Author Topic: Going to communicate with certain people, Happy holidays everyone!!  (Read 2356 times)

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No one should worry.

With all luck I will be clearing things up soon.

I am leaving this thread up until I do just in case.

[NOTE: ALL POSTS MADE BY ME ARE EDITED TO ADD IN GRAMATICAL AND GENERAL ERROR TO PREVENT STYLOMETRY]
« Last Edit: December 25, 2013, 01:27:15 am by YourHumbleServant »
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Also, In private message encrypted I can try and bring proof I am not full of shit.
I should still be able to get the messages between DPR2 and myself and hand them over as proof

They are encrypted as you will be able to see from him and I will give you my pgp private key and password to decrypt them.
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I can already see that people do not believe me by the negative karma which is now coming in quickly.

If there are any mods, forward this thread to the powers that be.
Or delete it and send me a mesaage that it has been forwarded.
I can speak to any of the mods or admins, to prove I am not spewing bullshit.
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Then PM the mods. It isn't a matter of if what you know is true. It is a matter of if what you know will hurt this community. By posting this here you are just stirring up shit and I am sure that there are people that would like to talk to you but some things are best talked about in private.
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Then PM the mods. It isn't a matter of if what you know is true. It is a matter of if what you know will hurt this community. By posting this here you are just stirring up shit and I am sure that there are people that would like to talk to you but some things are best talked about in private.
The community should know if something is wrong with an admin and if they have been told lies.

Its that simple. This is not a private matter in reality as it concers the safety of everyone who would use the road, especially if something is indeed wrong.

Of coarse if I hear reasoning that is logical to me then I will shut my mouth.
There is this sence of security that has swarmed through many of the members after hearing from oracle and defcon. This is the kind of security that makes people act with less caution.
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We should all assume the market is being run by LE and we will be fine. Encrypt all Private communications and only deal with trusted vendors. Its that simple.
My eyes are clear and pure, but my mind is so deranged.

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We should all assume the market is being run by LE and we will be fine. Encrypt all Private communications and only deal with trusted vendors. Its that simple.
I said that yesterday quoting defcon.
If everyone used pgp then what would be the problem
Unfortunetly a majority of people are not willing to put in the miniscule effort of learning something that can keep you out of jail.

Wow, I even lost my positive karma...
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All I mean by that is that yes it is obvious we aren't being told the whole truth about dpr etc. Even so I don't think any of us are operating on the assumption that this site is "safe".  PGP everything, tumble coins, use trusted vendors.  Rule number one for this lifestyle is STFU. Any private communication you had with other people is just that.
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The thing is none of us can believe what anybody else is saying atm, who are you, LE? how do we know that the story you, or oracle, or anyone else for that matter tells us is true anymore? each too there own, PGP, trusted vendors, onwards and upwards.
Need too know basis, nobody needs too know.

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All I mean by that is that yes it is obvious we aren't being told the whole truth about dpr etc. Even so I don't think any of us are operating on the assumption that this site is "safe".  PGP everything, tumble coins, use trusted vendors.  Rule number one for this lifestyle is STFU. Any private communication you had with other people is just that.
Again I agree completly and have previously been a proud member of the OG pgp club on SR1.

PGP should be required for every order. Unfortunetly that will never happen as 75% of profits would be lost.
It is honeslty sad and makes me sick to my stomach to think about all of the people from SR1 who are fucked just because they wouldnt spend 5 minutes to learn a skill.

This matter is not private if it concerns the whole community.
Thats all I can say, I am sorry if you disagree.
I also spoke to ross many times yet you never would hear about any of those conversations because what he said to me was positive and private.

What I was told by DPR2 with all of the conlficting statements makes me worry for the community.

I am a vendor, I never keep my coins in the site, I have nothing to worry about. The only reason I created this account was to warn users and keep some people safe.
I am not speculating, I am not creating theories as that is pointless and spreads FUD.
I spoke directly with dpr2 and I have certain information which I know to be fact
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The thing is none of us can believe what anybody else is saying atm, who are you, LE? how do we know that the story you, or oracle, or anyone else for that matter tells us is true anymore? each too there own, PGP, trusted vendors, onwards and upwards.
This is true, if defcon communicates with me and oracle and things were to go south, then I will post my information along with DPR2's pgp messages for anyone to decrypt.
The private key I used and password do not mean anything to me and were only used for the communication I had with DPR.
This would make my statements undeniably true.

