Full Disclosure

[Defcon]

[Wa1ter White]

I want to believe.

[nw nugz]

Great to see this post !

[AstroHaven]

<3

[ChemCat]

Huge Hugs to ya, Defcon 



   Chem


               

[murakumo]

mmm bop bop full disclooosure.

But thanks for keeping us informed Defcon. Much love.

[Trainwrecked]

Thank you for the update, Defcon.  =)

[hotmama]

I love you Defcon!
Wish I could give you a big smack on the lips

[dimon114]

So the coins were in hot storage because 3 days later some of them would be used for AF? why have them sit in hot storage for 3 days?

Not being sarcastic or provocative or w.e, I just really don't get it.

[Lief]

One question Defcon. You say your personal funds have gone. Which is presumably why you're not offering to help repay the community with both your own profits and future SR profits.....But... Why would you keep your personal funds in the marketplace and not in a wallet off-site. What if SR had been seized by the feds?

[thesoloist]

so we should stop being human
fall into line
forget about your incompetence....

now asking questions
being critical is negative

we should all smile
cos we're getting fucked by defcon...

you are a fucking curse
an incompetent shit

your mother was obviously on that toilet seat for 9 months!

pay back what you owe....

[Defcon]

One question Defcon. You say your personal funds have gone. Which is presumably why you're not offering to help repay the community with both your own profits and future SR profits.....But... Why would you keep your personal funds in the marketplace and not in a wallet off-site. What if SR had been seized by the feds?

The majority of my commission fees were also sitting in our infrastructure, I had not withdrawn them to my personal cold storage. When we almost lost cold storage in December I decided to work for six months for free, and publicly announced this. When cold storage was returned, my mindset was already fine with not getting paid.

I decided the best use of money for the community would be for the marketplace itself to build up enough funds to offer BTC hedging services again, like SR1.

This decision, combined with high stress levels, resulted in an unwise amount of commission bitcoins being in our infrastructure.

[HollandOnline]

So the coins were in hot storage because 3 days later some of them would be used for AF? why have them sit in hot storage for 3 days?

Not being sarcastic or provocative or w.e, I just really don't get it.

+1

[Breaking Dab]

Keep working hard Defcon. SILK ROAD WILL LIVE ON!

[BioGen]

Biogenetics trusts you mate

whatever i lost,im cool with it,take your time but make this place the kingdom it once was.

repay the most needed.im here to stay

bg

[parisproject]

only FE market with current feedback system= scammer s heaven

[Defcon]

So the coins were in hot storage because 3 days later some of them would be used for AF? why have them sit in hot storage for 3 days?

Not being sarcastic or provocative or w.e, I just really don't get it.

We thought we would be ready to launch during the weekend, and were delayed. I should have withdrawn hot storage immediately, this is completely my fault. Projecting release dates when collaborating with developers anonymously is very difficult. For those three days, I honestly believed we were within 6 hours of the code being ready to launch at any moment. Again, completely my fault for not withdrawing hot storage immediately after we missed the weekend launch window. (reference last week's "Weekend Update" thread)

[Cheese on Toast]

Do you have a reply to the user 'oracle' who claims DPR2 = Stexo and he in fact took the coin, betrayed ship?

[Lief]

One question Defcon. You say your personal funds have gone. Which is presumably why you're not offering to help repay the community with both your own profits and future SR profits.....But... Why would you keep your personal funds in the marketplace and not in a wallet off-site. What if SR had been seized by the feds?

The majority of my commission fees were also sitting in our infrastructure, I had not withdrawn them to my personal cold storage. When we almost lost cold storage in December I decided to work for six months for free, and publicly announced this. When cold storage was returned, my mindset was already fine with not getting paid.

I decided the best use of money for the community would be for the marketplace itself to build up enough funds to offer BTC hedging services again, like SR1.

This decision, combined with high stress levels, resulted in an unwise amount of commission bitcoins being in our infrastructure.

Yikes. Well, best of luck moving forward. Stress is a bitch to deal/cope with.

[Defcon]

only FE market with current feedback system= scammer s heaven

We are open to suggestions. "Current feedback system" - what quick improvements would you make to enable FE-only to operate safer?

[miss green]

One question Defcon. You say your personal funds have gone. Which is presumably why you're not offering to help repay the community with both your own profits and future SR profits.....But... Why would you keep your personal funds in the marketplace and not in a wallet off-site. What if SR had been seized by the feds?

The majority of my commission fees were also sitting in our infrastructure, I had not withdrawn them to my personal cold storage. When we almost lost cold storage in December I decided to work for six months for free, and publicly announced this. When cold storage was returned, my mindset was already fine with not getting paid.

I decided the best use of money for the community would be for the marketplace itself to build up enough funds to offer BTC hedging services again, like SR1.

This decision, combined with high stress levels, resulted in an unwise amount of commission bitcoins being in our infrastructure.

And what will happen with the vendor bond?

[Wa1ter White]

only FE market with current feedback system= scammer s heaven

We are open to suggestions. "Current feedback system" - what quick improvements would you make to enable FE-only to operate safer?

close registration to new vendors, kick of the known scammers. Job done. Next.

[Santa]

I still have faith in this community, but damn man you always boasted about SR being " like a nuclear bunker for security " and some random hacker can so easily steal every penny??

To be honest, Silk road has been running like absolute shit since the beginning of sr2. Wheres the customer service at? Come on dude, treat your customers better. Stop allowing the scamming vendors. You need to have a full team dedicated to solving customer support issues and banning scamming Vendors. You know who that hacker was??? it was probably a FURIOUS customer that got scammed and vowed to fuck you over. That is a FAILURE on your part.

[Bonnie and Clyde]

Thank you for the post defcon! We are staying here!

SILK ROAD till the END!

B&C

[doctorwhat]

only FE market with current feedback system= scammer s heaven

We are open to suggestions. "Current feedback system" - what quick improvements would you make to enable FE-only to operate safer?

2 things get rid of existing and actively punish scammers.
and no new vendor registration until you have this shit fixed...also how right is  Hiniguel?

[Breaking Dab]

only FE market with current feedback system= scammer s heaven

You can wait as long as you want to post feedback and score so if anyone is scammed they can give a bad review to the vendor. For venders getting scammed there may be an issue with scammers writing negative reviews wanting to get paid off with coin on top of the drugs they recieved.

[IshitBacon]

As I lift a Beezy in the air in support for the freedom fighters

Sometimes wars cost a lot of treasure.

: ( :

[miss green]

only FE market with current feedback system= scammer s heaven

We are open to suggestions. "Current feedback system" - what quick improvements would you make to enable FE-only to operate safer?

close registration to new vendors, kick of the known scammers. Job done. Next.

+1

[dimon114]

So the coins were in hot storage because 3 days later some of them would be used for AF? why have them sit in hot storage for 3 days?

Not being sarcastic or provocative or w.e, I just really don't get it.

We thought we would be ready to launch during the weekend, and were delayed. I should have withdrawn hot storage immediately, this is completely my fault. Projecting release dates when collaborating with developers anonymously is very difficult. For those three days, I honestly believed we were within 6 hours of the code being ready to launch at any moment. Again, completely my fault for not withdrawing hot storage immediately after we missed the weekend launch window. (reference last week's "Weekend Update" thread)

Well that sure is honest lol, didn't expect that. Hard to imagine Defcon making a similar misteak after having to take all that blame, and I can't really ask for much more then that...

Anyway, I say all the people trolling after they were told they would be compensated should get their coin LAST :d
...Since you are all so sure you've been robbed by the staff and all

[hotmama]

I'm so happy with you Defcon for taking questions and making this community believe again. Lesson learned for the next possible trouble Lord forbid, be around right away for those with little faith.

[LurkerFuckYouCensors]

How about we leave this place and go to themarketplace.i2p that already has multisig?

You've stayed off the internet for weeks? For opsec? Give me a fucking break. If that's the case you have no damn business running this site at all.

Frankly at best you're incompetent and at worst you've ripped us all off.

Supposedly you've spent this long working hard on security and making this site impenetrable, but decided to leave the internet for a week?

Even if you're telling the truth, there's no way anyone with their head screwed straight will use this site again. Sorry.

With FE too? Everyone will get ripped off, you will make (undeserved) commision, and then you'll retire with even more funds.

I can't believe that you think you can pull this shit again. Hopefully people will open their eyes and move to a real multisig market that already exists, run by someone who isn't an incompetent demogogue bozo.

[BioGen]

i dont want bond back, i dont care about the 15 btc lost.

JUST BUILD US A SAFER PLACE, AND ONLY TRUSTED VENDORS SHOULD GET ACSESS!


FE CAN WORK

TAKE CARE BG IS WITH YOU

BG

[parisproject]

only FE market with current feedback system= scammer s heaven

We are open to suggestions. "Current feedback system" - what quick improvements would you make to enable FE-only to operate safer?

buyer stats/buyer profil /vendor can leave feedback to customer
username attached to every feedback so people can check legitimacy of the user who left feedback,
show on feedback exact cost of product at the time of purchase
link feedbacks to a discussion thread within the market.
feedback rating could be more specific than just 5/5 ,
ability to edit feedback

[Wilfred!]

What about the Money you have lost??  What will happen there?  Will you even attempt to re-pay us?

This is a HUGE issue that everyone needs to know. ?

[CCH Pounder]

Ok, spammed my way up just to say while I am a little pissed you guarenteed our coins would never be lost again after the fall of SR1 and then you lost them, I respect that you intend to reimburst the community.

There definitely needs to be more of a distance between users and the SR team. We are here to conduct business not to make friends. The SR teams needs to focus more on SR and less on the screaching bitches on this forum. If you keep apologising and keep trying to appease these asshole trolls they will drag you down.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the trolls on here were actually LE trying to demoralize the SR team. If they are, it certainly seems to have worked.

In any case, I applaud you for admitting your shortcomings and your perserverence in these tough times.

Peace and fucking,

[Tang]

Will we be reimbursed at any point?

We have no idea how long this will take, but yes. Even if this takes us a year, all funds will eventually be repaid 100%.

[LurkerFuckYouCensors]

Like you needed all of your bitcoins in "hot storage" to pay off the autofinalize balance- you only needed a small bit.

Why would we use this site? Because it has a green camel? Because it has a bunch of bullshit political "we are most wanted" "we aren't doing this for the money" bullshit behind it?

It's time to move on, people. Don't fall for this again. Don't make us all sad. This site has been running extremely shittily from the start. Basic updates don't happen. Constant bugs keep occuring.

Move onto themarketplace.i2p with actual multisig. Loki was right, and you all got dicked up the ass.

[whom]

[Tihkal103]

Perhaps using the forums to verify new vendors before granting them venodr status?
Best of luck

[ganjaboy]

Will we be reimbursed at any point?

We have no idea how long this will take, but yes. Even if this takes us a year, all funds will eventually be repaid 100%.

well, how would you know? who to repay and what amount?

and i doubt it but still i will wait on it..let see what kind of man is behind their wordss..

[Defcon]

How about we leave this place and go to themarketplace.i2p that already has multisig?

themarketplace encourages users to download a custom bitcoin client. This is a terrible security practice, and largely why we want to improve existing bitcoin clients through official channels rather than providing our own bitcoin client with potential malware.

Never download a binary from the darknet and execute it on your computer.

[doctorwhat]

HOW ACCURATE IS HINIGUEL, i think this needs to be addressed....

[IshitBacon]

Like you needed all of your bitcoins in "hot storage" to pay off the autofinalize balance- you only needed a small bit.

Why would we use this site? Because it has a green camel? Because it has a bunch of bullshit political "we are most wanted" "we aren't doing this for the money" bullshit behind it?

It's time to move on, people. Don't fall for this again. Don't make us all sad. This site has been running extremely shittily from the start. Basic updates don't happen. Constant bugs keep occuring.

Move onto themarketplace.i2p with actual multisig. Loki was right, and you all got dicked up the ass.

This guy really seems to know his shit!!

Why shouldn’t we fallow him?

As he walks out we lock the fcking door so his bitch ass cant come back to use the service that he slams. I’m sure you will be back. You probably can’t get a real connect in RL anyway.

[Wilfred!]

dont give this fucker the OK, that is 'OK' to loose this much money. Our money.  Bio Gen the 15k that you lost.  what the fuck.  this shit is wrong.  Its should NOT happen.  and now you want this fucker to go and re-build another one.  whats going to happen next.  loose all the coins again.  fail.

Mate what is being done about the money that has been lost???   

MANN the fuck UP and tell us VENDORS.  (your lively hood) what is going to be done about getting us our coins back. 

Do you seriously just think people will follow you blindly into your next FUCKUP. 
If you want to live buy anything you preach you will do whats right and that's get us vendors back our BTC.
Tell us what the fuck is really happening.

[Dr,Manhattan]

I love you Defcon!
Wish I could give you a big smack on the lips

WTF?

[CCH Pounder]

Like you needed all of your bitcoins in "hot storage" to pay off the autofinalize balance- you only needed a small bit.

Why would we use this site? Because it has a green camel? Because it has a bunch of bullshit political "we are most wanted" "we aren't doing this for the money" bullshit behind it?

It's time to move on, people. Don't fall for this again. Don't make us all sad. This site has been running extremely shittily from the start. Basic updates don't happen. Constant bugs keep occuring.

Move onto themarketplace.i2p with actual multisig. Loki was right, and you all got dicked up the ass.

Lurkerfuckyoucensors

Why haven't you fucked off to another marketplace yet you sad wee cunt? Why are you still here doing here? What have you achieved so far by being an annoying prick? You are free to use another site and yet you stay here and crawl around the forums begging for attention like a pathetic little asshole.

Well done...

[LurkerFuckYouCensors]

Electrum is open source. It's not their client. Everything is open source.

Maybe we shouldn't download tor either since it's a download.

[smoor.be]

good info Defcon.

thank you.

[BreakOnThrough]

Tough to believe all your personal funds were sitting in SR along with all the escrow funds.

[thesoloist]

Full disclosure

defcon you should be working for david cameron...i must admit you are good at spinning webs around these sheep.....wtf....

if you are such an internet warrior pay back what is owed
and step down from your position, you do not have the competence to run this
do not listen to your ego...you do not own silk road it is we who make this place special....

you are a real cunt....i swear if i ever saw you..i would break your fucking rat neck....

now all of a sudden you have no funds
before you stated you would pay people most affected....
wtf...vendor bonds should be re-imbursed
you should be paying vendors to list on your scummy site....

silk road is a dream....
you are the fucking nightmare...

and all you sheep
walk with this fool to your slaughter

[AfricanCanadianBrotha]

[LurkerFuckYouCensors]

Like you needed all of your bitcoins in "hot storage" to pay off the autofinalize balance- you only needed a small bit.

Why would we use this site? Because it has a green camel? Because it has a bunch of bullshit political "we are most wanted" "we aren't doing this for the money" bullshit behind it?

It's time to move on, people. Don't fall for this again. Don't make us all sad. This site has been running extremely shittily from the start. Basic updates don't happen. Constant bugs keep occuring.

Move onto themarketplace.i2p with actual multisig. Loki was right, and you all got dicked up the ass.

Lurkerfuckyoucensors

Why haven't you fucked off to another marketplace yet you sad wee cunt? Why are you still here doing here? What have you achieved so far by being an annoying prick? You are free to use another site and yet you stay here and crawl around the forums begging for attention like a pathetic little asshole.

Well done...

I've managed to get a few people to go to The Marketplace, which won't shove a dick up your ass.

I've illuminated an obvious scam which has taken place.

[Ermahgerd Drugs]

FE on all listings?

This will end well. lol

[IshitBacon]

dont give this fucker the OK, that is 'OK' to loose this much money. Our money.  Bio Gen the 15k that you lost.  what the fuck.  this shit is wrong.  Its should NOT happen.  and now you want this fucker to go and re-build another one.  whats going to happen next.  loose all the coins again.  fail.

Mate what is being done about the money that has been lost???   

MANN the fuck UP and tell us VENDORS.  (your lively hood) what is going to be done about getting us our coins back. 

Do you seriously just think people will follow you blindly into your next FUCKUP. 
If you want to live buy anything you preach you will do whats right and that's get us vendors back our BTC.
Tell us what the fuck is really happening.

If you were dumb enough to have your whole life invested on SR a darknet market place. Then sorry but maybe you need a kick in your dumb ass.

I do feel for all who lost but it wasn’t just one person so don’t act like you’re above anyone else.

[AfricanCanadianBrotha]

dont give this fucker the OK, that is 'OK' to loose this much money. Our money.  Bio Gen the 15k that you lost.  what the fuck.  this shit is wrong.  Its should NOT happen.  and now you want this fucker to go and re-build another one.  whats going to happen next.  loose all the coins again.  fail.

Mate what is being done about the money that has been lost???   

MANN the fuck UP and tell us VENDORS.  (your lively hood) what is going to be done about getting us our coins back. 

Do you seriously just think people will follow you blindly into your next FUCKUP. 
If you want to live buy anything you preach you will do whats right and that's get us vendors back our BTC.
Tell us what the fuck is really happening.

If you were dumb enough to have your whole life invested on SR a darknet market place. Then sorry but maybe you need a kick in you dumb ass.

I do feel for all who lost but it wasn’t just one person so don’t act like you’re above anyone else.

you rock i shit bacon that is so true so sweet

[LurkerFuckYouCensors]

How about we leave this place and go to themarketplace.i2p that already has multisig?

themarketplace encourages users to download a custom bitcoin client. This is a terrible security practice, and largely why we want to improve existing bitcoin clients through official channels rather than providing our own bitcoin client with potential malware.

Never download a binary from the darknet and execute it on your computer.

By the way BitcoinQT supports multisig.

[artwartw]

Thanks Defcon, respect for doing what you did in the aftermath and carrying out actions in the future to back up your sentiments. Heres to coming back better more secure.  Waiting anxiously for it.

[horse]

anyone who stays at this point deserves whatever comes. i've defended the new iteration of SR too many times - I'm done. catch me at the marketplace.

[shadinga]

I hope you will ensure that all trusted vendors who have reported the troubles that the loss of cash has caused them are prioritized and bailed out of their situations as soon as possible.  I'm sure you're aware that there are some very frightened people around these parts at the moment.  Let's hope that no blood is spilled because of this security oversight.  Good luck and +1 for your frank post.

[LurkerFuckYouCensors]

anyone who stays at this point deserves whatever comes. i've defended the new iteration of SR too many times - I'm done. catch me at the marketplace.

Thank fucking god.

These personality cults of "revolutionaries" are starting to annoy me.

Onto the future!

And no, having an open-source python plugin is not dangerous. This is in contrast to the entire SR site itself, which is NOT open source.

[thesoloist]

Defcon people do not believe in you.....
they want to believe in the road...and since you are the main messenger they have to come through you.....
but its not actually you they are believing in....still they are sheep as they are unable to see through the messengers bullshit half disclosed LIES....

now this is personal
IF YOU EVER GET NICKED BY THE OLD BILL
ANY LOCK UP YOU FIND YOURSELF IN
I WILL MAKE CONTACT WITH HEADS IN THAT NICK!

EVEN IF I HAVE TO GET SHIPPED THEIR MYSELF I WILL....
THIS IS PERSONAL....
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ROAD

I WILL SEE TO IT THAT YOU GET SHANKED UP..GOOD AND PROPER...YOU CUNT

Stealth: The above is disgusting. The fact that you would even say something like this defies the limits of my understanding of the human psyche. I'm leaving this obvious threat of violence and statement of ignorance so that every person who reads this thread will ignore your future "contributions."

[LurkerFuckYouCensors]

Defcon people do not believe in you.....
they want to believe in the road...and since you are the main messenger they have to come through you.....
but its not actually you they are believing in....still they are sheep as they are unable to see through the messengers bullshit half disclosed LIES....

now this is personal
IF YOU EVER GET NICKED BY THE OLD BILL
ANY LOCK UP YOU FIND YOURSELF IN
I WILL MAKE CONTACT WITH HEADS IN THAT NICK!

EVEN IF I HAVE TO GET SHIPPED THEIR MYSELF I WILL....
THIS IS PERSONAL....
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ROAD

I WILL SEE TO IT THAT YOU GET SHANKED UP..GOOD AND PROPER...YOU CUNT

Careful. I see a ban coming.

[dimon114]

Wow still so much hate here...

But what really happened?!

There was a magic site where people made lots of money;
The site was robbed for less then the ammount made on it in 1 month;
The staff of the site has promised to return 100% of this money;
People blame staff for incompetence?;




Profit.

