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Cirrus..And Chemmy??
« on: December 24, 2013, 09:50:53 am »
Are they still around after the massive contradiction or have they received the same treatment as moi?
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Re: Cirrus..And Chemmy??
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2013, 09:55:16 am »
What is the massive contradiction?

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Re: Cirrus..And Chemmy??
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2013, 10:08:28 am »
If drugs traffickers thought the anonymous online black market calling itself Silk Road 2.0 would be any safer from law enforcement than the original, it looks like they had better think again.


The FBI has since confirmed to Forbes that it had moved against the encrypted marketplace, but it did not disclose the names of any of the people cuffed, or how many arrests had been made in all.

*You see they have made arrests they haven't disclosed as yet.

Do you see that...there are more arrests than you know about.
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Re: Cirrus..And Chemmy??
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2013, 10:11:37 am »
Cirrus posted the warnings about DPRs account being compromised because DPR instructed they do so in the case of his non-contact. Other than that, who knows where they may be.
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Re: Cirrus..And Chemmy??
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2013, 10:12:44 am »
I belive that there are more arressts then we know about.

but that dosnt mean tis not from SR1 as there is MUCH information for them to scavenge through. With all the information they got from the take down of SR1 the'll be arressting people for months maybe even years.
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Re: Cirrus..And Chemmy??
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2013, 10:12:56 am »
If drugs traffickers thought the anonymous online black market calling itself Silk Road 2.0 would be any safer from law enforcement than the original, it looks like they had better think again.


The FBI has since confirmed to Forbes that it had moved against the encrypted marketplace, but it did not disclose the names of any of the people cuffed, or how many arrests had been made in all.

*You see they have made arrests they haven't disclosed as yet.

Do you see that...there are more arrests than you know about.

Thank you, Raoul. It's good to see that there are people around here who are still willing to share information to help the community.

I sincerely and wholeheartedly hope Chemmy and Cirrus are safe, and that if they know they have broken OPSEC at any point by releasing identifying information, they are moving to a non-extradition country ASAP.
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Re: Cirrus..And Chemmy??
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2013, 10:13:21 am »
Let's hope if there are undisclosed arrests, they are still linked to SR 1.0.      I'm not sure if that is reassuring, but it's all I got.   :P

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Re: Cirrus..And Chemmy??
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2013, 10:28:13 am »
ANYONE who has given their dox to DPR1/ or 2 should be on a plane and the hell out of here by now.

Be assured that nobody gave their doxx to DPR2. He learned lessons from DPR1's foolishness and was adamantly against ever sharing personal details.
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Re: Cirrus..And Chemmy??
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2013, 10:28:29 am »
If drugs traffickers thought the anonymous online black market calling itself Silk Road 2.0 would be any safer from law enforcement than the original, it looks like they had better think again.


The FBI has since confirmed to Forbes that it had moved against the encrypted marketplace, but it did not disclose the names of any of the people cuffed, or how many arrests had been made in all.

*You see they have made arrests they haven't disclosed as yet.

Do you see that...there are more arrests than you know about.

Yeah this sudden appearance of Defcon and 2 new mods. Let's not forget that there's been undercovers working on the inside since the days of SR1.

The trick is this: Don't get heavily emotionally involved in any one marketplace remaining up for good. Transfer in only what you need to purchase and encrypt. Use a fake name and drop address when ordering, never your own. Don't use vendors you don't trust and can't PGP verify to the days before SR2.

It's the only way to stay fairly safe enough so you can sleep at night.

ANYONE who has given their dox to DPR1/ or 2 should be on a plane and the hell out of here by now.

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Re: Cirrus..And Chemmy??
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2013, 10:42:08 am »

Use a fake name and drop address when ordering, never your own. Don't use vendors you don't trust and can't PGP verify to the days before SR2.


Drop address like a PO box?
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Re: Cirrus..And Chemmy??
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2013, 10:47:49 am »


A drop that isn't tied to your real identity. So sure, a PO box if you rented it using a scan of a fake id. The user Perfectscans would be able to help with that if anyone needs to get on the case. It's never too late to start being safe.

