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« on: December 22, 2013, 10:37:15 pm »
Silk Road Community -

It has now been over 24 hours since we last heard from our Captain. He is most certainly in grave danger.

As posted by Cirrus: Do not trust DPR2's PGP keys. Do not trust any communication claiming to be from DPR2.

As his second in command, I have very clear instructions as to what to do in this worst case scenario.

He appointed a successor before he began. You know who you are, and you know what to do. Consider this the signal.

I cannot elaborate on the specifics, but the marketplace is safe and in my hands until the Captain returns or his successor appears.

Given these shocking events, I am delaying Christmas Break for another 12 hours so that you may withdraw your coins if you so desire.

Make no mistake - Silk Road is not dead, the marketplace is not compromised, and it will return after the break regardless of how this plays out.

If you haven't seen it - Here is his last message to staff, and second-to-last message to me:

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Right now it is still chaotic at best so I am not sure yet how to best respond long term. As a short term bit of caution both Libertas and Inigo are to be treated as hostile and all communications you receive from them must be forwarded to me immediately.

The weighting of Inigo being busted is that in my opinion many things do not yet add up but I believe the reports may be correct. Until the time I know any different or more evidence comes to light remember to think back and if there is anything that may further compromise anyone he may have had access to let me know.

Libertas's case is not supported by much other than rumors. As such it is unlikely this applies to him and it may be a case of bad luck he hasn't logged on for some hours but continue to also treat him as hostile.

Right now I myself have no reason to be offline for any period greater than 24 hours, especially now I am aware of the events above. If such time elapses (24 hours) where I do not appear online consider both myself everything associated with me compromised, even PGP signed messages should be treated with extreme caution. I will be wiping all my communications with all of you and so that may be used as a proof if you wish to verify me in the event something happens by using information only I would know.

This is going to be a testing time for us all and I do not know where it will take us, but everyone please be safe and godspeed.
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« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2013, 10:39:35 pm »
Thank you for the update.
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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2013, 10:39:55 pm »
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« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2013, 10:39:56 pm »
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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2013, 10:41:23 pm »
Thank you for the much needed update. Godspeed Defcon.

This ship will not sink. LE can place as many roadblocks as they want, we will continue to circumvent them.
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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2013, 10:41:51 pm »
"you can't stop an idea....."
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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2013, 10:42:09 pm »
we will be watching

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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2013, 10:43:07 pm »
How will we know who the successor is when they emerge? If we are to disregard  DPR2's messages will they be on a new account or what? Thanks for the update though, much appreciated :D
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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2013, 10:45:02 pm »
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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2013, 10:45:55 pm »
Have a good holiday Defcon, I look forward to the re-opening, take care staff and be safe *hugs* to all
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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2013, 10:46:41 pm »
Good luck to the successor.  Hopefully he doesn't make the same mistake as the previous leaders.
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« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2013, 10:47:38 pm »
This shit is bananas. 2014 is going to be one crazy year.

A big fuck you goes out to the NSA peons who comb over this forum.

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« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2013, 10:49:29 pm »
Long Live the King.

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« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2013, 10:50:28 pm »
I think I'll have a drink too that!
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« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2013, 10:52:04 pm »
Oh FFS! PEOPLE - OPEN YOUR EYES.

Sad, really sad. Nobody can possibly be THAT stupid to not see what's going on here. And here we go again, ONCE AGAIN, putting our own greed above the interests of the entire community.
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« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2013, 10:52:13 pm »
What the fuck are happening!?

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« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2013, 10:52:21 pm »
Thank you for the news defcon. Long live SR.
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« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2013, 10:52:33 pm »
Thank you for the much needed update. Godspeed Defcon.

This ship will not sink. LE can place as many roadblocks as they want, we will continue to circumvent them.

this^^^

Wow!

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« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2013, 10:52:45 pm »
;)
You Don't know PGP?         :o
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Sink your teeth into it and Learn  ;)

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« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2013, 10:53:36 pm »
If DPR's PGP is considered comprimised, then the only way to verify that the new DPR is legit is if DEFCON verifies it for us, correct? 
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« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2013, 10:53:49 pm »
Oh FFS! PEOPLE - OPEN YOUR EYES.

Sad, really sad. Nobody can possibly be THAT stupid to not see what's going on here. And here we go again, ONCE AGAIN, putting our own greed above the interests of the entire community.

Can you please elaborate more for us simpler folk?
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« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2013, 10:54:52 pm »


If you haven't seen it - Here is his last message to staff, and second-to-last message to me:

such mystery..."second-to-last"...that will keep em going for awhile.
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« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2013, 10:55:07 pm »
You took your time but we are glad to see you and have a feeling that SR2 will have an illustrious and prosperous future.

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« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2013, 10:55:22 pm »
I want to believe you but......

1. How can we trust you ??
2. How do we trust the new DPR.

Sounds like I'm lost :(

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« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2013, 10:57:29 pm »
Sounds only safe way.Will someone step up and make this free market the place of freedom once more fucking feds

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« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2013, 10:58:54 pm »
Oh FFS! PEOPLE - OPEN YOUR EYES.

Sad, really sad. Nobody can possibly be THAT stupid to not see what's going on here. And here we go again, ONCE AGAIN, putting our own greed above the interests of the entire community.
What you said makes absolutely no sense. The world is driven by greed.  Greed is the backbone of finance.
Absolutely everything comes down to how it benefits the individual in business.

Everyone here is accountable for their own security. Relying on SR is absolutely ridiculous.  The mods who kept going after knowing their dox was known by ANYONE did so at their own risk.   
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« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2013, 10:59:25 pm »
Oh FFS! PEOPLE - OPEN YOUR EYES.

Sad, really sad. Nobody can possibly be THAT stupid to not see what's going on here. And here we go again, ONCE AGAIN, putting our own greed above the interests of the entire community.

Can you please elaborate more for us simpler folk?

As I mentioend here: http://silkroad5v7dywlc/index.php?topic=10689.300;topicseen

I think you all need to realze that DPR2's vanishing act, and now Defcon's emergence annointing the "chosen successor" to rise from the ashes... I mean.. Ok.. I think the people who can do the simple math understand it for what it is.. but it's just not a smart idea. Again, I'll say it AGAIN like I said in October.. this is NOT a smart idea.. please DO NOT do this, and please THINK this through.
The irony folks, the RICHEST irony in this, is the title of this cleanet article : http://weirderweb.com/2013/06/10/ambition-has-no-rest-the-long-education-of-a-silk-road-money-launderer/

"Ambition has no rest". Oh the irony, oh the fucking irony.

I appeal to Defcon/DPR 3 (seriously)/DPR2/DPR4 to PLEASE PLEASE, PRETTY FUCKING PLEASE think what you're doing THROUGH.

I appeal to YOU CIRRUS, to THINK this through. You've always been smart and honest, how can you be apart of this farce?
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« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2013, 11:00:29 pm »
Oh FFS! PEOPLE - OPEN YOUR EYES.

Sad, really sad. Nobody can possibly be THAT stupid to not see what's going on here. And here we go again, ONCE AGAIN, putting our own greed above the interests of the entire community.

Hang on hang on...you really aren't giving some of these people enough credit. They really could be that stupid. Have you not seen some of the posts recently?
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« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2013, 11:01:17 pm »
Silk Road: The biggest fucking soap opera the internetz has ever seen.

I second this nomination!!
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« Reply #29 on: December 22, 2013, 11:02:24 pm »
So question is...how do you go about LOCKING DPR OUT?   He has access to everything...

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« Reply #30 on: December 22, 2013, 11:02:37 pm »
If DPR3 cannot be personally identified by any of those already compromised then I do not see what the problem is.
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« Reply #31 on: December 22, 2013, 11:04:09 pm »
So question is...how do you go about LOCKING DPR OUT?   He has access to everything...

Servers will have to be moved, administrative privileges reshuffled, it is completely possible to clean that slate.

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« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2013, 11:04:26 pm »
Ok so everyone who is locked up knows the dox of DPR2, oviously this successor is the next coming of jesus. I hate to say it but fucking for christ sake people, whens enough enough? I personally wont have cuffs around my wrists, Im out.

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« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2013, 11:04:47 pm »
I am one of the people who wants their drugs, and i give people money for them

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« Reply #34 on: December 22, 2013, 11:05:06 pm »
Oh FFS! PEOPLE - OPEN YOUR EYES.

Sad, really sad. Nobody can possibly be THAT stupid to not see what's going on here. And here we go again, ONCE AGAIN, putting our own greed above the interests of the entire community.

Can you please elaborate more for us simpler folk?

As I mentioend here: http://silkroad5v7dywlc/index.php?topic=10689.300;topicseen

I think you all need to realze that DPR2's vanishing act, and now Defcon's emergence annointing the "chosen successor" to rise from the ashes... I mean.. Ok.. I think the people who can do the simple math understand it for what it is.. but it's just not a smart idea. Again, I'll say it AGAIN like I said in October.. this is NOT a smart idea.. please DO NOT do this, and please THINK this through.
The irony folks, the RICHEST irony in this, is the title of this cleanet article : http://weirderweb.com/2013/06/10/ambition-has-no-rest-the-long-education-of-a-silk-road-money-launderer/

"Ambition has no rest". Oh the irony, oh the fucking irony.

I appeal to Defcon/DPR 3 (seriously)/DPR2/DPR4 to PLEASE PLEASE, PRETTY FUCKING PLEASE think what you're doing THROUGH.

I appeal to YOU CIRRUS, to THINK this through. You've always been smart and honest, how can you be apart of this farce?

look, all due respect, i see your point, but you're not going to talk people out of wanting drugs.. either give us a link to a "safe black market" site or deal with the fact that all black markets have ups and downs.. also either use the site, or dont, thats your choice.. call me stupid, idc. im taking security measures for myself. if other people get caught its on them.
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« Reply #35 on: December 22, 2013, 11:05:26 pm »
CONSITANCY please i want the good old days to come back.Some computer geek rise up and lead us to another era please i dont want to go back to school. millions can be earned. I WISH I KNEW HOW,GOD I WISH I KNEW HOW

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« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2013, 11:05:42 pm »
Wow. Im "fucking boring" huh? You understand that when this ship sinks, it's not me who's going to pay the price. I tried my level best in October to appeal to Mr. DPR2 and Cirrus (the latter whom I trust) to think this thing through.
And yet here we go again, round 3, with vanishing act, defcon apointing an annointed one.. all takes us back to square one. That Ross and now the 3 poor souls who just got fucked all will know who is behind..oh fuck it, what's the point?
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« Reply #37 on: December 22, 2013, 11:08:17 pm »
Thank you for the update Defcon. It was starting to get a bit tense - impeccable timing as ever.

