund their little company here and when unforeseen problems occur shipments are either late or not sent cause the vender lacks the funds to re up from his or her source and or they are getting high on their own supply and borrowing money from one hand to pay the other. Which no matter which of the scenarios I named is true in the end that road leads to the buyer getting screwed usually.
Like wise evil dishonest people who have good business sense and know how to run a company are still in the end "evil dishonest people" and that road leads to buyers being hooked and crooked.
It may be unfair to new venders but a word to the wise is buy only from respected long time venders with a solid track record. In the end you can just hope you found an honest vender here with good intentions.
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Hey all, got my 1g from PF yesterday. It looks and smells on point (no mustard smell) but I'm no pro at this.
I'm at work right now, and saving this for my and my boyfriend... wish I could do a bump to let you guys know quality. :/
Would uploading a photo help? I would just need to know how to scrub metadeta so my location isn't revealed.'
I don't expect too much from the coke market on SR... I know for certain I couldn't get local shit as good as the stuff I get on SR so I'm not too fussy. Maybe I should be? haha good to have some people who really know their shit on here.
It only bothers me when a vendor has no problem taking the money from more orders than he can handle, but then doesn't get the product out and doesn't even let people know what's going on. I can't complain, PF was good to me. I placed the order Sunday and got it Thursday to NE USA.
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Yes bro, i understand your position ;D
What you say is interessing, SR have to provide the CANCEL fontion immediately when you order an item ...
The problem of funds and USD of a seller is not our problem ! And its undispenseable to be able to cancel your order when you want. In the real life when you buy an item you have 8 days to return it without any explication. And you can return it 1 minute after paying, look the link i made with a CANCEL fonction immediately diponible .... We don't have to be disadvantaged because a seller has funds problem ... WTF ??
And an another interesting analysis on SR market :
When you buy to a seller and he ddn't provide tracking system or signature at the end, ,,,he only ship the letter with standard post office after you have ordered and pay with Escrow. At this time at that time there was an balance of power not equal. Why ? Because the buyer has a PROOF honoring his part of the contat, that is the BTC in ESCROW system. And now, the seller what proof can he provide ? ITS GOOD FAITH ? yes only that, but that is nothing !!! that is not a proof and this system is very Bad in my opinion .... Letters take by custom, letter takes by junki-postman ...When you send a letter to anyone, the letter have to come, its the job of the postal system, no ? when you send a letter to your grand mother in japan for Xmas, she receive it....
Resolution system, 50/50, for a letter who is never arrived benefits, in my sense, at the seller. Because he can't objectively proff he send it. But a buyer can ... that is not really fair ....
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I think that maybe for many venders and buyers that they are so accustomed to dealing with trashy,immoral ,dishonest users and sellers in real life they do not stop to think that maybe the person they are dealing with on here is most likely a good decent human being just like they are and in the habit of treating a buyer like a fiend or cluck and a buyer looking at the seller like a criminal or bad person.
In the end no matter how much we talk or make sense or preach decency to certain people they will always take the low road and screw over people and take that which is not theirs and never was theirs.
I hope this is the 21st century way of dosing and supplying chemicals that many need to be stable and or happy either cause they can not afford insurance or just want to feel happy and have a good time hurting no one in the process and those who come here in the future take a second to think about who is at the other end of the button they click on with their mouse. Usually someone who loves and hurts and has family they love and care for and they have people who love and care for them. In the end most of us are really not all that different I would care to guess. So just expect honesty from both parties and use good judgement in all things.
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Hey all, got my 1g from PF yesterday. It looks and smells on point (no mustard smell) but I'm no pro at this.
I'm at work right now, and saving this for my and my boyfriend... wish I could do a bump to let you guys know quality. :/
Would uploading a photo help? I would just need to know how to scrub metadeta so my location isn't revealed.'
I don't expect too much from the coke market on SR... I know for certain I couldn't get local shit as good as the stuff I get on SR so I'm not too fussy. Maybe I should be? haha good to have some people who really know their shit on here.
It only bothers me when a vendor has no problem taking the money from more orders than he can handle, but then doesn't get the product out and doesn't even let people know what's going on. I can't complain, PF was good to me. I placed the order Sunday and got it Thursday to NE USA.
If you have not the "mustard" smell its a good point ;D
take your first bump sober, 80 mg , the first bump to test a quality batch is important and have to be, in my sense, bigger than normal bump.
if you are cool, chill , relaxed, warmness sensation , you have the good batch.
if you are bad psychological state, ponctualy depressive, paranoiac, want to redose to escape from this bad psychological state, you received the bad batch ...