From now on, I will never reveal my real address. PO box it is. Hope fakeScans can hook me up with something. And I thought encryption was enough but who knows what a vendor does with your tracking slip/addy. Thanks a TON.

Merry Christmas everybody :)

PS: What happened to Raoul's green bars/credentials? Is it coz he doxxed Coachella?
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Re: Cirrus..And Chemmy??
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2013, 10:49:59 am »
It says clear as day there that SR2 is not safe. May I remind you that 3 SR2 admins are under arrest plus more that we don't know about yet.

But that's coz they were doxxed by DPR1. New admins weren't doxxed by DPR2 who has already vanished. I'm optimistic.

PS: I will keep crying coz I can't access my stimulants ever since SR2 came back from the DDos attacks :(( Hope this gets fixed eventually..
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Re: Cirrus..And Chemmy??
« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2013, 11:04:11 am »
I don't trust it.  Psy-ops?  How do we not know that this whole charade isn't psy-ops?  Oracle?  Who the heck is this cat?  Defcon out of the blue... Site acting funny, random people messaging me inquiring........be very cautious here people.  Something just ain't right.

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Re: Cirrus..And Chemmy??
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2013, 11:40:48 am »
To get a PO box you will need a physical fake ID+ Secondary. The only exception to this rule is mail forwarding drops but they provide you little security when shtf. Talk to Teddanzig or me.




A drop that isn't tied to your real identity. So sure, a PO box if you rented it using a scan of a fake id. The user Perfectscans would be able to help with that if anyone needs to get on the case. It's never too late to start being safe.

From now on, I will never reveal my real address. PO box it is. Hope fakeScans can hook me up with something. And I thought encryption was enough but who knows what a vendor does with your tracking slip/addy. Thanks a TON.

Merry Christmas everybody :)

PS: What happened to Raoul's green bars/credentials? Is it coz he doxxed Coachella?

It's definitely best to be safe here's Perfectscans thread

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Re: Cirrus..And Chemmy??
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2013, 01:45:15 pm »
If drugs traffickers thought the anonymous online black market calling itself Silk Road 2.0 would be any safer from law enforcement than the original, it looks like they had better think again.


The FBI has since confirmed to Forbes that it had moved against the encrypted marketplace, but it did not disclose the names of any of the people cuffed, or how many arrests had been made in all.

*You see they have made arrests they haven't disclosed as yet.

Do you see that...there are more arrests than you know about.

any evidence or just spouting?

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Re: Cirrus..And Chemmy??
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2013, 03:57:34 pm »
Are they still around after the massive contradiction or have they received the same treatment as moi?

Are you Raoul Duke, former green bars? Your demise was swift, what happened old friend?
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Re: Cirrus..And Chemmy??
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2013, 04:01:16 pm »
He doxxed coachella on the forums as well as published private information from DPR from a protected area of the forums.
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Re: Cirrus..And Chemmy??
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2013, 04:02:11 pm »
Are they still around after the massive contradiction or have they received the same treatment as moi?

Are you Raoul Duke, former green bars? Your demise was swift, what happened old friend?
This is not RD. This is some Fake who has tried to bash RD's name
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Re: Cirrus..And Chemmy??
« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2013, 04:12:01 pm »
Are they still around after the massive contradiction or have they received the same treatment as moi?

Are you Raoul Duke, former green bars? Your demise was swift, what happened old friend?
This is not RD. This is some Fake who has tried to bash RD's name

But something has happened. Is he Dr Gonzo now?
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« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2013, 04:14:17 pm »
I dont understand what you are saying.

RD deleted his account and left simple as that
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Re: Cirrus..And Chemmy??
« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2013, 04:15:21 pm »
Are they still around after the massive contradiction or have they received the same treatment as moi?

Are you Raoul Duke, former green bars? Your demise was swift, what happened old friend?
This is not RD. This is some Fake who has tried to bash RD's name
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But something has happened. Is he Dr Gonzo now?