Right now I need to locate the archive of the old forums....
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If you're posting here to get them to message you... why not just.. message them?

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Taking a few hours' break to enjoy the week with family. Will PM you afterwards.

If DPR2 did ask for your personal information, then it must have been before he decided this policy. All I know is that he insisted that it should never be it a requirement, and he never asked for my personal information.
I do not respond to unencrypted messages. PGP key is in my profile.

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Taking a few hours' break to enjoy the week with family. Will PM you afterwards.

If DPR2 did ask for your personal information, then it must have been before he decided this policy. All I know is that he insisted that it should never be it a requirement, and he never asked for my personal information.
Understandable.
PM as soon as possible, no rush. As long we talk before the market reopens it will not be a problem. No damage really can be done while it is down so I can wait.

We will have to speak about details because I spoke to him before and after he founded and I believe you were already around when I was still speaking to him. Which creates a conflict in statements.

My public key is in my profile. We will talk when you can, if everything is on the up and up you wont be hearing from me again unless you need any help.

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Now onto oracle. I am not sure if you either are intentionally lying as you have a vested interest in spreading some false information. Which would be understable if you are trying to protect DPR2.

Or maybe you have just followed the journy and have been misinformed.
Here is what I do know. Message me so we can talk. I have also been present through this whole trip on the inner circle. Seemingly closer than you have.

Ladies and gentlemen, there are a lot of falsehoods being spread around. A lot of bullshit. Or at least a lot of information that does not add up with the information I knew directly from DPR.
I have believed in the idea of the silk road since its creation. It is everything I stand for.
True freedom.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
-Thomas Jefferson

Such an amazing thing can not be formed on falsehoods.

Defcon and Oracle, message me


EDITED AS DEFCON IS MESSAGING ME WHEN HE CAN.

if you're only prepared to discuss this matter through pm's then why not just pm the guy about it in the first place? ..why even bother to post this here at all?
Two reasons.
1: I needed to get the parties that are addressed attention as quick as possible. If I just sent a message it would have been sweeped under the doormat with the heaps of other messages.
2: If things go south then this is the thread I will be posting the details in.


« Last Edit: December 24, 2013, 05:22:19 pm by YourHumbleServant »
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Troll thread
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Troll thread
It cleary is not and you can see defcons post on the first page, we are indeed speaking
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The thing is none of us can believe what anybody else is saying atm, who are you, LE? how do we know that the story you, or oracle, or anyone else for that matter tells us is true anymore? each too there own, PGP, trusted vendors, onwards and upwards.
This is true, if defcon communicates with me and oracle and things were to go south, then I will post my information along with DPR2's pgp messages for anyone to decrypt.
The private key I used and password do not mean anything to me and were only used for the communication I had with DPR.
This would make my statements undeniably true.

Right now I need to locate the archive of the old forums....

Like a week ago there was a thread asking about the old SRF backup; the 360Mb file link that worked that day, no longer works now... somebody just took it down very recently.
http://staticjdz7il5nnz.onion/stexo_sr_forum.zip

Here's the thread:
http://silkroad5v7dywlc/index.php?topic=10064.msg183586#msg183586


And btw... I was one of the first, if not the very first person to read your OP.   It did not earn you a -1 from me. 

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I never saw that larger version - I had the small cut down version plus several key threads I grabbed myself at the time.

Does anyone still have the larger 360mb backup?

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I never saw that larger version - I had the small cut down version plus several key threads I grabbed myself at the time.

Does anyone still have the larger 360mb backup?
It would be extremely helpful is someone had it. I have had quite some trouble locating a full enough version.