Let we know
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I have been using SR for about 8 months now, however I only use the forums to check review threads of new vendors. I have placed many MDMA orders with Pf over the past 4 months and never had an issue. I decided to finally register on the forums after reading the pure shit that is being posted recently in this thread.
Hoffa: Here is my take on the issue. I'm sorry you got bad gear, all of us have been burnt before. Unfortunately, your obvious impulsiveness was your own downfall in this particular situation. You stupidly decided to finalize your order before testing the gear. That's no smarter than the hundreds of poor lemmings that FE'd with Tony76. You've been around SR for long enough to know that FEing is retarded, no matter the vendor's reputation. By finalizing, you removed all protection of the escrow system that is there for your security, and that was your own fault.
Here's an analogy: The brand 'Nike' is famous for their shoes and sportswear. If I wanted to spend $500 on a nice new pair of shoes, I would feel comfortable buying Nikes due to their history and reputation. However, imagine if Nike announced that they were now manufacturing and selling automobiles. There's no way in hell I would go out and pay $50000 on a Nike car, at least right away. I would wait awhile for them to get through their 'beta' stage. At the very least, I would go to the dealership and test drive it a few times, instead of just handing them my money on blind faith.
Now, I feel compassion for nearly everyone who received the bunk batch of coke from Pf. Luckily, the escrow system exists for this very reason, and those orders that were still in escrow were able to head to the resolution center and get a full refund. If you were stupid enough to finalize before testing your gear, then that's your fault. What were you thinking? "My package arrived, although I haven't inspected it, I'm gonna finalize now because I bet Pf REALLY needs this $1000 as soon as possible..."
In the past, Pf has been very accommodating. There's little doubt in my mind that if you would have handled this calmly and with maturity, Pf would have eventually given you a refund even though you finalized early. However, you decided to come on the forums and run your mouth nonstop, calling the vendor a cunt over and over again, and I know I wouldn't give you any refund, even if it meant taking a hit on my feedback score. On top of this, as a public forum, every other vendor on SR can see the way you've decided to handle this situation, and I hope you end up on their blacklists. No one wants to do business with some loudmouth who lacks maturity and respect.
This is my one and only forum post, I don't care about karma, I just think your childish rant has gone on long enough, and I'm sure others will agree with me. Sorry about your $1000, hopefully this turn of events has taught you a lesson about finalizing early.
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Gunna try my stuff now. Shall update in about 5 mins lol.
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Hoffa: You stupidly decide to finalize your order before testing the gear. That's no smarter than the hundreds of poor lemmings that FE'd with Tony76. You've been around SR for long enough to know that FEing is retarded, no matter the vendor's reputation. By finalizing, you removed all protection of the escrow system that is there for your security, and that was your own fault.
What can be more said when the true is said ... Nothing.
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Gunna try my stuff now. Shall update in about 5 mins lol.
Shits good. Bit crunchier than last time but I think it's just dried out a bit. Only slight thing is again, I'd like it packages in a zippie and then vac sealed coz scraping the vac seal is a bit of a cunt. Otherwise fine and dandy. :D
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Gunna try my stuff now. Shall update in about 5 mins lol.
Only slight thing is again, I'd like it packages in a zippie and then vac sealed coz scraping the vac seal is a bit of a cunt. Otherwise fine and dandy. :D
I agree^^. All vendors should do this. Even if it comes overweight, my brain won't let me in good conscience leave powder visibly stuck to the bag without a long scraping session.
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Gunna try my stuff now. Shall update in about 5 mins lol.
Shits good. Bit crunchier than last time but I think it's just dried out a bit. Only slight thing is again, I'd like it packages in a zippie and then vac sealed coz scraping the vac seal is a bit of a cunt. Otherwise fine and dandy. :D
any euphoria ?
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When you buy to a seller and he ddn't provide tracking system or signature at the end, ,,,he only ship the letter with standard post office after you have ordered and pay with Escrow. At this time at that time there was an balance of power not equal. Why ? Because the buyer has a PROOF honoring his part of the contat, that is the BTC in ESCROW system. And now, the seller what proof can he provide ? ITS GOOD FAITH ? yes only that, but that is nothing !!! that is not a proof and this system is very Bad in my opinion .... Letters take by custom, letter takes by junki-postman ...When you send a letter to anyone, the letter have to come, its the job of the postal system, no ? when you send a letter to your grand mother in japan for Xmas, she receive it....
Resolution system, 50/50, for a letter who is never arrived benefits, in my sense, at the seller. Because he can't objectively proff he send it. But a buyer can ... that is not really fair ....