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« Reply #38 on: December 22, 2013, 11:08:27 pm »
Wow. Im "fucking boring" huh? You understand that when this ship sinks, it's not me who's going to pay the price. I tried my level best in October to appeal to Mr. DPR2 and Cirrus (the latter whom I trust) to think this thing through.
And yet here we go again, round 3, with vanishing act, defcon apointing an annointed one.. all takes us back to square one. That Ross and now the 3 poor souls who just got fucked all will know who is behind..oh fuck it, what's the point?
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« Reply #39 on: December 22, 2013, 11:08:52 pm »
Oh FFS! PEOPLE - OPEN YOUR EYES.

Sad, really sad. Nobody can possibly be THAT stupid to not see what's going on here. And here we go again, ONCE AGAIN, putting our own greed above the interests of the entire community.

I think the DPR moniker should be changed to Jesus Christ.

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« Reply #40 on: December 22, 2013, 11:09:19 pm »
Oh FFS! PEOPLE - OPEN YOUR EYES.

Sad, really sad. Nobody can possibly be THAT stupid to not see what's going on here. And here we go again, ONCE AGAIN, putting our own greed above the interests of the entire community.

Can you please elaborate more for us simpler folk?

As I mentioend here: http://silkroad5v7dywlc/index.php?topic=10689.300;topicseen

I think you all need to realze that DPR2's vanishing act, and now Defcon's emergence annointing the "chosen successor" to rise from the ashes... I mean.. Ok.. I think the people who can do the simple math understand it for what it is.. but it's just not a smart idea. Again, I'll say it AGAIN like I said in October.. this is NOT a smart idea.. please DO NOT do this, and please THINK this through.
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"Ambition has no rest". Oh the irony, oh the fucking irony.

I appeal to Defcon/DPR 3 (seriously)/DPR2/DPR4 to PLEASE PLEASE, PRETTY FUCKING PLEASE think what you're doing THROUGH.

I appeal to YOU CIRRUS, to THINK this through. You've always been smart and honest, how can you be apart of this farce?

look, all due respect, i see your point, but you're not going to talk people out of wanting drugs.. either give us a link to a "safe black market" site or deal with the fact that all black markets have ups and downs.. also either use the site, or dont, thats your choice.. call me stupid, idc. im taking security measures for myself. if other people get caught its on them.

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« Reply #41 on: December 22, 2013, 11:10:23 pm »
FWIW, DPR was planning the exit from the moment the arrests happened.

Astonishingly, he took the time to PM me that he wouldn't be around to help on the book any more and to strap in for a "very rough ride"
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« Reply #42 on: December 22, 2013, 11:11:16 pm »
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I appeal to Defcon/DPR 3 (seriously)/DPR2/DPR4 to PLEASE PLEASE, PRETTY FUCKING PLEASE think what you're doing THROUGH.

Soooooo Defcon=DPR2=New Successor......hmmmm such drama
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« Reply #43 on: December 22, 2013, 11:13:09 pm »
I think I see what's going here...
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« Reply #44 on: December 22, 2013, 11:13:13 pm »
FWIW, DPR was planning the exit from the moment the arrests happened.

Astonishingly, he took the time to PM me that he wouldn't be around to help on the book any more and to strap in for a "very rough ride"

Elaborate....please
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« Reply #45 on: December 22, 2013, 11:13:30 pm »
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« Reply #46 on: December 22, 2013, 11:13:49 pm »
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« Reply #47 on: December 22, 2013, 11:16:13 pm »
FWIW, DPR was planning the exit from the moment the arrests happened.

Astonishingly, he took the time to PM me that he wouldn't be around to help on the book any more and to strap in for a "very rough ride"

yup. thank you eiley.

but this whole defcon appointing a new successor. like I said. "Ambition has no rest" (google it).
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« Reply #48 on: December 22, 2013, 11:16:56 pm »
From what I understand the architecture of the site hasn't failed and the problems are due to human error.  If that be the case, then if a new successor takes command, as long as they are not personally identifiable by the those in custody, then things should be alright.  Can someone explain the problem with this?
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« Reply #49 on: December 22, 2013, 11:17:40 pm »
FWIW, DPR was planning the exit from the moment the arrests happened.

Astonishingly, he took the time to PM me that he wouldn't be around to help on the book any more and to strap in for a "very rough ride"

not really surprising, you're the most out there rl and reputable person floating around here.  It also means that you're warned in case of any unusual contact and of course it backs up the story that he's done a runner, so you can quiet any hysteria if the tinfoil hat brigade thought he'd been arrested.

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« Reply #50 on: December 22, 2013, 11:18:27 pm »
yup, as I've said before, this place is FUCKED. FUCKEDDDDDDDDDDD

DPR, why man? why? why would you let this happen??????????????????? why?????????

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« Reply #51 on: December 22, 2013, 11:19:09 pm »
I am 100% positive if I was inevitably, undeniably heading for the edge of a cliff three quarters of you would fall with me. Oh my name is DPR now btw.

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« Reply #52 on: December 22, 2013, 11:19:38 pm »
From what I understand the architecture of the site hasn't failed and the problems are due to human error.  If that be the case, then if a new successor takes command, as long as they are not personally identifiable by the those in custody, then things should be alright.  Can someone explain the problem with this?

this is my personal conflict as well
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« Reply #53 on: December 22, 2013, 11:20:02 pm »
FWIW, DPR was planning the exit from the moment the arrests happened.

Astonishingly, he took the time to PM me that he wouldn't be around to help on the book any more and to strap in for a "very rough ride"

yup. thank you eiley.

but this whole defcon appointing a new successor. like I said. "Ambition has no rest" (google it).

So you're saying this new "successor" is compromised from the start? If that's true, then what, we all just abandon ship? What is your answer to fix this clusterfuck?
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« Reply #54 on: December 22, 2013, 11:21:21 pm »
Thats fine let LE run it, at least we would not have to worry about being DDOS'd,  encrypt everything, you only really have to trust your vendor.

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« Reply #55 on: December 22, 2013, 11:22:17 pm »
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« Reply #56 on: December 22, 2013, 11:23:21 pm »
The new successor is obviously the same person as the person annointing the new successor, as well as the previous "successor".. who himself is NOT a compromised individual.. but who himself is on thin ice and is vulnerable because of ross/lib/inigo/ssbd.

How am I the only one not blind to whats going on?
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« Reply #57 on: December 22, 2013, 11:24:21 pm »
thanks you for the update.

Best wish and all the love in the world DPR2 i hope you are safe.

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« Reply #58 on: December 22, 2013, 11:24:31 pm »

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Who is defcon?how does he have the ability to shut down the market?

surely he knows a lot more than he wants to tell if he controls the marketplace

something is not right here

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« Reply #59 on: December 22, 2013, 11:25:33 pm »
The new successor is obviously the same person as the person annointing the new successor, as well as the previous "successor".. who himself is NOT a compromised individual.. but who himself is on thin ice and is vulnerable because of ross/lib/inigo/ssbd.

How am I the only one not blind to whats going on?
Because trying to point fingers and trying to find out who is who isn't that great of an idea.
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« Reply #60 on: December 22, 2013, 11:25:40 pm »
Well that
The new successor is obviously the same person as the person annointing the new successor, as well as the previous "successor".. who himself is NOT a compromised individual.. but who himself is on thin ice and is vulnerable because of ross/lib/inigo/ssbd.

How am I the only one not blind to whats going on?

Well if that is the case (it would make little sense as you said to clean house, only to reappoint yourself and dirty everything up again whilst knowing the feds are on their way to arrest you) then that is a stupid idea.  But how can you be sure that DEFCON is DPR2?
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« Reply #61 on: December 22, 2013, 11:26:02 pm »
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« Reply #62 on: December 22, 2013, 11:27:10 pm »
The new successor is obviously the same person as the person annointing the new successor, as well as the previous "successor".. who himself is NOT a compromised individual.. but who himself is on thin ice and is vulnerable because of ross/lib/inigo/ssbd.

How am I the only one not blind to whats going on?

look im in the midst of a personal conflict with this too.. but i cant help but feeling that at some point these theories are just projections of what you want to happen
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« Reply #63 on: December 22, 2013, 11:27:31 pm »
I can confirm that DPR mentioned this contingency plan on several occasions as well as who is to be his successor now that the signal has been sent.

Hopefully, DPR is simply safe and moving to avoid capture. Stay safe.
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« Reply #64 on: December 22, 2013, 11:28:15 pm »


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Who is defcon?how does he have the ability to shut down the market?

surely he knows a lot more than he wants to tell if he controls the marketplace

something is not right here

Because he is DPR2?
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« Reply #65 on: December 22, 2013, 11:29:18 pm »
I can confirm that DPR mentioned this contingency plan on several occasions as well as who is to be his successor now that the signal has been sent.

Hopefully, DPR is simply safe and moving to avoid capture. Stay safe.

If this is the case then everything should be fine.  The only difference is that Chem cat will have a couple new mod buddies :X
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« Reply #66 on: December 22, 2013, 11:30:05 pm »
I can confirm that DPR mentioned this contingency plan on several occasions as well as who is to be his successor now that the signal has been sent.

Hopefully, DPR is simply safe and moving to avoid capture. Stay safe.

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« Reply #67 on: December 22, 2013, 11:31:38 pm »
I can confirm that DPR mentioned this contingency plan on several occasions as well as who is to be his successor now that the signal has been sent.

Hopefully, DPR is simply safe and moving to avoid capture. Stay safe.

So you can identify his successor?

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« Reply #68 on: December 22, 2013, 11:32:06 pm »
I was just geting settled in here god dammit. I hope everything comes back and runs smoothly.

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« Reply #69 on: December 22, 2013, 11:32:48 pm »
Its great to finally get some communication here.
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« Reply #70 on: December 22, 2013, 11:34:46 pm »


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Who is defcon?how does he have the ability to shut down the market?

surely he knows a lot more than he wants to tell if he controls the marketplace

something is not right here

Because he is DPR2?

Do I have really to point out the obvious? If Defcon were DPR why the fuck would he post as Defcon telling us to assume DPR has been compromised?
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« Reply #71 on: December 22, 2013, 11:35:39 pm »
I was just geting settled in here god dammit. I hope everything comes back and runs smoothly.

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« Reply #72 on: December 22, 2013, 11:36:18 pm »


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Who is defcon?how does he have the ability to shut down the market?

surely he knows a lot more than he wants to tell if he controls the marketplace

something is not right here

Because he is DPR2?

Do I have really to point out the obvious? If Defcon were DPR why the fuck would he post as Defcon telling us to assume DPR has been compromised?

You are really missing the point. Have you never been involved in a conspiracy before? How else would you start over?
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« Reply #73 on: December 22, 2013, 11:37:29 pm »
Libertas and them possibly had the password and such to get into the DPR forum account, which is why it would be compromised, so DPR is using Defcon to communicate and after getting the place fully up and running and with everything that took place, he's handing the torch over and going to disappear.  Just a theory.