[Wilfred!]

dont give this fucker the OK, that is 'OK' to loose this much money. Our money.  Bio Gen the 15k that you lost.  what the fuck.  this shit is wrong.  Its should NOT happen.  and now you want this fucker to go and re-build another one.  whats going to happen next.  loose all the coins again.  fail.

Mate what is being done about the money that has been lost???   

MANN the fuck UP and tell us VENDORS.  (your lively hood) what is going to be done about getting us our coins back. 

Do you seriously just think people will follow you blindly into your next FUCKUP. 
If you want to live buy anything you preach you will do whats right and that's get us vendors back our BTC.
Tell us what the fuck is really happening.

If you were dumb enough to have your whole life invested on SR a darknet market place. Then sorry but maybe your need a kick in you dumb ass.

I do feel for all who lost but it wasn’t just one person so don’t act like you’re above anyone else.

I do not have my whole life invested in SR. I do vend on darkent sites as a full time gig however.

I have not mentioned the figure I have lost as that is unimportant.  what is important is he has lost 4000 of the community's BTC.  that needs to be repaid to the community.  But you watch.  Defcon continue to reep in commissions on sr3.  he wont let the vendors that have lost thousands pay no commissions.  good old fucking 8%.

[r0guebubbles]

Silk Road is regrouping for 24-48hrs after suffering a major attack.

What you should have done earlier, instead of being incompetent and keeping a market open that was full of bugs. And look, now our money is gone! Every single time you rush things cause people start whining about bugs. Then what you think happens? Seriously you don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand it. You could have closed SR and opened up when it was fully functional and secure. We sure all would have been better off.

I respect you take responsibility for your mistakes. But I'm thinking your ship took a big blow. I hope for you guys it will recover.

Well, what's done is done, no point in bitching anymore I guess.

Btw, what's this thing about being off internet for a week? And you run a black market? Reality check?
 

[horse]

i truly am sorry to ross ulbricht for what this site has become. that's it, i'm out of here, thanks for the memories guys.

[riseup]

[fredflintstone]

fuck this nonsense.

dude scammed us all and you guys are just believing this bullshit and lining up asking for another kick in the dick.

[LurkerFuckYouCensors]

Come on people! Onto THE MARKETPLACE a site that doesn't overuse metaphors (ships and captains) and isn't full of shit.

Looks like this pirate ship is a sewage ship.

[bluerizla4u]

Do you have a reply to the user 'oracle' who claims DPR2 = Stexo and he in fact took the coin, betrayed ship?

[hotmama]

Defcon has apologized in the most humble manner possible. Let's forgive and forget past problems and unite with our leader into a glorious future. He said everyone will be paid even if it takes a year and he is not financially benefiting from the site. I feel sad for Defcon trying to hold this together with no funds available to live on. Stay strong honey and we will help! Now let's get back to doing business and get some money to Defcon.

xxooxxoo

[bluerizla4u]

HOW ACCURATE IS HINIGUEL, i think this needs to be addressed....

[Wilfred!]

hot mama you want to give this fat pig more of your money? what the fuck is wrong with everyone

[IshitBacon]

dont give this fucker the OK, that is 'OK' to loose this much money. Our money.  Bio Gen the 15k that you lost.  what the fuck.  this shit is wrong.  Its should NOT happen.  and now you want this fucker to go and re-build another one.  whats going to happen next.  loose all the coins again.  fail.

Mate what is being done about the money that has been lost???   

MANN the fuck UP and tell us VENDORS.  (your lively hood) what is going to be done about getting us our coins back. 

Do you seriously just think people will follow you blindly into your next FUCKUP. 
If you want to live buy anything you preach you will do whats right and that's get us vendors back our BTC.
Tell us what the fuck is really happening.

If you were dumb enough to have your whole life invested on SR a darknet market place. Then sorry but maybe your need a kick in you dumb ass.

I do feel for all who lost but it wasn’t just one person so don’t act like you’re above anyone else.

I do not have my whole life invested in SR. I do vend on darkent sites as a full time gig however.

I have not mentioned the figure I have lost as that is unimportant.  what is important is he has lost 4000 of the community's BTC.  that needs to be repaid to the community.  But you watch.  Defcon continue to reep in commissions on sr3.  he wont let the vendors that have lost thousands pay no commissions.  good old fucking 8%.

You are 100% correct.

To the guy that whips is his ass  from money that he only makes on darknet. Maybe you should stock up on toilet paper because you are investing in the riskiest market. Riskier than any stock market.

You are the one who just outed  themselves as being the fool around here.

[dimon114]

dont give this fucker the OK, that is 'OK' to loose this much money. Our money.  Bio Gen the 15k that you lost.  what the fuck.  this shit is wrong.  Its should NOT happen.  and now you want this fucker to go and re-build another one.  whats going to happen next.  loose all the coins again.  fail.

Mate what is being done about the money that has been lost???   

MANN the fuck UP and tell us VENDORS.  (your lively hood) what is going to be done about getting us our coins back. 

Do you seriously just think people will follow you blindly into your next FUCKUP. 
If you want to live buy anything you preach you will do whats right and that's get us vendors back our BTC.
Tell us what the fuck is really happening.

If you were dumb enough to have your whole life invested on SR a darknet market place. Then sorry but maybe your need a kick in you dumb ass.

I do feel for all who lost but it wasn’t just one person so don’t act like you’re above anyone else.

I do not have my whole life invested in SR. I do vend on darkent sites as a full time gig however.

I have not mentioned the figure I have lost as that is unimportant.  what is important is he has lost 4000 of the community's BTC.  that needs to be repaid to the community.  But you watch.  Defcon continue to reep in commissions on sr3.  he wont let the vendors that have lost thousands pay no commissions.  good old fucking 8%.

ummm why sr3? sr2 was robbed, not shut down.

also, wasn't it 4%, 6% and 8% depending on how much you sell?

[Wilfred!]

HOW ACCURATE IS HINIGUEL, i think this needs to be addressed....

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[doctorwhat]

HOW ACCURATE IS HINIGUEL, i think this needs to be addressed....

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[lashesxo]

Great to hear from you. 

[gaust]

Great message.  Inspires some confidence.

But it certainly appears that the hacker may have had inside information or influence to perpetrate his theft. 

The questions around Cirrus, Stexo, DPR2 and the FBI are troubling.  Plus Oracle's psyops and Hinigul's rants.  That's a lot of smoke for no fire.  Do you really trust the co-admin, DPR2, Stexo, or whoever?  Can you say anything else to give us confidene in you that you're not being deceived?

[Santa]

[r0guebubbles]

HOW ACCURATE IS HINIGUEL, i think this needs to be addressed....

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THIS?

[Wilfred!]

HOW ACCURATE IS HINIGUEL, i think this needs to be addressed....

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[Mindfun]

LONG LIVE SR I BELIEVE

[doctorwhat]

HOW ACCURATE IS HINIGUEL, i think this needs to be addressed....

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THIS?

whoever posted this question must be smart.

[dimon114]

HOW ACCURATE IS HINIGUEL, i think this needs to be addressed....

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THIS?

whoever posted this question must be smart.

Yeah, I hear he's a doctor

[IshitBacon]

HOW ACCURATE IS HINIGUEL, i think this needs to be addressed....

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THIS?

whoever posted this question must be smart.

They really are

They are my mentor

They offer training in the art of douch baggery

The thing is…. I don’t think they are offering it on SR anymore. So sad

: ( :

[thesoloist]

defcon is the tony blair of hidden marketplaces...

low down dirty grimy sleazy cunt scum!

[hotmama]

I'm reading Defcon's post for the third time and I'm in tears. How painful this all must be for him guys. Imagine his life, lonely, scared, with no money left, trying to save our community. Please open the market and I'll buy whatever I can afford to help get you some commission. Stay healthy great one we will come to your aid in this time of need.

xxooxxoo

[doctorwhat]

HOW ACCURATE IS HINIGUEL, i think this needs to be addressed....

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

THIS?

whoever posted this question must be smart.

They really are

They are my mentor

They offer training in the art of douch baggery

The thing is…. I don’t think they are offering it on SR anymore. So sad

: ( :

oh dont worry it will be but youll have to FE. totes wont scam you.

[thesoloist]

I'm reading Defcon's post for the third time and I'm in tears. How painful this all must be for him guys. Imagine his life, lonely, scared, with no money left, trying to save our community. Please open the market and I'll buy whatever I can afford to help get you some commission. Stay healthy great one we will come to your aid in this time of need.

xxooxxoo

Bitch please tell me your smoking CRACK!

[IshitBacon]

low down dirty grimy sleazy cunt scum!

WHAT?!?!?!? who doxd my code name for your mom!???


noooooooo how will I get in touch with her now? what a fcking herpes riddled dickhead

: ( :

[shashimartell]

I am a believer, DefCon.  Fuck the lynch-mob, carry on and be safe.  I appreciate all you do for the community and the cause.  I can't image the pressure you must feel from within the org and from some of these fucks on the forum.   Thank you....peace and good vibs+ to you and all mods and admins.................cheers

[magicbox]

only FE market with current feedback system= scammer s heaven

We are open to suggestions. "Current feedback system" - what quick improvements would you make to enable FE-only to operate safer?

can t believe you have to ask this question

hm..pretty concerning to say the least.

there is no "quick" improvement,a new feedback system must be top priority ,whatever time it takes you shouldn t  open the market without a proper feedback system or your site is bound to be scammer s land.

[natdance]

Thank you Defcon.  Don't mind the trolls, they'll always be there.

Everyone needs to accept the risk of using any marketplace like SR2.  You may lose your money.

Thank you for building SR2. We will rise again.

[FredandFlintstone]

Defcon, you have one of the most difficult, important, and thankless jobs that I can fathom. You have always put this community and the goals of Silk Road before yourself. I cannot imagine what all you have given up for this movement. Even when disaster strikes, when everyone is asking to bury you alive, you keep going. Just by stepping into this position you will probably be hunted down for the rest of your life, yet you continue to work day and night putting aside everything else for the movement, and for that I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart. You and the rest of the Dev Team/Moderators/Admins/Etc., Thank You. We love you.

[artwartw]

Here to stay, and staying positive, enough reposts of hate and negativity, truly shitty time for everyone. Be positive try to move forward. Otherwise, we get how you feel its been posted, over and over. Keep your head up Defcon, and other mods. Its not easy for sure, hoping site comes back soon.

[Porsche_918]

I personally do not believe this was an inside job, but that doesn't mean I'm not pissed at the lack of progress. When SR2 first started, the intro thread stated that a lot of lessons were learned, and that because of those lessons, a different BTC system would be used in which our wallets would be safe, even if LE took it down or it was hacked... and we unfortunaly trusted that. On SR1, I had purchased a very decent amount of items (prob more than average, but not very high), and I was never scammed once. Then SR2 came, and it became a haven for scammers. It seems like people who scam 10s of thousands of dollars, like nursejackie, were allowed to continue and do so with almost absolute impunity. I think most of these scammers felt more assured of their ability to continue their damage than Bashar al-Assad does. On top of that, all the website issues and no auto finalization really made most of us feel uncomfortable buying from SR2, and now with all our BTCs stolen... well, I dunno. Seems like quite a few people will stop buying on SR, but I also don't think it's completly dead. It will be on life support until auto-finalize is implemented, but if there are no more problems between now and then, I think SR may be able to make a recovery. I do understand that a lot of SR mods put a ton of time and effort into SR, as well as an almost unbelievable amount of risk (I wouldn't take the risk they are taking for a billion dollars in the bank), but they do make quite a lot of $$$, and I am very dissapointed that many/most of their promises never came to fruition, especially those designed to protect our BTC. I won't be coming back to SR, at least for now, but if everything goes smootly for the next few months, they are able to implement auto finaliztion and they crack down hard on scammers, I may come back (as may many others).

[baller69]

like everyone else has said - Iwant to believe...

I'm not going to lie, it's extremely difficult to stay positive - especially after losing a bunch of money.

[ondrun_]

HOW ACCURATE IS HINIGUEL, i think this needs to be addressed....

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[doctorwhat]

ill be positive after i get an answer to that question...seems like a bunch of people want to know.

[eightoeight]

2. A community needs to be comfortable with regular downtime - especially during periods when community safety and the safety of its money could be threatened. A good staff will be responsibly paranoid and hitting killswitches as they deem necessary, and should not be afraid of their community panicking each time precaution is exercised.

I dont want to be a pain in the ass but Defcon, seriously? How is that a lesson that you or we should've been learning? Didn't we (vendors) asked for you to take the market down COMPLETELY until the resolution center would be considered safe 100%? As the reason for postponing updates was always security? The market was up for weeks, making the backlog fill up more and more, and making the forums fill up with panic even more. Filling your forum staff with even more frustration about telling the same story over and over again.

If it was taken down for this cause, you would still have trolls and people complaining, but when you would've gotten back up it would have earned you all credits and people would be forgetting about it. People would be more confident about future downtime too. Now this has made you look like idiots and this is the lesson you've learned out of it? Get the fuck out of here.

I have said to you in a private message earlier regarding this mess, my upmost respect for doing stuff for people while risking your life doing so, but don't come up saying that you've learned that WE should be more comfortable with downtime. You should've learned that we can get more comfortable with downtime by showing us that you're actually listening and fixing stuff..

I still feel like you guys have guts to keep showing up with updates now that everything has gotten out of hand, have to say that. But what's this update actually saying? It's alot of looking back on what happened, i appreciate all the info, but what are you going to do from here? Is the market opening? Are losses going to be paid back or are we sharing the losses? Why isn't the market opening without escrow for vendors to try and make up for their losses? Whats happening with the crew, are you expanding so scammers can be avoided?

Maybe i have not read all responses and missed some of these things but it's pretty important information in my opinion. And no, i'm not a troll. I have been supporting your asses and trying to be realistic and positive to all of your users . I might sound negative, but its not that bad. If you're honestly showing face and excuse for your mistakes that's fine and i appreciate that but what about solutions, what about NOW (not the near future, but now)?

[r0guebubbles]

HOW ACCURATE IS HINIGUEL, i think this needs to be addressed....

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Dont expect an answer on that one. Defcon is in his closet for OPSEC. Off internet. Jezus Christ! What a joke!

[horse]

i'd like to add that these are not trolls. i was here through everything. i was here when they picked up ross. i was here when DPR2 launched the new site and defended him giving interviews and starting a twitter account. i was here for all the ddos attacks. i was here when our brothers were arrested. i was here when DPR2 fled, and oracle was spreading FUD on purpose. i was here through more DDOSing.

but this, this is too much. anyone who stays is a fool. anyone who "believes in our captain" is a fool. anyone who deposits one more bitcoin in SR2 is a fool. it's gutwrenching to see what DPR and defcon have done to silk road. look past your blind support for a man who has fucked you over more times than I can count and you'll see I'm right. if not, you deserve what's coming to you.

[ekemnu]

Hey Defcon, would it be possible to show us some proof-of-work on the support console? Maybe some screenshots of the staff facing interface (shouldn't compromise security one would think). Not saying I don't believe you guys, but having something tangible to show that there WAS work going on behind the scenes would be helpful to dispel the charge that the whole thing was a simple ruse, and what was really going on was that auto-finalization was disabled to allow money to build-up in the market before the heist.

[maximumoutput]

ill be positive after i get an answer to that question...seems like a bunch of people want to know.

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[meltchit]

I'm a paranoid person at the best of times.

So this place is not run by CIA, SR2 was not simply another last ditch effort to steal more money before letting SR die, not convinced!

If I was one of these licenced theives, I would do it again too!

[saganlives2]

2. A community needs to be comfortable with regular downtime - especially during periods when community safety and the safety of its money could be threatened. A good staff will be responsibly paranoid and hitting killswitches as they deem necessary, and should not be afraid of their community panicking each time precaution is exercised.

I dont want to be a pain in the ass but Defcon, seriously? How is that a lesson that you or we should've been learning? Didn't we (vendors) asked for you to take the market down COMPLETELY until the resolution center would be considered safe 100%? As the reason for postponing updates was always security? The market was up for weeks, making the backlog fill up more and more, and making the forums fill up with panic even more. Filling your forum staff with even more frustration about telling the same story over and over again.

If it was taken down for this cause, you would still have trolls and people complaining, but when you would've gotten back up it would have earned you all credits and people would be forgetting about it. People would be more confident about future downtime too. Now this has made you look like idiots and this is the lesson you've learned out of it? Get the fuck out of here.

I have said to you in a private message earlier regarding this mess, my upmost respect for doing stuff for people while risking your life doing so, but don't come up saying that you've learned that WE should be more comfortable with downtime. You should've learned that we can get more comfortable with downtime by showing us that you're actually listening and fixing stuff..

I still feel like you guys have guts to keep showing up with updates now that everything has gotten out of hand, have to say that. But what's this update actually saying? It's alot of looking back on what happened, i appreciate all the info, but what are you going to do from here? Is the market opening? Are losses going to be paid back or are we sharing the losses? Why isn't the market opening without escrow for vendors to try and make up for their losses? Whats happening with the crew, are you expanding so scammers can be avoided?

Maybe i have not read all responses and missed some of these things but it's pretty important information in my opinion. And no, i'm not a troll. I have been supporting your asses and trying to be realistic and positive to all of your users . I might sound negative, but its not that bad. If you're honestly showing face and excuse for your mistakes that's fine and i appreciate that but what about solutions, what about NOW (not the near future, but now)?

A lot of truth in that last quote...

[IshitBacon]

Hey Defcon, would it be possible to show us some proof-of-work on the support console? Maybe some screenshots of the staff facing interface (shouldn't compromise security one would think). Not saying I don't believe you guys, but having something tangible to show that there WAS work going on behind the scenes would be helpful to dispel the charge that the whole thing was a simple ruse, and what was really going on was that auto-finalization was disabled to allow money to build-up in the market before the heist.

yea lets do what we can to help the Feds out.

give me a fcking break, who are you to request shit from anyone.

[doctorwhat]

ill be positive after i get an answer to that question...seems like a bunch of people want to know.

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you should answer this dude he seems to be the voice of the people defcon.

[thesoloist]

ill be positive after i get an answer to that question...seems like a bunch of people want to know.

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you should answer this dude he seems to be the voice of the people defcon.

give him time ...he has to rehearse how hes going to spin it.....

[r0guebubbles]

And naming people who have valid reasons and the right to know what happened to THEIR money on YOUR watch, trolls or tinfoils! Very humble things to say.

I used to love to this place and the mods have my respect, well most of them. But trust restored? Nah sorry

[ekemnu]

Hey Defcon, would it be possible to show us some proof-of-work on the support console? Maybe some screenshots of the staff facing interface (shouldn't compromise security one would think). Not saying I don't believe you guys, but having something tangible to show that there WAS work going on behind the scenes would be helpful to dispel the charge that the whole thing was a simple ruse, and what was really going on was that auto-finalization was disabled to allow money to build-up in the market before the heist.

yea lets do what we can to help the Feds out.

give me a fcking break, who are you to request shit from anyone.

I think you misunderstand what I was asking for, but thanks for being so needlessly aggressive brother.

[doctorwhat]

hey defcon,remember that question you should answer that.

[thesoloist]

hey defcon,remember that question you should answer that.

hes still being briefed by his spin doctors

or hes in opsec mode....

[Defcon]

I am catching up on a lot of communication. Can you specifically ask a full question? I have not read Hin's post yet.

[IshitBacon]

Hey Defcon, would it be possible to show us some proof-of-work on the support console? Maybe some screenshots of the staff facing interface (shouldn't compromise security one would think). Not saying I don't believe you guys, but having something tangible to show that there WAS work going on behind the scenes would be helpful to dispel the charge that the whole thing was a simple ruse, and what was really going on was that auto-finalization was disabled to allow money to build-up in the market before the heist.

yea lets do what we can to help the Feds out.

give me a fcking break, who are you to request shit from anyone.

I think you misunderstand what I was asking for, but thanks for being so needlessly aggressive brother.

Mybad I’m in attack mode because It seems to be raining bitches with a chance of dickheads today.

[r0guebubbles]

I am catching up on a lot of communication. Can you specifically ask a full question? I have not read Hin's post yet.

Just contact him because and I quote him "he will not run to you this time"

[thesoloist]

I am catching up on a lot of communication. Can you specifically ask a full question? I have not read Hin's post yet.

buying time while his spin team brief him on more ways to present half ass disclosures and sell them to the sheep as full disclosures...

[maximumoutput]

I am catching up on a lot of communication. Can you specifically ask a full question? I have not read Hin's post yet.