See my post above. He was banned for doxxing another forum member as well as violating site policy. He was also kind of an asshole so that didn't help. Yes, I believe he is Gonzo now.
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Re: Cirrus..And Chemmy??
« Reply #21 on: December 24, 2013, 04:17:38 pm »
I dont understand what you are saying.

RD deleted his account and left simple as that

I believe he is Dr Gonzo now
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« Reply #22 on: December 24, 2013, 04:18:24 pm »
I dont understand what you are saying.

RD deleted his account and left simple as that

False. There is a thread around here where RD even came in complaining about being banned.  A dox is a dox, even if its coachella
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« Reply #23 on: December 24, 2013, 04:19:58 pm »
I dont understand what you are saying.

RD deleted his account and left simple as that

False. There is a thread around here where RD even came in complaining about being banned.  A dox is a dox, even if its coachella
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« Reply #24 on: December 24, 2013, 04:21:18 pm »
Doxxing is out of order so he deserved it. Shame i liked him
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« Reply #25 on: December 24, 2013, 05:37:15 pm »
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Re: Cirrus..And Chemmy??
« Reply #26 on: December 24, 2013, 05:38:37 pm »
Im not a mod, wish i was, but im always active, :)  merry christmas Cirrus
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« Reply #27 on: December 24, 2013, 05:41:57 pm »
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Re: Cirrus..And Chemmy??
« Reply #28 on: December 24, 2013, 06:33:29 pm »
+1 for that.....:)


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« Reply #29 on: December 24, 2013, 06:46:50 pm »
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Re: Cirrus..And Chemmy??
« Reply #30 on: December 24, 2013, 06:49:10 pm »
Cirrus and Chemmy, would you say that either of you are worried more than usually about being put into custody right now?
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« Reply #31 on: December 24, 2013, 06:50:14 pm »
Good to see you all around Cirrus and Chemcat.

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« Reply #32 on: December 24, 2013, 08:05:50 pm »
Cirrus and Chemmy, would you say that either of you are worried more than usually about being put into custody right now?

I've had ample opportunities to about-face and leave but I have chosen to stick around.  After each arrest I made the conscious decision to remain here to continue helping others.  I feel comfortable enough with the actions I've taken to protect myself along way that I'd think if they were able to identify me by now they would have. 

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« Reply #33 on: December 24, 2013, 08:24:41 pm »
Cirrus and Chemmy, would you say that either of you are worried more than usually about being put into custody right now?

I've had ample opportunities to about-face and leave but I have chosen to stick around.  After each arrest I made the conscious decision to remain here to continue helping others.  I feel comfortable enough with the actions I've taken to protect myself along way that I'd think if they were able to identify me by now they would have.

Thank you. I am wishing you and other kindred the best.

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« Reply #34 on: December 24, 2013, 08:47:05 pm »
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Re: Cirrus..And Chemmy??
« Reply #35 on: December 24, 2013, 09:31:52 pm »
it never ceases to amaze me that the admins gave DPR1 a real dox/ any dox at all. im guessing it was because back then OPSEC was not treated as it is today. however i am glad to hear that the new captains of ship are 100% unknown to ross and hopefully the others. the future looks bright. viva SR.

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« Reply #36 on: December 24, 2013, 10:59:49 pm »
Cirrus and Chemmy, would you say that either of you are worried more than usually about being put into custody right now?

I've had ample opportunities to about-face and leave but I have chosen to stick around.  After each arrest I made the conscious decision to remain here to continue helping others.  I feel comfortable enough with the actions I've taken to protect myself along way that I'd think if they were able to identify me by now they would have.

That's good to hear! :-)
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« Reply #37 on: December 24, 2013, 11:35:07 pm »
Cirrus and Chemmy, would you say that either of you are worried more than usually about being put into custody right now?