I could very well be wrong too.  So take what I say with a grain of salt.

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« Reply #74 on: December 22, 2013, 11:40:23 pm »
Hey, the feds have no idea who is the new leader of the site, so let's just give them a bunch of ideas!
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« Reply #75 on: December 22, 2013, 11:40:31 pm »
Why does Defcon not have a PGP Signature?

I believe ChemCat to be the successor.

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« Reply #76 on: December 22, 2013, 11:41:18 pm »
Hey, the feds have no idea who is the new leader of the site, so let's just give them a bunch of ideas!

obama! this conspiracy goes all the way to the top!
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« Reply #77 on: December 22, 2013, 11:41:38 pm »
Just put yourself in his shoes. You know you are going to be doxxed at some point. You create another "admin" that hardly makes an appearance that you control and then prepare a plan to "disapear" when all hell breaks loose and then you can take over the other account and pretend to be the new successor. How would anyone know the difference? As long as "Defcon" was kept private to only DPR2's control then he could continue running the market under this new account. Even LE would have a hard time proving that. Its really an ingenious plan when you think it through.
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« Reply #78 on: December 22, 2013, 11:43:02 pm »
Oh FFS! PEOPLE - OPEN YOUR EYES.

Sad, really sad. Nobody can possibly be THAT stupid to not see what's going on here. And here we go again, ONCE AGAIN, putting our own greed above the interests of the entire community.

I think the DPR moniker should be changed to Jesus Christ.

I agree, but He's got to be pictured sitting on a giant Saltine cracker.

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« Reply #79 on: December 22, 2013, 11:45:27 pm »
Why does nobody else find DoctorClu extremely suspicious? Everything he says makes him sound like he lives next door to DPR. Maybe its just me.
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« Reply #80 on: December 22, 2013, 11:46:00 pm »
With the arrest of the top 3 guys...and DPR rapping on the door momentarily...looks like Silk Roads most famous money launderer is about to become Interpols target number 1
You didn't didn't doxx fuck all unless your definition of doxxing is posting completely random unrelated information. Continuously repeating that you doxxed me just makes you look even more retarded every time. You are a mental case in need of professional help. - ssbd

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« Reply #81 on: December 22, 2013, 11:46:15 pm »
So I'm DPR now?

Fuck.

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« Reply #82 on: December 22, 2013, 11:48:45 pm »
Just put yourself in his shoes. You know you are going to be doxxed at some point. You create another "admin" that hardly makes an appearance that you control and then prepare a plan to "disapear" when all hell breaks loose and then you can take over the other account and pretend to be the new successor. How would anyone know the difference? As long as "Defcon" was kept private to only DPR2's control then he could continue running the market under this new account. Even LE would have a hard time proving that. Its really an ingenious plan when you think it through.

Dude, the fact that we as users already could tell that this is a possibility makes it the worst plan and doomed from the start, but judging by the fact there is a SR2 that Ross knows the Dox of the DPR for it wouldnt surprise me at all. And i agree, I swear Clu must be a UC.

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« Reply #83 on: December 22, 2013, 11:48:57 pm »
Wow. Im "fucking boring" huh? You understand that when this ship sinks, it's not me who's going to pay the price. I tried my level best in October to appeal to Mr. DPR2 and Cirrus (the latter whom I trust) to think this thing through.
And yet here we go again, round 3, with vanishing act, defcon apointing an annointed one.. all takes us back to square one. That Ross and now the 3 poor souls who just got fucked all will know who is behind..oh fuck it, what's the point?
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« Reply #84 on: December 22, 2013, 11:49:03 pm »
Why does nobody else find DoctorClu extremely suspicious? Everything he says makes him sound like he lives next door to DPR. Maybe its just me.

Definitely. He seems to know first hand everything that's going on. He also said he was involved in helping DPR hack into Tormarket's database and launch the DDoS against the Russian cyberattackers. He either is connected to DPR and has communicated closely with him...or he's a delusional schizophrenic.

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« Reply #85 on: December 22, 2013, 11:50:29 pm »
Smokes and mirrors you gotta love this place

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« Reply #86 on: December 22, 2013, 11:50:41 pm »
Why does nobody else find DoctorClu extremely suspicious? Everything he says makes him sound like he lives next door to DPR. Maybe its just me.

Definitely. He seems to know first hand everything that's going on. He also said he was involved in helping DPR hack into Tormarket's database and launch the DDoS against the Russian cyberattackers. He either is connected to DPR and has communicated closely with him...or he's a delusional schizophrenic.

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« Reply #87 on: December 22, 2013, 11:51:20 pm »
Doctor Clu...the only member who doesn't find the prospect of prison terrifying...it's a free brothel for him...he loves getting his bottom burgled.
You didn't didn't doxx fuck all unless your definition of doxxing is posting completely random unrelated information. Continuously repeating that you doxxed me just makes you look even more retarded every time. You are a mental case in need of professional help. - ssbd

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« Reply #88 on: December 22, 2013, 11:53:55 pm »
Why does nobody else find DoctorClu extremely suspicious? Everything he says makes him sound like he lives next door to DPR. Maybe its just me.

Definitely. He seems to know first hand everything that's going on. He also said he was involved in helping DPR hack into Tormarket's database and launch the DDoS against the Russian cyberattackers. He either is connected to DPR and has communicated closely with him...or he's a delusional schizophrenic.

I can confirm that I have no actual facts on anything that is going on. I can also confirm that people are deliberatly trying to be mysterious and love the attention of having the latest snippet of behind the scenes gossip.
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« Reply #89 on: December 22, 2013, 11:54:16 pm »
Hold on.. where has any of the mods/admins stated that ross may know the ID of the current DPR?
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« Reply #90 on: December 22, 2013, 11:56:46 pm »
Hold on.. where has any of the mods/admins stated that ross may know the ID of the current DPR?

Good question, especially since DPRv1 has been locked up and disconnected since before DPRv2 named himself the new DPR.
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« Reply #91 on: December 22, 2013, 11:57:13 pm »
Hold on.. where has any of the mods/admins stated that ross may know the ID of the current DPR?

Leave now NooB

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« Reply #92 on: December 22, 2013, 11:58:13 pm »
Compromised account thread just removed for some reason.....
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« Reply #93 on: December 22, 2013, 11:58:26 pm »
I thought DPR was Defcon too, until yesterday when the forum fucked up late last night.  For about 20 min i had full access to all areas of the forum.  I could see everything including the moderator forum, the tech geek forum, the vendor round table, the journalist area, and finally the admin forum. 

I took a screenshot of the areas i had access to so i can prove i had access.  I can also talk about threads from a specific area of the forum from last night to prove i was able to access it if you don't believe my story. 

So why am i sharing this with you?

In the admin area of the forum DPR, Defcon, and Libertas had been communicating for months.  They had many threads on the administrator forum where they discussed various issues from their own perspective.  Had i not seen what i did last night, i might believe Defcon=DPR2.0 but there are specific threads from months ago where DPR and Defcon had different opinions or ideas about how to solve issues. There are other threads where DPR asks Defcon questions, or asks Defcon to implement changes.

If DPR and Defcon are the same person, hes been talking to himself an awful lot....

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« Reply #94 on: December 23, 2013, 12:00:33 am »
I thought DPR was Defcon too, until yesterday when the forum fucked up late last night.  For about 20 min i had full access to all areas of the forum.  I could see everything including the moderator forum, the tech geek forum, the vendor round table, the journalist area, and finally the admin forum. 

I took a screenshot of the areas i had access to so i can prove i had access.  I can also talk about threads from a specific area of the forum from last night to prove i was able to access it if you don't believe my story. 

So why am i sharing this with you?

In the admin area of the forum DPR, Defcon, and Libertas had been communicating for months.  They had many threads on the administrator forum where they discussed various issues from their own perspective.  Had i not seen what i did last night, i might believe Defcon=DPR2.0 but there are specific threads from months ago where DPR and Defcon had different opinions or ideas about how to solve issues. There are other threads where DPR asks Defcon questions, or asks Defcon to implement changes.

If DPR and Defcon are the same person, hes been talking to himself an awful lot....

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« Reply #95 on: December 23, 2013, 12:01:01 am »
DPR2 = Defcon = StExo. DPR1, Indigo,..etc know StExo dox because he laundered money for them???

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« Reply #96 on: December 23, 2013, 12:01:29 am »
I don't come on for 2 days and shits hit the fan drastically. Shouldn't have expected anything less.
I sure hope we come out the other end of this one.
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« Reply #97 on: December 23, 2013, 12:01:34 am »
I thought DPR was Defcon too, until yesterday when the forum fucked up late last night.  For about 20 min i had full access to all areas of the forum.  I could see everything including the moderator forum, the tech geek forum, the vendor round table, the journalist area, and finally the admin forum. 

I took a screenshot of the areas i had access to so i can prove i had access.  I can also talk about threads from a specific area of the forum from last night to prove i was able to access it if you don't believe my story. 

So why am i sharing this with you?

In the admin area of the forum DPR, Defcon, and Libertas had been communicating for months.  They had many threads on the administrator forum where they discussed various issues from their own perspective.  Had i not seen what i did last night, i might believe Defcon=DPR2.0 but there are specific threads from months ago where DPR and Defcon had different opinions or ideas about how to solve issues. There are other threads where DPR asks Defcon questions, or asks Defcon to implement changes.

If DPR and Defcon are the same person, hes been talking to himself an awful lot....

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« Reply #98 on: December 23, 2013, 12:02:10 am »
Hold on.. where has any of the mods/admins stated that ross may know the ID of the current DPR?

Leave now NooB

Nah man, I'm asking a simple question, this does not make me a 'NooB'. It's just I haven't seen any admin/mod confirm that Ross knows the ID of DPR2.

I thought DPR was Defcon too, until yesterday when the forum fucked up late last night.  For about 20 min i had full access to all areas of the forum.  I could see everything including the moderator forum, the tech geek forum, the vendor round table, the journalist area, and finally the admin forum. 

I took a screenshot of the areas i had access to so i can prove i had access.  I can also talk about threads from a specific area of the forum from last night to prove i was able to access it if you don't believe my story. 

So why am i sharing this with you?

In the admin area of the forum DPR, Defcon, and Libertas had been communicating for months.  They had many threads on the administrator forum where they discussed various issues from their own perspective.  Had i not seen what i did last night, i might believe Defcon=DPR2.0 but there are specific threads from months ago where DPR and Defcon had different opinions or ideas about how to solve issues. There are other threads where DPR asks Defcon questions, or asks Defcon to implement changes.

If DPR and Defcon are the same person, hes been talking to himself an awful lot....