I sent you a pm, please reply...

[hotmama]

I think Defcon has answered all he needs to at this time for the community. Let's focus on getting some money back into this site and helping out. I'm sure Deffy is working on code for our security and hopefully going to get some needed rest afterwards.

The poor man is living in a mission impossible world and just keeping OPSEC up has to be draining. It takes him one hour of prep just to log in! Doing all of this for us with no money left I might add. I hope he has a roof over his head still.

I wish I could cook you a nice dinner and rub your back Defcon, I know you need it.

[loveformaryjane]

RETURN OUR COINS defcon, man we all know you jacked them.

If you didn't steal the btc than make it up to all of us who lost because you fucked up. YOU & staff should work with no pay until every single user is repaid. You fucked up make it right.

[horse]

Hey Defcon, would it be possible to show us some proof-of-work on the support console? Maybe some screenshots of the staff facing interface (shouldn't compromise security one would think). Not saying I don't believe you guys, but having something tangible to show that there WAS work going on behind the scenes would be helpful to dispel the charge that the whole thing was a simple ruse, and what was really going on was that auto-finalization was disabled to allow money to build-up in the market before the heist.

yea lets do what we can to help the Feds out.

give me a fcking break, who are you to request shit from anyone.

he's someone who gave money for a service only to have it stolen. in most places that's called a dissatisfied customer. get fucking real.

[doctorwhat]

I am catching up on a lot of communication. Can you specifically ask a full question? I have not read Hin's post yet.

hiniguel says, this is in house(rogue agent), and is even oracle. along with other things i would like these answers. also he says he has alot of info about all this..

[komelon]

Defcon I want to know since i Paid my vendor bond like 4-5 days ago doesnt it not seem fair to approve my vendor account since it was paid even though it may have not been approved yet? (please note i have a different name that komelon for the vendor account i made)

[lashesxo]

hotmama, you are ridiculous... but funny.

It's almost like you're hoping he will respond and agree to meet with you.

I understand you probably view him as a hero and it makes your panties wet... but talking about massaging him and cooking him meals is strange. 

[IshitBacon]

Hey Defcon, would it be possible to show us some proof-of-work on the support console? Maybe some screenshots of the staff facing interface (shouldn't compromise security one would think). Not saying I don't believe you guys, but having something tangible to show that there WAS work going on behind the scenes would be helpful to dispel the charge that the whole thing was a simple ruse, and what was really going on was that auto-finalization was disabled to allow money to build-up in the market before the heist.

yea lets do what we can to help the Feds out.

give me a fcking break, who are you to request shit from anyone.

he's someone who gave money for a service only to have it stolen. in most places that's called a dissatisfied customer. get fucking real.

I guess we should call the Better Business Bureau  to investigate this

[dottys boy]

so your saying its our fault for bitching about your shitty service while you wasn't responding to it and just left us guessing for like 6 weeks?

and also..

5. Accept that your community will hate you regardless. In the darknet, you will be crucified by your community if anything ever goes wrong.

this isn't something that is unique to the darknet. it applies to every business ever. customers who've had a bad experience will always shout the loudest about you. just look on the comments on most hotels and restaurants. most will be from disgruntled customers, happy customers will be less likely to tell you about their experience than unhappy ones, always. but just look at it as constructive criticism. you can gauge from it exactly what your customers don't like and then tailor your business to suit their needs better. bad feedback is one of the most helpful resources when designing your business.

business is always about providing a service that makes people happy. giving them the reason to spend their money with you.

[dimon114]

RETURN OUR COINS defcon, man we all know you jacked them.

If you didn't steal the btc than make it up to all of us who lost because you fucked up. YOU & staff should work with no pay until every single user is repaid. You fucked up make it right.

-_- Mhm, so

"...we all know you stole them....If you didn't steal the BTC..."

xD makes sense

[lashesxo]

Hey Defcon, would it be possible to show us some proof-of-work on the support console? Maybe some screenshots of the staff facing interface (shouldn't compromise security one would think). Not saying I don't believe you guys, but having something tangible to show that there WAS work going on behind the scenes would be helpful to dispel the charge that the whole thing was a simple ruse, and what was really going on was that auto-finalization was disabled to allow money to build-up in the market before the heist.

yea lets do what we can to help the Feds out.

give me a fcking break, who are you to request shit from anyone.

he's someone who gave money for a service only to have it stolen. in most places that's called a dissatisfied customer. get fucking real.

I guess we should call the Better Business Bureau  to investigate this

Hahahaha! 

[hotmama]

hotmama, you are ridiculous... but funny.

It's almost like you're hoping he will respond and agree to meet with you.

I understand you probably view him as a hero and it makes your panties wet... but talking about massaging him and cooking him meals is strange. 

What panties?

[thesoloist]

SR2 THE MOVIE

Scene 1 - Defcon stands on the hill in front of his many followers..pointing towards the half moon...

follower - defcon look me lord the moon has risen....yet i can only see half of its majesty me lord

Defcon - half no. no the moon is whole...

follower 2 - but me lord its a half moon in this nights skie....

Defcon - no, no if i say its whole its whole...you must only believe and it is...

as his followers turn to look at each other in confusion.....they mumble ' yes we must believe'

followers - yes, yes our lord it is whole just as you say it is....it is

( defcon turns to the camera and winks )

scene over!

[r0guebubbles]

I think Defcon has answered all he needs to at this time for the community. Let's focus on getting some money back into this site and helping out. I'm sure Deffy is working on code for our security and hopefully going to get some needed rest afterwards.

The poor man is living in a mission impossible world and just keeping OPSEC up has to be draining. It takes him one hour of prep just to log in! Doing all of this for us with no money left I might add. I hope he has a roof over his head still.

I wish I could cook you a nice dinner and rub your back Defcon, I know you need it.

Didn't know he had groupies

[DoctorClu]

I am catching up on a lot of communication. Can you specifically ask a full question? I have not read Hin's post yet.

I believe what everyone wants is:

Was a staff member involved in the attack, was it Oracle, is Oracle even staff?

I want to know this too obviously...

[horse]

Hey Defcon, would it be possible to show us some proof-of-work on the support console? Maybe some screenshots of the staff facing interface (shouldn't compromise security one would think). Not saying I don't believe you guys, but having something tangible to show that there WAS work going on behind the scenes would be helpful to dispel the charge that the whole thing was a simple ruse, and what was really going on was that auto-finalization was disabled to allow money to build-up in the market before the heist.

yea lets do what we can to help the Feds out.

give me a fcking break, who are you to request shit from anyone.

he's someone who gave money for a service only to have it stolen. in most places that's called a dissatisfied customer. get fucking real.

I guess we should call the Better Business Bureau  to investigate this

business is fucking business, regardless of legality. the reason people come to the darknet is because these admins understand that better than carlos who sells dope on the corner.

[IshitBacon]

so your saying its our fault for bitching about your shitty service while you wasn't responding to it and just left us guessing for like 6 weeks?

and also..

5. Accept that your community will hate you regardless. In the darknet, you will be crucified by your community if anything ever goes wrong.

this isn't something that is unique to the darknet. it applies to every business ever. customers who've had a bad experience will always shout the loudest about you. just look on the comments on most hotels and restaurants. most will be from disgruntled customers, happy customers will be less likely to tell you about their experience than unhappy ones, always. but just look at it as constructive criticism. you can gauge from it exactly what your customers don't like and then tailor your business to suit their needs better. bad feedback is one of the most helpful resources when designing your business.

business is always about providing a service that makes people happy. giving them the reason to spend their money with you.

This may be true, but SR has some "goons" that will go to bat for them also.

[lashesxo]

hotmama, you are ridiculous... but funny.

It's almost like you're hoping he will respond and agree to meet with you.

I understand you probably view him as a hero and it makes your panties wet... but talking about massaging him and cooking him meals is strange. 

What panties?

Being a female, I don't find that comment cute... or attractive.

Plus, you just seem like a dirty whore if I were being honest.. 

[dimon114]

hotmama, you are ridiculous... but funny.

It's almost like you're hoping he will respond and agree to meet with you.

I understand you probably view him as a hero and it makes your panties wet... but talking about massaging him and cooking him meals is strange. 

What panties?

Being a female, I don't find that comment cute... or attractive.

Plus, you just seem like a dirty whore if I were being honest.. 

fight fight fight

[smokealote]

only FE market with current feedback system= scammer s heaven

We are open to suggestions. "Current feedback system" - what quick improvements would you make to enable FE-only to operate safer?

customer Rating is a must you should be able to see the user at the side and be able to click there name and go to there profile which just needs to vendor purchased from and the vendors feedback and time and date this would help stop fake feedback which i think is the main cause of scamming

 also you need to establish strict rules on banning scamers this should be based on customer purchase volume and sellers selling volume  if you have a brand new vendor and 2/3 buyers with 10/20 purchases report not received in a acceptable time periods vendor should be banned immediately 

if you open vendor registration again the vendor bond should be not refunded until multisig escrow is launched then if they are scamming and get banned vendor bond should be shared by the affected

j

[doctorwhat]

I am catching up on a lot of communication. Can you specifically ask a full question? I have not read Hin's post yet.

I believe what everyone wants is:

Was a staff member involved in the attack, was it Oracle, is Oracle even staff?

I want to know this too obviously...

you are no Hurt, doc. you go back to either Smith or McGann right now!(no offense i am just bumping this with some humor, at your expense...but i feel like i paid a grand...i am going make some jokes)

[IshitBacon]

ahahahah

I enjoy that I have invoked an emotional response in you that makes you move your fat lazy cracked out finger to click on it

as I step out for the night, I will be back to catch up on the "hard core" SR fans

: ( :

[Hakibaki]

We all make mistakes. I never had doubts, Defcon didn't become the leader because of his eyes being amazingly beautiful, he was chosen because of his skills.

Fuck all the naysayers! Admins and mods deserve to be treated better, we should be more supportive when they need it, not bitch and make false accusations! You never think of what they are doing for this community, I believe they try as hard as they can. I wonder how would every single one of those bitching scums behave if they were in the admins/mods place.

I say it again, MANY THANKS TO EVERYONE INVOLVED IN RUNNING THIS MARVELOUS PLACE <3

[superbassomatic]

YES. Its glad to have some validation from you that our faith and love was not for nothing. Wow, the tone of the responses in this post compared to Humbled and Furious are like NIGHT AND DAY... some people here should find a better way to vent frustration than ranting online. Nice to see that cooler heads have finally prevailed.

All people make mistakes, not all people can admit them! But we are all here for you! And anyone who isn't... THEN WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE? Soloist, Lucher, etc - us loyals have been shutting you up on the forums for the past two days. You have no legitimate arguments to support your convictions and you never have. I do not expect to be rewarded for my loyalty but I'd like to see you get kicked out of here for spewing such caustic bullshit. Especially as definitive proof of Defcons loyalty currently stares you in the face.

And Im sorry, I hate to say it, but - told you so. And I wasn't the only one saying it. :]

LONG LIVE SR

[dingwall_3]

Like you needed all of your bitcoins in "hot storage" to pay off the autofinalize balance- you only needed a small bit.

Why would we use this site? Because it has a green camel? Because it has a bunch of bullshit political "we are most wanted" "we aren't doing this for the money" bullshit behind it?

It's time to move on, people. Don't fall for this again. Don't make us all sad. This site has been running extremely shittily from the start. Basic updates don't happen. Constant bugs keep occuring.

Move onto themarketplace.i2p with actual multisig. Loki was right, and you all got dicked up the ass.

If Defcon was guilty of stealing the coins,
and
wanted to keep running a market, and has the means to run a market,
wouldnt it just be easier for him to discard sr2 and start a new one ?

it would save having to build up the trust again on a market thats already lost all the coins.
Also he wouldnt have to put up with everyones anger,
if he just changed his name and built a new market.


It doesnt add up ,    is everyone 100% certain this fella Defcon is guilty ?

[doctorwhat]

Clu, i also have a question, i feel transparency is necesarry right now but i understand  you cant give EXACT details, but i want to know hat Hin, told you to prove to you his guys are legit, now like i said i dont expect for you to copy paste, but if he doxxed you you can atleast say that. you know, i feel this will help with the "trust" issue, i am tired of letting you guys give me half answers. i will be calm and cool but first i want the answers that i feel my lost money has bought me. you understand?  i like this place and respect the cause, but i want some answers.

[dottys boy]

defcon, we don't hate you, we just want a decent service. you need to accept that you haven't been providing an acceptable service to either buyers or vendors. you launched a site that was no where near ready and as a result it fucked up. you should have waited and made it ready first, and if you couldn't manage that then you need to accept that maybe this business isn't for you. all the bad feedback should have been screaming that fact to you. you need to read the feedback, not take it personally.

[r0guebubbles]

defcon, we don't hate you, we just want a decent service. you need to accept that you haven't been providing an acceptable service to either buyers or vendors. you launched a site that was no where near ready and as a result it fucked up. you should have waited and made it ready first, and if you couldn't manage that then you need to accept that maybe this business isn't for you. all the bad feedback should have been screaming that fact to you. you need to read the feedback, not take it personally.

exactly! +1

[Dr,Manhattan]

hotmama, you are ridiculous... but funny.

It's almost like you're hoping he will respond and agree to meet with you.

I understand you probably view him as a hero and it makes your panties wet... but talking about massaging him and cooking him meals is strange. 

Yeah,and I bet she is not even hot!
But I know you are LASHES

[maximumoutput]

Clu, i also have a question, i feel transparency is necesarry right now but i understand  you cant give EXACT details, but i want to know hat Hin, told you to prove to you his guys are legit, now like i said i dont expect for you to copy paste, but if he doxxed you you can atleast say that. you know, i feel this will help with the "trust" issue, i am tired of letting you guys give me half answers. i will be calm and cool but first i want the answers that i feel my lost money has bought me. you understand?  i like this place and respect the cause, but i want some answers.

I'm really curious to hear what he said to you also

[doctorwhat]

Clu, i also have a question, i feel transparency is necesarry right now but i understand  you cant give EXACT details, but i want to know hat Hin, told you to prove to you his guys are legit, now like i said i dont expect for you to copy paste, but if he doxxed you you can atleast say that. you know, i feel this will help with the "trust" issue, i am tired of letting you guys give me half answers. i will be calm and cool but first i want the answers that i feel my lost money has bought me. you understand?  i like this place and respect the cause, but i want some answers.

I'm really curious to hear what he said to you also

i like my admin like like my meth, transparent.

[maximumoutput]

Clu, i also have a question, i feel transparency is necesarry right now but i understand  you cant give EXACT details, but i want to know hat Hin, told you to prove to you his guys are legit, now like i said i dont expect for you to copy paste, but if he doxxed you you can atleast say that. you know, i feel this will help with the "trust" issue, i am tired of letting you guys give me half answers. i will be calm and cool but first i want the answers that i feel my lost money has bought me. you understand?  i like this place and respect the cause, but i want some answers.

I'm really curious to hear what he said to you also

i like my admin like like my meth, transparent.

lol true that. After reading through all of the madness I feel like Clu got a lot of undeserved hate from a lot of people but seems to be the only one keeping in contact with everyones posts and being honest.

Will be interesting to hear what he says about that post

[dottys boy]

We all make mistakes. I never had doubts, Defcon didn't become the leader because of his eyes being amazingly beautiful, he was chosen because of his skills.

Fuck all the naysayers! Admins and mods deserve to be treated better, we should be more supportive when they need it, not bitch and make false accusations! You never think of what they are doing for this community, I believe they try as hard as they can. I wonder how would every single one of those bitching scums behave if they were in the admins/mods place.

I say it again, MANY THANKS TO EVERYONE INVOLVED IN RUNNING THIS MARVELOUS PLACE <3

but at the end of the day we are still customers and we are paying them for the service. its not like they are doing this out of the kindness of their hearts and taking great risk to serve us for free. they have to understand business and customer dynamics. customers will move on if you're not providing a service they are happy with. they will go to the other guy who is offering what they want. all the bad forum posts were us telling defcon that we were not happy or satisfied with what he was giving us for our money and that we would be moving on soon if he didn't rectify it. and we all felt like he wasn't really listening or taking us seriously.

[qwerty555]

so because i have not understood well,

the story is that ALL money on silkroad wallets were stolen? not only funds in escrow? All user's money gone?

[doctorwhat]

Clu, i also have a question, i feel transparency is necesarry right now but i understand  you cant give EXACT details, but i want to know hat Hin, told you to prove to you his guys are legit, now like i said i dont expect for you to copy paste, but if he doxxed you you can atleast say that. you know, i feel this will help with the "trust" issue, i am tired of letting you guys give me half answers. i will be calm and cool but first i want the answers that i feel my lost money has bought me. you understand?  i like this place and respect the cause, but i want some answers.

I'm really curious to hear what he said to you also

i like my admin like like my meth, transparent.

lol true that. After reading through all of the madness I feel like Clu got a lot of undeserved hate from a lot of people but seems to be the only one keeping in contact with everyones posts and being honest.

Will be interesting to hear what he says about that post

i agree, i like clu, when his name was getting tossed around, it was worse than anything else. but lets fucking get some answers  Clu buddy, pal. answer my question.

[lashesxo]

hotmama, you are ridiculous... but funny.

It's almost like you're hoping he will respond and agree to meet with you.

I understand you probably view him as a hero and it makes your panties wet... but talking about massaging him and cooking him meals is strange. 

Yeah,and I bet she is not even hot!
But I know you are LASHES

You crack me up, Manhattan! 

[maximumoutput]

Clu, i also have a question, i feel transparency is necesarry right now but i understand  you cant give EXACT details, but i want to know hat Hin, told you to prove to you his guys are legit, now like i said i dont expect for you to copy paste, but if he doxxed you you can atleast say that. you know, i feel this will help with the "trust" issue, i am tired of letting you guys give me half answers. i will be calm and cool but first i want the answers that i feel my lost money has bought me. you understand?  i like this place and respect the cause, but i want some answers.

I'm really curious to hear what he said to you also

i like my admin like like my meth, transparent.

lol true that. After reading through all of the madness I feel like Clu got a lot of undeserved hate from a lot of people but seems to be the only one keeping in contact with everyones posts and being honest.

Will be interesting to hear what he says about that post

i agree, i like clu, when his name was getting tossed around, it was worse than anything else. but lets fucking get some answers  Clu buddy, pal. answer my question.

I'm tired but going to stay up for this lol. Would be cool if you could let us know Doc

[doctorwhat]

Clu, i also have a question, i feel transparency is necesarry right now but i understand  you cant give EXACT details, but i want to know hat Hin, told you to prove to you his guys are legit, now like i said i dont expect for you to copy paste, but if he doxxed you you can atleast say that. you know, i feel this will help with the "trust" issue, i am tired of letting you guys give me half answers. i will be calm and cool but first i want the answers that i feel my lost money has bought me. you understand?  i like this place and respect the cause, but i want some answers.

I'm really curious to hear what he said to you also

i like my admin like like my meth, transparent.

lol true that. After reading through all of the madness I feel like Clu got a lot of undeserved hate from a lot of people but seems to be the only one keeping in contact with everyones posts and being honest.

Will be interesting to hear what he says about that post

i agree, i like clu, when his name was getting tossed around, it was worse than anything else. but lets fucking get some answers  Clu buddy, pal. answer my question.

I'm tired but going to stay up for this lol. Would be cool if you could let us know Doc

just keep quoting it and they will be forced to answer lol

[maximumoutput]

Clu, i also have a question, i feel transparency is necesarry right now but i understand  you cant give EXACT details, but i want to know hat Hin, told you to prove to you his guys are legit, now like i said i dont expect for you to copy paste, but if he doxxed you you can atleast say that. you know, i feel this will help with the "trust" issue, i am tired of letting you guys give me half answers. i will be calm and cool but first i want the answers that i feel my lost money has bought me. you understand?  i like this place and respect the cause, but i want some answers.

I'm really curious to hear what he said to you also

i like my admin like like my meth, transparent.

lol true that. After reading through all of the madness I feel like Clu got a lot of undeserved hate from a lot of people but seems to be the only one keeping in contact with everyones posts and being honest.

Will be interesting to hear what he says about that post

i agree, i like clu, when his name was getting tossed around, it was worse than anything else. but lets fucking get some answers  Clu buddy, pal. answer my question.

I'm tired but going to stay up for this lol. Would be cool if you could let us know Doc

just keep quoting it and they will be forced to answer lol

LOL save us from having to please Clu lol

[aqualung]

If you were dumb enough to have your whole life invested on SR a darknet market place. Then sorry but maybe you need a kick in your dumb ass.

