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Title: PROTIP: Dont use tor to check tracking - even for legit stuff
Post by: niggerjim on June 21, 2011, 06:02 am
http://g7pz322wcy6jnn4r.onion/opensource/II/Anonymity.html


"Another open source intelligence attack is particularly related to mailing subversive items. If tracking is checked from an IP address associated with an anonymizer this can flag the package/address due to the fact that most people do not check tracking with anonymizers. By checking tracking with an anonymizer you indicate that the package likely contains subversive material. We have information indicating that some postal agencies use tracking to flag packages in this way. "


Title: Re: PROTIP: Dont use tor to check tracking - even for legit stuff
Post by: MeowM on June 21, 2011, 06:52 am
Good info.
Title: Re: PROTIP: Dont use tor to check tracking - even for legit stuff
Post by: nomad bloodbath on June 21, 2011, 01:08 pm
All non.onion sites should be used without Tor.
:D
Title: Re: PROTIP: Dont use tor to check tracking - even for legit stuff
Post by: shepj on July 04, 2011, 05:19 pm
What about a VPN?
Title: Re: PROTIP: Dont use tor to check tracking - even for legit stuff
Post by: Dread on July 04, 2011, 11:13 pm
What about a VPN?
Not unless it's private.
Title: Re: PROTIP: Dont use tor to check tracking - even for legit stuff
Post by: zappastean on July 17, 2011, 08:28 pm
What about a VPN?
Not unless it's private.
I dont understand VPN = Virtual PRIVATE Network ? Yh, Im a bit slow sometimes, lol.
Title: Re: PROTIP: Dont use tor to check tracking - even for legit stuff
Post by: smodcastle on July 17, 2011, 10:54 pm
Ooooooooooooooooo  :o I've been currently checking a USPS shipment like every day via Tor... I figured it would be safer than if customs found it and then saw that my true IP had been anticipating its arrival... Your point makes total sense, though. Any tips on some third way to follow tracking?
Title: Re: PROTIP: Dont use tor to check tracking - even for legit stuff
Post by: anarcho47 on July 19, 2011, 02:32 pm
go to a coffee shop with your laptop and connect to the wireless there and check it.
Title: Re: PROTIP: Dont use tor to check tracking - even for legit stuff
Post by: b0ng on July 19, 2011, 07:34 pm
packagemapping.com for all your TOR package tracking needs.
Title: Re: PROTIP: Dont use tor to check tracking - even for legit stuff
Post by: anarcho47 on July 19, 2011, 07:41 pm
^ Even better... Save the trip!
Title: Re: PROTIP: Dont use tor to check tracking - even for legit stuff
Post by: Raffael on July 19, 2011, 08:00 pm
packagemapping.com for all your TOR package tracking needs.
Much obliged. Most useful indeed.
Title: Re: PROTIP: Dont use tor to check tracking - even for legit stuff
Post by: Coast2Coast on July 20, 2011, 05:44 pm
another option is a to purchase clean socks proxies and chain it with tor.
Title: Re: PROTIP: Dont use tor to check tracking - even for legit stuff
Post by: Roger67 on July 20, 2011, 09:35 pm
another option is a to purchase clean socks proxies and chain it with tor.
+1
Title: Re: PROTIP: Dont use tor to check tracking - even for legit stuff
Post by: theonetheonlyandy on July 21, 2011, 02:38 pm
another option is a to purchase clean socks proxies and chain it with tor.

whats a clean socks proxy?
Title: Re: PROTIP: Dont use tor to check tracking - even for legit stuff
Post by: erko78 on August 03, 2011, 09:35 pm
Great post,  thanks for the info!
Title: Re: PROTIP: Dont use tor to check tracking - even for legit stuff
Post by: BashfulBetty on August 20, 2011, 05:59 pm
packagemapping.com for all your TOR package tracking needs.
Much obliged. Most useful indeed.

Just so I'm clear:  You are saying to use packagemapping.com with TOR?  It would make sense that going through packagemapping would mask that the request is coming through TOR, but i want to make sure this is what you mean.

Thanks
 
Title: Re: PROTIP: Dont use tor to check tracking - even for legit stuff
Post by: quinone on September 18, 2011, 03:41 am
go to a coffee shop with your laptop and connect to the wireless there and check it.

If your going to go out to check tracking its better to just go to an Internet Cafe.

There is much less likely a chance of anything ever being tracked back to you if you use a random computer that's not yours vs. your own laptop.  The MAC address of your wireless card is encapsulated in each packet of data transferred.
Title: Re: PROTIP: Dont use tor to check tracking - even for legit stuff
Post by: peaceloveharmony on September 18, 2011, 04:06 am
All non.onion sites should be used without Tor.
:D

The purpose of TOR is to anonymize connections to non onion sites. The whole hidden service feature is just an additional feature which was added later. 

And i think people should use TOR to check tracking for legit stuff. If postal agencies really flag mail in this case, they would stop doing it after enough people check legal mail tracking with TOR because it would make no sense if much more of the flaged mail is legal.
Title: Re: PROTIP: Dont use tor to check tracking - even for legit stuff
Post by: DwightEAnderson on September 18, 2011, 03:36 pm
And i think people should use TOR to check tracking for legit stuff. If postal agencies really flag mail in this case, they would stop doing it after enough people check legal mail tracking with TOR because it would make no sense if much more of the flaged mail is legal.


You are SO right!  MORE TOR!  TOR traffic would not be as easy to track nor could LE just assume its use is for nefarious purposes!
Title: Re: PROTIP: Dont use tor to check tracking - even for legit stuff
Post by: LexusMiles on September 23, 2011, 11:19 pm
What about a VPN?
Not unless it's private.
I dont understand VPN = Virtual PRIVATE Network ? Yh, Im a bit slow sometimes, lol.

Popular VPN tunnels (Vyper, Relakks, Perfect-privacy, etc) are a shared resources with single IPs (just like tor exit nodes) and therefore, may be flagged as anonymizers. I think what Dread meant by 'private' is that you ask for a dedicated IP (or build you own VPN using a VPS).