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« Reply #99 on: December 23, 2013, 12:02:23 am »
Just put yourself in his shoes. You know you are going to be doxxed at some point. You create another "admin" that hardly makes an appearance that you control and then prepare a plan to "disapear" when all hell breaks loose and then you can take over the other account and pretend to be the new successor. How would anyone know the difference? As long as "Defcon" was kept private to only DPR2's control then he could continue running the market under this new account. Even LE would have a hard time proving that. Its really an ingenious plan when you think it through.

Yes and no. It's ingenius only if it's not obvious.
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« Reply #100 on: December 23, 2013, 12:02:35 am »
Why does nobody else find DoctorClu extremely suspicious? Everything he says makes him sound like he lives next door to DPR. Maybe its just me.

Definitely. He seems to know first hand everything that's going on. He also said he was involved in helping DPR hack into Tormarket's database and launch the DDoS against the Russian cyberattackers. He either is connected to DPR and has communicated closely with him...or he's a delusional schizophrenic.

I can confirm that I have no actual facts on anything that is going on. I can also confirm that people are deliberatly trying to be mysterious and love the attention of having the latest snippet of behind the scenes gossip.
I can confirm that DoctorClu is the man on the inside who always "can confirm" the balls dry of the sweatiest man alive, AKA the feds, AKA UC, AKA I confirm. For someone who isn't "nobody" he sure can always confirm he is a somebody. I can confirm I have felt this way for quite some time, I may be wrong, but I can confirm I may also be right.

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« Reply #101 on: December 23, 2013, 12:04:07 am »
Just put yourself in his shoes. You know you are going to be doxxed at some point. You create another "admin" that hardly makes an appearance that you control and then prepare a plan to "disapear" when all hell breaks loose and then you can take over the other account and pretend to be the new successor. How would anyone know the difference? As long as "Defcon" was kept private to only DPR2's control then he could continue running the market under this new account. Even LE would have a hard time proving that. Its really an ingenious plan when you think it through.

Yes and no. It's ingenius only if it's not obvious.

The ingenious part is that it IS so obvious that nobody would think he would ever do that...okay okay ill stop. Im just rambling now.
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« Reply #102 on: December 23, 2013, 12:04:45 am »
Compromised account thread just removed for some reason.....

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« Reply #103 on: December 23, 2013, 12:05:57 am »
Compromised account thread just removed for some reason.....

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Purely because they outdated this thread.
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« Reply #104 on: December 23, 2013, 12:06:02 am »
I can confirm that DPR mentioned this contingency plan on several occasions as well as who is to be his successor now that the signal has been sent.

Hopefully, DPR is simply safe and moving to avoid capture. Stay safe.

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« Reply #105 on: December 23, 2013, 12:06:17 am »
Im looking for a tor based image hosting site, can anyone recommend one to me and ill upload a screenshot.

Check my post history, ive been here from the start and im not a troll

If any mods are around can they confirm there was a thread about raoul last night and his dox of coachella in the mod forum to vindicate me?

Any people from the tech area or journalist around so i can tell them what their threads are about?

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« Reply #106 on: December 23, 2013, 12:07:25 am »
FUCKING AWESOME DEFCON,I ALWAYS HAD FAITH,NEVER LAPSED FOR A SECOND!
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Im looking for a tor based image hosting site, can anyone recommend one to me and ill upload a screenshot.

Check my post history, ive been here from the start and im not a troll

If any mods are around can they confirm there was a thread about raoul last night and his dox of coachella in the mod forum to vindicate me?

Any people from the tech area or journalist around so i can tell them what their threads are about?

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« Reply #108 on: December 23, 2013, 12:09:12 am »
I can confirm that DPR mentioned this contingency plan on several occasions as well as who is to be his successor now that the signal has been sent.

Hopefully, DPR is simply safe and moving to avoid capture. Stay safe.

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It's true. Look through DrClu's comment history and he seems to know everything about DPR and how SR operates. Can anyone confirm DrClu knows anything and isn't just some delusional guy who has never communicated with DPR in his life?

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« Reply #109 on: December 23, 2013, 12:09:49 am »
Just put yourself in his shoes. You know you are going to be doxxed at some point. You create another "admin" that hardly makes an appearance that you control and then prepare a plan to "disapear" when all hell breaks loose and then you can take over the other account and pretend to be the new successor. How would anyone know the difference? As long as "Defcon" was kept private to only DPR2's control then he could continue running the market under this new account. Even LE would have a hard time proving that. Its really an ingenious plan when you think it through.

Yes and no. It's ingenius only if it's not obvious.

The ingenious part is that it IS so obvious that nobody would think he would ever do that...okay okay ill stop. Im just rambling now.

But... if people here on the forum can work out who he is, it's not going to fool the feds?
So I dont really see why he thinks changing his alias is going to protect him one bit in the event that any of those in custody give up information on him?
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« Reply #110 on: December 23, 2013, 12:10:24 am »
I can confirm that DPR mentioned this contingency plan on several occasions as well as who is to be his successor now that the signal has been sent.

Hopefully, DPR is simply safe and moving to avoid capture. Stay safe.

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It's true. Look through DrClu's comment history and he seems to know everything about DPR and how SR operates. Can anyone confirm DrClu knows anything and isn't just some delusional guy who has never communicated with DPR in his life?

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« Reply #111 on: December 23, 2013, 12:10:56 am »
Defcon's always been the mysterious one lurking in the back corner. This is exactly why I trust him more then anyone else.
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« Reply #112 on: December 23, 2013, 12:11:37 am »
Just put yourself in his shoes. You know you are going to be doxxed at some point. You create another "admin" that hardly makes an appearance that you control and then prepare a plan to "disapear" when all hell breaks loose and then you can take over the other account and pretend to be the new successor. How would anyone know the difference? As long as "Defcon" was kept private to only DPR2's control then he could continue running the market under this new account. Even LE would have a hard time proving that. Its really an ingenious plan when you think it through.

Yes and no. It's ingenius only if it's not obvious.

The ingenious part is that it IS so obvious that nobody would think he would ever do that...okay okay ill stop. Im just rambling now.

But... if people here on the forum can work out who he is, it's not going to fool the feds?
So I dont really see why he thinks changing his alias is going to protect him one bit in the event that any of those in custody give up information on him?

Its all about what you can prove in a court of law. It may be obvious, but proof will determine the outcome.
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« Reply #113 on: December 23, 2013, 12:12:12 am »
I am 100% positive if I was inevitably, undeniably heading for the edge of a cliff three quarters of you would fall with me.


The boob most certainly would have something to do with that.



I believe ChemCat to be the successor.

:) 

Aweh, what a nice thought. 


Why does nobody else find DoctorClu extremely suspicious? Everything he says makes him sound like he lives next door to DPR. Maybe its just me.

Why?... because he knows things you don't?

I don't find him suspicious; I find him logical and informed. 

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« Reply #114 on: December 23, 2013, 12:12:29 am »
Defcon's always been the mysterious one lurking in the back corner. This is exactly why I trust him more then anyone else.

Of course. I always trust the lurkers too.
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« Reply #115 on: December 23, 2013, 12:13:49 am »
Defcon's always been the mysterious one lurking in the back corner. This is exactly why I trust him more then anyone else.

Anyone with any sense running an operation like this would want to stay in the background. Makes me wonder if DPR2 had anything to do with actually operating the site and wasn't just some jester frontman thrown out there to talk a big game.

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« Reply #116 on: December 23, 2013, 12:16:45 am »
I'm fuck'n lost    ???   again

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« Reply #117 on: December 23, 2013, 12:18:22 am »
...thanks Defcon....what a fucking crazy last 3 months....man-o-man......peace everybody.......
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« Reply #118 on: December 23, 2013, 12:18:35 am »
Hold on.. where has any of the mods/admins stated that ross may know the ID of the current DPR?

Good question, especially since DPRv1 has been locked up and disconnected since before DPRv2 named himself the new DPR.

Yeah and the feds who've been working on breaking Ross and getting him to sing since October haven't ONCE shown him new SR with someone using his name and site design and talking about making hundreds of thousands while his defence fund sits almost empty?

LE always use the old "do you think he'd do fifty years and protect you? look he's stolen your intellectual copyright and they've all forgotten about you" line.

Bam. I'll tell you all one thing, this thread, the OP, this entire charade is a farce. Not because DPR2 is "compromised". On the contrary. He's NOT compromised .. and this is playing with fire. Ross, Lib, all of them.. they.will.point.their.finger. And the LEA's have stylometric analysis experience/tools that would make your head spin twice. This is foolish and wreckless. I said this in early October, and I was right. But this plan is more wreckless then the first.

And I've pled my case in private as well with the only person around here who I can say with 98.7% certainty IS well intentioned and has been since before the majority of you even knew what SR was.

My advice is this - if you all want to know IMHO, the only credible person at this point is Cirrus. Only Cirrus. Cirrus is not a shill of anyone, Cirrus is not a greedy child, Cirrus has a moral compass that dates back to before DPR2/Lib etc ever came into the picture. It's on his shoulders now to either back this ludicrous plan or not. I don't have the answer, but I dont want people being put at risk because of one persons quest to be wealthy and over estimate his own intelligence. And that's what's about to happen. Like I said, the irony is rich. "Ambition has no rest". Quote me on that folks.
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« Reply #119 on: December 23, 2013, 12:20:18 am »
I'm sorry that there are those that know more than you do. Secrets protect us.
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« Reply #120 on: December 23, 2013, 12:20:40 am »
the truth is, this is all speculation. you wont know what they dont want you to know. if you're too scared to use the site, dont use it. but for those of us who are "stupid" and trust the infrastructure of the site despite the human errors that have made headlines. its not the sites fault, but human errors. again, if you're too scared, dont use it, and leave the ones who aren't scared to do their business and deal with their own consequences.
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« Reply #121 on: December 23, 2013, 12:22:17 am »
I'm sorry that there are those that know more than you do. Secrets protect us.

Its not about the secrets, its about the mystery and smoke that surrounds you. I suppose I would love to be able to give out info like that to those people who refresh the thread every 5 seconds with their tongue hangin out as well.
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« Reply #122 on: December 23, 2013, 12:23:05 am »
Oracle,

So it seems you are just worried that those running the show will get busted, but market itself is still intact and secure (assumed since you have not eluded anything else).  Sounds like status quo then, I believe all know the risks involved.

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« Reply #123 on: December 23, 2013, 12:23:30 am »
Im looking for a tor based image hosting site, can anyone recommend one to me and ill upload a screenshot.

Check my post history, ive been here from the start and im not a troll

If any mods are around can they confirm there was a thread about raoul last night and his dox of coachella in the mod forum to vindicate me?

Any people from the tech area or journalist around so i can tell them what their threads are about?

torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/

Thank you.

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« Last Edit: December 23, 2013, 12:37:07 am by smoke2joints »

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« Reply #124 on: December 23, 2013, 12:25:17 am »
I'm sorry that there are those that know more than you do. Secrets protect us.