I had a full archive saved, unfortunely as of last week it is gone.
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I'm with you on this one, YHS.  Guys, it's not about being right or wrong.  I don't think the OP opened this thread to toot his own horn.  I think he did it because he as he said something just isn't adding up and he's suspicious.  He smells something fishy.  He is a seeker of the truth and so am I.  I too am not buying what oracle is selling and I posted in his thread as to why.  He has def. changed his tone.  It's funny how all the posts and evidence to support what I'm saying are now gone.  Someone, either oracle or a mod, did some serious clean up work.  Oracle has had a lot of posts deleted from that first 24 hours when the news was coming out.  Oracle could only side with one mod and was skepitcal about the trustworthiness of the others.  He said he felt that only Cirrus was a decent guy and made all the other mods sound crooked.  But now in his important announcement thread he is saying oh everything is OK guys because the admins/mods are in control of the site.  Well wait a second, oracle.  Were you not just saying a couple of days ago about how the mods were immoral and couldn't be trusted?  Now you start a thread telling us to trust them and you!?  Yet he claims he was never a mod/admin/developer/vendor/buyer of any sorts.  The guy took about a 7 weeks hiatus from even posting on the SR2 forums.  From 11/7 through 12/20 the guy didn't post once.  I can't speculate as to why that is, but to me it's suspicious for someone who claims to be in the know.  Has anyone confirmed that oracle is who he says he is?  I mean, has anyone confirmed an encrypted or signed message from him?  For all we know the real oracle was banned his account was taken over by one of the immoral mods that the real oracle spoke about. 
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His signature checks out so whoever has his account now has the key associated with it.


I'm with you on this one, YHS.  Guys, it's not about being right or wrong.  I don't think the OP opened this thread to toot his own horn.  I think he did it because he as he said something just isn't adding up and he's suspicious.  He smells something fishy.  He is a seeker of the truth and so am I.  I too am not buying what oracle is selling and I posted in his thread as to why.  He has def. changed his tone.  It's funny how all the posts and evidence to support what I'm saying are now gone.  Someone, either oracle or a mod, did some serious clean up work.  Oracle has had a lot of posts deleted from that first 24 hours when the news was coming out.  Oracle could only side with one mod and was skepitcal about the trustworthiness of the others.  He said he felt that only Cirrus was a decent guy and made all the other mods sound crooked.  But now in his important announcement thread he is saying oh everything is OK guys because the admins/mods are in control of the site.  Well wait a second, oracle.  Were you not just saying a couple of days ago about how the mods were immoral and couldn't be trusted?  Now you start a thread telling us to trust them and you!?  Yet he claims he was never a mod/admin/developer/vendor/buyer of any sorts.  The guy took about a 7 weeks hiatus from even posting on the SR2 forums.  From 11/7 through 12/20 the guy didn't post once.  I can't speculate as to why that is, but to me it's suspicious for someone who claims to be in the know.  Has anyone confirmed that oracle is who he says he is?  I mean, has anyone confirmed an encrypted or signed message from him?  For all we know the real oracle was banned his account was taken over by one of the immoral mods that the real oracle spoke about.
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Something is definitely off.  Keep asking questions people.

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I'm with you on this one, YHS.  Guys, it's not about being right or wrong.  I don't think the OP opened this thread to toot his own horn.  I think he did it because he as he said something just isn't adding up and he's suspicious.  He smells something fishy.  He is a seeker of the truth and so am I.  I too am not buying what oracle is selling and I posted in his thread as to why.  He has def. changed his tone.  It's funny how all the posts and evidence to support what I'm saying are now gone.  Someone, either oracle or a mod, did some serious clean up work.  Oracle has had a lot of posts deleted from that first 24 hours when the news was coming out.  Oracle could only side with one mod and was skepitcal about the trustworthiness of the others.  He said he felt that only Cirrus was a decent guy and made all the other mods sound crooked.  But now in his important announcement thread he is saying oh everything is OK guys because the admins/mods are in control of the site.  Well wait a second, oracle.  Were you not just saying a couple of days ago about how the mods were immoral and couldn't be trusted?  Now you start a thread telling us to trust them and you!?  Yet he claims he was never a mod/admin/developer/vendor/buyer of any sorts.  The guy took about a 7 weeks hiatus from even posting on the SR2 forums.  From 11/7 through 12/20 the guy didn't post once.  I can't speculate as to why that is, but to me it's suspicious for someone who claims to be in the know.  Has anyone confirmed that oracle is who he says he is?  I mean, has anyone confirmed an encrypted or signed message from him?  For all we know the real oracle was banned his account was taken over by one of the immoral mods that the real oracle spoke about.
My biggest issue with oracle is that post where he divulged all of that information.
There were a couple big falsehoods in there. I know these to things to be false because I was present when they occured, or better when they did NOT occur.