There is also objectively no proof, without tracking info, that a buyer did NOT receive his goods, so seller and buyer are in the same boat. I bet that the majority of non-receivers here are going for a free ride, or are just not happy with what they received, and don't want back-and-forth arguments in the resolution center, so simply say "never got it". This goes for quality issues, plain greed, or having multiple accounts to help one's own dispute with vendor and in the topics here, this place is so much about trust. You can get a 100% refund with the help of SR staff when one says the goods received are bad, true?
If it was caught at customs, you would not receive other orders from here for a while, and also be noted about it?
Junkie-mailman? How could he perform the task of being a mailman, these guys are tough. I gave Bukowski's post office to our mailman, "it is so fuckin' true", he said. I asked him if he never was curious of the contents of letters, he said "if you are, you will go nuts within a week, I handle about 1000 to 3000 letters and folders, bubble envelopes and small packages a day."
Now, if there was a way to try a batch for a proper fee, once per batch, and get a guarantee on getting the same dope on larger orders, maybe even through a third party depot, this would take away a lot of hassles..
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Gunna try my stuff now. Shall update in about 5 mins lol.
Shits good. Bit crunchier than last time but I think it's just dried out a bit. Only slight thing is again, I'd like it packages in a zippie and then vac sealed coz scraping the vac seal is a bit of a cunt. Otherwise fine and dandy. :D
any euphoria ?
Yeah plenty man. :)
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Costello I agree but the sad truth of it is many venders open accounts making the same mistake people do in the real world and open a business without enough capital to cover expected and unexpected losses and just assume the money will role in to fund their little company here and when unforeseen problems occur shipments are either late or not sent cause the vender lacks the funds to re up from his or her source and or they are getting high on their own supply and borrowing money from one hand to pay the other. Which no matter which of the scenarios I named is true in the end that road leads to the buyer getting screwed usually.
Like wise evil dishonest people who have good business sense and know how to run a company are still in the end "evil dishonest people" and that road leads to buyers being hooked and crooked.
It may be unfair to new venders but a word to the wise is buy only from respected long time venders with a solid track record. In the end you can just hope you found an honest vender here with good intentions.
brilliantly said mate.
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So I received 1.6g (inc bag and vac) from PF about 2 weeks ago.
I ordered 2g, so I was disappointed in the quantity and to be honest, also the quality.
I was told to contact PF because 0.6g is around the weight of the baggie and that a mistake may have happened. It was around half of the 2g that I ordered of sesampino that arrived a week later.
I'll leave it up to PF to contact me if he feels a mistake has happened.
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It will be a loooong wait mate!
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Yes, for sure...
sent him a message 4 days later in SR and Forum ... No read and no reply .. :'(
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So now I finally flushed the mustard down the toilette after trying it both sober and drunk, both times it was shit, real shit. Nervous, paranoia, and no fucking sleep. Also PF is not answering my mails, so yeah life sucks. SR, why can't you kick pf of the market? I mean he does not handle his orders good and shit get delayed, he sends out sugar instead of mdma and mustard cocaine, and yeah shit happens? Shit happens when you do not SMELL, TASTE & TRY the fucking massive amounts of gear you buying. What pf, are you a 13 year old arab kid buying your gear from the Somalian dudes hanging out at park benches by your project? Why do we need a non-pro like this here? I seriously do not care if he ups his game again, you do not forget fuck ups like this and they will happen again with a guy like this.
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Hey, just wanted to update. The 1g coke from PF was fucking great. :)
Anyone know if he still has that batch? If so I will place another order right now.
PF doesn't use/test each batch apparently... so I'm nervous if he has new product in stock. :/
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PF, Please update on current batch quality
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An update would be great, because i am about to make a 5g order from him. (gathering coins atm)
But i am not sure if i shall place the order or not because of all the hustle he seems to be in....
So heres my question again.
Did someone recently order C from him, and how long did he take to process and deliver (domestic)?
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a guy called pfandleiher >:(
Ok, this is what I learned after ordering 5 g MDMA at PFANDLEIHER and receiving nothing:
1) a good feedback must not be reliable at SR, since sellers can build up this reputation easily by requesting buyers to finalize early
2) Pfandleiher promised, after I contacted you last time, to resend the stuff.Still nothing.Interesting is, that the coke that I ordered from him arrived, but not the MDMA, since he had some troubles with supplying it.
3)Pfandleiher does not react on any message, like the last, when I asked if he has finally sends it.
4) I got not even an offer for refund from him or explanation.
Lost 25 bitcoins for nothing, waited 4 weeks and was just scammed.