I've had ample opportunities to about-face and leave but I have chosen to stick around.  After each arrest I made the conscious decision to remain here to continue helping others.  I feel comfortable enough with the actions I've taken to protect myself along way that I'd think if they were able to identify me by now they would have.

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« Reply #38 on: December 24, 2013, 11:44:44 pm »
ANYONE who has given their dox to DPR1/ or 2 should be on a plane and the hell out of here by now.

Be assured that nobody gave their doxx to DPR2. He learned lessons from DPR1's foolishness and was adamantly against ever sharing personal details.

This. DPR2 had told me personally that if he was ever captured, there's no way anyone or the site would be endangerd because his policeis regarding staff were different then his predecessor. The sad part is, Libertas/Inigo/SSBD and even DPR2 and the rest never thought DPR1 (or his laptop) would lead to more SR1 based arrests. But the fact of the matter is, DPR2's policy regarding staff did not involve them giving him their doxx.. and to be frank I honestly did not know his exact policy as I am and never was staff.. but he had told me that from a security and OPSEC standpoint, he was confident SR2 and the entire system would never be compromised as such.
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« Reply #39 on: December 24, 2013, 11:58:38 pm »
ANYONE who has given their dox to DPR1/ or 2 should be on a plane and the hell out of here by now.

Be assured that nobody gave their doxx to DPR2. He learned lessons from DPR1's foolishness and was adamantly against ever sharing personal details.

This. DPR2 had told me personally that if he was ever captured, there's no way anyone or the site would be endangerd because his policeis regarding staff were different then his predecessor. The sad part is, Libertas/Inigo/SSBD and even DPR2 and the rest never thought DPR1 (or his laptop) would lead to more SR1 based arrests. But the fact of the matter is, DPR2's policy regarding staff did not involve them giving him their doxx.. and to be frank I honestly did not know his exact policy as I am and never was staff.. but he had told me that from a security and OPSEC standpoint, he was confident SR2 and the entire system would never be compromised as such.
This is not true. Also, a point in which I am speaking to defcon about interestingly enough...

I am not saying anything definitive, as of yet.

You have just contridicted yourself. Did you not say in your story these are just some cut out point:

2) A plan was put in place to have a few “Sleepers” in the crowd. This was a contingency plan in the event of DPR2 or SR2’s capture/seizure. The key element was to be a “sleeper”, it had to be someone that Ross/DPR1 never had any doxx on. The job of the sleeper mods were to integrate themselves into the community, maintain a good reputation and gain respect/trust, never buy/vend, and only “be activated” if shit hit the fan. The “sleeper admins” job was to run the servers. They’d regroup and immediately either re-construct SR, the forums or both.
3) A plan was put into play to spread disinformation on the forums for LE/haters/trolls/competition and other nay-sayers. Psy-ops.


This week you’ve seen a few “sleepers” get promoted as moderators. You’ve seen a sleeper admin take over entire control of the forums and site. This can’t be stressed enough, the sleepers (mods and admin(s)) have absolutely 0 connection to Ross Ulbricht. None. He had no information/doxx on them, and they’re absolutely removed from his reach. This team was formed while he was sitting behind bars. Unfortunately, the last remaining vestige of Ross (or his laptops) potential damage were Lib/Inigo/SSBD.
Cirrus and ChemCat have always been mods and therefore never had to hand over their doxx to anyone. Even DPR2 had no connection to Ross, and Ross would be unable to identify him as he was chosen later. DPR2 is smart however, and it’s very likely he’s halfway around the world by now. However, the first few days, everyone involved, had a responsibility to

A)Gauge the damage done by the recent wave of arrests
B)Make sure the “sleepers” and backup mechanism were activated properly and with precision
C)Play a round of psy-ops to protect DPR2 while he had enough time to wipe his slate clean
From this you seem to say that the admins saw the doxx being with ross as a problem before forming 2.0. Yet you say here that "The sad part is, Libertas/Inigo/SSBD and even DPR2 and the rest never thought DPR1 (or his laptop) would lead to more SR1 based arrests."

So they never thought and they also planned for it?
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