There are many contradictions with certain admins and information out there, but I am not speculating or creating theory. We dont need people scared if there is no reason to be. If this effects no one and maybe keeps a couple people safe. Then fine.
That is why I asked defcon and oracle to message me so we can talk this out.
If I do not come to a conclusion why these falsehood got spread, then I will release which parts of the so called, "enlightenment" which he released are false. I will also bring proof which cannot be disagreed with. Verified pgp messages  from some big players along with the private key and password the community can use to decrypt them. Plus more which I will not speak of until I know it is neccesary.

Just as a point I am pretty convinced that all of this misinformation and lying is here specifically to protect DPR2. Is that a bad thing? If it hurts no one and only protects him, then kudos.

Later I will explain everything. I am just preparing for that moment and some of the information to back me up would be in an archive of the old forums. So if anyone can get me a really full version, you should know you just might be saving a lot of people with your simple upload.

If I wanted to "toot my own horn" I would have just put all of the information out there.
The fact is I have been here since the beggining, and the silk road is the physical manifestation of everything I have faught for my whole life. I am not about to let it die because of a few greedy individuals.

Dont applaud me as of yet because I havent done anything.
It is all resting on defcon and oracle. It would seem oracle has not even viewed this thread.
I have been watching: silkroad5v7dywlc/index.php?action=who

For example,
CaptainMurphy    09:13:57 pm    Viewing YourHumbleServant's profile.
Online renton    09:13:37 pm    Viewing oracle's profile.

I am pretty sure that his profile isnt set to not show that he is on when he is. I saw a green light by his name when he was logged on.

As said previously, I am speaking with defcon currently so his part will become clear to me soon. Something is definitly wrong with this picture I will tell you that much.

I am now sending the link to this thread to oracle. When he logs in hopefully he will see it. If anyone wants to help forward the link to oracle so he doesnt somehow look over just my one message it would be helpful. I dont want this ignored. Hopefully I will be able to answer some of the questions that are plagueing the community.
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Just as a point because of the holiday and everything that goes along with it, I am understanding if I dont hear immediatly from him.

I just want this all solved before the market reopens.
Because if there is something wrong, and people start making purchases, then I am going to feel horrible for not getting out the information I should have. Then it will be too late.
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Its ok guys, this is just psy-ops ontop of psy-ops. What they did was put sleeper cells into this forum to set up sleeper cells, who in turn set up dummy accounts to make sleeper cell psy-ops sleeper accounts. All for our good. This guy is just the next sleeper cell in a line of sleeper cells. (sarcasm)

At this point its going to take me a long time to build up trust in SR again. To defcon/dpr3/oracle/"stakeholders"/whoever the fuck this guy is, the way you've handled the fall out from this is truly abysmal.
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As DoctorClu said earlier today, and I paraphrase, secrets keep us safe.

It is human nature to want to know everything about everything. We're all guilty of being curious - the very nature of this place breeds in most an incessant desire to "find things out."

Disinformation, misinformation, lack of information...things aren't adding up to a lot of you...I imagine the hope is that things also aren't adding up to the various law enforcement agencies investigating our leadership.

I don't give a damn if Defcon comes on here and swears on my grandmother's grave that he is in fact a small kitten with telekinetic powers. As long as it helps him stay a free man, then so be it. The same goes for everyone else as well. We don't NEED to know everything guys.

If you take anything away from my post, let it be these two things.

1) Sensitive information is not made public because it puts real people in real danger.
2) Defcon is a kitten.

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As DoctorClu said earlier today, and I paraphrase, secrets keep us safe.

It is human nature to want to know everything about everything. We're all guilty of being curious - the very nature of this place breeds in most an incessant desire to "find things out."

Disinformation, misinformation, lack of information...things aren't adding up to a lot of you...I imagine the hope is that things also aren't adding up to the various law enforcement agencies investigating our leadership.

I don't give a damn if Defcon comes on here and swears on my grandmother's grave that he is in fact a small kitten with telekinetic powers. As long as it helps him stay a free man, then so be it. The same goes for everyone else as well. We don't NEED to know everything guys.

If you take anything away from my post, let it be these two things.

1) Sensitive information is not made public because it puts real people in real danger.
2) Defcon is a kitten.

+1 to this.

It doesn't matter if we have the truth, or if we're misinformed.