I will be more cautious in the future, and I am dissappointed by this seller.
best regards
baginski
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>:(
a guy called pfandleiher >:(
Ok, this is what I learned after ordering 5 g MDMA at PFANDLEIHER and receiving nothing:
1) a good feedback must not be reliable at SR, since sellers can build up this reputation easily by requesting buyers to finalize early
2) Pfandleiher promised, after I contacted you last time, to resend the stuff.Still nothing.Interesting is, that the coke that I ordered from him arrived, but not the MDMA, since he had some troubles with supplying it.
3)Pfandleiher does not react on any message, like the last, when I asked if he has finally sends it.
4) I got not even an offer for refund from him or explanation.
Lost 25 bitcoins for nothing, waited 4 weeks and was just scammed.
I will be more cautious in the future, and I am dissappointed by this seller.
best regards
baginski
Jesus Christ...
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need to sort his shit out big time
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he has already told me twice that he will sort it and went back on his word, i got the same batch as hoffa and at the same time, he refunded hoffa and told me in this thread that he will reship good coke to me and he hasnt, i wouldnt mind if it was 1 gram or 2, but 25 grams, over $2100, i wont let this go, all you people that are getting good stuff, thats fine, but what if he sent you 25 grams of some sort of RC shit that i dont even know what it is or if its dangerous or not, i dont think its much for him to sort his good customers out in a fair way, basic customer service, i will be on this thread and all the cocaine threads complaining until he sorts this out, he needs to grow a set of balls, i would advise anyone not to order anything of him until he sorts his shit out
sends sugar instead of mdma
sends some dangerous rc out instead of coke
gets shitty lsd that he doesnt even know what it is himself
bad bad customer service
ignores his customers pms and messages
the list goes on and on and you guys are fucking mugs to order off him
Pfandleiher sort this shit out once and for all
GIVE ME A FUCKING REFUND !!!!!!!
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I'm only going to FE now when I actively assume a risk - for example, when I'm the first International buyer from a Dom seller. Otherwise, I'm not going to FE. If sellers insist, or give me some crap about people from my country must FE because they reckon we're a bunch of scammers, or our Customs service is staffed my magicians, I'm just not buying from them.
I don't mind the general concept of new buyers having to FE, but I think there should be an A-Class Vendor system from which newbies are encouraged to buy from before they're given the option of dealing with the wolves. This was suggested by someone else and I think it's a fantastic idea.
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one thing is for sure. I will hang up the SR gloves for a while after this (likely) resolution.
I not longer trust any vendor with my money. Rapid disintegration over the past 3 months it seems. I am one of those lucky people who can get a buzz off a cup of coffee and a mars bar so they wont be missed. I don't trust their integrity to not selectively scam buyers with a refund or two in stats or in a custom strong country simply because they know it is such a small proportion of their overall transactions so they will get away with it anyway(when they are busy, which is always now).
It isn't a cutting edge concept. As soon as a business expands, resulting decline of customer satisfaction is always correlated.
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Another aussie reported not receiving after sent on july 4th. thats about 10 now...
Is everybody else receiving?
Hi
I'm in AU
I ordered 1G coke from pfandleiher on 27th June
"shipped" on the 29th
Has not arrived
I sent him a PM on 13th July stating it had not arrived and whether I should wait longer - no response
on 15th July I hit resolve and suggested an extension of 10 days to see if it would arrive - has not accepted resolution
in resolution centre it now says "due in: 4 hrs * time before an admin from Silk Road steps in"
Does this mean in 4 hrs Silk Road will automatically finalize?
I am a relatively new buyer and this is my first non arrival and I'm pissed cos it's going to ruin my buyer stats!
I hate being in the dark! Would be good if pf could tell me what is going on!
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one thing is for sure. I will hang up the SR gloves for a while after this (likely) resolution.
I not longer trust any vendor with my money. Rapid disintegration over the past 3 months it seems. I am one of those lucky people who can get a buzz off a cup of coffee and a mars bar so they wont be missed. I don't trust their integrity to not selectively scam buyers with a refund or two in stats or in a custom strong country simply because they know it is such a small proportion of their overall transactions so they will get away with it anyway(when they are busy, which is always now).
It isn't a cutting edge concept. As soon as a business expands, resulting decline of customer satisfaction is always correlated.
I agree totally - and as a newbie i just have this feeling that I've been selectively scammed... Small order - small proportion - and if I got to leave bad feedback on SR it'd just dissappear off the list within a day or two...
re: business expanding - if he can't deal with the volume: de-list the items or increase the price! just common sense!