I do feel for all who lost but it wasn’t just one person so don’t act like you’re above anyone else.

Didn't you hear. DefCON was dumb enough to have his whole life invested on SR a darknet market place. I'm sorry but maybe he need a kick in his dumb ass.

[doctorwhat]

Clu, i also have a question, i feel transparency is necesarry right now but i understand  you cant give EXACT details, but i want to know hat Hin, told you to prove to you his guys are legit, now like i said i dont expect for you to copy paste, but if he doxxed you you can atleast say that. you know, i feel this will help with the "trust" issue, i am tired of letting you guys give me half answers. i will be calm and cool but first i want the answers that i feel my lost money has bought me. you understand?  i like this place and respect the cause, but i want some answers.

I'm really curious to hear what he said to you also

i like my admin like like my meth, transparent.

lol true that. After reading through all of the madness I feel like Clu got a lot of undeserved hate from a lot of people but seems to be the only one keeping in contact with everyones posts and being honest.

Will be interesting to hear what he says about that post

i agree, i like clu, when his name was getting tossed around, it was worse than anything else. but lets fucking get some answers  Clu buddy, pal. answer my question.

I'm tired but going to stay up for this lol. Would be cool if you could let us know Doc

just keep quoting it and they will be forced to answer lol

LOL save us from having to please Clu lol

i aint got shit to do.

[maximumoutput]

Clu, i also have a question, i feel transparency is necesarry right now but i understand  you cant give EXACT details, but i want to know hat Hin, told you to prove to you his guys are legit, now like i said i dont expect for you to copy paste, but if he doxxed you you can atleast say that. you know, i feel this will help with the "trust" issue, i am tired of letting you guys give me half answers. i will be calm and cool but first i want the answers that i feel my lost money has bought me. you understand?  i like this place and respect the cause, but i want some answers.

I'm really curious to hear what he said to you also

i like my admin like like my meth, transparent.

lol true that. After reading through all of the madness I feel like Clu got a lot of undeserved hate from a lot of people but seems to be the only one keeping in contact with everyones posts and being honest.

Will be interesting to hear what he says about that post

i agree, i like clu, when his name was getting tossed around, it was worse than anything else. but lets fucking get some answers  Clu buddy, pal. answer my question.

I'm tired but going to stay up for this lol. Would be cool if you could let us know Doc

just keep quoting it and they will be forced to answer lol

LOL save us from having to please Clu lol

i aint got shit to do.

I wonder what he said to him lol

[Dr,Manhattan]

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SR2 massive scam about to hit very soon.
« on: January 31, 2014, 07:52:18 pm »

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no Auto Finalize/no resolution center  coins are pilling up massively whitout anyone even realising  what s coming .

there is propably couple millions $$ just  in escrow alone and no one is fucking complaining.

You guys really think it takes more than a month to implement a resolution center?how dumb  are you

This is about to be the biggest scam in the history of the darkmarkets.

Defcon postponing dates again and again,then annoucing that a fix has been done when clearly it hasn t done shit ?(captcha)in this case.

Can t you fucking see throught their bullshit and blatant lies that the ship is about to go down the drain very soon??wake the fuck up .

[doctorwhat]

Clu, i also have a question, i feel transparency is necesarry right now but i understand  you cant give EXACT details, but i want to know hat Hin, told you to prove to you his guys are legit, now like i said i dont expect for you to copy paste, but if he doxxed you you can atleast say that. you know, i feel this will help with the "trust" issue, i am tired of letting you guys give me half answers. i will be calm and cool but first i want the answers that i feel my lost money has bought me. you understand?  i like this place and respect the cause, but i want some answers.

I'm really curious to hear what he said to you also

i like my admin like like my meth, transparent.

lol true that. After reading through all of the madness I feel like Clu got a lot of undeserved hate from a lot of people but seems to be the only one keeping in contact with everyones posts and being honest.

Will be interesting to hear what he says about that post

i agree, i like clu, when his name was getting tossed around, it was worse than anything else. but lets fucking get some answers  Clu buddy, pal. answer my question.

I'm tired but going to stay up for this lol. Would be cool if you could let us know Doc

just keep quoting it and they will be forced to answer lol

LOL save us from having to please Clu lol

i aint got shit to do.

I wonder what he said to him lol

i think he just said clus real first name or something and that made him realize hin, is legit...

[shadinga]

SR2 THE MOVIE

Scene 1 - Defcon stands on the hill in front of his many followers..pointing towards the half moon...

follower - defcon look me lord the moon has risen....yet i can only see half of its majesty me lord

Defcon - half no. no the moon is whole...

follower 2 - but me lord its a half moon in this nights skie....

Defcon - no, no if i say its whole its whole...you must only believe and it is...

as his followers turn to look at each other in confusion.....they mumble ' yes we must believe'

followers - yes, yes our lord it is whole just as you say it is....it is

( defcon turns to the camera and winks )

scene over!

Cool story but as the moon is always whole whether you see it or not, as an analogy it only serves to demonstrate that assumptions based on a partial view of reality are rarely entirely accurate and it's generally wise to learn from those in the know until you have all the facts.

[utahfuntimes]

When will the site be up so we can follow-up on orders and contact our vendors? Will SR do anything to refund any portion of our coins lost?

These are two questions STILL not addressed!!!!!!!

[maximumoutput]

Clu, i also have a question, i feel transparency is necesarry right now but i understand  you cant give EXACT details, but i want to know hat Hin, told you to prove to you his guys are legit, now like i said i dont expect for you to copy paste, but if he doxxed you you can atleast say that. you know, i feel this will help with the "trust" issue, i am tired of letting you guys give me half answers. i will be calm and cool but first i want the answers that i feel my lost money has bought me. you understand?  i like this place and respect the cause, but i want some answers.

I'm really curious to hear what he said to you also

i like my admin like like my meth, transparent.

lol true that. After reading through all of the madness I feel like Clu got a lot of undeserved hate from a lot of people but seems to be the only one keeping in contact with everyones posts and being honest.

Will be interesting to hear what he says about that post

i agree, i like clu, when his name was getting tossed around, it was worse than anything else. but lets fucking get some answers  Clu buddy, pal. answer my question.

I'm tired but going to stay up for this lol. Would be cool if you could let us know Doc :D

just keep quoting it and they will be forced to answer lol

LOL save us from having to please Clu lol

i aint got shit to do.

I wonder what he said to him lol

i think he just said clus real first name or something and that made him realize hin, is legit...

I think you're right man...that's pretty crazy if he did though right?

[maximumoutput]

When will the site be up so we can follow-up on orders and contact our vendors? Will SR do anything to refund any portion of our coins lost?

These are two questions STILL not addressed!!!!!!!

Two very important questions that I think at least deserve to be answered.

[doctorwhat]

Clu, i also have a question, i feel transparency is necesarry right now but i understand  you cant give EXACT details, but i want to know hat Hin, told you to prove to you his guys are legit, now like i said i dont expect for you to copy paste, but if he doxxed you you can atleast say that. you know, i feel this will help with the "trust" issue, i am tired of letting you guys give me half answers. i will be calm and cool but first i want the answers that i feel my lost money has bought me. you understand?  i like this place and respect the cause, but i want some answers.

I'm really curious to hear what he said to you also

i like my admin like like my meth, transparent.

lol true that. After reading through all of the madness I feel like Clu got a lot of undeserved hate from a lot of people but seems to be the only one keeping in contact with everyones posts and being honest.

Will be interesting to hear what he says about that post

i agree, i like clu, when his name was getting tossed around, it was worse than anything else. but lets fucking get some answers  Clu buddy, pal. answer my question.

I'm tired but going to stay up for this lol. Would be cool if you could let us know Doc

just keep quoting it and they will be forced to answer lol

LOL save us from having to please Clu lol

i aint got shit to do.

I wonder what he said to him lol

i think he just said clus real first name or something and that made him realize hin, is legit...

I think you're right man...that's pretty crazy if he did though right?

yeah man...Clu better be changing that avatar  for taking this long.

[dottys boy]

SR2 THE MOVIE

Scene 1 - Defcon stands on the hill in front of his many followers..pointing towards the half moon...

follower - defcon look me lord the moon has risen....yet i can only see half of its majesty me lord

Defcon - half no. no the moon is whole...

follower 2 - but me lord its a half moon in this nights skie....

Defcon - no, no if i say its whole its whole...you must only believe and it is...

as his followers turn to look at each other in confusion.....they mumble ' yes we must believe'

followers - yes, yes our lord it is whole just as you say it is....it is

( defcon turns to the camera and winks )

scene over!

Cool story but as the moon is always whole whether you see it or not, as an analogy it only serves to demonstrate that assumptions based on a partial view of reality are rarely entirely accurate and it's generally wise to learn from those in the know until you have all the facts.

I pictured a rainbow
You held it in your hands
I had flashes
But you saw the plan
I wandered out in the world for years
While you just stayed in your room
I saw the crescent
You saw the whole of the moon
You were there in the turnstiles
With the wind at your heels
You stretched for the stars
And you know how it feels
To reach too high
Too far
Too soon
You saw the whole of the moon
I was grounded
While you filled the skies
I was dumbfounded by truth
You cut through lies
I saw the rain dirty valley
You saw Brigadoon
I saw the crescent
You saw the whole of the moon
I spoke about wings
You just flew
I wondered I guessed and I tried
You just knew
I sighed
... but you swooned!
I saw the crescent
You saw the whole of the moon
With a torch in your pocket
And the wind at your heels
You climbed on the ladder
And you know how it feels
To get too high
Too far too soon
You saw the whole of the moon
The whole of the moon!
Unicorns and cannonballs
Palaces and piers
Trumpets towers and tenements
Wide oceans full of tears
Flags rags ferryboats
Scimitars and scarves
Every precious dream and vision
Underneath the stars
You climbed on the ladder
With the wind in your sails
You came like comet
Blazing your trail
Too high too far too soon
You saw the whole of the moon

[lashesxo]

SR2 THE MOVIE

Scene 1 - Defcon stands on the hill in front of his many followers..pointing towards the half moon...

follower - defcon look me lord the moon has risen....yet i can only see half of its majesty me lord

Defcon - half no. no the moon is whole...

follower 2 - but me lord its a half moon in this nights skie....

Defcon - no, no if i say its whole its whole...you must only believe and it is...

as his followers turn to look at each other in confusion.....they mumble ' yes we must believe'

followers - yes, yes our lord it is whole just as you say it is....it is

( defcon turns to the camera and winks )

scene over!

Cool story but as the moon is always whole whether you see it or not, as an analogy it only serves to demonstrate that assumptions based on a partial view of reality are rarely entirely accurate and it's generally wise to learn from those in the know until you have all the facts.

Exactly. 

[Ganjedi]

Thanks Defcon, please take the time you need to rebuild security before releasing the market again. I trust it that all coins will be released in the near future and you are a man of your words.

Ganjedi - Here to stay

[maximumoutput]

Clu, i also have a question, i feel transparency is necesarry right now but i understand  you cant give EXACT details, but i want to know hat Hin, told you to prove to you his guys are legit, now like i said i dont expect for you to copy paste, but if he doxxed you you can atleast say that. you know, i feel this will help with the "trust" issue, i am tired of letting you guys give me half answers. i will be calm and cool but first i want the answers that i feel my lost money has bought me. you understand?  i like this place and respect the cause, but i want some answers.

I'm really curious to hear what he said to you also

i like my admin like like my meth, transparent.

lol true that. After reading through all of the madness I feel like Clu got a lot of undeserved hate from a lot of people but seems to be the only one keeping in contact with everyones posts and being honest.

Will be interesting to hear what he says about that post

i agree, i like clu, when his name was getting tossed around, it was worse than anything else. but lets fucking get some answers  Clu buddy, pal. answer my question.

I'm tired but going to stay up for this lol. Would be cool if you could let us know Doc

just keep quoting it and they will be forced to answer lol

LOL save us from having to please Clu lol

i aint got shit to do.

I wonder what he said to him lol

i think he just said clus real first name or something and that made him realize hin, is legit...

I think you're right man...that's pretty crazy if he did though right?

yeah man...Clu better be changing that avatar  for taking this long.

haha I think we're right you know...or it was something crazy..wonder why he hasn't responed yet lol

[doctorwhat]

Clu, i also have a question, i feel transparency is necesarry right now but i understand  you cant give EXACT details, but i want to know hat Hin, told you to prove to you his guys are legit, now like i said i dont expect for you to copy paste, but if he doxxed you you can atleast say that. you know, i feel this will help with the "trust" issue, i am tired of letting you guys give me half answers. i will be calm and cool but first i want the answers that i feel my lost money has bought me. you understand?  i like this place and respect the cause, but i want some answers.

I'm really curious to hear what he said to you also

i like my admin like like my meth, transparent.

lol true that. After reading through all of the madness I feel like Clu got a lot of undeserved hate from a lot of people but seems to be the only one keeping in contact with everyones posts and being honest.

Will be interesting to hear what he says about that post

i agree, i like clu, when his name was getting tossed around, it was worse than anything else. but lets fucking get some answers  Clu buddy, pal. answer my question.

I'm tired but going to stay up for this lol. Would be cool if you could let us know Doc

just keep quoting it and they will be forced to answer lol

LOL save us from having to please Clu lol

i aint got shit to do.

I wonder what he said to him lol

i think he just said clus real first name or something and that made him realize hin, is legit...

I think you're right man...that's pretty crazy if he did though right?

yeah man...Clu better be changing that avatar  for taking this long.

haha I think we're right you know...or it was something crazy..wonder why he hasn't responed yet lol

tardis  is spinning out of control!

[aqualung]

I'm reading Defcon's post for the third time and I'm in tears. How painful this all must be for him guys. Imagine his life, lonely, scared, with no money left, trying to save our community. Please open the market and I'll buy whatever I can afford to help get you some commission. Stay healthy great one we will come to your aid in this time of need.

xxooxxoo

You are either ridiculously naive or you are taking the wrong drugs.

[dottys boy]

Clu, i also have a question, i feel transparency is necesarry right now but i understand  you cant give EXACT details, but i want to know hat Hin, told you to prove to you his guys are legit, now like i said i dont expect for you to copy paste, but if he doxxed you you can atleast say that. you know, i feel this will help with the "trust" issue, i am tired of letting you guys give me half answers. i will be calm and cool but first i want the answers that i feel my lost money has bought me. you understand?  i like this place and respect the cause, but i want some answers.

I'm really curious to hear what he said to you also

i like my admin like like my meth, transparent.

lol true that. After reading through all of the madness I feel like Clu got a lot of undeserved hate from a lot of people but seems to be the only one keeping in contact with everyones posts and being honest.

Will be interesting to hear what he says about that post

i agree, i like clu, when his name was getting tossed around, it was worse than anything else. but lets fucking get some answers  Clu buddy, pal. answer my question.

I'm tired but going to stay up for this lol. Would be cool if you could let us know Doc

just keep quoting it and they will be forced to answer lol

LOL save us from having to please Clu lol

i aint got shit to do.

I wonder what he said to him lol

i think he just said clus real first name or something and that made him realize hin, is legit...

I think you're right man...that's pretty crazy if he did though right?

yeah man...Clu better be changing that avatar  for taking this long.

haha I think we're right you know...or it was something crazy..wonder why he hasn't responed yet lol

quoting just to see just how long this quoted thread can get

[eightoeight]

When will the site be up so we can follow-up on orders and contact our vendors? Will SR do anything to refund any portion of our coins lost?

These are two questions STILL not addressed!!!!!!!

exactly. Defcon, you posted a few posts after i did, saying you are catching up on communication. These two questions answered would be appreciated lots.

[aqualung]

I'm reading Defcon's post for the third time and I'm in tears. How painful this all must be for him guys. Imagine his life, lonely, scared, with no money left, trying to save our community. Please open the market and I'll buy whatever I can afford to help get you some commission. Stay healthy great one we will come to your aid in this time of need.

xxooxxoo

Bitch please tell me your smoking CRACK!

DUDE!!! That was very offensive. To ALL crackheads, everywhere. They are addicted, not total morons.

[doctorwhat]

Clu, i also have a question, i feel transparency is necesarry right now but i understand  you cant give EXACT details, but i want to know hat Hin, told you to prove to you his guys are legit, now like i said i dont expect for you to copy paste, but if he doxxed you you can atleast say that. you know, i feel this will help with the "trust" issue, i am tired of letting you guys give me half answers. i will be calm and cool but first i want the answers that i feel my lost money has bought me. you understand?  i like this place and respect the cause, but i want some answers.

I'm really curious to hear what he said to you also

i like my admin like like my meth, transparent.

lol true that. After reading through all of the madness I feel like Clu got a lot of undeserved hate from a lot of people but seems to be the only one keeping in contact with everyones posts and being honest.

Will be interesting to hear what he says about that post

i agree, i like clu, when his name was getting tossed around, it was worse than anything else. but lets fucking get some answers  Clu buddy, pal. answer my question.

I'm tired but going to stay up for this lol. Would be cool if you could let us know Doc

just keep quoting it and they will be forced to answer lol

LOL save us from having to please Clu lol

i aint got shit to do.

I wonder what he said to him lol

i think he just said clus real first name or something and that made him realize hin, is legit...

I think you're right man...that's pretty crazy if he did though right?

yeah man...Clu better be changing that avatar  for taking this long.

haha I think we're right you know...or it was something crazy..wonder why he hasn't responed yet lol

quoting just to see just how long this quoted thread can get

good take my place i need to eat some food.

[rhinose]

tip of the iceberg wonder how defcon came up with their name?

[maximumoutput]

Clu, i also have a question, i feel transparency is necesarry right now but i understand  you cant give EXACT details, but i want to know hat Hin, told you to prove to you his guys are legit, now like i said i dont expect for you to copy paste, but if he doxxed you you can atleast say that. you know, i feel this will help with the "trust" issue, i am tired of letting you guys give me half answers. i will be calm and cool but first i want the answers that i feel my lost money has bought me. you understand?  i like this place and respect the cause, but i want some answers.

I'm really curious to hear what he said to you also

i like my admin like like my meth, transparent.

lol true that. After reading through all of the madness I feel like Clu got a lot of undeserved hate from a lot of people but seems to be the only one keeping in contact with everyones posts and being honest.

Will be interesting to hear what he says about that post

i agree, i like clu, when his name was getting tossed around, it was worse than anything else. but lets fucking get some answers  Clu buddy, pal. answer my question.

I'm tired but going to stay up for this lol. Would be cool if you could let us know Doc

just keep quoting it and they will be forced to answer lol

LOL save us from having to please Clu lol

i aint got shit to do.

I wonder what he said to him lol

i think he just said clus real first name or something and that made him realize hin, is legit...

I think you're right man...that's pretty crazy if he did though right?

yeah man...Clu better be changing that avatar  for taking this long.

haha I think we're right you know...or it was something crazy..wonder why he hasn't responed yet lol

quoting just to see just how long this quoted thread can get

good take my place i need to eat some food.

It will get as long as it takes until Clu answers or we fall asleep lol

[dottys boy]

Clu, i also have a question, i feel transparency is necesarry right now but i understand  you cant give EXACT details, but i want to know hat Hin, told you to prove to you his guys are legit, now like i said i dont expect for you to copy paste, but if he doxxed you you can atleast say that. you know, i feel this will help with the "trust" issue, i am tired of letting you guys give me half answers. i will be calm and cool but first i want the answers that i feel my lost money has bought me. you understand?  i like this place and respect the cause, but i want some answers.

I'm really curious to hear what he said to you also

i like my admin like like my meth, transparent.

lol true that. After reading through all of the madness I feel like Clu got a lot of undeserved hate from a lot of people but seems to be the only one keeping in contact with everyones posts and being honest.

Will be interesting to hear what he says about that post

i agree, i like clu, when his name was getting tossed around, it was worse than anything else. but lets fucking get some answers  Clu buddy, pal. answer my question.

I'm tired but going to stay up for this lol. Would be cool if you could let us know Doc

just keep quoting it and they will be forced to answer lol

LOL save us from having to please Clu lol

i aint got shit to do.

I wonder what he said to him lol

i think he just said clus real first name or something and that made him realize hin, is legit...

I think you're right man...that's pretty crazy if he did though right?

yeah man...Clu better be changing that avatar  for taking this long.

haha I think we're right you know...or it was something crazy..wonder why he hasn't responed yet lol

quoting just to see just how long this quoted thread can get

good take my place i need to eat some food.

i think this is already the largest group of nested posts i've ever seen on these boards. but lets see how big we can make it. its not like we got any drugs to do, so we gotta do something to pass the time lol.