Secrets have destroyed more than they protected. Your comments make you look like a dick, "sorry there are people that know more than you", okay your cool we get it. If its a secret then say nothing instead of "confirming" for us that you can't say what is going on, but booooooy do you know what it is!

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« Reply #125 on: December 23, 2013, 12:26:05 am »
Im looking for a tor based image hosting site, can anyone recommend one to me and ill upload a screenshot.

Check my post history, ive been here from the start and im not a troll

If any mods are around can they confirm there was a thread about raoul last night and his dox of coachella in the mod forum to vindicate me?

Any people from the tech area or journalist around so i can tell them what their threads are about?

torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/

Thank you.

Here is a shot of the threads in the moderator forum from last night.  Im not going to post anything more to protect security of thoes involved.

http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion{REMOVED - SENSITIVE}

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« Reply #126 on: December 23, 2013, 12:26:50 am »
Im looking for a tor based image hosting site, can anyone recommend one to me and ill upload a screenshot.

Check my post history, ive been here from the start and im not a troll

If any mods are around can they confirm there was a thread about raoul last night and his dox of coachella in the mod forum to vindicate me?

Any people from the tech area or journalist around so i can tell them what their threads are about?

torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/

Thank you.

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« Reply #127 on: December 23, 2013, 12:29:07 am »
Hold on.. where has any of the mods/admins stated that ross may know the ID of the current DPR?

Good question, especially since DPRv1 has been locked up and disconnected since before DPRv2 named himself the new DPR.

Yeah and the feds who've been working on breaking Ross and getting him to sing since October haven't ONCE shown him new SR with someone using his name and site design and talking about making hundreds of thousands while his defence fund sits almost empty?

LE always use the old "do you think he'd do fifty years and protect you? look he's stolen your intellectual copyright and they've all forgotten about you" line.

Bam. I'll tell you all one thing, this thread, the OP, this entire charade is a farce. Not because DPR2 is "compromised". On the contrary. He's NOT compromised .. and this is playing with fire. Ross, Lib, all of them.. they.will.point.their.finger. And the LEA's have stylometric analysis experience/tools that would make your head spin twice. This is foolish and wreckless. I said this in early October, and I was right. But this plan is more wreckless then the first.

And I've pled my case in private as well with the only person around here who I can say with 98.7% certainty IS well intentioned and has been since before the majority of you even knew what SR was.

My advice is this - if you all want to know IMHO, the only credible person at this point is Cirrus. Only Cirrus. Cirrus is not a shill of anyone, Cirrus is not a greedy child, Cirrus has a moral compass that dates back to before DPR2/Lib etc ever came into the picture. It's on his shoulders now to either back this ludicrous plan or not. I don't have the answer, but I dont want people being put at risk because of one persons quest to be wealthy and over estimate his own intelligence. And that's what's about to happen. Like I said, the irony is rich. "Ambition has no rest". Quote me on that folks.

yeah and pointing fingers, trying to find out DPR's identity, and attempting to uncover the anonymity the site is based on isn't whats hurting the site right?

I'm sorry that there are those that know more than you do. Secrets protect us.

Secrets have destroyed more than they protected. Your comments make you look like a dick, "sorry there are people that know more than you", okay your cool we get it. If its a secret then say nothing instead of "confirming" for us that you can't say what is going on, but booooooy do you know what it is!

do you feel bad because you're out of the loop? so am i. im not offended though.. the reason some mods/admins/trusted users have to keep confirming stuff is because ALL OF THIS IS SPECULATION by mere common users.
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« Reply #128 on: December 23, 2013, 12:38:02 am »
Hold on.. where has any of the mods/admins stated that ross may know the ID of the current DPR?

Good question, especially since DPRv1 has been locked up and disconnected since before DPRv2 named himself the new DPR.

Yeah and the feds who've been working on breaking Ross and getting him to sing since October haven't ONCE shown him new SR with someone using his name and site design and talking about making hundreds of thousands while his defence fund sits almost empty?

LE always use the old "do you think he'd do fifty years and protect you? look he's stolen your intellectual copyright and they've all forgotten about you" line.

Bam. I'll tell you all one thing, this thread, the OP, this entire charade is a farce. Not because DPR2 is "compromised". On the contrary. He's NOT compromised .. and this is playing with fire. Ross, Lib, all of them.. they.will.point.their.finger. And the LEA's have stylometric analysis experience/tools that would make your head spin twice. This is foolish and wreckless. I said this in early October, and I was right. But this plan is more wreckless then the first.

And I've pled my case in private as well with the only person around here who I can say with 98.7% certainty IS well intentioned and has been since before the majority of you even knew what SR was.

My advice is this - if you all want to know IMHO, the only credible person at this point is Cirrus. Only Cirrus. Cirrus is not a shill of anyone, Cirrus is not a greedy child, Cirrus has a moral compass that dates back to before DPR2/Lib etc ever came into the picture. It's on his shoulders now to either back this ludicrous plan or not. I don't have the answer, but I dont want people being put at risk because of one persons quest to be wealthy and over estimate his own intelligence. And that's what's about to happen. Like I said, the irony is rich. "Ambition has no rest". Quote me on that folks.

yeah and pointing fingers, trying to find out DPR's identity, and attempting to uncover the anonymity the site is based on isn't whats hurting the site right?

I'm sorry that there are those that know more than you do. Secrets protect us.

Secrets have destroyed more than they protected. Your comments make you look like a dick, "sorry there are people that know more than you", okay your cool we get it. If its a secret then say nothing instead of "confirming" for us that you can't say what is going on, but booooooy do you know what it is!

do you feel bad because you're out of the loop? so am i. im not offended though.. the reason some mods/admins/trusted users have to keep confirming stuff is because ALL OF THIS IS SPECULATION by mere common users.

Dick taste good? What has he confirmed? That he can confirm he can confirm but cant give conformation? Do you even understand what were arguing about?

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« Reply #129 on: December 23, 2013, 12:40:05 am »
xol +1

Yep, sucks.    What ever was said, was said - foolish to think it was deleted for concerns of security.  It was obviously a power play and has given more credibility to oracles'  previous posts that too disappeared.


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Of course my posts were deleted. No shocker there. I'm sure my account will be too at some point, simply for pleading for reason and sanity and caution.
I'm about very close to bowing out of here. You all know where to reach me oracledelphi@safe-mail.net  (I'm sure that address will be censored out too.. because.. people arent allowed to post their own email addresses.. or something).

Wow, just wow.
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« Reply #130 on: December 23, 2013, 12:42:03 am »
Plz go nowhere O.   

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« Reply #131 on: December 23, 2013, 12:43:20 am »
xol +1

Yep, sucks.    What ever was said, was said - foolish to think it was deleted for concerns of security.  It was obviously a power play and has given more credibility to oracles'  previous posts that too disappeared.


Very Strange happenings

Of course my posts were deleted. No shocker there. I'm sure my account will be too at some point, simply for pleading for reason and sanity and caution.
I'm about very close to bowing out of here. You all know where to reach me oracledelphi@safe-mail.net  (I'm sure that address will be censored out too.. because.. people arent allowed to post their own email addresses.. or something).

Wow, just wow.

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« Reply #132 on: December 23, 2013, 12:44:49 am »
It's removed. To be fair thankfully no specific sensitive data was shown in the picture other than thread titles. But I see where you are coming from and sorry for having quoted it.
I seriously don't understand how he managed to get access to it though. I still don't 100% believe it, I mean a forum can't just error and give a entry level user access to all areas.. can anyone explain or make sense of it?
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« Reply #133 on: December 23, 2013, 12:45:54 am »
Hold on.. where has any of the mods/admins stated that ross may know the ID of the current DPR?

Good question, especially since DPRv1 has been locked up and disconnected since before DPRv2 named himself the new DPR.

Yeah and the feds who've been working on breaking Ross and getting him to sing since October haven't ONCE shown him new SR with someone using his name and site design and talking about making hundreds of thousands while his defence fund sits almost empty?

LE always use the old "do you think he'd do fifty years and protect you? look he's stolen your intellectual copyright and they've all forgotten about you" line.

Bam. I'll tell you all one thing, this thread, the OP, this entire charade is a farce. Not because DPR2 is "compromised". On the contrary. He's NOT compromised .. and this is playing with fire. Ross, Lib, all of them.. they.will.point.their.finger. And the LEA's have stylometric analysis experience/tools that would make your head spin twice. This is foolish and wreckless. I said this in early October, and I was right. But this plan is more wreckless then the first.

And I've pled my case in private as well with the only person around here who I can say with 98.7% certainty IS well intentioned and has been since before the majority of you even knew what SR was.

My advice is this - if you all want to know IMHO, the only credible person at this point is Cirrus. Only Cirrus. Cirrus is not a shill of anyone, Cirrus is not a greedy child, Cirrus has a moral compass that dates back to before DPR2/Lib etc ever came into the picture. It's on his shoulders now to either back this ludicrous plan or not. I don't have the answer, but I dont want people being put at risk because of one persons quest to be wealthy and over estimate his own intelligence. And that's what's about to happen. Like I said, the irony is rich. "Ambition has no rest". Quote me on that folks.

yeah and pointing fingers, trying to find out DPR's identity, and attempting to uncover the anonymity the site is based on isn't whats hurting the site right?

I'm sorry that there are those that know more than you do. Secrets protect us.

Secrets have destroyed more than they protected. Your comments make you look like a dick, "sorry there are people that know more than you", okay your cool we get it. If its a secret then say nothing instead of "confirming" for us that you can't say what is going on, but booooooy do you know what it is!

do you feel bad because you're out of the loop? so am i. im not offended though.. the reason some mods/admins/trusted users have to keep confirming stuff is because ALL OF THIS IS SPECULATION by mere common users.

Dick taste good? What has he confirmed? That he can confirm he can confirm but cant give conformation? Do you even understand what were arguing about?

i guess not, because you guys seem to keep coming up with shit to complain about. why do you even care about this site if you dont trust it anymore? why do you keep posting if its all negative about the site and its users?
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« Reply #134 on: December 23, 2013, 12:47:37 am »
It's removed. To be fair thankfully no specific sensitive data was shown in the picture other than thread titles. But I see where you are coming from and sorry for having quoted it.
I seriously don't understand how he managed to get access to it though. I still don't 100% believe it, I mean a forum can't just error and give a entry level user access to all areas.. can anyone explain or make sense of it?

A rouge vendor buddy of his sent it to him. 

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« Reply #135 on: December 23, 2013, 12:51:50 am »
Hold on.. where has any of the mods/admins stated that ross may know the ID of the current DPR?

Good question, especially since DPRv1 has been locked up and disconnected since before DPRv2 named himself the new DPR.

Yeah and the feds who've been working on breaking Ross and getting him to sing since October haven't ONCE shown him new SR with someone using his name and site design and talking about making hundreds of thousands while his defence fund sits almost empty?