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I would still give him the benefit of the doubt as I have always received his orders up until now (6 or so). I don't think he is scamming as much as he is just disorganized.
After hearing about general delays I am optimistic. Relax folks, I know the loss of cash isn't as much to us as the loss of our illicit substances to escape this dreaded reality. Wait a month before giving up hope, order small to avoid the sting, read credible reviews (I know its hard with my ramblings in the mix! so sorry (I'm not) ) .
I like the ideas of tracking though. I'll go an collect it and sign for it. I dont give a toss (I have an amazing solicitor :) )
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hes a scamming cunt, anyone that buys from Pfandleiher needs there head examined
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Another aussie reported not receiving after sent on july 4th. thats about 10 now...
Is everybody else receiving?
Hi
I'm in AU
I ordered 1G coke from pfandleiher on 27th June
"shipped" on the 29th
Has not arrived
I sent him a PM on 13th July stating it had not arrived and whether I should wait longer - no response
on 15th July I hit resolve and suggested an extension of 10 days to see if it would arrive - has not accepted resolution
in resolution centre it now says "due in: 4 hrs * time before an admin from Silk Road steps in"
Does this mean in 4 hrs Silk Road will automatically finalize?
I am a relatively new buyer and this is my first non arrival and I'm pissed cos it's going to ruin my buyer stats!
I hate being in the dark! Would be good if pf could tell me what is going on!
I ordered coke on a number of occassions from late June to early July. They took the standard number number of days to arrive. The only complaint I had was that both batches would be as what I describe as below average-ordinary in quality.
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hes a scamming cunt, anyone that buys from Pfandleiher needs there head examined
someone that spends all their money on untested goods needs their head testing.
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CUNTS LIKE "Pfandleiher" IS EXACTLY WHAT'S WRONG WITH SR VENDORS WHO SELL HUGE AMOUNTS OF PRODUCT AND DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THEIR CUSTOMERS WHEN THERE IS A COMPLAINT
STAY AWAY FROM PEOPLE LIKE THIS
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CUNTS LIKE "Pfandleiher" IS EXACTLY WHAT'S WRONG WITH SR VENDORS WHO SELL HUGE AMOUNTS OF PRODUCT AND DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THEIR CUSTOMERS WHEN THERE IS A COMPLAINT
STAY AWAY FROM PEOPLE LIKE THIS
Hi Sara
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you can also suck my dick, i forced nobody to order drugs :D from anybody
I am still not believing that there was something wrong with the coke you all just broke and need some quick $$$$
oh well it worked with hoffa and some other bitches who cried the loudest, now you try !!!
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Quote Pfandleiher: "little hint, why the fuck are you expecting euphoria and all that shit ?
coke is a bitch, i tried all batches, it never gave me a good feeling, rather the opposite,
dont know whats wrong with you, coke is maybe fun 3-5 times, from there on its just satisfying your addiction"
Looks like it is Pfand who should stay away from coke, with remarks like that it's obvious he doesn't have a clue what he sells.
Thanks for the honesty though, always nice to know who's C. to avoid.
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hahaha always the same :D no matter what i say, it will ALWAYS be used against me,
just saying coke gives me nothing, whether its noriegas,sesampinos,dutchaanbods,MINs really dont care.
It does not give me anything that i would call euphoria.
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OK you guys wanna play hard, COCAINE wont come back.
Write me an inquiry, if your name is linked to a good experience in my head i might open the message and put up a custom listing
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Cokes a funny one like that... My misses always seems to get a million time higher than I do!
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Quote Pfandleiher: "little hint, why the fuck are you expecting euphoria and all that shit ?
coke is a bitch, i tried all batches, it never gave me a good feeling, rather the opposite,
dont know whats wrong with you, coke is maybe fun 3-5 times, from there on its just satisfying your addiction"
Looks like it is Pfand who should stay away from coke, with remarks like that it's obvious he doesn't have a clue what he sells.
Thanks for the honesty though, always nice to know who's C. to avoid.
BTW if you know my body so much better than i do then please help me find my G-spot
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If you are a guy it's up your ass dude. For me that's just not a place I am willing to venture so I shall never find my G spot. Women get a way better deal than men.