[shadinga]

When will the site be up so we can follow-up on orders and contact our vendors? Will SR do anything to refund any portion of our coins lost?

These are two questions STILL not addressed!!!!!!!

exactly. Defcon, you posted a few posts after i did, saying you are catching up on communication. These two questions answered would be appreciated lots.

I believe these questions were addressed in the stickied Current Situation FAQ.

[maximumoutput]

Clu, i also have a question, i feel transparency is necesarry right now but i understand  you cant give EXACT details, but i want to know hat Hin, told you to prove to you his guys are legit, now like i said i dont expect for you to copy paste, but if he doxxed you you can atleast say that. you know, i feel this will help with the "trust" issue, i am tired of letting you guys give me half answers. i will be calm and cool but first i want the answers that i feel my lost money has bought me. you understand?  i like this place and respect the cause, but i want some answers.

I'm really curious to hear what he said to you also

i like my admin like like my meth, transparent.

lol true that. After reading through all of the madness I feel like Clu got a lot of undeserved hate from a lot of people but seems to be the only one keeping in contact with everyones posts and being honest.

Will be interesting to hear what he says about that post

i agree, i like clu, when his name was getting tossed around, it was worse than anything else. but lets fucking get some answers  Clu buddy, pal. answer my question.

I'm tired but going to stay up for this lol. Would be cool if you could let us know Doc

just keep quoting it and they will be forced to answer lol

LOL save us from having to please Clu lol

i aint got shit to do.

I wonder what he said to him lol

i think he just said clus real first name or something and that made him realize hin, is legit...

I think you're right man...that's pretty crazy if he did though right?

yeah man...Clu better be changing that avatar  for taking this long.

haha I think we're right you know...or it was something crazy..wonder why he hasn't responed yet lol

quoting just to see just how long this quoted thread can get

good take my place i need to eat some food.

i think this is already the largest group of nested posts i've ever seen on these boards. but lets see how big we can make it. its not like we got any drugs to do, so we gotta do something to pass the time lol.

Lol it's definitely the largest group of nested posts i've ever seen...this deserves an answer Doc hahaha

[dottys boy]

Clu, i also have a question, i feel transparency is necesarry right now but i understand  you cant give EXACT details, but i want to know hat Hin, told you to prove to you his guys are legit, now like i said i dont expect for you to copy paste, but if he doxxed you you can atleast say that. you know, i feel this will help with the "trust" issue, i am tired of letting you guys give me half answers. i will be calm and cool but first i want the answers that i feel my lost money has bought me. you understand?  i like this place and respect the cause, but i want some answers.

I'm really curious to hear what he said to you also

i like my admin like like my meth, transparent.

lol true that. After reading through all of the madness I feel like Clu got a lot of undeserved hate from a lot of people but seems to be the only one keeping in contact with everyones posts and being honest.

Will be interesting to hear what he says about that post

i agree, i like clu, when his name was getting tossed around, it was worse than anything else. but lets fucking get some answers  Clu buddy, pal. answer my question.

I'm tired but going to stay up for this lol. Would be cool if you could let us know Doc

just keep quoting it and they will be forced to answer lol

LOL save us from having to please Clu lol

i aint got shit to do.

I wonder what he said to him lol

i think he just said clus real first name or something and that made him realize hin, is legit...

I think you're right man...that's pretty crazy if he did though right?

yeah man...Clu better be changing that avatar  for taking this long.

haha I think we're right you know...or it was something crazy..wonder why he hasn't responed yet lol

quoting just to see just how long this quoted thread can get

good take my place i need to eat some food.

i think this is already the largest group of nested posts i've ever seen on these boards. but lets see how big we can make it. its not like we got any drugs to do, so we gotta do something to pass the time lol.

i wanna see if we can get doctorwhat's first post in this to only wide enough to have one word on each line.

[kawiMawi]

SO SILK ROAD IS ONLY WORTH ~ $3 MILLION? I FIND THIS ODD BECAUSE OTHER MARKETS SUCH AS SHEEP WERE WORTH $40,000,000+

WAS ORACLE INVOLVED IN THIS?? WAS ANY MODERATOR INVOLVED IN THIS?

WHAT ABOUT NARCO93, MRKERMIT, ETC..??

[aqualung]

i'd like to add that these are not trolls. i was here through everything. i was here when they picked up ross. i was here when DPR2 launched the new site and defended him giving interviews and starting a twitter account. i was here for all the ddos attacks. i was here when our brothers were arrested. i was here when DPR2 fled, and oracle was spreading FUD on purpose. i was here through more DDOSing.

but this, this is too much. anyone who stays is a fool. anyone who "believes in our captain" is a fool. anyone who deposits one more bitcoin in SR2 is a fool. it's gutwrenching to see what DPR and defcon have done to silk road. look past your blind support for a man who has fucked you over more times than I can count and you'll see I'm right. if not, you deserve what's coming to you.

Yuuuuuuuup!

[Coke Mate]

Defcon was a 'man of his word' today.

He sent a partial refund for our escrow losses. (Far more than expected)

He could have ignored the call for help yesterday and deleted the message.

But he didnt.

And it has made a substantial positive difference to us.

I am deeply thankful for this and I am hopeful of a reunification.

I want to believe. And today I actually did again.

Thank you.

=)

[Raztafarii]

When will the site be up so we can follow-up on orders and contact our vendors? Will SR do anything to refund any portion of our coins lost?

These are two questions STILL not addressed!!!!!!!

This.

Im new here, im just getting to knoe this Defcon person. If you really mean what you say, and expect us to support you and help rebuild, i expect to see you put your words into action. What happens to my losses from my first ever purchase? What kind of greeting is this? Ive barely been here a month and this happens. I like the community here and I think its a real shame what happened happened. But I think that its only fair for the community if you stick to your words.

[maximumoutput]

Clu, i also have a question, i feel transparency is necesarry right now but i understand  you cant give EXACT details, but i want to know hat Hin, told you to prove to you his guys are legit, now like i said i dont expect for you to copy paste, but if he doxxed you you can atleast say that. you know, i feel this will help with the "trust" issue, i am tired of letting you guys give me half answers. i will be calm and cool but first i want the answers that i feel my lost money has bought me. you understand?  i like this place and respect the cause, but i want some answers.

I'm really curious to hear what he said to you also

i like my admin like like my meth, transparent.

lol true that. After reading through all of the madness I feel like Clu got a lot of undeserved hate from a lot of people but seems to be the only one keeping in contact with everyones posts and being honest.

Will be interesting to hear what he says about that post

i agree, i like clu, when his name was getting tossed around, it was worse than anything else. but lets fucking get some answers  Clu buddy, pal. answer my question.

I'm tired but going to stay up for this lol. Would be cool if you could let us know Doc

just keep quoting it and they will be forced to answer lol

LOL save us from having to please Clu lol

i aint got shit to do.

I wonder what he said to him lol

i think he just said clus real first name or something and that made him realize hin, is legit...

I think you're right man...that's pretty crazy if he did though right?

yeah man...Clu better be changing that avatar  for taking this long.

haha I think we're right you know...or it was something crazy..wonder why he hasn't responed yet lol

quoting just to see just how long this quoted thread can get

good take my place i need to eat some food.

i think this is already the largest group of nested posts i've ever seen on these boards. but lets see how big we can make it. its not like we got any drugs to do, so we gotta do something to pass the time lol.

i wanna see if we can get doctorwhat's first post in this to only wide enough to have one word on each line.

My post disappeared...we must be glitching out the system...to many quotes...lol

[DoctorClu]

Clu, i also have a question, i feel transparency is necesarry right now but i understand  you cant give EXACT details, but i want to know hat Hin, told you to prove to you his guys are legit, now like i said i dont expect for you to copy paste, but if he doxxed you you can atleast say that. you know, i feel this will help with the "trust" issue, i am tired of letting you guys give me half answers. i will be calm and cool but first i want the answers that i feel my lost money has bought me. you understand?  i like this place and respect the cause, but i want some answers.

I'm really curious to hear what he said to you also

i like my admin like like my meth, transparent.

lol true that. After reading through all of the madness I feel like Clu got a lot of undeserved hate from a lot of people but seems to be the only one keeping in contact with everyones posts and being honest.

Will be interesting to hear what he says about that post

i agree, i like clu, when his name was getting tossed around, it was worse than anything else. but lets fucking get some answers  Clu buddy, pal. answer my question.

I do not like posting this publicly. I have been watching you all ask this question and I needed to take some time to respond appropriately.

Hiniguel presented me with a few various pieces of vague data about myself that were accurate enough to illicit a panic attack. I do not feel I am in danger. I truly wish that I had not been a target of his in the first place, but it is done now. Hiniguel has only good intentions and was simply trying to find out who may have been at fault. He followed a path that lead to me, but it was a false one. I do not know what lead him on that path, but again...its done now.

I say this because I don't believe I was fully doxed. As always, I am as safe as anyone else here.

[aqualung]

I think Defcon has answered all he needs to at this time for the community. Let's focus on getting some money back into this site and helping out. I'm sure Deffy is working on code for our security and hopefully going to get some needed rest afterwards.

The poor man is living in a mission impossible world and just keeping OPSEC up has to be draining. It takes him one hour of prep just to log in! Doing all of this for us with no money left I might add. I hope he has a roof over his head still.

I wish I could cook you a nice dinner and rub your back Defcon, I know you need it.

Mama, no offense, but you are a blithering fucking idiot. Please stop talking.

[maximumoutput]

Clu, i also have a question, i feel transparency is necesarry right now but i understand  you cant give EXACT details, but i want to know hat Hin, told you to prove to you his guys are legit, now like i said i dont expect for you to copy paste, but if he doxxed you you can atleast say that. you know, i feel this will help with the "trust" issue, i am tired of letting you guys give me half answers. i will be calm and cool but first i want the answers that i feel my lost money has bought me. you understand?  i like this place and respect the cause, but i want some answers.

I'm really curious to hear what he said to you also

i like my admin like like my meth, transparent.

lol true that. After reading through all of the madness I feel like Clu got a lot of undeserved hate from a lot of people but seems to be the only one keeping in contact with everyones posts and being honest.

Will be interesting to hear what he says about that post

i agree, i like clu, when his name was getting tossed around, it was worse than anything else. but lets fucking get some answers  Clu buddy, pal. answer my question.

I do not like posting this publicly. I have been watching you all ask this question and I needed to take some time to respond appropriately.

Hiniguel presented me with a few various pieces of vague data about myself that were accurate enough to illicit a panic attack. I do not feel I am in danger. I truly wish that I had not been a target of his in the first place, but it is done now. Hiniguel has only good intentions and was simply trying to find out who may have been at fault. He followed a path that lead to me, but it was a false one. I do not know what lead him on that path, but again...its done now.

I say this because I don't believe I was fully doxed. As always, I am as safe as anyone else here.

That's crazy man...and I understand why you probably didn't want to say but I appreciate you telling us.

Is that the most quotes you seen or what hahaha

Take care buddy,

Peace

[dottys boy]

i'd like to add that these are not trolls. i was here through everything. i was here when they picked up ross. i was here when DPR2 launched the new site and defended him giving interviews and starting a twitter account. i was here for all the ddos attacks. i was here when our brothers were arrested. i was here when DPR2 fled, and oracle was spreading FUD on purpose. i was here through more DDOSing.

but this, this is too much. anyone who stays is a fool. anyone who "believes in our captain" is a fool. anyone who deposits one more bitcoin in SR2 is a fool. it's gutwrenching to see what DPR and defcon have done to silk road. look past your blind support for a man who has fucked you over more times than I can count and you'll see I'm right. if not, you deserve what's coming to you.

Yuuuuuuuup!

deposit btc again, i dare you, i double dare you motherfucker

[maximumoutput]

Clu, i also have a question, i feel transparency is necesarry right now but i understand  you cant give EXACT details, but i want to know hat Hin, told you to prove to you his guys are legit, now like i said i dont expect for you to copy paste, but if he doxxed you you can atleast say that. you know, i feel this will help with the "trust" issue, i am tired of letting you guys give me half answers. i will be calm and cool but first i want the answers that i feel my lost money has bought me. you understand?  i like this place and respect the cause, but i want some answers.

I'm really curious to hear what he said to you also

i like my admin like like my meth, transparent.

lol true that. After reading through all of the madness I feel like Clu got a lot of undeserved hate from a lot of people but seems to be the only one keeping in contact with everyones posts and being honest.

Will be interesting to hear what he says about that post

i agree, i like clu, when his name was getting tossed around, it was worse than anything else. but lets fucking get some answers  Clu buddy, pal. answer my question.

I'm tired but going to stay up for this lol. Would be cool if you could let us know Doc

just keep quoting it and they will be forced to answer lol

LOL save us from having to please Clu lol

i aint got shit to do.

I wonder what he said to him lol

i think he just said clus real first name or something and that made him realize hin, is legit...

I think you're right man...that's pretty crazy if he did though right?

yeah man...Clu better be changing that avatar  for taking this long.

haha I think we're right you know...or it was something crazy..wonder why he hasn't responed yet lol

quoting just to see just how long this quoted thread can get

good take my place i need to eat some food.

i think this is already the largest group of nested posts i've ever seen on these boards. but lets see how big we can make it. its not like we got any drugs to do, so we gotta do something to pass the time lol.

i wanna see if we can get doctorwhat's first post in this to only wide enough to have one word on each line.

My post disappeared...we must be glitching out the system...to many quotes...lol

the first post is still getting thinner and thinner tho

again

Again again!!! LOL just kidding... I need sleep.

Peace every one I'm out

[Perdy]

Clu, i also have a question, i feel transparency is necesarry right now but i understand  you cant give EXACT details, but i want to know hat Hin, told you to prove to you his guys are legit, now like i said i dont expect for you to copy paste, but if he doxxed you you can atleast say that. you know, i feel this will help with the "trust" issue, i am tired of letting you guys give me half answers. i will be calm and cool but first i want the answers that i feel my lost money has bought me. you understand?  i like this place and respect the cause, but i want some answers.

I'm really curious to hear what he said to you also

i like my admin like like my meth, transparent.

lol true that. After reading through all of the madness I feel like Clu got a lot of undeserved hate from a lot of people but seems to be the only one keeping in contact with everyones posts and being honest.

Will be interesting to hear what he says about that post

i agree, i like clu, when his name was getting tossed around, it was worse than anything else. but lets fucking get some answers  Clu buddy, pal. answer my question.

I'm tired but going to stay up for this lol. Would be cool if you could let us know Doc

just keep quoting it and they will be forced to answer lol

LOL save us from having to please Clu lol

i aint got shit to do.

I wonder what he said to him lol

i think he just said clus real first name or something and that made him realize hin, is legit...

I think you're right man...that's pretty crazy if he did though right?

yeah man...Clu better be changing that avatar  for taking this long.

haha I think we're right you know...or it was something crazy..wonder why he hasn't responed yet lol

quoting just to see just how long this quoted thread can get

good take my place i need to eat some food.

i think this is already the largest group of nested posts i've ever seen on these boards. but lets see how big we can make it. its not like we got any drugs to do, so we gotta do something to pass the time lol.

i wanna see if we can get doctorwhat's first post in this to only wide enough to have one word on each line.

My post disappeared...we must be glitching out the system...to many quotes...lol

the first post is still getting thinner and thinner tho

again

Again again!!! LOL just kidding... I need sleep.

Peace every one I'm out

Again I guess.

[Hakibaki]

We all make mistakes. I never had doubts, Defcon didn't become the leader because of his eyes being amazingly beautiful, he was chosen because of his skills.

Fuck all the naysayers! Admins and mods deserve to be treated better, we should be more supportive when they need it, not bitch and make false accusations! You never think of what they are doing for this community, I believe they try as hard as they can. I wonder how would every single one of those bitching scums behave if they were in the admins/mods place.

I say it again, MANY THANKS TO EVERYONE INVOLVED IN RUNNING THIS MARVELOUS PLACE <3

but at the end of the day we are still customers and we are paying them for the service. its not like they are doing this out of the kindness of their hearts and taking great risk to serve us for free. they have to understand business and customer dynamics. customers will move on if you're not providing a service they are happy with. they will go to the other guy who is offering what they want. all the bad forum posts were us telling defcon that we were not happy or satisfied with what he was giving us for our money and that we would be moving on soon if he didn't rectify it. and we all felt like he wasn't really listening or taking us seriously.

Business is business, I have to agree on that, but SR always meant something more to me. I noticed that Defcon is not so well-spoken like DPR was, but I think that what he lacks in writing he makes up in other areas. Customer care is apparently not one of them, but whatever, nobody is perfect. Eventually he will make it up to us, we just have to be patient. The basic thing that held the community together was the idea and trust. I hope these have not disappeared already.
Of course people feel like they have been deluded. Did you try to look at it from Defcon's perspective? Do you know what he's actually doing all the time? I don't, but if they weren't doing what they say they are, I think SR2 would be down long time ago.
If you want to move to another market, just do it. But don't try to take as many people with you as you can, majority of new markets are scams, the rest just doesn't seem to be secure enough.

[therealmightyboosh77]

strength given and faith increased.  heads down through the breach my lads!

[whom]

FYI, I figured out the problem with the signatures on my side.  Got Defcon's signature to decode fine on this one.   Defcon has not been replaced with an alien robot.  Or if he has, the alien robot has his privkey.

Code: [Select]

$ gpg --verify scrubbed.txt                                                                                                                                                                      
gpg: Signature made Sat Feb 15 23:07:41 2014 UTC                                                                                                                                                      
gpg:                using RSA key 0x2470AB48A64A40B4                                                                                                                                                  
gpg: Good signature from "Defcon <defcon@defcon.onion>" [unknown]                                                                                                                                     
gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!                                                                                                                                     
gpg:          There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.                                                                                                                         
Primary key fingerprint: 7B83 8E51 6C98 AADB B520  B139 B476 3F3D A416 F556                                                                                                                           
     Subkey fingerprint: 888C F1FE E4AD 3134 2A76  66AC 2470 AB48 A64A 40B4    

[aqualung]

i'd like to add that these are not trolls. i was here through everything. i was here when they picked up ross. i was here when DPR2 launched the new site and defended him giving interviews and starting a twitter account. i was here for all the ddos attacks. i was here when our brothers were arrested. i was here when DPR2 fled, and oracle was spreading FUD on purpose. i was here through more DDOSing.

but this, this is too much. anyone who stays is a fool. anyone who "believes in our captain" is a fool. anyone who deposits one more bitcoin in SR2 is a fool. it's gutwrenching to see what DPR and defcon have done to silk road. look past your blind support for a man who has fucked you over more times than I can count and you'll see I'm right. if not, you deserve what's coming to you.

Yuuuuuuuup!

deposit btc again, i dare you, i double dare you motherfucker

Not me. Nope. Heeeeeeeeeell no. Not one red cent. No reeason to. All my fav vendors are at Agora now anyway. I deal with vendors I trust and I FE. Fuck escrow.

[gaust]

Defcon was a 'man of his word' today.

He sent a partial refund for our escrow losses. (Far more than expected)

He could have ignored the call for help yesterday and deleted the message.

But he didnt.

And it has made a substantial positive difference to us.

I am deeply thankful for this and I am hopeful of a reunification.

I want to believe. And today I actually did again.

Thank you.

=)

Quoting for confidence.

[TheWeeMan]

So we all got a shite hand at the poker table and lost some cash. Big fuckin deal. This isnt what silkroad is about. Take a step back and stop being consumed by the greed and power. Stand up. Raise your middle finger to all authorithy and say FUCK YOU I WILL NOT BE CONTROLLED. The silkroad is not a product or brand. It is a movement and way of life. THERE IS US AND THERE IS THEM.

Trust a reliable vendor FE. You been here long enough you'll know who.
Yeah u may get fucked eventualy. Shit happens!!!!

[Wombat]

It's truly incredible to me how many of you "freedom fighters" blindly trust that lawless renegades on the internet have good intentions.  Since SR 2.0 has started I haven't made a single transaction that I didn't FE for.  What was the reasoning behind this?  Well firstly, all the vendors I give a shit about require FE.  I did my homework and found good vendors.  Secondly,  I don't trust the site for shit.  It's glitchy as fuck and doesn't work.  Wake up people.   It all comes down to the same thing I have lived by for a long time now.

1.  Never let more money out of your hands than you can afford to lose.  EVER.
2.  Do your homework.  If it looks to good to be true it very well may be.
 
