Silk Road forums
Discussion => Security => Topic started by: drganja on November 17, 2011, 03:24 am
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i am a regular browser of pillreports (ecstasy testing database) and recently i have been seeing tons of reports in the us section on european pills and saying that their "special ordered on the internet" etc, and in almost every one of these reports some idiot posts a comment about where the pills came from.. if this continues than the demand is going to be way too great. people need to keep their mouths shut on public websites!
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There is no reason not to spread the love. Why would you not want other people to experience ecstasy?
People know about this already. All we can hope is the Tor, getting bitcoins and PGP stuff weeds out the stupid people from buying.
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I can see your concern, but well, seller competition is really the only thing that can keep prices down. The prices are capped at street value, and a lot of seller are already at that point i.e. $20 USD per pill. LSD is over street value. I mean if you make LSD you make like a Billion hits at a time. There is no reason to charge so much. Maybe we could get some new sellers who are reading the reports. Also, it is quite a steep learning curve to setup TOR and everything.
Maybe one could be concerned about drawing to much attention to SR, but it already has a lot. I am quite confident that no government will be able to shut down the Silkroad hidden service.
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I am quite confident that no government will be able to shut down the Silkroad hidden service.
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I know for a fact that they could shut us down and the whole damn internet off if the government wanted too. Governments do as they wish. We are ONLY still up b/c the government, the super fuckstick lame hackers, and AL Gore allow it. Didn't you know AL Gore invented the internet?
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Yeah I side with drganja. Too much advertizing will get this place fucked up the ass. Word of mouth is ok because you can choose who hears it but posting on a public clearnet website is asking for trouble.
People who think SR is invincible will be the downfall of SR. I've seen it with so many other sites it's crazy.
It tends to go: implementation, acceptance, word of mouth distribution, honeymoon period, public knowledge, paranoia, shut down.
As much as I also believe the spreading of ecstasy is a good thing, I don't think it's a good thing if it eventually leads to closure of a distribution source.
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It's on Wikipedia with reliable sources.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Road_(marketplace)
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It's on Wikipedia with reliable sources.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Road_(marketplace)
WTF is wrong with people?! Thanks for letting us know madamebradley but shit news all round. All it's gonna take is some uneducated overly funded person to buy the wrong compound and end up injured or dead. SR will hit the news again, shit will hit the fan, the drug debate takes a step back 20 years and we're left with asking someone who we think "kinda fits the bill" to try and score. I know I'm being negative but c'mon! A wikipedia entry really is taking it too far.
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I agree.
I was shocked to see the infamous 'Green Elephant' Melbourne Australia pillreport
- the latest comment reads 'thanks DQB...'
A clear reference to our beloved sr..and Mr DQB himself.
Why do people need to brag - maybe share what you can obtain with close friends.. but that is all!
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Lol SR is the most public vending site ever. It was all over the media some months ago (including politicians requesting a shut down of SR) and every LE agent interested in such things already knows about it.
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I have to agree. SR is about as public as it can get. Only Chriss Hanson doing an undercover expose linking SR to peds could make it any more known to the public.
The politshits and LE already know and will only mess with us if they need to to divert attention away from some evil they are currently doing abroad, or domestically.
As far as knowledge and prices.......that's the market. It could go the other way.....a bunch of people sitting on a stash they don't want come to sell without exposing themselves to local people.
That would drive prices down. It could happen.
I hate (try not to hate but I do) PROTECTIONISM in all of it's forms. Corporations use protectionism to control their profits. Do you really want to use similar methods to distort freedom in buying and selling?
I would consider SR, and moreso the SR forums, a place where you might find an invite to a more private exchange. I don't have a problem with that.....it doesn't involve making anyone keep quiet unless they consent to it in advance. That's a mutual, voluntary contract. Fine by me. This place is NOT that place, obviously.