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Hey Pfandleiher how are you? I know you are getting a lot of grief from a lot of people. Maybe you should start a list of those you refuse to ever sell to again. If some get mad at me for talking to you or whatever then oh well. I already got plenty of negative karma hahahaha
If you are a guy it's up your ass dude. For me that's just not a place I am willing to venture so I shall never find my G spot. Women get a way better deal than men.
hahaha Lim your crazy
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TBH mate the coke i got from you was decent, as was quite a few peoples that ordered you from the same time, which we ALL said in our reviews, but the new batch sounds shit mate and Hoffa in particular i trust his reviews, i know the guy quite well - if he says you sent him shit, you did indeed send him shit. he doesn't need to fuck up his buyer stats requesting a refund, the mother fuckers minted - whats a fucking hundred bucks here and there for the wealthy? he did it out of principal
whatever the problem, 2 batches or whatever man, you can handle it a bit better than you are. i'm not referring to the refunds/reships or lack of them, just with your attitude on here - you've probably lost a fair bit of custom with these rantings.
don't shit on your customers mate. yes i can understand you getting pissed off with everyone calling you a cunt etc, but can't you rise above it and be the adult in the situation? i saw you say repeatedly 'im working on my current orders, i'll sort the backlog out when i get chance'. yes you will get muppets on your case all the time - i used to sell coke IRL so i know the kind of dickheads you have to deal with, but just quote your original post each time to answer them and say no more. i wouldn't have had a problem with buying from you again, but after this debacle i think i'll be looking elsewhere.
and doing coke more than 3-5 times is only to feed your addiction? WTF?? maybe you meant 3-5 times in one sitting and craving rather than addiction? or maybe you are just trying the crap batch you currently have?
i'm just trying to calm the storm from both sides; flame me all you want for this, i'm impervious to the ramblings of people that obviously have the hump
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Quote Pfandleiher: "little hint, why the fuck are you expecting euphoria and all that shit ?
coke is a bitch, i tried all batches, it never gave me a good feeling, rather the opposite,
dont know whats wrong with you, coke is maybe fun 3-5 times, from there on its just satisfying your addiction"
Looks like it is Pfand who should stay away from coke, with remarks like that it's obvious he doesn't have a clue what he sells.
Thanks for the honesty though, always nice to know who's C. to avoid.
BTW if you know my body so much better than i do then please help me find my G-spot
LOL
Also I tried coke once direct from south of the border......shit made me a touch talkative but really nauseous. My friends finished the same gram off and said it was the best they ever had.
Coke is a tricky bitch
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Lol, say what you feel Raouly, don't hold back....
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OK you guys wanna play hard, COCAINE wont come back.
Write me an inquiry, if your name is linked to a good experience in my head i might open the message and put up a custom listing
Relax dude, you seem legit, but just don't know coke, right? Whether it is just not your thing or you never ran into the right stuff, so be it. Let someone locally who knows coke test it before you buy big, or let your dutch contact DA take it to a test facility. Just don't buy something and sell it without knowing what it is. Anyone could be fooled like that, even more if your contact knows how C. doesn't work for you, you're easy prey.
Chill! Please!
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to be fair the guy doesnt know mdma either, he sold people sugar.
sorry to stoke the fire, just couldnt help it
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Thats not how it works over here, taking c to the lab from someone you are working with your entire life, (not talking bout me, but about my partners)
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Thats not how it works over here, taking c to the lab from someone you are working with your entire life, (not talking bout me, but about my partners)
FIRST OFF LET ME START BY SAYING YOUR AN IDIOT FOR SHITTING ON YOUR CUSTOMERS LIKE YOU DO
SECOND BY THE REVIEWS BOTH "YOU AND YOUR "GAY" LITTLE PARTNERS DONT KNOW COCAINE IF YOUR SELLING THE GARBAGE THAT EVERYONE IS COMLAINING ABOUT THEN PLEASE STOP SELLING COKE PERHAPS JUST STICK TO WHAT YOUR GOOD.
IF YOU DONT TEST EVERY SINGLE BATCH BEFORE YOU SELL IT THEN YOU ARE EITHER
A) STUPID
OR
B) DONT GIVE A SHIT
YOU COULD BE BUYING A BATCH OF BAKING SODA WITH LIDO MIX AND YOU WOULDNT KNOW THE DIFFERENCE TILL UR CUSTOMERS START YELLING
YOU SOUND LIKE A REAL PRICK TALKING TO UR CUSTOMERS LIIKE YOU DO I HOPE YOU DU STOP SELLING COKE
WOULD DO EVERYONE A BIG FAVOR.
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to be fair the guy doesnt know mdma either, he sold people sugar.
sorry to stoke the fire, just couldnt help it
dude seriously, those crystals looked very nice ;)
and i noticed it early enough, so go fuck your mother my friend. or a kangaroo i dont care
guys you can all suck it ! I have too many customers anyway , dont mind losing some pricks like you are.
dont give a shit.