LE always use the old "do you think he'd do fifty years and protect you? look he's stolen your intellectual copyright and they've all forgotten about you" line.

Bam. I'll tell you all one thing, this thread, the OP, this entire charade is a farce. Not because DPR2 is "compromised". On the contrary. He's NOT compromised .. and this is playing with fire. Ross, Lib, all of them.. they.will.point.their.finger. And the LEA's have stylometric analysis experience/tools that would make your head spin twice. This is foolish and wreckless. I said this in early October, and I was right. But this plan is more wreckless then the first.

And I've pled my case in private as well with the only person around here who I can say with 98.7% certainty IS well intentioned and has been since before the majority of you even knew what SR was.

My advice is this - if you all want to know IMHO, the only credible person at this point is Cirrus. Only Cirrus. Cirrus is not a shill of anyone, Cirrus is not a greedy child, Cirrus has a moral compass that dates back to before DPR2/Lib etc ever came into the picture. It's on his shoulders now to either back this ludicrous plan or not. I don't have the answer, but I dont want people being put at risk because of one persons quest to be wealthy and over estimate his own intelligence. And that's what's about to happen. Like I said, the irony is rich. "Ambition has no rest". Quote me on that folks.

yeah and pointing fingers, trying to find out DPR's identity, and attempting to uncover the anonymity the site is based on isn't whats hurting the site right?

I'm sorry that there are those that know more than you do. Secrets protect us.

Secrets have destroyed more than they protected. Your comments make you look like a dick, "sorry there are people that know more than you", okay your cool we get it. If its a secret then say nothing instead of "confirming" for us that you can't say what is going on, but booooooy do you know what it is!

do you feel bad because you're out of the loop? so am i. im not offended though.. the reason some mods/admins/trusted users have to keep confirming stuff is because ALL OF THIS IS SPECULATION by mere common users.

Dick taste good? What has he confirmed? That he can confirm he can confirm but cant give conformation? Do you even understand what were arguing about?

i guess not, because you guys seem to keep coming up with shit to complain about. why do you even care about this site if you dont trust it anymore? why do you keep posting if its all negative about the site and its users?

Simply because I am tired of a guy prancing through threads pretending to be the "cool kid" because he can confirm some shit we have all seen or already read, Mr DPR sidekick who just has a bunch of post's so now I know everything that happens behind the scenes. He confirmed everything was fine with DPR now what, The may be compromised thread ring a bell? New DPR successor ring a bell? But oh how I can confirm... Show you my boobs we call it even?

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« Reply #136 on: December 23, 2013, 12:52:16 am »
Where's synergy? He hasn't posted since the 19th...
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« Reply #137 on: December 23, 2013, 12:54:00 am »
It's removed. To be fair thankfully no specific sensitive data was shown in the picture other than thread titles. But I see where you are coming from and sorry for having quoted it.
I seriously don't understand how he managed to get access to it though. I still don't 100% believe it, I mean a forum can't just error and give a entry level user access to all areas.. can anyone explain or make sense of it?

Rogue moderator...

That came from the mod forum.

There are only supposed to be 2 mods left...

Ruh oh.

Wtf but why, I don't get it. I feel like this is one big conspiracy by DPR/mods kinda like oracle and strike are saying. Part of me now wants to log out and shut everything down till the 28th when the break is over.


And Synergy was meant to be on holiday, but the mods have suspended his account *just in case* I believe
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« Reply #138 on: December 23, 2013, 12:54:24 am »
Fuck em Raoul We on this ship she will not sink im wit you
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« Reply #139 on: December 23, 2013, 12:55:09 am »
Where's synergy? He hasn't posted since the 19th...

He likely took a trip to Belize...

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« Reply #140 on: December 23, 2013, 12:56:53 am »
It's removed. To be fair thankfully no specific sensitive data was shown in the picture other than thread titles. But I see where you are coming from and sorry for having quoted it.
I seriously don't understand how he managed to get access to it though. I still don't 100% believe it, I mean a forum can't just error and give a entry level user access to all areas.. can anyone explain or make sense of it?

Rogue moderator...

That came from the mod forum.

There are only supposed to be 2 mods left...

Ruh oh.

Wtf but why, I don't get it. I feel like this is one big conspiracy by DPR/mods kinda like oracle and strike are saying. Part of me now wants to log out and shut everything down till the 28th when the break is over.


And Synergy was meant to be on holiday, but the mods have suspended his account *just in case* I believe

There is no conspiracy. But there is massive lack of planning and rushed foolish decisions that seem to be purposely being pushed aside.
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« Reply #141 on: December 23, 2013, 12:57:10 am »
I would be so happy if Synergy came in hear and posted

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« Reply #142 on: December 23, 2013, 12:57:36 am »
Maybe SYNERGY IS DEFCOM :)
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« Reply #143 on: December 23, 2013, 12:58:40 am »
It's removed. To be fair thankfully no specific sensitive data was shown in the picture other than thread titles. But I see where you are coming from and sorry for having quoted it.
I seriously don't understand how he managed to get access to it though. I still don't 100% believe it, I mean a forum can't just error and give a entry level user access to all areas.. can anyone explain or make sense of it?

Rogue moderator...

That came from the mod forum.

There are only supposed to be 2 mods left...

Ruh oh.

Wtf but why, I don't get it. I feel like this is one big conspiracy by DPR/mods kinda like oracle and strike are saying. Part of me now wants to log out and shut everything down till the 28th when the break is over.


And Synergy was meant to be on holiday, but the mods have suspended his account *just in case* I believe

There is no conspiracy. But there is massive lack of planning and rushed foolish decisions that seem to be purposely being pushed aside.
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« Reply #144 on: December 23, 2013, 12:59:50 am »
Its a puzzle inside a mystery wrapped in an enigma!!!

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« Reply #146 on: December 23, 2013, 01:01:35 am »
Id be straight onto that tit :)
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Id be straight onto that tit :)

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« Reply #148 on: December 23, 2013, 01:06:07 am »
It's removed. To be fair thankfully no specific sensitive data was shown in the picture other than thread titles. But I see where you are coming from and sorry for having quoted it.
I seriously don't understand how he managed to get access to it though. I still don't 100% believe it, I mean a forum can't just error and give a entry level user access to all areas.. can anyone explain or make sense of it?
There was a thread i saw somewhere earlier with a buyer saying he suddenly had access to all parts of the forums, i don't remember his full username but it had toke in it.
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« Reply #149 on: December 23, 2013, 01:06:15 am »
Hold on.. where has any of the mods/admins stated that ross may know the ID of the current DPR?

Good question, especially since DPRv1 has been locked up and disconnected since before DPRv2 named himself the new DPR.

Yeah and the feds who've been working on breaking Ross and getting him to sing since October haven't ONCE shown him new SR with someone using his name and site design and talking about making hundreds of thousands while his defence fund sits almost empty?

LE always use the old "do you think he'd do fifty years and protect you? look he's stolen your intellectual copyright and they've all forgotten about you" line.

Bam. I'll tell you all one thing, this thread, the OP, this entire charade is a farce. Not because DPR2 is "compromised". On the contrary. He's NOT compromised .. and this is playing with fire. Ross, Lib, all of them.. they.will.point.their.finger. And the LEA's have stylometric analysis experience/tools that would make your head spin twice. This is foolish and wreckless. I said this in early October, and I was right. But this plan is more wreckless then the first.

And I've pled my case in private as well with the only person around here who I can say with 98.7% certainty IS well intentioned and has been since before the majority of you even knew what SR was.

My advice is this - if you all want to know IMHO, the only credible person at this point is Cirrus. Only Cirrus. Cirrus is not a shill of anyone, Cirrus is not a greedy child, Cirrus has a moral compass that dates back to before DPR2/Lib etc ever came into the picture. It's on his shoulders now to either back this ludicrous plan or not. I don't have the answer, but I dont want people being put at risk because of one persons quest to be wealthy and over estimate his own intelligence. And that's what's about to happen. Like I said, the irony is rich. "Ambition has no rest". Quote me on that folks.

yeah and pointing fingers, trying to find out DPR's identity, and attempting to uncover the anonymity the site is based on isn't whats hurting the site right?

I'm sorry that there are those that know more than you do. Secrets protect us.

Secrets have destroyed more than they protected. Your comments make you look like a dick, "sorry there are people that know more than you", okay your cool we get it. If its a secret then say nothing instead of "confirming" for us that you can't say what is going on, but booooooy do you know what it is!

do you feel bad because you're out of the loop? so am i. im not offended though.. the reason some mods/admins/trusted users have to keep confirming stuff is because ALL OF THIS IS SPECULATION by mere common users.

Dick taste good? What has he confirmed? That he can confirm he can confirm but cant give conformation? Do you even understand what were arguing about?

i guess not, because you guys seem to keep coming up with shit to complain about. why do you even care about this site if you dont trust it anymore? why do you keep posting if its all negative about the site and its users?

Simply because I am tired of a guy prancing through threads pretending to be the "cool kid" because he can confirm some shit we have all seen or already read, Mr DPR sidekick who just has a bunch of post's so now I know everything that happens behind the scenes. He confirmed everything was fine with DPR now what, The may be compromised thread ring a bell? New DPR successor ring a bell? But oh how I can confirm... Show you my boobs we call it even?

to be fair, he never claimed to be the "cool kid". hes also not the only one to be restating already known info. and yes that is how a forum tends to work. the more you post and the better your rep, the more priveleges you get. i cant see why you're so angry. oracle is claiming everything is fine with DPR as well, and that hes just hiding. why does it surprise you that there might be more secrets on the secret web than you were initially led to believe? im not pretending to know everything about this.. (like some people i see posting *cough cough*).. but its obvious that the site isnt completely compromised yet (or even if it will be). chemcat and cirrus seem to have calmed down quite a bit, which from the "compromise thread" were labeled as the only reliable people... the only person in danger is, from what ive gathered, DPR 2.

and about your boob picture. i dont even know if thats really your boob, but if you didnt want people making remarks about it, why did you even post it? and if it IS really you. then thats gotta be the dumbest thing ive seen today. your face is clearly visible and it wouldnt be hard AT ALL to find out who you really are.
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« Reply #150 on: December 23, 2013, 01:13:31 am »
Hold on.. where has any of the mods/admins stated that ross may know the ID of the current DPR?

Good question, especially since DPRv1 has been locked up and disconnected since before DPRv2 named himself the new DPR.

Yeah and the feds who've been working on breaking Ross and getting him to sing since October haven't ONCE shown him new SR with someone using his name and site design and talking about making hundreds of thousands while his defence fund sits almost empty?

LE always use the old "do you think he'd do fifty years and protect you? look he's stolen your intellectual copyright and they've all forgotten about you" line.