BTW, I'm still waiting for such an invite ;) I must not have found a sincere enough pumpkin patch just yet for the Great Dope Pumpkin to find me ;D
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I was on a similar site looking up feedback for a scammer, and saw repeated posts where SR was very childishly plugged in the headlines. Thats actually how I found out about SR, which is funny since I had been using a smaller onion-based trading market at the time.
We all know the inevitable.. its just a question of when and how fast it becomes too big of a problem to face. I hope I get set up, funded and able to use SR to my hearts desire before that day comes!
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i agree w Dr. ganja 100%. and im one of the people on there that goes fucking crazy on the assholes that post there stupid comments bout sr on there. its one thing to have this site in the news and to have it be in the public view its another thing to throw it in the goverments face repeatedly showing off our goodies bsically saying fuck u uncle sam try and shut us down. when people get to cocky bad shit happens!! the feds know pills get here thru the mail mainly by this website but when people publicly advertise there scores in the states of what they are buying thru this site watch billions of dollars will be thrown at the dea to shut this site down.
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How does the dea even know if this is in america or not. Are they allowed to interfere with foreign countries without permission?
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Many countries have similar LE teams that will work with the DEA.
Here in Canada, they just let the DEA raid peeps they think deserve it. Yeah, you heard right, DEA on our soil making arrests for laws that aren't even on the books in Canada.
Check out the story of that asshole Marc Emery.
I don't like him much, as you may have noticed, but he got seriously fucked by the DEA, all with complacency or help from our government.
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people need to keep their mouths shut on public websites!
Lol, quit acting like you're part of some secret club here. SR is a public site too, just utilizing tor for anonymity. Although people shouldn't be discussing sources on PR, that site is simply for harm reduction purposes.
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they dont know how to use their discretiion and thats how people get caught.
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I'd prefer an increase of popularity in scenes like bluelight and erowid, rather than in general public attention.
The more SR is present in mainstream media/websites, the more it urges government forces to take action.
But as quoted in the wikipedia entry: "the genie is out of the bottle, and they are fighting a losing war already" =)
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its a difficult one, how to let people know of the market, but its about illegal substances...and anonymous....
all 3 don't mix well....
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To be honest I have not noticed this in the UK section. Bearlove (the UK moderator) is all over any mention of sources and rightly so. Mentioning sources threatens the existence of PR and it's a very useful site for HR. The US section is a little crazier (like ED on bluelight...) Such a shame that the site still has a technical debt and it quite static. We have discussed potential features like the established members being able to flag and censor sensitive information like mention of sources in real time. At the moment it's only as good as the response time of mods, although they do a great job.
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you can't stop information from spreading in this day and era. you can think the blabbermouths are idiots but what one individual does really doesn't mean anything in the end.
trying to actively hide something can easily have the adverse effect as well.
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What we really need on SR is dee dee...
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FYI, you don't really need to use TOR to access Silk Road. Try this link on a normal web browser https://dkn255hz262ypmii.tor2web.org
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FYI, you don't really need to use TOR to access Silk Road. Try this link on a normal web browser https://dkn255hz262ypmii.tor2web.org
- but is it safe to do so..
- will the pages become cached by google and other search engines...after they are accessed...
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FYI, you don't really need to use TOR to access Silk Road. Try this link on a normal web browser https://dkn255hz262ypmii.tor2web.org
this is only a mirror of the sr website in traditional http. It doesn't offer the anonymity and encryption of SR through TOR.
I wouldn't advise anyone visiting this url from their home, let alone placing any order (i'm not sure it's even technically possible).
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i am a regular browser of pillreports (ecstasy testing database) and recently i have been seeing tons of reports in the us section on european pills and saying that their "special ordered on the internet" etc, and in almost every one of these reports some idiot posts a comment about where the pills came from.. if this continues than the demand is going to be way too great. people need to keep their mouths shut on public websites!
I agree with drganja; although it's obvious the authorities know everything there is to know about SR, the more ppl will talk about it in public places, the more they will want / need to take actions to go against it; not that they can easily shut the hidden service down but they can harden the package searching at customs for example.