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dude seriously, those crystals looked very nice ;)
and i noticed it early enough, so go fuck your mother my friend. or a kangaroo i dont care
guys you can all suck it ! I have too many customers anyway , dont mind losing some pricks like you are.
dont give a shit.
KEEP IT UP MATE WITH EACH POST YOU MAKE LIKE THIS YOU ARE SLOWLY KILLING YOUR BUSINESS 1 CUSTOMER AT A TIME
PEOPLE WILL START TO LOOK FOR PRODUCT REVIEWS ON THE FORUMS AND SEE THIS KINDA SHIT TALKING AND YOU KNOW WHAT?
THEY WILL STAY THE FUCK AWAY
HOW MANY MDMA AND COKE VENDORS ARE HERE ON SR??? TOO FUCKING MANY YOUR JUST 1 ASSHOLE VENDOR WHO IS SLOWLY KILLING YOUR CUSTOMER BASE
IF SOMEONE SEE'S THAT YOU DONT CARE ABOUT PEOPLE WHO BUY 25G'S THEN WHY WOULD YOU CARE IF THEY BOUGHT 1 GRAM?
YOUR AN ASSHOLE PRICK PLAIN AND SIMPLE I GIVE YOU 30 MORE DAYS TILL YOUR BUSINESS IS DRYED UP B/C MORE PEOPLE SEE THIS THE LESS FAITH THEY HAVE IN YOU AS VENDOR WHO MAKES GOOD ON DEALS.
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dude seriously, those crystals looked very nice ;)
and i noticed it early enough, so go fuck your mother my friend. or a kangaroo i dont care
guys you can all suck it ! I have too many customers anyway , dont mind losing some pricks like you are.
dont give a shit.
KEEP IT UP MATE WITH EACH POST YOU MAKE LIKE THIS YOU ARE SLOWLY KILLING YOUR BUSINESS 1 CUSTOMER AT A TIME
PEOPLE WILL START TO LOOK FOR PRODUCT REVIEWS ON THE FORUMS AND SEE THIS KINDA SHIT TALKING AND YOU KNOW WHAT?
THEY WILL STAY THE FUCK AWAY
HOW MANY MDMA AND COKE VENDORS ARE HERE ON SR??? TOO FUCKING MANY YOUR JUST 1 ASSHOLE VENDOR WHO IS SLOWLY KILLING YOUR CUSTOMER BASE
IF SOMEONE SEE'S THAT YOU DONT CARE ABOUT PEOPLE WHO BUY 25G'S THEN WHY WOULD YOU CARE IF THEY BOUGHT 1 GRAM?
YOUR AN ASSHOLE PRICK PLAIN AND SIMPLE I GIVE YOU 30 MORE DAYS TILL YOUR BUSINESS IS DRYED UP B/C MORE PEOPLE SEE THIS THE LESS FAITH THEY HAVE IN YOU AS VENDOR WHO MAKES GOOD ON DEALS.
FYI u retard, i already retired
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to be fair the guy doesnt know mdma either, he sold people sugar.
sorry to stoke the fire, just couldnt help it
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the term 'sold' mean he took people's money for the sugar batch? If I remember correctly, he caught it before people had even received the fake batch, announced it on his vendor page, and reimbursed those who he had already shipped to.
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to be fair the guy doesnt know mdma either, he sold people sugar.
sorry to stoke the fire, just couldnt help it
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the term 'sold' mean he took people's money for the sugar batch? If I remember correctly, he caught it before people had even received the fake batch, announced it on his vendor page, and reimbursed those who he had already shipped to.
u got it all wrong, i collected all the money and donated it to hitlers grandchildren (yeah i know he didnt have any children)
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FYI u retard, i already retired
THEN TAKE DOWN YOUR SELLERS PAGE YOU CUNT. CASH OUT YOUR COINS, BUY YOURSELF A GIGANTIC GOLD DILDO AND SIT ON IT THE REST OF YOUR FUCKING LIFE
FIRST TONY76
THEN NORIEGA
NOW PFANDLEIHER
ALL YOU SCAMMERS WILL GET YOURS IN THE END, WHAT GOES AROUND, COMES AROUND MATE --- MEMBER THAT
RETIRE FROM SR AND NEVER COME BACK THERE ARENT ENOUGH WORDS TO DESCRIBE WHAT KIND OF SCUM YOU ARE
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Hey Pfand, now that you're so talkative: How much money did you make in those few months on here? ;)
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Hey Pfand, now that you're so talkative: How much money did you make in those few months on here? ;)
about tree fiddy...... lolz
Whatever the figure is, I'm sure it beats the rat race bullshit.