Bam. I'll tell you all one thing, this thread, the OP, this entire charade is a farce. Not because DPR2 is "compromised". On the contrary. He's NOT compromised .. and this is playing with fire. Ross, Lib, all of them.. they.will.point.their.finger. And the LEA's have stylometric analysis experience/tools that would make your head spin twice. This is foolish and wreckless. I said this in early October, and I was right. But this plan is more wreckless then the first.

And I've pled my case in private as well with the only person around here who I can say with 98.7% certainty IS well intentioned and has been since before the majority of you even knew what SR was.

My advice is this - if you all want to know IMHO, the only credible person at this point is Cirrus. Only Cirrus. Cirrus is not a shill of anyone, Cirrus is not a greedy child, Cirrus has a moral compass that dates back to before DPR2/Lib etc ever came into the picture. It's on his shoulders now to either back this ludicrous plan or not. I don't have the answer, but I dont want people being put at risk because of one persons quest to be wealthy and over estimate his own intelligence. And that's what's about to happen. Like I said, the irony is rich. "Ambition has no rest". Quote me on that folks.

yeah and pointing fingers, trying to find out DPR's identity, and attempting to uncover the anonymity the site is based on isn't whats hurting the site right?

I'm sorry that there are those that know more than you do. Secrets protect us.

Secrets have destroyed more than they protected. Your comments make you look like a dick, "sorry there are people that know more than you", okay your cool we get it. If its a secret then say nothing instead of "confirming" for us that you can't say what is going on, but booooooy do you know what it is!

do you feel bad because you're out of the loop? so am i. im not offended though.. the reason some mods/admins/trusted users have to keep confirming stuff is because ALL OF THIS IS SPECULATION by mere common users.

Dick taste good? What has he confirmed? That he can confirm he can confirm but cant give conformation? Do you even understand what were arguing about?

i guess not, because you guys seem to keep coming up with shit to complain about. why do you even care about this site if you dont trust it anymore? why do you keep posting if its all negative about the site and its users?

Simply because I am tired of a guy prancing through threads pretending to be the "cool kid" because he can confirm some shit we have all seen or already read, Mr DPR sidekick who just has a bunch of post's so now I know everything that happens behind the scenes. He confirmed everything was fine with DPR now what, The may be compromised thread ring a bell? New DPR successor ring a bell? But oh how I can confirm... Show you my boobs we call it even?

to be fair, he never claimed to be the "cool kid". hes also not the only one to be restating already known info. and yes that is how a forum tends to work. the more you post and the better your rep, the more priveleges you get. i cant see why you're so angry. oracle is claiming everything is fine with DPR as well, and that hes just hiding. why does it surprise you that there might be more secrets on the secret web than you were initially led to believe? im not pretending to know everything about this.. (like some people i see posting *cough cough*).. but its obvious that the site isnt completely compromised yet (or even if it will be). chemcat and cirrus seem to have calmed down quite a bit, which from the "compromise thread" were labeled as the only reliable people... the only person in danger is, from what ive gathered, DPR 2.

and about your boob picture. i dont even know if thats really your boob, but if you didnt want people making remarks about it, why did you even post it? and if it IS really you. then thats gotta be the dumbest thing ive seen today. your face is clearly visible and it wouldnt be hard AT ALL to find out who you really are.

Dude.....Come on, for the sake of argument, have a decent time with me, like, do I have to do all the work? And who said I didn't want people talking about it? Furthermore...About your comment regarding my boob picture, your not that fucking dumb, right? Who the fuck am I kidding....

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« Reply #151 on: December 23, 2013, 01:15:16 am »
Where's synergy? He hasn't posted since the 19th...

Ask DPR... no literally. He knows.

holy shit....


so you been chatting with DPR then have you?

Something like that.


that's beautiful...... so we have a near total panic run take over the whole forum and dpr is shooting the breeze with a journalist....in secret, leaving his mods/admins and number 2 to perform emergency protocols and leave everyone to guess whether or not LE is now filling the honey pot.

staggering...

Talk about a plot twist huh?

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« Reply #152 on: December 23, 2013, 01:19:19 am »
okay, im done on this thread. im leaving it to the hysteria-driven tin-foil hat-wearers that believe everything they read on this forum.

good luck :D
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« Reply #153 on: December 23, 2013, 01:22:56 am »
FWIW, DPR was planning the exit from the moment the arrests happened.

Astonishingly, he took the time to PM me that he wouldn't be around to help on the book any more and to strap in for a "very rough ride"

not really surprising, you're the most out there rl and reputable person floating around here.  It also means that you're warned in case of any unusual contact and of course it backs up the story that he's done a runner, so you can quiet any hysteria if the tinfoil hat brigade thought he'd been arrested.

very clever.

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« Reply #154 on: December 23, 2013, 01:24:19 am »
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« Reply #155 on: December 23, 2013, 01:29:59 am »
okay, im done on this thread. im leaving it to the hysteria-driven tin-foil hat-wearers that believe everything they read on this forum.

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« Reply #156 on: December 23, 2013, 01:32:19 am »
Sorry guys:

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I said it once and I will say it again, LEO is taking time going through the server and the laptop. They wil find ANY clues left behind...

Mods, Vendors, Buyers, if any incriminating info is found you will be investigated.

It is only a matter of time.

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« Reply #157 on: December 23, 2013, 01:32:38 am »
Where's synergy? He hasn't posted since the 19th...

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« Reply #158 on: December 23, 2013, 01:36:44 am »
I am glad that the forum participation is 2% of the total SR marketplace traffic (if true) and I can only hope that what we see here on the forum is not representative of the population as a whole.
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« Reply #159 on: December 23, 2013, 01:37:56 am »
I really hope Bob is ok... And that tomorrows news wont be about the "second DPR"
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« Reply #160 on: December 23, 2013, 01:39:04 am »
I think SR2 was flawed from the start and aat least people havn't lost as much money as last time.  SR is dead.  Leave the name for the history books and start over.  The set up of this site was childish, taunting LE and antagonising them with media articles etc.  This DPR seemed young and slightly arrogant.

The mods should have gone down with the last SR.  It seems stupid they would continue to take the risks after SR1 was busted considering Ross knew their IRL identities.  You could call it brave and determined.  I don't trust St Exo and somethnig told me he had a part in SR2.  His affiliation to a vendor offering fake college degrees on SR1 has always worried me.  Additionally his bulk weed business which he stated would be delivered by private couriers rather than RM that never took off.  This St Exo seemed young, immature and a bullshitter.  A bit like Limitless.

However, I then started reading his more recent posts about opsec and he seemed a lot more intelligent and at odds with the above character.  He may have nothing to do with SR2 and I know many people trust and respect him a lot.  We all have our opinions and this just happens to be mine.

His money laundering business then some interview he gave with a reporter in London about this disussing his dad's accountancy background also worried me.  Does this guy really have anything to do with SR 2? I am just curious if other people thought this as I am only going on the aforementioned threads and then seeing him become one of SR's security experts to disappearing when SR2 was starting.  I have nothing against the guy, just confused about what he has written.   

Silkroad is now just a name to attract mass fo customers and money.  Can there really be another rejig over christmas and back to normal?  I mean I am a small customer and am not sure.  But hey, use pgp and make couple small purchases.  How the fuck do intnl vendors with tens of thousands in escrow trust this I have no idea. 

As much as I want this to work and be running quickly i just seems stupid to continue with it.  New people, new names, new mods, new design, start fresh.  Reminds me when searching for drugs on the street in a drunken haze at 3am.  You wana believe that someone will have some decent stuff and your desperation fools you into pursuing further than you know in your mind you should.  Eventually a wave of sobriety hits you and you decide to get a burger and call it a night.  I hope that happens here.

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« Reply #161 on: December 23, 2013, 01:40:27 am »
I see that the post count was @ 611 but if he can message the staff or who ever why couldnt he just publicly give us that or any kind of message? any one could have alterd a a picture to make it look like he just posted that.....just saying.
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« Reply #163 on: December 23, 2013, 01:42:06 am »
Sorry guys:

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« Reply #164 on: December 23, 2013, 01:43:20 am »
Sorry guys:

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Thank you!

For what? All this post provides is that DPR outed Synergy as SSBD...SSBD is currenly indicted and this makes a connection that was not meant to be publicized.
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« Reply #165 on: December 23, 2013, 01:45:16 am »
Sorry guys:

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Thank you!

For what? All this post provides is that DPR outed Synergy as SSBD...SSBD is currenly indicted and this makes a connection that was not meant to be publicized.

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« Reply #166 on: December 23, 2013, 01:46:26 am »
Sorry guys:

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I said it once and I will say it again, LEO is taking time going through the server and the laptop. They wil find ANY clues left behind...

Mods, Vendors, Buyers, if any incriminating info is found you will be investigated.

It is only a matter of time.

And fuck you to everybody that said I was stupid for thinking that.

I have long said that we haven't even begun to see the fallout from the SR1 bust. Nixon's right, they are going to use every goddamn scrap of information they can glean against everyone they can possibly find.  Ross may have been an idiot and a fool, but the ones who freely handed-over their information to him were even greater fools. If I had been asked to do such a thing, I would have told Ross to go fuck himself, literally. As long as you're anonymous, what could he possibly do to you? Kick you off the Forum? Prevent you from buying/selling contraband?  So, they put their heads in a noose, and the Feds tripped the trap door.

With the most recent busts, even more machines were seized. Who the hell knows what was on them? If their opsec was on a par with Ross' then... The dominoes are falling one by one. In the end, only the people who have their shit together, with respect to security, will survive -- the rest will be collateral damage.

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« Reply #167 on: December 23, 2013, 01:48:38 am »
Sorry guys:

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Thank you!

For what? All this post provides is that DPR outed Synergy as SSBD...SSBD is currenly indicted and this makes a connection that was not meant to be publicized.

It shows who snitches are...

Was watergate this bad for you?
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« Reply #168 on: December 23, 2013, 01:49:00 am »
Welcome to the Magical Mystery Tour....step right this way.....

Will the next DPR.......DPR 3.0      Please stand up, please stand up.....will DPR 3 please stand up?    By the end of the year we might be on DPR 15 or 16 at this rate. 

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« Reply #169 on: December 23, 2013, 01:51:37 am »
No, I saw SSBD = Synergy earlier in the DPR account compromised thread...this isn't anything new. The release said he was "Symmetry" when they clearly meant Synergy. I'm sure they attempted to cover it up at first (Vacation story when SSBD was arrested) but the arrest became public and it was speculated amongst us peasants.

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« Reply #170 on: December 23, 2013, 01:51:59 am »
Welcome to the Magical Mystery Tour....step right this way.....

Will the next DPR.......DPR 3.0      Please stand up, please stand up.....will DPR 3 please stand up?    By the end of the year we might be on DPR 15 or 16 at this rate.