If Silk Road falls, it falls.  I have been dealing with quality vendors on the darknet long before Silk Road even existed.  I watched the rise and fall of the Farmers Market.  I was around for the start of SR.  I was around for the fall of the SR.  I was around for this go round as well.  As selfish as it may sound,  I am here to make money.  I truly do believe in my heart of hearts that the government shouldn't interfere with people altering their own consciousnesses, but when all is said and done, I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for the money. 

Fuck an escrow system.  Let's go back to the good old days when we would western union money to a foreign country and not have a clue whether or not a vendor would actually send us the shit.  It was all about a good reputation and good business practices.  Get a vendor list people and FE.  Fuck me once, shame on you.  Fuck me twice, shame on me.

-Goodfornothing
-Green Machine
-B4B
-ItalianMafiaBrussels
-Real Trade
-VanillaRoyale
-Platinum Standard
-Humbolt's Finest
-Checkpoint


Information is power.  Love many trust few.  I will be where the good deals are trying to provide a better life for myself and my family, whether it's this venue or the next. 

[doctorwhat]

Clu, i also have a question, i feel transparency is necesarry right now but i understand  you cant give EXACT details, but i want to know hat Hin, told you to prove to you his guys are legit, now like i said i dont expect for you to copy paste, but if he doxxed you you can atleast say that. you know, i feel this will help with the "trust" issue, i am tired of letting you guys give me half answers. i will be calm and cool but first i want the answers that i feel my lost money has bought me. you understand?  i like this place and respect the cause, but i want some answers.

I'm really curious to hear what he said to you also

i like my admin like like my meth, transparent.

lol true that. After reading through all of the madness I feel like Clu got a lot of undeserved hate from a lot of people but seems to be the only one keeping in contact with everyones posts and being honest.

Will be interesting to hear what he says about that post

i agree, i like clu, when his name was getting tossed around, it was worse than anything else. but lets fucking get some answers  Clu buddy, pal. answer my question.

I do not like posting this publicly. I have been watching you all ask this question and I needed to take some time to respond appropriately.

Hiniguel presented me with a few various pieces of vague data about myself that were accurate enough to illicit a panic attack. I do not feel I am in danger. I truly wish that I had not been a target of his in the first place, but it is done now. Hiniguel has only good intentions and was simply trying to find out who may have been at fault. He followed a path that lead to me, but it was a false one. I do not know what lead him on that path, but again...its done now.

I say this because I don't believe I was fully doxed. As always, I am as safe as anyone else here.


thank you for answering. and i just want to say i am glad you are still on our side. hearing that shit even if it was just implicated hurt worse than losing my money.

[dottys boy]

So we all got a shite hand at the poker table and lost some cash. Big fuckin deal. This isnt what silkroad is about. Take a step back and stop being consumed by the greed and power. Stand up. Raise your middle finger to all authorithy and say FUCK YOU I WILL NOT BE CONTROLLED. The silkroad is not a product or brand. It is a movement and way of life. THERE IS US AND THERE IS THEM.

Trust a reliable vendor FE. You been here long enough you'll know who.
Yeah u may get fucked eventualy. Shit happens!!!!

ideology is all good and well, but at the end of the day you got to eat and make your way. else you ain't got time for ideology. see how interested a starving ethiopian is in ideology, compared to a fat american.

[TheWeeMan]

.  I truly do believe in my heart of hearts that the government shouldn't interfere with people altering their own consciousnesses, but when all is said and done, I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for the money. 

Fuck an escrow system.  Let's go back to the good old days when we would western union money to a foreign country and not have a clue whether or not a vendor would actually send us the shit.  It was all about a good reputation and good business practices.  Get a vendor list people and FE.  Fuck me once, shame on you.  Fuck me twice, shame on me

Information is power.  Love many trust few.  I will be where the good deals are trying to provide a better life for myself and my family, whether it's this venue or the next.
[/quote]


I completley agree with this statement and this is how I operate. This way u get fucked u best look in the mirror and point the finger at urself..only take to the poker table what ur willing to loose

[moondog65]

I too want to belive and be able to trust SR again. It will take time to earn the comunity's trust back again. At this point I can't lie and say my "trust" in SR has not been shaken a lot. To Defcon personally I would rather see staff take their time and get it right the first time and don't let people here "rush" you to bring changes and fixes online before they are ready to be. Thwere seems to be way too much negativity here and even "threats" againts the staff which is just plain wrong.

[Blagah]

Great business decision to wait 3 days to announce "everyone will get paid back". It's all talk whether he said it right away or now but this guy has already chased away 3/4's of the site's users by his lighting fast reaction to the situation. Might take a long while to see your mulla if it happens.

[xserver2003]

Please don't let the community's faith down...
As seen now they began to moved to other marketplace...


Regards XS

[DrawkwarD]

You have my keyboard.

[IshitBacon]

Rrrrr matties, looks like there’s more pirates in the sea than we thought.


I wish there was this place on the inter net where you could buy drugs.

Oh yea that’s what SR was trying to do but some dick in the ass hacked into a business that can’t file a report to the cops.

[AfricanCanadianBrotha]

Rrrrr matties, looks like there’s more pirates in the sea than we thought.


I wish there was this place on the inter net where you could buy drugs.

Oh yea that’s what SR was trying to do but some dick in the ass hacked into a business that can’t file a report to the cops.

yes really tottally come the fuck on people there is always gonna be ass hole hackers hiting are markets we need to stop blaming the markets and give me and i suppose dude has gotten it negative dicourage shit

[BritishFakeIDs]

What do you have to say to the fact that NOT A SINGLE EXCHANGE lost any btc due to transaction malleability?

And agora says you're all full of shit too?

READACTED-Spam

[IshitBacon]

Isn’t agora those guys from the matrix. Its true that they know allllllllllllllllllllllll

Take the blue pillll

Wait up!!! Noooooooo

I meant the red oneeee fck. !!

Now I guess some asshole figured out how to hack a website. I’ve never heard of a hacker before. Is this the kind of thing that they normally do?

[malycalypsejr]

[Bart3r]

Ha ha and I was wondering who would be dumb enough to go back and buy on SR again!! Either there are loads of idiots with way too much money or its the same person using different accoubts to try leed more shhep in.
At first I though thats too much Defcon has some nerve but now I realise its just greed that can't be filled. Site was full of scammers not surprising it was ran by one as well.

[AfricanCanadianBrotha]

Ha ha and I was wondering who would be dumb enough to go back and buy on SR again!! Either there are loads of idiots with way too much money or its the same person using different accoubts to try leed more shhep in.
At first I though thats too much Defcon has some nerve but now I realise its just greed that can't be filled. Site was full of scammers not surprising it was ran by one as well.

really stop this talk please we were not scammed all dark webs are threatened by hacking and im pretty sure defcon hasnt stolen shit in my eyes dude is innocent till evidence that is real shows otherwise so really show me him or his account in possesion of btc

[jabbatheslut]

I sincerely hope that Silk Road will recover from this blow and return to full operational status stronger, safer and more secure.

Personally, I have always had a soft sport for SR since this revolutionary economic experiment truly paved the way for the transformation of the darknet into the new frontier for freedom and the struggle against tyranny and oppression. 

For those of us who have suffered lifelong oppression and persecution simply because of our personal preference for certain substances prohibited by unjust and misguided laws, Silk Road has always been a beacon of hope.

By permitting us to partake in our recreational activities without the risks that come with trying to obtain such "contraband" on the streets, Silk Road has not only saved countless lives but has also saved many non-violent "criminals" from clogging the courts, freeing the justice system to focus on violent offenders, instead of peaceful individuals whose activities harm nobody other than themselves.

Anyhow, just witnessing the shitstorm of outspoken lunatic rants, contemptuous assumptions and hyperbolic speculation that followed the shutdown this week really made my stomach turn.

The ease with which some vocal commentators attribute motives of malice and greed to others without any knowledge of actual circumstances is a sad reflection on the mercenary attitudes of many who avail themselves of services like Silk Road, without any consideration for the colossal risks inherent in operating such an enterprise. 

The certainty with which many of these loudmouths voiced their ludicrous theories about "what really happened" and about the identity and motives of the "real" perpetrators is both amazing and disturbing.
In an arena where everyone with infallible opinions considers themselves an expert, has no hesitation in pronouncing their own idiotic conclusions as gospel while attacking others, and where lunacy, obstinacy and inflexibility dominate the forums - rational discussion and argument are totally impossible.

The tendency of certain vocal critics to flood the forums with their irrelevant opinions has always been counterproductive and a major irritation as it serves only to undermine the effectiveness of these forums as a means of communicating issues of genuine concern to staff and admins.

Thank you Defcon and other admins for keeping the community informed during this difficult time.

In my humble opinion, these simple measures show sincerity, openness and willingness to work together, and I think it advisable for all of us to refrain from passing judgement or leaping to conclusions at this stage.

Silk Road will rebound from this setback to resume its place as the foremost guarantor of liberty on the darknet.

[oracle]

I tend to agree with a lot of Def's explanation. The Gox software similarity was a ticking time bomb waiting to go off, and it offered the thief a perfect "cloak" if you will to mutate tx ID's. I think his candor should be applauded.

Ive worked in certain contract capacties in the past for him, and I can assure you all the guy's heart is in the right place.. but he comes from a technical background, and I've pointed out one of his greatest weaknesses is not being the best @ PR and effective communication.

It is what it is. Let's see how things progress. The thief is living on borrowed time. More on that later.

[Dr Robotnik]

Didn't you claim that you knew for certain that stexo/DPR2 was the theif? Now you are agreeing with Defcon that it was a hack and no staff member was involved?

[BeHappy]

I need to pay my bills. Hurry up wit open the market please:(

[DoctorClu]

I tend to agree with a lot of Def's explanation. The Gox software similarity was a ticking time bomb waiting to go off, and it offered the thief a perfect "cloak" if you will to mutate tx ID's. I think his candor should be applauded.

Ive worked in certain contract capacties in the past for him, and I can assure you all the guy's heart is in the right place.. but he comes from a technical background, and I've pointed out one of his greatest weaknesses is not being the best @ PR and effective communication.

It is what it is. Let's see how things progress. The thief is living on borrowed time. More on that later.

Several of us proofread this, revised and profread it again. Rinse and repeat. We don't have staff dedicated to PR, but I thought we did well...

[vince]

Nice try Defcon, but I have 500 tin foil hats on when I read this and now I can TELL you have SCAMMED US ALL!

[oracle]

Didn't you claim that you knew for certain that stexo/DPR2 was the theif? Now you are agreeing with Defcon that it was a hack and no staff member was involved?

I still feel how I feel. Defcon is not the people above mentioned.

[thesoloist]

I tend to agree with a lot of Def's explanation. The Gox software similarity was a ticking time bomb waiting to go off, and it offered the thief a perfect "cloak" if you will to mutate tx ID's. I think his candor should be applauded.

Ive worked in certain contract capacties in the past for him, and I can assure you all the guy's heart is in the right place.. but he comes from a technical background, and I've pointed out one of his greatest weaknesses is not being the best @ PR and effective communication.

It is what it is. Let's see how things progress. The thief is living on borrowed time. More on that later.

more on that later...
update later.....
expand later......
more details later....

why don't you just fuck off with all your fucking stories and theories....
you verbal diarrhea spilling mother-fucker

[lashesxo]

I tend to agree with a lot of Def's explanation. The Gox software similarity was a ticking time bomb waiting to go off, and it offered the thief a perfect "cloak" if you will to mutate tx ID's. I think his candor should be applauded.

Ive worked in certain contract capacties in the past for him, and I can assure you all the guy's heart is in the right place.. but he comes from a technical background, and I've pointed out one of his greatest weaknesses is not being the best @ PR and effective communication.

It is what it is. Let's see how things progress. The thief is living on borrowed time. More on that later.

more on that later...
update later.....
expand later......
more details later....

why don't you just fuck off with all your fucking stories and theories....
you verbal diarrhea spilling mother-fucker

Oops, I put my comment in with his comment!

edit:

lol

I will say, Oracle is a suspense ridden machine.

[daza]

im hoping too get my escrows replaced sir


thanks for the update when do we re open then??

regards

[brick$quad]

from a user on reddit

"Let me get this straight...

    he moved the coins in anticipation of the auto finalize going live

    then he claims he was offline and out of touch for at least a week

    the staff was afraid to hit the kill switch when they saw the balance draining away

    but then he claims they had no idea it was occurring

This whole "statement" is full of contradictions

Oh, and it's only purpose seemed to be to blame rightfully upset users, and prepare any one stupid enough to keep using SR2 to ignore the warning signs of the next scam."

[bluerizla4u]

the fact is at the moment its gone and if we are lucky were gonna get it back....

they have returned it before, and im sure they will return it again....

learn from it, dont bitch about it

[Stealth]

Several pages and barely a single comment on this particular post, so I thought I might quote it here for posterity's sake.

Defcon was a 'man of his word' today.

He sent a partial refund for our escrow losses. (Far more than expected)

He could have ignored the call for help yesterday and deleted the message.

But he didnt.

And it has made a substantial positive difference to us.

I am deeply thankful for this and I am hopeful of a reunification.

I want to believe. And today I actually did again.

Thank you.

=)

I am here to serve this community and this movement, and after finally reading every comment in this thread I have to say, the majority of you are justified in your skepticism. However, with acts like these, and the repayment of ALL users funds, I hope those of you who ever had faith will regain it.

To those of you who are here purely to troll and divide, and were never a contributing member of this community, please exit stage left.  (thesiologist comes to mind.)

To those of you who can see through the fog and realize that Defcon is an honorable man and a man of his word, I sincerely thank you. Frankly, after a hack/theft/pick-your-vernacular of this magnitude, every single market admin has either ran off with any remaining coin or simply ran off. Defcon has not and will not do this, and nor will I. This staff is united, and we will make you whole again financially no matter what it takes.

Stealth

[maximumoutput]

Several pages and barely a single comment on this particular post, so I thought I might quote it here for posterity's sake.

Defcon was a 'man of his word' today.

He sent a partial refund for our escrow losses. (Far more than expected)

He could have ignored the call for help yesterday and deleted the message.

But he didnt.

And it has made a substantial positive difference to us.

I am deeply thankful for this and I am hopeful of a reunification.

I want to believe. And today I actually did again.

Thank you.

=)

I am here to serve this community and this movement, and after finally reading every comment in this thread I have to say, the majority of you are justified in your skepticism. However, with acts like these, and the repayment of ALL users funds, I hope those of you who ever had faith will regain it.

To those of you who are here purely to troll and divide, and were never a contributing member of this community, please exit stage left.  (thesiologist comes to mind.)

To those of you who can see through the fog and realize that Defcon is an honorable man and a man of his word, I sincerely thank you. Frankly, after a hack/theft/pick-your-vernacular of this magnitude, every single market admin has either ran off with any remaining coin or simply ran off. Defcon has not and will not do this, and nor will I. This staff is united, and we will make you whole again financially no matter what it takes.

Stealth

EVERYONE PLEASE READ THIS:

Honestly, when I first heard the news, I thought this was the end for the road, after reading some of the hate...but I can honestly say now after seeing what Defcon has said and done and after talking to the staff, I couln't have been more wrong...

These guys hearts really are in the right place, I was in a lot of trouble over the news we were given, and I was going to get into a very messy situation because of it. Defcon Helped me out though because he's trying to rectify his mistakes.
The least everyone can do is give him a chance to make things right with you, I know he will.

Now after talking to them, I want to fight this battle with all of you guys more than ever.

Please everyone, all I ask is that you stick around for them to prove to anyone that doesn't beleive, that their word is good, and that this place is here to stay..

Long live the Road!!!

Peace and love everyone!!!

[sticksNshit]

Come on community.

We are smarter than this.

Read.....Read.....and read some more, this is all a set up to steal your money.

They see you guys will bring more money here again, so why not give some back to take some more.

Let say they take your coins while they are worth $760 each and sell them.

Now they buy them back at $530 each.

Hey let's just give some back and earn their trust again so we can EMBEZZLE again.

These guys are a pack thieves. More than likely they are responsible for the majority of the scams here.

So let's say these guys know the escrow is fecked.

Let's buy the competitions products, tie up their coins in escrow since there is no AF.

Resell their product that they never will get paid for anyway, since I plan to steal the escrow.

Now they make double the coin and WE lose.

WE LOSE...............

We are smarter than this people, This outfit will continue to scam and steal in different ways.

Find yourself a trusted vendor or 2 deal with them direct.

[El Jefe]

"Actions speak louder than words"
Your creditability is practically non-existent.

Good words has no meaning now, we want our money, them coins you STOLED.


It's an insult to our intelligence reading those threads discussing "future" plans, as if there are any.

[maximumoutput]

"Actions speak louder than words"
Your creditability is practically non-existent.

Good words has no meaning now, we want our money, them coins you STOLED.


It's an insult to our intelligence reading those threads discussing "future" plans, as if there are any.

Did you not just see what I posted? He's trying his best to make things right here for us, give him a chance please.

[blackhand]

5. Accept that your community will hate you regardless.

No. You don't get to act smug and self-righteous, not now. You are not a victim here. Regardless of whether you perpetrated this attack or not, you share just as much of the blame as the actual perpetrator. If you're being crucified here, it's because you earned it. Were you the head of any company or organization out in the world, you would be out on the street; and if Silk Road has a board, I trust that you will be very soon.

Allow me to quote from your own words why you don't get to act like a victim: Had we not trusted MtGox's staff procedures, we would have reviewed our approaches with much more rigor. Just because a large company's procedures are successful does not make them are safe. Had you actually trusted MtGox's procedures, you would've disable withdrawals when they did. Plain and simple. I don't buy the "I was away for opsec purposes" story. You expect me to believe that a major flaw in how many sites handle wallets just happened to come out after which the staff just happened to move the coins to the hot wallet at the right time for an attacker to get all the bitcoins at a time when you just happened to be away? And I'm also supposed to believe that nobody in controll noticed it happening? For the self declared most secure and well managed marketplace to have nobody on hand with access to the kill switch during a major attack like this(one that was foreseeable if you really based the wallets off those at MtGox), well that's just a mighty big coincidence.

[kurdman]

All a big cover up so they cant steal even more money.

These people are very smart people and have planned this through thoroughly. DONT FALL FOR THE TRAP AGAIN. its up to you... you will see once they steal everyone's money again and then people will think back "oh should of listen to the 'conspiracy theory''

find yourself a good vendor or two and deal with them directly. 

[maximumoutput]

All a big cover up so they cant steal even more money.

These people are very smart people and have planned this through thoroughly. DONT FALL FOR THE TRAP AGAIN. its up to you... you will see once they steal everyone's money again and then people will think back "oh should of listen to the 'conspiracy theory''

find yourself a good vendor or two and deal with them directly.

But they're paying everyone back?...why would they scam everyone again like you said, and then pay that back as well?...This doesn't make sense,what would they gain from doing this?

I'm pretty sure after Defcon helping me out and otheres in the community already that they're being genuine..

Peace

[SimonBerumondo]

Thanks for the statement Defcon.

They paid everyone back once, and I'm sure they'll manage again!
Stop bitching about it, this shit happens and we all signed up for this.
I'm not trusting anyone on here, except myself, that's why I can't blame anyone for any losses, except myself. Maybe you need to realize that you're all in this business because you chose it.

[meandmypills]

[dottys boy]

5. Accept that your community will hate you regardless.

No. You don't get to act smug and self-righteous, not now. You are not a victim here. Regardless of whether you perpetrated this attack or not, you share just as much of the blame as the actual perpetrator. If you're being crucified here, it's because you earned it. Were you the head of any company or organization out in the world, you would be out on the street; and if Silk Road has a board, I trust that you will be very soon.