As long as we're guided in the right direction and we get the gist of whats going on, then we're good to go.

I, for one, sleep easier knowing that i DON'T know all of the details. Think about it - thats the essence of what we all strive for - decentralization.

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http://antilop DOT cc/sr/

very bottom - download section
Is this in fact the download?
I never feel confortable downloading something blindly.
Can anyone confirm this is a large archive?
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As DoctorClu said earlier today, and I paraphrase, secrets keep us safe.

It is human nature to want to know everything about everything. We're all guilty of being curious - the very nature of this place breeds in most an incessant desire to "find things out."

Disinformation, misinformation, lack of information...things aren't adding up to a lot of you...I imagine the hope is that things also aren't adding up to the various law enforcement agencies investigating our leadership.

I don't give a damn if Defcon comes on here and swears on my grandmother's grave that he is in fact a small kitten with telekinetic powers. As long as it helps him stay a free man, then so be it. The same goes for everyone else as well. We don't NEED to know everything guys.

If you take anything away from my post, let it be these two things.

1) Sensitive information is not made public because it puts real people in real danger.
2) Defcon is a kitten.
+1
I understand that, that is why depending on what I find out I will disclose the info or not.
For the record, if it does come to me having to put all the info out there, it only would effect one persons freedom, but in that situation would save many, many people.
Gossip and the many little pieces dont matter. I just dont want people going to jail and losing faith in something so revolutionary.

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Well damn.. was spending Christmas with family! Didn't even plan to hop online today/tomorrow.. but get on and see this.

I'm not sure why you'd say I'm misinformed. As I've stated, there are several key elements and facts that have been left out for the security/safety of individuals, the site, the community and of course as not to annoy SR leadership.

Heres the thing, you're damned if you do, damned if you dont. If you're too vague, people get pissed and start demanding to know each and every detail of whats going on and why the silence. If you're too specific, people don't like the truth because it doesn't sit well with the narrartive they've concocted in their heads.. so.. what do you do? I know what I do.. go have another drink!

Merry Christmas everyone
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Interesting reading. Merry Xmas
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Well damn.. was spending Christmas with family! Didn't even plan to hop online today/tomorrow.. but get on and see this.

I'm not sure why you'd say I'm misinformed. As I've stated, there are several key elements and facts that have been left out for the security/safety of individuals, the site, the community and of course as not to annoy SR leadership.

Heres the thing, you're damned if you do, damned if you dont. If you're too vague, people get pissed and start demanding to know each and every detail of whats going on and why the silence. If you're too specific, people don't like the truth because it doesn't sit well with the narrartive they've concocted in their heads.. so.. what do you do? I know what I do.. go have another drink!

Merry Christmas everyone
You just avoided everything writtin here.
It is christmas so as said previously I understand a delay on messaging me back.
Send me a PM, lets talk. There is no opinion I have. I was present with all of the key players. There are a couple points in your post which are wrong and I believe it was done purposely.
You make a mistake. I am not saying that you, "left out" information. I am saying that you put in false information.
Please send me a message, my key is on my profile. I would rather not speak about all of this, including the details, in public. Of coarse until the time where I find it neccesary to do so.
I have a vested interest in that I want no one to go to jail.

Realize, these are not games we are playing, and this is not "gossip."
Peoples whole lives are in the balance here. At least those people that choose not to use encryption....
Send me a message,
All I want is to help, we can figure this out.
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I understand that, that is why depending on what I find out I will disclose the info or not.
For the record, if it does come to me having to put all the info out there, it only would effect one persons freedom, but in that situation would save many, many people.

Gossip and the many little pieces dont matter. I just dont want people going to jail and losing faith in something so revolutionary.

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You lost me there completely my friend. If you feel so much as a fart coming on that might cause another human being to be locked up, you better hold that fart in. Squeeze those cheeks.

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I am posting this from another thread


ANYONE who has given their dox to DPR1/ or 2 should be on a plane and the hell out of here by now.

Be assured that nobody gave their doxx to DPR2. He learned lessons from DPR1's foolishness and was adamantly against ever sharing personal details.