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enough to lay low ;)
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to be fair the guy doesnt know mdma either, he sold people sugar.
sorry to stoke the fire, just couldnt help it
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the term 'sold' mean he took people's money for the sugar batch? If I remember correctly, he caught it before people had even received the fake batch, announced it on his vendor page, and reimbursed those who he had already shipped to.
u got it all wrong, i collected all the money and donated it to hitlers grandchildren (yeah i know he didnt have any children)
8)
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to be fair the guy doesnt know mdma either, he sold people sugar.
sorry to stoke the fire, just couldnt help it
dude seriously, those crystals looked very nice ;)
and i noticed it early enough, so go fuck your mother my friend. or a kangaroo i dont care
guys you can all suck it ! I have too many customers anyway , dont mind losing some pricks like you are.
dont give a shit.
HAHAHAHA! This is why I keep coming back. This guys is just a realist. Everybody uses business facades IRL normally, but you don't need to on the internet. So may as well be yourself! I cant say I would be nice to a lot of you/us fucks on this forum anyway. Bunch of paranoid drug users.
Anyway. Pfandleiher (spell check labels you a fucking 'panhandler' man! say it ain't so!):
1. I get his MDMA every time . It is fucking excellent. Was always within 7 business days before all you cunts flooded SR... wankers ;)
2. I got his cocaine once , overweight by .5g on 5gram order . Sucked nuts but the same as a street deal here at a fraction of the price. I tested it and established at least 20% (local street deal quality here as well. chemistry is my profession. I made no mistakes and have expensive lab access) and even though it didnt cook/IV well (I always prefer to smoke or IV over snort) I still managed to go through 5g in about 3 nights (...I have a problem :) but obviously wasn't that bad) . Still a good deal. (Hoffa was pissed because in Australia, you can pay 300-400 dollars for a gram of coke, but I think the cartels have always been wise to our price and sell us good chuckles as it isn't uncommon for us to spend 60-100k on a KG... so when you get it here, IF you can get it here from a decent dealer, it is crystalline , rock and as mentioned, very expensive. So I understand both Pfandleiher and Hoffa butting heads here. I have lived in both countries of theirs and can see why this communication issue would occur. Most cocaine i get in EU is average, even if sourced from an investment banker or well known musician. If you have a good contact in Aus you are getting 1980's disco rocks. )
3. re-ordered from him a week or two later after anyway (AfterHours fucked me on a deal. I can guarantee it, and that is all I can say, apart from fuck that cunt). Still waiting, probably delayed from lots of transactions and will review in due time!
All in all. He is a smart ass, an excellent vendor and gives me better quality drugs than I can get without sucking annoying peoples dicks for a good hour (metaphorically you shit heads) or at 5-6 times the cost. You are on a good thing and don't even know it.
Ihr seid wie die Geier ! Look it up you uncultured heathens.
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Leave PF alone he left SR oh wait he is back, oh wait he is gone. :o
Fuck mate if this is not an attention attempt. Did your mummy not let you suck on her titties anymore? FFS take of your skirt big time drug dealer! Lmfao ::)
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im just enjoying my holidays :D
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UPDATE: complete 180, this stuff is utter garbage. i have no idea what's in it but it's not c
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yes agree on that. pfandleiher is a scammer...
sent me 1 g. dimeticane and after a bad rating from me, he contacted me(what is really unusual for him), and we talked about refund of 50% -i sent him as he wanted my BTC adress, and now he isnt reading my messages... no refund until yet.
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Is it possible I'm just an idiot and couldn't tell the difference between cocaine and dimethocaine? It did seem strange that it numbed more, came on slower, and didn't have quite the punch I expected. Although after dosing enough it was pretty euphoric.
How can you tell the difference?
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Paying SR $150 to start up a PfandleiherThe2nd account, gonna start selling you guys baking soda mixed with epsom salts for $120/g. Dat fishscale ;)
Makes me laugh all these fools rating 5/5 for shit quality just because it ended up arriving LMFAO.
How about I ship you baking soda and since it arrives you give me 5/5? Sound good?
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It would be nice if there were at least a smidget of cocaine mixed in there somewhere just to give me the challenge of finding it
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ye i did receive
and it was just shit! only shit!
he's a fuckin asshole and a scammer, sends some bath salts and dim. caine
still waiting for my 50% refund
but this fuckin asshole doesnt read the messages now!
would defnitely not buy from him! he's over. SCAM
cloudsurfer and cocainekingpin got some real nice clean coke