Allow me to quote from your own words why you don't get to act like a victim: Had we not trusted MtGox's staff procedures, we would have reviewed our approaches with much more rigor. Just because a large company's procedures are successful does not make them are safe. Had you actually trusted MtGox's procedures, you would've disable withdrawals when they did. Plain and simple. I don't buy the "I was away for opsec purposes" story. You expect me to believe that a major flaw in how many sites handle wallets just happened to come out after which the staff just happened to move the coins to the hot wallet at the right time for an attacker to get all the bitcoins at a time when you just happened to be away? And I'm also supposed to believe that nobody in controll noticed it happening? For the self declared most secure and well managed marketplace to have nobody on hand with access to the kill switch during a major attack like this(one that was foreseeable if you really based the wallets off those at MtGox), well that's just a mighty big coincidence.

i gotta wonder, silk road have been telling us for months that all the absence of functionality has been down to how much time they've put into security and that silk road is the most secure site on the darknet. yet this mtgox vulnerability was never exploited on any of the other so called 'less secure' sites. so why was only silk road, the supposed most secure site, the only one that was targeted with this exploit? it must have applied just as much to the other sites, and from the hackers viewpoint, would likely have made softer targets.

in fact the more i think about that, imagining i was this hacker back in december or whenever it was. when he discovered the exploit and realized he could target it at a darknet market, he would at that point have made a decision as to which market he would target. why the fuck did he target silk road? when there are plenty of others that are well known to not be anywhere near the security level of sr. unless he had an inside man, which kinda adds credence to what hiniguel has been claiming. its possible that he expected a bigger payout from sr but the other markets would still have offered a big payday and would likely have been much easier to exploit.

[jabbatheslut]

The sheer volume of stupidity, negativity, bullshit and blame is really giving me the shits.
As well as being totally counterproductive.

If you are one of those mindless trolls whose "opinion" is just an echo of whatever hate-filled lunacy is screamed the loudest, please fuck off.
 
It is all too easy for those incapable of critical thought to join the chorus of circling vultures shrieking their conspiracy theories while fantasizing about feasting on the corpse of Silk Road.

Kudos to the honorable pillars of this community who refuse to be swayed by the lies of the ignorant, and their puppeteers - LE and mercenaries trying to lure business to their under-subscribed and unpopular rival marketplaces.

Long Live Silk Road!!

[dottys boy]

Thanks for the statement Defcon.

They paid everyone back once, and I'm sure they'll manage again!
Stop bitching about it, this shit happens and we all signed up for this.
I'm not trusting anyone on here, except myself, that's why I can't blame anyone for any losses, except myself. Maybe you need to realize that you're all in this business because you chose it.

so we should all just accept getting ripped off and carry on like it never happened? shut the fuck up, if you act like that you become a magnet for every thief around.

lets say you and me are both smack dealers working opposite corners on a street somewhere. we both get robbed by three guys pushing shotguns in our faces and taking 5 grands worth of product. you just shrug it off coz you signed up for this business so feel you should just accept it. me, i go and find those fuckers, stick a shotgun in their faces and pull the trigger. so now tell me, who's getting robbed again next week?

[dottys boy]

The sheer volume of stupidity, negativity, bullshit and blame is really giving me the shits.
As well as being totally counterproductive.

If you are one of those mindless trolls whose "opinion" is just an echo of whatever hate-filled lunacy is screamed the loudest, please fuck off.
 
It is all too easy for those incapable of critical thought to join the chorus of circling vultures shrieking their conspiracy theories while fantasizing about feasting on the corpse of Silk Road.

Kudos to the honorable pillars of this community who refuse to be swayed by the lies of the ignorant, and their puppeteers - LE and mercenaries trying to lure business to their under-subscribed and unpopular rival marketplaces.

Long Live Silk Road!!

and some of us live in the real world and know a thing or two about how shit goes down and how much trust you can place in people.

[karlbass73]

I didnt want to SPAM my way out of noobville(how fucking retarded is that?)  So I saved my breath until I had something to say....so for those of you who are interested in intellectual discourse....go to "newbie discussion" and read my post  "Theft or Incompetence"  and does it matter?

[Top_Gear_UK]

I hope u mean everything u say.

[ChemCat]

Everyone, have a Seat right ----->X Here.


Listen, we've been through some crazy bullshit from day one.


We're not going anywhere..Coins will be placed back with those that lost coins.


Believe  .....  We're going to get through this setback and be the Better for it All 


Hugs to you All 



Chem

 

[giancarlo]

Everyone, have a Seat right ----->X Here.


Listen, we've been through some crazy bullshit from day one.


We're not going anywhere..Coins will be placed back with those that lost coins.


Believe  .....  We're going to get through this setback and be the Better for it All 


Hugs to you All 



Chem

 

How exactly are you going to determine exactly how much coin was in everyones personal wallets?  And please CLARIFY the massive "negative balance" issues that have plagued this website for weeks, even months.  I was in a negative balance state of roughly .341 BTC for 3 weeks.. how is any of this being accounted for?  PriceWaterhouseCoopers would take 18 months to reconcile all of this, if even possible so how a handful of "admins" are going to do it escapes me.  Not trying to be negative, I'm just not seeing how this is at all realistic or possible.

[doctorwhat]

Everyone, have a Seat right ----->X Here.


Listen, we've been through some crazy bullshit from day one.


We're not going anywhere..Coins will be placed back with those that lost coins.


Believe  .....  We're going to get through this setback and be the Better for it All 


Hugs to you All 



Chem

 

Chem its great to hear from you. do you know when Defcon will be  addressing some of the questions. i feel like some of the people here would sleep a little easier if they new HOW  the coins are going to be added you know?

[ChemCat]

Hiya doctorwhat 

I understand that alot of people want to know "How"  things are going to be done and coins sent back...


However..It is not good for Everyone to know how everything works...some things are better left unknown, as long as everything happens in a positive way for Everyone 

Ya know?



That's all that i can Honestly say at this time.



Hugs 



Chem



 

[doctorwhat]

Hiya doctorwhat 

I understand that alot of people want to know "How"  things are going to be done and coins sent back...


However..It is not good for Everyone to know how everything works...some things are better left unknown, as long as everything happens in a positive way for Everyone 

Ya know?



That's all that i can Honestly say at this time.



Hugs 



Chem



 

i understand, let me rephrase in a way that OPSEC would allow, will it be automated or do i have to open a ticket.

thanks for sticking around and answering, it means a lot to me. shows us you guys are still in it for the right reasons.

[dimon114]

I just want to know if escrow will return to escrow.

I have an order on dispute, and solid evidence I got scammed. So the coins in escrow aren't just gonna go to the vendor right?

[IshitBacon]

I tend to agree with a lot of Def's explanation. The Gox software similarity was a ticking time bomb waiting to go off, and it offered the thief a perfect "cloak" if you will to mutate tx ID's. I think his candor should be applauded.

Ive worked in certain contract capacties in the past for him, and I can assure you all the guy's heart is in the right place.. but he comes from a technical background, and I've pointed out one of his greatest weaknesses is not being the best @ PR and effective communication.

It is what it is. Let's see how things progress. The thief is living on borrowed time. More on that later.

more on that later...
update later.....
expand later......
more details later....

why don't you just fuck off with all your fucking stories and theories....
you verbal diarrhea spilling mother-fucker

Thesoloist must have been the biggest hitter on SR from how he writes. Sorry big dawg everyone took a loss so how about you take a deep breath, man the fck up, and take it on the chin like the rest of us. Or I guess you can continue to put down the people who make you seem cooler to your friends in RL. You must be one of the guys that brags about having a good connect that no one else can get.

The truth is that this happen because the staff was to busy dipping their jewels in someone close to you  ‘s mouth in what is called the “gang bang”. You might have heard of it. Its all scientific and all that shit.

[ChemCat]

i understand, let me rephrase in a way that OPSEC would allow, will it be automated or do i have to open a ticket.

thanks for sticking around and answering, it means a lot to me. shows us you guys are still in it for the right reasons.

At this Time, as far as i know, it should be Automated.


You're Welcome, Mate 


I stick around because i have Faith and Truly Believe in the Fact that what we are doing is Ultimately, for the better, towards our Family.

People may say that we're thieves...However, we're Not....This will be the Second time that Staff will do without, in order to be able to Send all coins back to the Rightful Owners of said BTC's.


I hope this clears things up a bit for Everyone.


Hugs to you All 


Chem


 

[doctorwhat]

i understand, let me rephrase in a way that OPSEC would allow, will it be automated or do i have to open a ticket.

thanks for sticking around and answering, it means a lot to me. shows us you guys are still in it for the right reasons.

At this Time, as far as i know, it should be Automated.


You're Welcome, Mate 


I stick around because i have Faith and Truly Believe in the Fact that what we are doing is Ultimately, for the better, towards our Family.

People may say that we're thieves...However, we're Not....This will be the Second time that Staff will do without, in order to be able to Send all coins back to the Rightful Owners of said BTC's.


I hope this clears things up a bit for Everyone.


Hugs to you All 


Chem


 

oh chem your hugs mean a great deal to me now more than ever. Don't let the dissenters confuse you, you guys still have a following that cares .

[Bart3r]

Several pages and barely a single comment on this particular post, so I thought I might quote it here for posterity's sake.

Defcon was a 'man of his word' today.

He sent a partial refund for our escrow losses. (Far more than expected)

He could have ignored the call for help yesterday and deleted the message.

But he didnt.

And it has made a substantial positive difference to us.

I am deeply thankful for this and I am hopeful of a reunification.

I want to believe. And today I actually did again.

Thank you.

=)

I am here to serve this community and this movement, and after finally reading every comment in this thread I have to say, the majority of you are justified in your skepticism. However, with acts like these, and the repayment of ALL users funds, I hope those of you who ever had faith will regain it.

To those of you who are here purely to troll and divide, and were never a contributing member of this community, please exit stage left.  (thesiologist comes to mind.)

To those of you who can see through the fog and realize that Defcon is an honorable man and a man of his word, I sincerely thank you. Frankly, after a hack/theft/pick-your-vernacular of this magnitude, every single market admin has either ran off with any remaining coin or simply ran off. Defcon has not and will not do this, and nor will I. This staff is united, and we will make you whole again financially no matter what it takes.

Stealth

That just makes me think some are getting preferential treatment. Why pay some back before others? This does not make me feel like we are united, it does the opposite and looks like people who know enough are being paid off to keep quiet

[IshitBacon]

I guess the crew should learn how to start shitting btc to fit everyone's needs

[Praetorian]

We are happy the market has been taken offline until all of the features have been implemented.

We sincerely hope that this plan for the future is sucessful, and we may all mark this as a proud moment in history.

If not, it will simply be yet another turning point in our never ending journey for freedom.

[Wombat]

I just want to know if escrow will return to escrow.

I have an order on dispute, and solid evidence I got scammed. So the coins in escrow aren't just gonna go to the vendor right?

Jesus christ escrow is the damn problem.  Fuck an escrow system.  Let's FE all this shit.  If you get scammed to where it cripples you, then it is your own fault for being a fucking noob.  Do your homework and use decent vendors.  All I want is a damn centrally located area for my vendors and an open marketplace.  I dont need someone to protect my buyers rights.  Just inform yourself who is worth a shit and who isnt.  There is a whole rumor mill forum for that. 

[acapulcogold]

so this is the reason why all markets have problem with connection now , all users eat this story and now they are refreshing theyrs wallets in feelings that they have chance to broke hot wallet and earn some bitcoins with hack which happend:-) sorry for my english i use google translator 

kisses to all , i love you all 

miss acapulcogold

[dimon114]

I just want to know if escrow will return to escrow.

I have an order on dispute, and solid evidence I got scammed. So the coins in escrow aren't just gonna go to the vendor right?

Jesus christ escrow is the damn problem.  Fuck an escrow system.  Let's FE all this shit.  If you get scammed to where it cripples you, then it is your own fault for being a fucking noob.  Do your homework and use decent vendors.  All I want is a damn centrally located area for my vendors and an open marketplace.  I dont need someone to protect my buyers rights.  Just inform yourself who is worth a shit and who isnt.  There is a whole rumor mill forum for that.

you are a fool for speaking about what you know not. It was a trusted vendor, with hundreds of positive feedback.

And btw, you calling me a noob just shows me how much you know...

[Wombat]

I just want to know if escrow will return to escrow.

I have an order on dispute, and solid evidence I got scammed. So the coins in escrow aren't just gonna go to the vendor right?

Jesus christ escrow is the damn problem.  Fuck an escrow system.  Let's FE all this shit.  If you get scammed to where it cripples you, then it is your own fault for being a fucking noob.  Do your homework and use decent vendors.  All I want is a damn centrally located area for my vendors and an open marketplace.  I dont need someone to protect my buyers rights.  Just inform yourself who is worth a shit and who isnt.  There is a whole rumor mill forum for that.

you are a fool for speaking about what you know not. It was a trusted vendor, with hundreds of positive feedback.

And btw, you calling me a noob just shows me how much you know...

I said if you get scammed for enough that it cripples you, then you are a noob.   Sounds to me like you sent a little too much money to the wrong person and are butthurt about it. 

Rule number 1 of darknet drug trading: Don't ever send more money than you can afford to lose. 

Quit crying about getting scammed.  Shit happens.  I had a vendor back in 2009 that I would get K from.  I did multiple  100+ gram orders and then the one day I had saved up everything to get a kilo from him, he took the money and ran.  I learned a lesson.   There are far more serious issues at hand than you getting scammed. 

"waahh wahhh wahh protect me SR 2.0"

Use FE and your brain and protect yourself. 

[kurdman]

All a big cover up so they cant steal even more money.

These people are very smart people and have planned this through thoroughly. DONT FALL FOR THE TRAP AGAIN. its up to you... you will see once they steal everyone's money again and then people will think back "oh should of listen to the 'conspiracy theory''

find yourself a good vendor or two and deal with them directly.

But they're paying everyone back?...why would they scam everyone again like you said, and then pay that back as well?...This doesn't make sense,what would they gain from doing this?

I'm pretty sure after Defcon helping me out and otheres in the community already that they're being genuine..

Peace

There going to help some people out sure... they have millions to pay us back from... Defcon quoted "even if it takes a year" because thats how long it will take and more to pay everyone back... in this time people will start to trust them because there slowly paying people back. people will go on as nothing has happened then once they see a large amount in SR ( alot of traffic) then they will do it again... BAM ANOTHER SCAM... Yes they are paying people back and yes maybe they pay 2 hundred thousand back to people but thats a small sum to pay to get millions more... They have a birds eye view on everything... these people are very smart and know what there doing

[Tessellated]

It always seemed to me that it took hours for a deposit to show up. Given how long it took for deposits to show up I don't see how to attacker could have cycled so many times in such a short period of time.

Perhaps I am missing something.

[dimon114]

It always seemed to me that it took hours for a deposit to show up. Given how long it took for deposits to show up I don't see how to attacker could have cycled so many times in such a short period of time.

Perhaps I am missing something.

Well there's always lots of people on SR, so the sheer volume of deposit/withdrawals makes it take a while.
BUT
When the site is down for updates and the thief is the only one there...

^my theory anyway

[Wa1ter White]

It always seemed to me that it took hours for a deposit to show up. Given how long it took for deposits to show up I don't see how to attacker could have cycled so many times in such a short period of time.

Perhaps I am missing something.

Well there's always lots of people on SR, so the sheer volume of deposit/withdrawals makes it take a while.
BUT
When the site is down for updates and the thief is the only one there...

^my theory anyway

As we are onto conspiracy theories again...


It is awfully convenient that this theft happened just before all the coin held for orders that hadn't auto finalised had to be released... maybe this is all a story to cover up for the fact that they didn't have the coin to pay what was owed... all because DPR2 did take a huge slice of the coin when he went on the run???

[dimon114]

It always seemed to me that it took hours for a deposit to show up. Given how long it took for deposits to show up I don't see how to attacker could have cycled so many times in such a short period of time.

Perhaps I am missing something.

Well there's always lots of people on SR, so the sheer volume of deposit/withdrawals makes it take a while.
BUT
When the site is down for updates and the thief is the only one there...

^my theory anyway

As we are onto conspiracy theories again...


It is awfully convenient that this theft happened just before all the coin held for orders that hadn't auto finalised had to be released... maybe this is all a story to cover up for the fact that they didn't have the coin to pay what was owed... all because DPR2 did take a huge slice of the coin when he went on the run???

What conspiracy....I'm just saying: less depit/withdrawals = quicker deposit/withdrawals.

and the coin wasn't supposed to be released durring the update. That was supposed to happed 3 days after, so people have time to dispute.

[2fruits]

Holy fucking shit guys. I'm gay and therefore useed to encountering whiny bitches, yet even I have never seen whiny bitching taken to such a level as right here.

Blah blah blah conspiracy theory blah accusation blah blah my friend said... holy FUCK will you all just STFU?

You will never have a way to prove or disprove even the wildest conspiracy theory; it's not like you have a time machine or unfettered access to all of the SR2 system and logs and IP captures of the whole event. YOU WILL NEVER KNOW.

If you lost money on this outage; my condolences. So did I. But if you were wiped out/bankrupted by it, then you have nobody but yourself to blame. Rule one of business: NEVER PUT ALL YOUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET. This should be fucking obvious given the other market issues of the last 12 months. If you ignored it Yet Again to your peril, well it's your fault. Suck it up.

As for SR2 it's pretty easy: you either believe what is said and continue to stay with SR2, or you don't have faith and you take your business elsewhere. THIS IS A TWO SECOND DECISION. What you you hope to achieve with all this conspiracy theory accusation stuff? That you'll suddenly hit up The Golden Truth and the past will change? Jesus christ on a bicycle.

All that you're doing is wasting your own time; everyone else's, and if anything impeding the eventual re-opening and possible re-funding of everyone by saturating the admins with pointless demands. Get over it; move on or stay but for GOD'S SAKE shut UP!

[IshitBacon]

^^wait up whaat ^^^ ahahah that did kind of have OPSEC issues.

I guess some people who had a couple shillings in the system can’t appreciate how difficult this must be for the Mods. Maybe your statement could shut down some trolling, but then again this might get their panties in a twist because they just realized that they weren’t the biggest dawg on the bloc.

[luckysocks420]

Reading Defcon's post has just reminded me of that scene in Jurassic Park, after the guy with the glasses has robbed the embryos from cold storage (I'm not suggesting anything here btw just a coincidence ) and the park's gone to shit and Hammond (the old guy) is talking to that blonde woman  (Ellie?) in the cafeteria.
Hammond: Trusting Nedrey (is that his name?) was a mistake, we rely too much on automation but I see that now and once we regain control...
Ellie: Regain control? you never HAD control!

Or something like that.

Ultimately I think that , like Hammond , the people that run this site have good intentions but were never really in control of what they were doing. I can't help but feel any attempt to get the park back online, in any capacity, is gonna end up like Jurassic Park 2. This isn't a criticism (necessarily) but because none of us knows whats really going on behind the scenes we have to judge you on your results (which aren't great) not your posts.

[fallingsnow]

All a big cover up so they cant steal even more money.

These people are very smart people and have planned this through thoroughly. DONT FALL FOR THE TRAP AGAIN. its up to you... you will see once they steal everyone's money again and then people will think back "oh should of listen to the 'conspiracy theory''

find yourself a good vendor or two and deal with them directly.

But they're paying everyone back?...why would they scam everyone again like you said, and then pay that back as well?...This doesn't make sense,what would they gain from doing this?

I'm pretty sure after Defcon helping me out and otheres in the community already that they're being genuine..

Peace

You can't pay someone back with their own fucking money.

[DickCheneyRx]

So, now that they were allegedly hacked things will start moving quickly? But it was a shithole with ZERO infrastructure updates for a LONG ASS TIME before it happened. Now they can accomplish things quickly? Like I said before, I could smell the shit and pulled out all money from all accounts days before this happened.

NOW they can move quickly? Why not before?

[fallingsnow]

So, now that they were allegedly hacked things will start moving quickly? But it was a shithole with ZERO infrastructure updates for a LONG ASS TIME before it happened. Now they can accomplish things quickly? Like I said before, I could smell the shit and pulled out all money from all accounts days before this happened.

NOW they can move quickly? Why not before?

Regarding your subscript -- not vending until fixed -- how can the market be fixed when those running it can't be trusted? Whether a hack or theft, or whether just incompetence -- the fact remains, they cannot be trusted.

[doctorwhat]

So, now that they were allegedly hacked things will start moving quickly? But it was a shithole with ZERO infrastructure updates for a LONG ASS TIME before it happened. Now they can accomplish things quickly? Like I said before, I could smell the shit and pulled out all money from all accounts days before this happened.

NOW they can move quickly? Why not before?

Regarding your subscript -- not vending until fixed -- how can the market be fixed when those running it can't be trusted? Whether a hack or theft, or whether just incompetence -- the fact remains, they cannot be trusted.

i think you need to calm down, take a handfull of pills and drink a handle, if that doesn't work please fucking take a long walk of a short pier.

[DickCheneyRx]

Words words words. Defcon is not up to the task. Lynch mob? Say ANYTHING not riding the dick of this community and you get crucified. Amazing how this vendor registered an account in January and pulled it off while countless others - myself included, 3 times over - have been waiting since early January for our vendor bonds to even be recognized.