This. DPR2 had told me personally that if he was ever captured, there's no way anyone or the site would be endangerd because his policeis regarding staff were different then his predecessor. The sad part is, Libertas/Inigo/SSBD and even DPR2 and the rest never thought DPR1 (or his laptop) would lead to more SR1 based arrests. But the fact of the matter is, DPR2's policy regarding staff did not involve them giving him their doxx.. and to be frank I honestly did not know his exact policy as I am and never was staff.. but he had told me that from a security and OPSEC standpoint, he was confident SR2 and the entire system would never be compromised as such.
This is not true. Also, a point in which I am speaking to defcon about interestingly enough...

I am not saying anything definitive, as of yet.

You have just contridicted yourself. Did you not say in your story these are just some cut out point:

2) A plan was put in place to have a few “Sleepers” in the crowd. This was a contingency plan in the event of DPR2 or SR2’s capture/seizure. The key element was to be a “sleeper”, it had to be someone that Ross/DPR1 never had any doxx on. The job of the sleeper mods were to integrate themselves into the community, maintain a good reputation and gain respect/trust, never buy/vend, and only “be activated” if shit hit the fan. The “sleeper admins” job was to run the servers. They’d regroup and immediately either re-construct SR, the forums or both.
3) A plan was put into play to spread disinformation on the forums for LE/haters/trolls/competition and other nay-sayers. Psy-ops.


This week you’ve seen a few “sleepers” get promoted as moderators. You’ve seen a sleeper admin take over entire control of the forums and site. This can’t be stressed enough, the sleepers (mods and admin(s)) have absolutely 0 connection to Ross Ulbricht. None. He had no information/doxx on them, and they’re absolutely removed from his reach. This team was formed while he was sitting behind bars. Unfortunately, the last remaining vestige of Ross (or his laptops) potential damage were Lib/Inigo/SSBD.
Cirrus and ChemCat have always been mods and therefore never had to hand over their doxx to anyone. Even DPR2 had no connection to Ross, and Ross would be unable to identify him as he was chosen later. DPR2 is smart however, and it’s very likely he’s halfway around the world by now. However, the first few days, everyone involved, had a responsibility to

A)Gauge the damage done by the recent wave of arrests
B)Make sure the “sleepers” and backup mechanism were activated properly and with precision
C)Play a round of psy-ops to protect DPR2 while he had enough time to wipe his slate clean
From this you seem to say that the admins saw the doxx being with ross as a problem before forming 2.0. Yet you say here that "The sad part is, Libertas/Inigo/SSBD and even DPR2 and the rest never thought DPR1 (or his laptop) would lead to more SR1 based arrests."

So they never thought and they also planned for it?
You are contridicting yourself
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The title has been changed as oracle's posts have now made it clear that there was no misinformation.
He has flat out lied, and spun a web of his own.

The question now is why. I am almost positive I know the reason. I just hope that he messages me.
Depending on who you are oracle, I might be saving your neck by giving you some information.
Please message me...
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« Last Edit: December 25, 2013, 12:38:31 am by YourHumbleServant »
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So they never thought and they also planned for it?
You are contridicting yourself

Management planned for many extreme scenarios which we never thought would actually happen.

I am confident that everyone in this thread has good intentions, and only wants to ensure the security and longevity of our movement, but we are very different in our approaches.

If you have information which could lead to someone's arrest - destroy it. If you believe some thread of evidence is buried deep in some archive, let it remain buried.

There is no reason to ever cause another person harm.

Another arrest will never make a community safer, and stirring up drama on Christmas Eve is not acting in our community's best interest.

Take a step back and look around: You're aggressively posting to a darknet forum on Christmas Eve.

Enjoy the holidays, take a break from your computer, and we'll talk after a few days of breathing.

Meow.
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So they never thought and they also planned for it?
You are contridicting yourself

Management planned for many extreme scenarios which we never thought would actually happen.

I am confident that everyone in this thread has good intentions, and only wants to ensure the security and longevity of our movement, but we are very different in our approaches.

If you have information which could lead to someone's arrest - destroy it. If you believe some thread of evidence is buried deep in some archive, let it remain buried.

There is no reason to ever cause another person harm.

Another arrest will never make a community safer, and stirring up drama on Christmas Eve is not acting in our community's best interest.

Take a step back and look around: You're aggressively posting to a darknet forum on Christmas Eve.

Enjoy the holidays, take a break from your computer, and we'll talk after a few days of breathing.