I say let's not take the risk and let's make the most of it as it is
I too believe that there is no point in talking about it in mainstream medias, except bragging like "yeah me, i have some great secret info" ...
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It's on Wikipedia with reliable sources.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Road_(marketplace)
Looks like someone took care of the shit on wikipedia... ;)
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It's on Wikipedia with reliable sources.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Road_(marketplace)
Looks like someone took care of the shit on wikipedia... ;)
How do you mean? I still see the onion and the references to needing Tor.
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that was strange...nothing was there when i clicked on it earlier. oh well
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people need to keep their mouths shut on public websites!
Not really. People need to leave their insecurities at the door when they arrive here. Sounds harsh I know, but hear me out for this. I think the entire philosophy of Silk Road, is that it is public. We are talking about something revolutionary here (on the same level as Wikileaks). Its about regular people taking some power back, taking a stand, and not hiding in the shadows about it.
If SR was so hush hush, then neither you nor I would be here. Look at the practical aspect. Gawker, Wired, Rolling Stones Magazine and others have run open articles on Silk Road, with an audience of millions of readers. The pill reports exposure is just a drop in the pond. So if the point isn't clear, the point is that exposure happens, and its the members here expectation to accept that, and ultimately to embrace it.
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We are talking about something revolutionary here (on the same level as Wikileaks).
Funny you should make the comparison with wikileaks. Last time I checked they seemed pretty desperate lol
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Not really. People need to leave their insecurities at the door when they arrive here. Sounds harsh I know, but hear me out for this. I think the entire philosophy of Silk Road, is that it is public. We are talking about something revolutionary here (on the same level as Wikileaks). Its about regular people taking some power back, taking a stand, and not hiding in the shadows about it.
If SR was so hush hush, then neither you nor I would be here. Look at the practical aspect. Gawker, Wired, Rolling Stones Magazine and others have run open articles on Silk Road, with an audience of millions of readers. The pill reports exposure is just a drop in the pond. So if the point isn't clear, the point is that exposure happens, and its the members here expectation to accept that, and ultimately to embrace it.
Funny you should make the comparison with wikileaks. Last time I checked they seemed pretty desperate lol
I can see how you might make the comparison, but re-read my post. You misinterpreted the point (which is clearly stated lol). The world has an abundance of secret and shadowy and private trading sites. This site is not one of those. If you came here for 'security' and for privacy and for hush, then you came to the wrong place. By design this place facilitates public discussion. By trying to put a stop on this your showing a clear lack of scope for the situation.
You talk about:I believe that there is no point in talking about it in mainstream medias
^ which sorry to say, is a speech with no point. Like I said -- Rolling Stones, Gawker, Wired are all "mainstream medias" and they have all run their stories on Silk road, your belief doesn't factor in to this lol
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I can see how you might make the comparison, but re-read my post. You misinterpreted the point
I think it's an interesting comparison because it shows what the authorities can do when something really hurts them: for example make the whole banking system do what they want (fortunately that's when bitcoins come in)
You talk about:I believe that there is no point in talking about it in mainstream medias
^ which sorry to say, is a speech with no point. Like I said -- Rolling Stones, Gawker, Wired are all "mainstream medias" and they have all run their stories on Silk road, your belief doesn't factor in to this lol
hm... i thought the main point of this thread was discussing whether we root for or against SR publicity. I do agree with you that ppl against can't prevent ppl in favor to tell about it, but still they can expose their arguments.
Also the fact that some main stream media already did one article doesn't mean that everyone on the planet knows about this. I for example didn't know that any of those magazines had published the story.
Anyways there is no stopping that kind of information, it's only a matter of when. I'm totally with you guys on the ideology, but i guess i'm just a selfish conservative bastard who's afraid to loose his privileges :)
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What we really need on SR is dee dee...
haha! yes dee_dee would be a valuable addition to this forum, for comedy value if nothing else. I'm pretty sure he is too challenged and/or dyslexic to figure out TOR so don't worry too much. ;)