You want to run the biggest and best web on the darknet? Stay the fuck online. Ulbricht's opsec fucked him and your paranoia fucked you. You are incompetent. Again, all of a sudden SR can move speedily while since the new year jack shit had been done to improve it. Fuck off.

[Sunnyvale]

So, now that they were allegedly hacked things will start moving quickly? But it was a shithole with ZERO infrastructure updates for a LONG ASS TIME before it happened. Now they can accomplish things quickly? Like I said before, I could smell the shit and pulled out all money from all accounts days before this happened.

NOW they can move quickly? Why not before?

So, now that they were allegedly hacked things will start moving quickly? But it was a shithole with ZERO infrastructure updates for a LONG ASS TIME before it happened. Now they can accomplish things quickly? Like I said before, I could smell the shit and pulled out all money from all accounts days before this happened.

NOW they can move quickly? Why not before?

Regarding your subscript -- not vending until fixed -- how can the market be fixed when those running it can't be trusted? Whether a hack or theft, or whether just incompetence -- the fact remains, they cannot be trusted.

+1 to both. Trust is thrown out the window. Good luck getting those big vendors to keep selling here paying all that comission to the incompetence. After all the big vendors lost the money they just did AGAIN on silk road AGAIN any vendor with half a brain would not sell bulk/high money items.

Pandora and Agora it is!

[DickCheneyRx]

So, now that they were allegedly hacked things will start moving quickly? But it was a shithole with ZERO infrastructure updates for a LONG ASS TIME before it happened. Now they can accomplish things quickly? Like I said before, I could smell the shit and pulled out all money from all accounts days before this happened.

NOW they can move quickly? Why not before?

Regarding your subscript -- not vending until fixed -- how can the market be fixed when those running it can't be trusted? Whether a hack or theft, or whether just incompetence -- the fact remains, they cannot be trusted.

i think you need to calm down, take a handfull of pills and drink a handle, if that doesn't work please fucking take a long walk of a short pier.

The signature was written BEFORE this shit happen. I saw it coming as you all should have. I just like to make money and for people to hold their word. I'm not tripping. This was just going to add to my annual income - not make or break me. I'm not much into pills or alcohol, though. I smoke pot and make cash. Period.

[doctorwhat]

So, now that they were allegedly hacked things will start moving quickly? But it was a shithole with ZERO infrastructure updates for a LONG ASS TIME before it happened. Now they can accomplish things quickly? Like I said before, I could smell the shit and pulled out all money from all accounts days before this happened.

NOW they can move quickly? Why not before?

Regarding your subscript -- not vending until fixed -- how can the market be fixed when those running it can't be trusted? Whether a hack or theft, or whether just incompetence -- the fact remains, they cannot be trusted.

i think you need to calm down, take a handfull of pills and drink a handle, if that doesn't work please fucking take a long walk of a short pier.

The signature was written BEFORE this shit happen. I saw it coming as you all should have. I just like to make money and for people to hold their word. I'm not tripping. This was just going to add to my annual income - not make or break me. I'm not much into pills or alcohol, though. I smoke pot and make cash. Period.

that was fallingsnow, the little fuck has been spewing dumb shit on ever thread.  no offense to you.

[Sunnyvale]

So, now that they were allegedly hacked things will start moving quickly? But it was a shithole with ZERO infrastructure updates for a LONG ASS TIME before it happened. Now they can accomplish things quickly? Like I said before, I could smell the shit and pulled out all money from all accounts days before this happened.

NOW they can move quickly? Why not before?

Regarding your subscript -- not vending until fixed -- how can the market be fixed when those running it can't be trusted? Whether a hack or theft, or whether just incompetence -- the fact remains, they cannot be trusted.

i think you need to calm down, take a handfull of pills and drink a handle, if that doesn't work please fucking take a long walk of a short pier.

I think you need to deposit your life savings into your SR wallet as soon as you possibly can and just leave it there. I would bet 6 months it's gone.

[doctorwhat]

So, now that they were allegedly hacked things will start moving quickly? But it was a shithole with ZERO infrastructure updates for a LONG ASS TIME before it happened. Now they can accomplish things quickly? Like I said before, I could smell the shit and pulled out all money from all accounts days before this happened.

NOW they can move quickly? Why not before?

Regarding your subscript -- not vending until fixed -- how can the market be fixed when those running it can't be trusted? Whether a hack or theft, or whether just incompetence -- the fact remains, they cannot be trusted.

i think you need to calm down, take a handfull of pills and drink a handle, if that doesn't work please fucking take a long walk of a short pier.

I think you need to deposit your life savings into your SR wallet as soon as you possibly can and just leave it there. I would bet 6 months it's gone.

if you put your life savings in a drug market site, you are a fucking idiot. that being said i lost a good amount more than the fuck who has been bitching left and right, if you dont like it here GET THE FUCK OUT!

[wordpass]

So I am assuming ALL of the bitcoins are gone? not just the ones in escrow? is that right?

[Sunnyvale]

So, now that they were allegedly hacked things will start moving quickly? But it was a shithole with ZERO infrastructure updates for a LONG ASS TIME before it happened. Now they can accomplish things quickly? Like I said before, I could smell the shit and pulled out all money from all accounts days before this happened.

NOW they can move quickly? Why not before?

Regarding your subscript -- not vending until fixed -- how can the market be fixed when those running it can't be trusted? Whether a hack or theft, or whether just incompetence -- the fact remains, they cannot be trusted.

i think you need to calm down, take a handfull of pills and drink a handle, if that doesn't work please fucking take a long walk of a short pier.

I think you need to deposit your life savings into your SR wallet as soon as you possibly can and just leave it there. I would bet 6 months it's gone.

if you put your life savings in a drug market site, you are a fucking idiot. that being said i lost a good amount more than the fuck who has been bitching left and right, if you dont like it here GET THE FUCK OUT!

It's just to hard to not watch this train wreck of brown nosing and smoke and mirrors. It's quite amusing.

I am out BTW. MAKING money, not losing it. These forums are just my entertainment watching all these people have blind faith in a repeatedly failed experiment.



Wanna know the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

[Lief]

Several pages and barely a single comment on this particular post, so I thought I might quote it here for posterity's sake.

Defcon was a 'man of his word' today.

He sent a partial refund for our escrow losses. (Far more than expected)

He could have ignored the call for help yesterday and deleted the message.

But he didnt.

And it has made a substantial positive difference to us.

I am deeply thankful for this and I am hopeful of a reunification.

I want to believe. And today I actually did again.

Thank you.

=)

I am here to serve this community and this movement, and after finally reading every comment in this thread I have to say, the majority of you are justified in your skepticism. However, with acts like these, and the repayment of ALL users funds, I hope those of you who ever had faith will regain it.

To those of you who are here purely to troll and divide, and were never a contributing member of this community, please exit stage left.  (thesiologist comes to mind.)

To those of you who can see through the fog and realize that Defcon is an honorable man and a man of his word, I sincerely thank you. Frankly, after a hack/theft/pick-your-vernacular of this magnitude, every single market admin has either ran off with any remaining coin or simply ran off. Defcon has not and will not do this, and nor will I. This staff is united, and we will make you whole again financially no matter what it takes.

Stealth

I'd +1 you but I can't for 72 hrs.

Actions do speak louder than words and Defcon helping people out who are screwed has spoken volumes to me today.

If it hasn't to anyone else then they're too thick to be here and probably don't really use the site anyway.

Don't let the bastards get you down.

[sildenafil]

[urbantoker]

Any ideas on when SR will be back hours,days,months,weeks?

[saganlives2]

Any ideas on when SR will be back hours,days,months,weeks?

No official ETA from what i've read.
iirc Stealth did state that its only going up once EVERYTHING is good to go, no cutting corners this time.

Imo, thats the smartest thing to do seeing the 'business' we are in.
A lot of people are hating right now and will probably leave no matter what.

Im pretty sure nobody who put their heart and soul into this (yes over-hastened) rebuild of what was imo one of dw's most stand up sites with only the highest values in mind, is liking what they see right now.
Yes mistakes have been made and pointed out but we have been shown courage in the face of devastation and with the breath of LEO on our necks. If OPSEC isn't more key now than ever, we might simply just be posting on facebook like atlantis.

Which is also why no details about the update can or should ever be disclosed on this forum, where simply with tor anyone can read, register and write.

Im using a lot of words to make it as clear as possible so those with the real work dont have to waste it being on the forums all the time.

Restructuring any network is hard, let alone one one the dw that is constantly subject to both LEO and hacker attacks. This is not a simple feat and nor is telling exactly how long it will take.

In other words: im pretty sure staff is most excited of all to restart the site but (thankfully) very cautious.
If they have any kind of certainty of timing  with which they can come forth, i suppose they won't be waiting very long to make that announcement.

After the original backlash when first deadline didnt hold up, It seems logical for them not to want to jump to conclusions and have to repeat that process.

I know this gives you jack shit besides a nice speech to go on and im not even remotely connected to staff.
But hey, with what staff has shown us, the benefit of the doubt is certainly with them.

(yes i keep repeating that lol, but i'm also starting to see a lot of forces for good trying really hard and that is what personally keeps my hopes up at these times)

[Wakeside917]

I appreciate the disclosure Defcon.  I look forward to the reopening.

[knifehandchop]

Wow, so much flame.

From the perspective of just another nobody SR user I can say that I don't feel like I've been scammed. The coins I lost I was willing to loose anyway. I never placed more trust in SR than was required to obtain some really nice products and that amount of trust was pretty low to start with.

It was actually the fantastic vendors I've dealt with on SR (and on other sites) that have built my respect and trust in online markets. So far it has only ever been the back-end systems and their administrators that have cost me coin.

People saying things like "come to some other market or you are a sheep" need to realize that those other markets are no more worthy of my warm woolly trust than SR.

If Defcon is a scammer then it will simply be a big "fuck you cunt" and I go elsewhere, either online or in person, for my gear.

If Defcon is pure gold then we will see ideas developed and implemented that not only protect vendors and buyers from each other but also protect us all from the systems on which we trade.

Peace!

[Kazma]

as this is a "full disclosure" check this thread:

http://silkroad5v7dywlc/index.php?topic=26689.0

[saganlives2]

Wow, so much flame.

From the perspective of just another nobody SR user I can say that I don't feel like I've been scammed. The coins I lost I was willing to loose anyway. I never placed more trust in SR than was required to obtain some really nice products and that amount of trust was pretty low to start with.

It was actually the fantastic vendors I've dealt with on SR (and on other sites) that have built my respect and trust in online markets. So far it has only ever been the back-end systems and their administrators that have cost me coin.

People saying things like "come to some other market or you are a sheep" need to realize that those other markets are no more worthy of my warm woolly trust than SR.

If Defcon is a scammer then it will simply be a big "fuck you cunt" and I go elsewhere, either online or in person, for my gear.

If Defcon is pure gold then we will see ideas developed and implemented that not only protect vendors and buyers from each other but also protect us all from the systems on which we trade.

Peace!

+1 although the big and trusted vendors seem the most affected, not us regular buyers (who had some common sense and didnt use SR2 as a wallet)

Just by talking to one of them who had half of effectively, his money, still in escrow
after I got all my orders, made me rethink the whole thing. I have no idea how the vendor system works or how they can keep track if SR is indeed shutdown, but I could tell he was honestly happy that I contacted him myself.

as fucking cliché as it is, trust is all we have over here.
Time to get everything straightened out code wise, perhaps even decentralize (maybe in the works?) or something else completely drastic.
But the movement that was started by DPR and the original SR, with decent business ethics and where scammers were (at first anyway) pretty quickly thrown out is something that will continue no matter what.

So we can all sob and say hey go to this market, that market,.... and all start from scratch and to end up getting scammed anyway, or we at the very least stand by the people who have taken a vow to fix this, no matter what or how long it takes.

Mistakes are meant to be learnt from and will only make us stronger in the long run, as long as that run lasts. If done right, we can keep evolving and the run will thus keep lasting.

The time is now and the place is here.

Our real enemies are LEO. I pick digital currency being compromised by hackers/exploiters over getting compromised by LEO any day of the week.

[Lief]

i understand, let me rephrase in a way that OPSEC would allow, will it be automated or do i have to open a ticket.

thanks for sticking around and answering, it means a lot to me. shows us you guys are still in it for the right reasons.

At this Time, as far as i know, it should be Automated.


You're Welcome, Mate 


I stick around because i have Faith and Truly Believe in the Fact that what we are doing is Ultimately, for the better, towards our Family.

People may say that we're thieves...However, we're Not....This will be the Second time that Staff will do without, in order to be able to Send all coins back to the Rightful Owners of said BTC's.


I hope this clears things up a bit for Everyone.


Hugs to you All 


Chem


 

Hi Chem, I don't think that's fair that staff should do without otherwise why should you all take the HUGE risks you do every day?

[meandmypills]

We can pray for a batter future for the community.

[FredandFlintstone]

We can pray for a batter future for the community.

Ironic coming from a proven scammer.

[ChemCat]

i understand, let me rephrase in a way that OPSEC would allow, will it be automated or do i have to open a ticket.

thanks for sticking around and answering, it means a lot to me. shows us you guys are still in it for the right reasons.

At this Time, as far as i know, it should be Automated.


You're Welcome, Mate 


I stick around because i have Faith and Truly Believe in the Fact that what we are doing is Ultimately, for the better, towards our Family.

People may say that we're thieves...However, we're Not....This will be the Second time that Staff will do without, in order to be able to Send all coins back to the Rightful Owners of said BTC's.


I hope this clears things up a bit for Everyone.


Hugs to you All 


Chem


 

Hi Chem, I don't think that's fair that staff should do without otherwise why should you all take the HUGE risks you do every day?

Because, We Believe.


Hugs



Chem

               

[murderface2012]

i understand, let me rephrase in a way that OPSEC would allow, will it be automated or do i have to open a ticket.

thanks for sticking around and answering, it means a lot to me. shows us you guys are still in it for the right reasons.

At this Time, as far as i know, it should be Automated.


You're Welcome, Mate 


I stick around because i have Faith and Truly Believe in the Fact that what we are doing is Ultimately, for the better, towards our Family.

People may say that we're thieves...However, we're Not....This will be the Second time that Staff will do without, in order to be able to Send all coins back to the Rightful Owners of said BTC's.


I hope this clears things up a bit for Everyone.


Hugs to you All 


Chem


 

Hi Chem, I don't think that's fair that staff should do without otherwise why should you all take the HUGE risks you do every day?

Because, We Believe.


Hugs



Chem

               

CHEM!!
I have faith brother!!

[twatWaffle]

This whole fiasco has led me to a coupla conclusions.

Defcon is operating under huge constraints, something I liken to the Atlas of ancient Greece with the weight of the world supported between his shoulders.

Money can't buy trust or respect, those are earned.

Fact is, any one of us could have done the heist. I am one who has exploited this vulnerability when Deepbay was still up. I hadn't figured out exactly how I did what I did, until this happened to SR2. But yes, I accidentally jacked Deepbay for about 3 bitcoins. If I could do it, anybody else could have done it. I am not a great tech wizard super geek, obviously.

I am again struck by how much I care. I haven't lost much, not even a full fiddee. Yet I give two shits, feverishly.

I want this idea to function. I want to believe.

[DrMDA]

If only Ross could get his hands on a computer with internet access in that county jail..... I wonder if they accept packages from Dell. Anyone know?

[MDMA80]

sub'd

[lashesxo]

We can pray for a batter future for the community.

GTFO, thief. 

[ziggamortis]

only FE market with current feedback system= scammer s heaven

We are open to suggestions. "Current feedback system" - what quick improvements would you make to enable FE-only to operate safer?

Link forums accounts to buyer accounts and require at least 100 posts in order to buy something on SR. Remove the option to 'Spam to 50' and destroy any forums accounts that haven't posted in a month.  Make it so accounts can only leave 1 bit of feedback per vendor per week (Allow multiple orders but not multiple feedbacks) Leave the forums for item specific feedback. Close vendor registration or hike up the bond fee.

[SandStorm]

I have decided I'm convinced by the official story of SR to what happened. This means that Defcon did seriously fuck up, but he had the best of intentions. It is nice to see he want to fix it, but don't bite over a bigger piece than you can handle. If you're going to do like Atlas and carry the heavens upon your shoulders you're going to break down eventually (inspired by twattWaffles post).

[maximumoutput]

We can pray for a batter future for the community.

GTFO, thief.  >:( ::)

LOL..

[maximumoutput]

I have decided I'm convinced by the official story of SR to what happened. This means that Defcon did seriously fuck up, but he had the best of intentions. It is nice to see he want to fix it, but don't bite over a bigger piece than you can handle. If you're going to do like Atlas and carry the heavens upon your shoulders you're going to break down eventually (inspired by twattWaffles post).

I'm in two minds what to believe now to be honest but like you said he's trying to make things right...that's all that matters.

Peace!

[p3nd8s]

SR will never die!

[sirchade]

I believe Defcon is telling the truth. I suppose we'll see within the next few weeks....... I also accet that Defcon may be lying; however I have a gut feeling he's legit.

[jabbatheslut]

only FE market with current feedback system= scammer s heaven

We are open to suggestions. "Current feedback system" - what quick improvements would you make to enable FE-only to operate safer?

Firstly, introduce a more rigorous probation period for new vendors, which can only be lifted after a number of random purchases have been made by a dedicated, secret team.
Vendors on probation could, for instance, face limits on the amount or price of products they can list, or the number of transactions they can conduct during the probation period. Once their integrity has been established by a number of secret transactions by the mystery shoppers, the probation period could be lifted.

As previously stated, I firmly believe that the most efficient and effective way to restore confidence in the marketplace is to have all new vendors secretly vetted by a team of Mystery Shoppers.

These would be, to all intents and purposes, otherwise unremarkable "garden variety" buyers who, from time to time, are engaged to purchase from a new vendor and provide a detailed report on the transaction.

Alternately they could be a dedicated team with permanent membership, but this could lead to their identities being detected.

The key is for the identity of the Mystery Shoppers and the timing or frequency of their transactions to remain unknown, thus (in theory) giving new vendors an incentive to provide a consistent level of service and quality.

The Mystery Shoppers would provide detailed feedback on their transaction with a new vendor, and this feedback could even appear in a separate category to other buyer feedback, to distinguish it from possibly false feedback generated by fake transactions.

For more conclusive results, ongoing quality control and investigation of buyer complaints, multiple mystery shopper transactions could be made.

Mystery Shoppers could also be used as a way of ongoing Quality Assurance - to randomly review the quality and service of any vendor, new or veteran.

The results of their transaction would then determine whether a new vendor should progress beyond the default probation period.

To prevent the possibility of collusion between mystery shopper and vendor, membership of the team could be rotated, or multiple Mystery Shopper purchases could be required to establish the bona fides of any new vendor.

These two measures - a probation period for vendors coupled with random Quality Assurance provided by a team of Mystery Shoppers will go a long way to preventing scam vendors setting themselves up with fake feedback from fake transactions, and I am confident they could be easily implemented.

[twatWaffle]

Copied from Jabbatheslut "These two measures - a probation period for vendors coupled with random Quality Assurance provided by a team of Mystery Shoppers will go a long way to preventing scam vendors setting themselves up with fake feedback from fake transactions, and I am confident they could be easily implemented."

Yes. This. Absolutely. They will never know which are the mystery shoppers. Boom, scamming douches revealed, vendor bond revoked. +1

[flightisnormal]

Could someone repost the OP, please?

[StratosGuppy]

Could someone repost the OP, please?

What was the point of bringing the thread back when the OP is missing 

[besam191]

it was still stickied 

[sandwich]

I need to pay my bills. Hurry up wit open the market please:(

i need to drop my pills but your packaging mustve failed!

[dingwall_3]

hey DEFCON any chance you can say that again please  -)

[Strangiato]

So basically you can't even tell us why the staff is innocent without compromising your "security" and you claim you don't want anyone to find the theif. Violence isn't tolerated here in this den of theivery and scams. This sounds very suspicious. You blast one of the few people trying to find the person with your Orwellian censorship. Apparently drugs are tolerated but freedom isn't.

[thegoose1000]

So the coins were in hot storage because 3 days later some of them would be used for AF? why have them sit in hot storage for 3 days?

Not being sarcastic or provocative or w.e, I just really don't get it.

+1

You dont get how to vaccum pack or use mbb foil either which resulted in a police visit at my door some time ago.. I denied and luckily got of the hook. Hope you have improved since^^ one love, your shit is wicket anyway