Meow.

lulz... new bob said meow :)
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So they never thought and they also planned for it?
You are contridicting yourself

Management planned for many extreme scenarios which we never thought would actually happen.

I am confident that everyone in this thread has good intentions, and only wants to ensure the security and longevity of our movement, but we are very different in our approaches.

If you have information which could lead to someone's arrest - destroy it. If you believe some thread of evidence is buried deep in some archive, let it remain buried.

There is no reason to ever cause another person harm.

Another arrest will never make a community safer, and stirring up drama on Christmas Eve is not acting in our community's best interest.

Take a step back and look around: You're aggressively posting to a darknet forum on Christmas Eve.

Enjoy the holidays, take a break from your computer, and we'll talk after a few days of breathing.

Meow.

Yep. Pretty much sums it up. You never think about your house burning down.. yet you do get homeworners insurance.. yes?

We are all on the same side here. It's us vs them. But the difference is we don't cannibalize our own. If you have information on anyone (doxx, theories, magical beans) destroy them, as you'd like your own destroyed if you were ever a target. The only way we will win this war is together, as a community.. not by flooding people's inboxes or posting threads that give LE an iota more then they have to work for.

As Defcon said, it's Christmas Eve, let's enjoy the holidays.
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So they never thought and they also planned for it?
You are contridicting yourself

Management planned for many extreme scenarios which we never thought would actually happen.

I am confident that everyone in this thread has good intentions, and only wants to ensure the security and longevity of our movement, but we are very different in our approaches.

If you have information which could lead to someone's arrest - destroy it. If you believe some thread of evidence is buried deep in some archive, let it remain buried.

There is no reason to ever cause another person harm.

Another arrest will never make a community safer, and stirring up drama on Christmas Eve is not acting in our community's best interest.

Take a step back and look around: You're aggressively posting to a darknet forum on Christmas Eve.

Enjoy the holidays, take a break from your computer, and we'll talk after a few days of breathing.

Meow.
So then nero is right about you being a kitten?
My only question is do you endorse what oracle has said.
It would seem that all of the admins and mods endorse him.

Oracle I dont ask that you respond, I ask that you read my message that I sent you unencrypted. It is maybe 4 lines.

I will say this is most likely my last post until you respond in a couple of days to my message defcon.

I realized something that should have been obvious to me, and I will tone it down for the moment.
This fact is quite a gamechanger for me and I would like to discuss it with you further.
I still need to speak with you before the market reopens so make sure to schedule me in.
I only have the best intentions at heart for the community. I think you know that.

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So they never thought and they also planned for it?
You are contridicting yourself

Management planned for many extreme scenarios which we never thought would actually happen.

I am confident that everyone in this thread has good intentions, and only wants to ensure the security and longevity of our movement, but we are very different in our approaches.

If you have information which could lead to someone's arrest - destroy it. If you believe some thread of evidence is buried deep in some archive, let it remain buried.

There is no reason to ever cause another person harm.

Another arrest will never make a community safer, and stirring up drama on Christmas Eve is not acting in our community's best interest.

Take a step back and look around: You're aggressively posting to a darknet forum on Christmas Eve.

Enjoy the holidays, take a break from your computer, and we'll talk after a few days of breathing.

Meow.
So then nero is right about you being a kitten?

Oracle I dont ask that you respond, I ask that you read my message that I sent you unencrypted. It is maybe 4 lines.


YourHumbleServant - I can confirm Decon is a kitten. This is not psy-ops, this is the unfortunate truth. He is a very nerdy kitten.

Sorry, I've been busy with family as it's Christmas... so I haven't been going through my inbox, I will at some point and get back to ya. No worries friend. Until then, you better have a drink and toast to SR! That's an order soldier  >:(

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After communicating with Defcon plenty and while I should not be posting anything that is communicated between staff, he has confirmed he is indeed a kitten. :)
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So they never thought and they also planned for it?
You are contridicting yourself

Management planned for many extreme scenarios which we never thought would actually happen.

I am confident that everyone in this thread has good intentions, and only wants to ensure the security and longevity of our movement, but we are very different in our approaches.

If you have information which could lead to someone's arrest - destroy it. If you believe some thread of evidence is buried deep in some archive, let it remain buried.

There is no reason to ever cause another person harm.

Another arrest will never make a community safer, and stirring up drama on Christmas Eve is not acting in our community's best interest.

Take a step back and look around: You're aggressively posting to a darknet forum on Christmas Eve.

Enjoy the holidays, take a break from your computer, and we'll talk after a few days of breathing.

Meow.
So then nero is right about you being a kitten?

Oracle I dont ask that you respond, I ask that you read my message that I sent you unencrypted. It is maybe 4 lines.


YourHumbleServant - I can confirm Decon is a kitten. This is not psy-ops, this is the unfortunate truth. He is a very nerdy kitten.

Sorry, I've been busy with family as it's Christmas... so I haven't been going through my inbox, I will at some point and get back to ya. No worries friend. Until then, you better have a drink and toast to SR! That's an order soldier  >:(

Alrighty.. got to hop offline or the wifey will murder me.
Done, I just got past the door man at the green camel night club.
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I don't give a damn if Defcon comes on here and swears on my grandmother's grave that he is in fact a small kitten with telekinetic powers. As long as it helps him stay a free man, then so be it. The same goes for everyone else as well. We don't NEED to know everything guys.

If you take anything away from my post, let it be these two things.

1) Sensitive information is not made public because it puts real people in real danger.
2) Defcon is a kitten.

+1 if I hadn't too recently.

For the record, if it does come to me having to put all the info out there, it only would effect one persons freedom, but in that situation would save many, many people.

"Having to"? Unless you're being compelled by some external force, there's no "having to" beyond wanting to.

Done, I just got past the door man at the green camel night club.

You managed to get past JohnTheBaptist?

Happy Christmas :)
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Re: Going to communicate with certain people, Happy holidays everyone!!
« Reply #47 on: December 25, 2013, 03:02:30 am »
You got us excited about the truth treasure hunt with the psyops games.

I understand now. Gotta stand down men.
No good may come out of this. Sorry

Stop digging!

Best Holidays to all

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Re: Going to communicate with certain people, Happy holidays everyone!!
« Reply #48 on: December 25, 2013, 03:13:36 am »
No good may come out of this. Sorry

I feel no less good has come out of this than was intended ;)
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So they never thought and they also planned for it?
You are contridicting yourself

Management planned for many extreme scenarios which we never thought would actually happen.

I am confident that everyone in this thread has good intentions, and only wants to ensure the security and longevity of our movement, but we are very different in our approaches.

If you have information which could lead to someone's arrest - destroy it. If you believe some thread of evidence is buried deep in some archive, let it remain buried.

There is no reason to ever cause another person harm.

Another arrest will never make a community safer, and stirring up drama on Christmas Eve is not acting in our community's best interest.

Take a step back and look around: You're aggressively posting to a darknet forum on Christmas Eve.

Enjoy the holidays, take a break from your computer, and we'll talk after a few days of breathing.

Meow.

I find it ridiculous this^^^ even needs to be said.

I would like to make it clear that if you don't know to keep your speculations off of the public forums and to encrypted PM's you should really be questioning what the fuck you are doing here in the first place. The gossipy bullshit is why most of you can't find street dealers. I personally wouldn't let most of you in my front door. I have been growing marijuana for twenty years and I couldn't handle this bullshit first hand. Shameful. I would also like to point out I don't care about negative karma I'm not here to make friends I'm here to conduct business. This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no foolin' around. Seriously I simply cannot believe the shit on these forums sometimes. Just shut up.

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Quote from: malycalypsejr
I'm not here to make friends I'm here to conduct business. This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no foolin' around. Seriously I simply cannot believe the shit on these forums sometimes. Just shut up.



This^^^^


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… I would also like to point out I don't care about negative karma I'm not here to make friends I'm here to conduct business. …

Too late. I already +1ed you ;)
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Re: Going to communicate with certain people, Happy holidays everyone!!
« Reply #52 on: December 27, 2013, 01:20:02 pm »
I had a good laugh at Oracles "inside information".

Astor and the other "high council" decided who the next DPR was.. bhahah. too funny.

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Also, In private message encrypted I can try and bring proof I am not full of shit.
I should still be able to get the messages between DPR2 and myself and hand them over as proof

They are encrypted as you will be able to see from him and I will give you my pgp private key and password to decrypt them.

We should all PGP each other this way...
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