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« Reply #171 on: December 23, 2013, 01:53:29 am »
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« Reply #172 on: December 23, 2013, 01:54:27 am »
Welcome to the Magical Mystery Tour....step right this way.....

Will the next DPR.......DPR 3.0      Please stand up, please stand up.....will DPR 3 please stand up?    By the end of the year we might be on DPR 15 or 16 at this rate.

hahahahaha some random dude who's bought like 3g of bud ends up with the keys to the kingdom... "holy fuck im DPR"

So everything would be back to normal.
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« Reply #173 on: December 23, 2013, 01:55:24 am »
No, I saw SSBD = Synergy earlier in the DPR account compromised thread...this isn't anything new. The release said he was "Symmetry" when they clearly meant Synergy. I'm sure they attempted to cover it up at first (Vacation story when SSBD was arrested) but the arrest became public and it was speculated amongst us peasants.

It becomes "new" and furthermore, validated...when the captain of the ship, the admin, the owner of the site, and the boss of said admin, validates LE speculation that yes, Synergy = SSBD.
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« Reply #174 on: December 23, 2013, 01:55:48 am »
Welcome to the Magical Mystery Tour....step right this way.....

Will the next DPR.......DPR 3.0      Please stand up, please stand up.....will DPR 3 please stand up?    By the end of the year we might be on DPR 15 or 16 at this rate.

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« Reply #175 on: December 23, 2013, 01:57:13 am »
Sorry guys:

Sorry for what excatly?

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« Reply #176 on: December 23, 2013, 01:57:40 am »
So ive been soaking this stuff up over the last couple days and Im just going to summarise what seems to have happened from what I can understand (all aspects to date).

-SR2 market is NOT compromised by LE. It is still held by DPR2, who is right here with us on the forums.

-Arrests of Inigo, SSBD and Libertas are related to SR1 bust. DPR1 had doxx on these users and he has either given the info up directly (squealed) or indirectly (LE accessing info on his PC).

-DPR1 and other arrested individuals (Libertas and Inigo) also apparently have info on the RL identity of DPR2... therefore DPR2 fears he is about to get snitched up.

-DPR2's disappearance was completely staged, with the knowledge of ChemCat and Cirrus, as an attempt for DPR2 to switch user alias', the purpose of which is supposedly to cover DPR2's tracks in the event that he is fingered. (fairly dubious how much protection this will actually afford him I would have thought?)

-It follows that DPR2 is Defcon and will be DPR3 when Defcon announces successor. (DPR2 = Defcon = DPR3).

-DPR2 is actually a a fairly unsavory character, formerly known on the SR1 forums as StExo. This article is all about StExo and it clearly shows that his sole interest is in hoarding as much wealth as he can lay hands on:
http://weirderweb.com/2013/06/10/ambition-has-no-rest-the-long-education-of-a-silk-road-money-launderer/

So for me this clearly dispells the myth that our DPR2 is some kind of benevolent character who believes in the libertarian, revolutionary idiology that SR1 was originally founded on. I know history has shown Ross Ulbricht made a myriad of idiotic mistakes, but I would say that he set up SR1 for the right reasons. Not just greed.

-The user called 'smoke2joints' who popped up at a very opportune moment to provide evidence that 'Hey.. no.. DPR2 is NOT Defcon and here is a screen grab to prove it... becasue I mysteriously had access to the admin area of the forum...' blah blah  is clearly a puppet account of DPR2.

The sole point of smoke2joints' post was to provide evidence that DPR2 couldn't possibly be Defcon. To me it seems unlikley in the extreme that just one user experienced that glitch in the forum 'last night' and just so happened to grab a picture that proved DPR2 couldnt be Defcon... pfff. Please.

So the posting of that screen grab was just an attempt by DPR2 (I assume) to counter the growing awareness on the forum that DPR2 disappearance is staged and DPR2 = Defcon.

-As a by-the-by, subjecting that screengrab to an online photo forensic ELA test doesn't reveal any photoshopping, but I think the image is too low quality to tell from what I understand..

And that is a complete summary of the situation.

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« Reply #177 on: December 23, 2013, 01:58:30 am »
Yall motherfuckers need to take a step back and take stock. Think back to when you were doing deals in meatspace. Say your guy disappeared for a couple of days without warning. Soon, his brother whom you have never met sends you a text saying shit's cool come by and make a deal, dude's just hauled off to jail for a few but it's cool.

Would you go to that meet?

I know I fucking wouldn't

Shit's sour here. Take the blinders off and accept that things end.

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« Reply #178 on: December 23, 2013, 02:02:00 am »
No, I saw SSBD = Synergy earlier in the DPR account compromised thread...this isn't anything new. The release said he was "Symmetry" when they clearly meant Synergy. I'm sure they attempted to cover it up at first (Vacation story when SSBD was arrested) but the arrest became public and it was speculated amongst us peasants.

Symmetry was an admin on SR1.
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« Reply #179 on: December 23, 2013, 02:03:37 am »
lol, im DPR then?

Why did i have such a hard time getting abatecs vendor privlages suspended then?  Check my post history.

You guys and you consparicy theories.

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« Reply #180 on: December 23, 2013, 02:05:13 am »
So ive been soaking this stuff up over the last couple days and Im just going to summarise what seems to have happened from what I can understand (all aspects to date).

-SR2 market is NOT compromised by LE. It is still held by DPR2, who is right here with us on the forums.

-Arrests of Inigo, SSBD and Libertas are related to SR1 bust. DPR1 had doxx on these users and he has either given the info up directly (squealed) or indirectly (LE accessing info on his PC).

-DPR1 and other arrested individuals (Libertas and Inigo) also apparently have info on the RL identity of DPR2... therefore DPR2 fears he is about to get snitched up.

-DPR2's disappearance was completely staged, with the knowledge of ChemCat and Cirrus, as an attempt for DPR2 to switch user alias', the purpose of which is supposedly to cover DPR2's tracks in the event that he is fingered. (fairly dubious how much protection this will actually afford him I would have thought?)

-It follows that DPR2 is Defcon and will be DPR3 when Defcon announces successor. (DPR2 = Defcon = DPR3).

-DPR2 is actually a a fairly unsavory character, formerly known on the SR1 forums as StExo. This article is all about StExo and it clearly shows that his sole interest is in hoarding as much wealth as he can lay hands on:
http://weirderweb.com/2013/06/10/ambition-has-no-rest-the-long-education-of-a-silk-road-money-launderer/

So for me this clearly dispells the myth that our DPR2 is some kind of benevolent character who believes in the libertarian, revolutionary idiology that SR1 was originally founded on. I know history has shown Ross Ulbricht made a myriad of idiotic mistakes, but I would say that he set up SR1 for the right reasons. Not just greed.

-The user called 'smoke2joints' who popped up at a very opportune moment to provide evidence that 'Hey.. no.. DPR2 is NOT Defcon and here is a screen grab to prove it... becasue I mysteriously had access to the admin area of the forum...' blah blah  is clearly a puppet account of DPR2.

The sole point of smoke2joints' post was to provide evidence that DPR2 couldn't possibly be Defcon. To me it seems unlikley in the extreme that just one user experienced that glitch in the forum 'last night' and just so happened to grab a picture that proved DPR2 couldnt be Defcon... pfff. Please.

So the posting of that screen grab was just an attempt by DPR2 (I assume) to counter the growing awareness on the forum that DPR2 disappearance is staged and DPR2 = Defcon.

-As a by-the-by, subjecting that screengrab to an online photo forensic ELA test doesn't reveal any photoshopping, but I think the image is too low quality to tell from what I understand..

And that is a complete summary of the situation.

You wouldn't need to photoshop the image. You could just right click "Inspect Element" and change the content on the page.

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« Reply #181 on: December 23, 2013, 02:08:36 am »
I'll tell ya one fuckin' thing, I ain't gonna come in here and rub my dick on SR, DPR and then sqawk this and FUDrat that. I've seen some fuckin' traitors on this forum and those fuckers can run off like the weasels they are.

I will remind every one of you that sending your info to a mod or another forum user is a serious drop in opsec. Vendors should be the only parties with any encrypted info.

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« Reply #182 on: December 23, 2013, 02:11:27 am »
lol, im DPR then?

Why did i have such a hard time getting abatecs vendor privlages suspended then?  Check my post history.

You guys and you consparicy theories.

Well I just find it so hard to believe that you were the only person to experience that glitch, and according to you, you took the perfect screen grab that proved beyond doubt that DPR2 couldnt possibly be Defcon... BEFORE it was implied on the forum that DPR2 and Defcon were the same person...

Come on... too convenient. Did you just take that one screen grab or did you grab more?
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« Reply #183 on: December 23, 2013, 02:13:42 am »
By the way, in your opinion how did that screengrab prove that DPR2=/=Defcon anyway?

Can you explain that to me please?

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« Reply #184 on: December 23, 2013, 02:15:52 am »
I'm also DPR.  We've both been running these accounts at the same time to spread lies and deceipt!  OH MY!!!!!!!

Honestly, this whole thing is just a total WTF.  Everyone should just shut the fuck up and let it all play out like it's supposed to.  There's a lot going on at the moment, and there are some things set into motion here.  We will know soon enough, obviously. 

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« Reply #185 on: December 23, 2013, 02:16:05 am »
Guys. Don't believe anything until Defcon posts again.
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« Reply #186 on: December 23, 2013, 02:18:00 am »
lol some of you are as bad as conspiracy theorists. confusing their personal opinions with fact
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« Reply #187 on: December 23, 2013, 02:19:57 am »
My head hurts...

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« Reply #188 on: December 23, 2013, 02:21:50 am »
By the way, in your opinion how did that screengrab prove that DPR2=/=Defcon anyway?

Can you explain that to me please?

I took more screenshots of multiple areas, but im not going to post anything with confidential info.  Someone is already spaming the link i posted and they dont need more ammo.

The screen grab doesnt prove anything other than i had access to areas i shouldnt have.  I never said "without a doubt" or claimed to have definitive proof of anything.  Re-read my posts.

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« Reply #189 on: December 23, 2013, 02:22:45 am »
Could you share just a little bit more that doesn't show any confidential information?

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« Reply #190 on: December 23, 2013, 02:23:11 am »
Readiness condition   Exercise term   Description   Readiness   Color
DEFCON 1   COCKED PISTOL   Nuclear war is imminent   Maximum readiness        White
DEFCON 2   FAST PACE   Next step to nuclear war   Armed Forces ready to deploy and engage in less than 6 hours        Red
DEFCON 3   ROUND HOUSE   Increase in force readiness above that required for normal readiness   Air Force ready to mobilize in 15 minutes        Yellow
DEFCON 4   DOUBLE TAKE   Increased intelligence watch and strengthened security measures   Above normal readiness        Green
DEFCON 5   FADE OUT   Lowest state of readiness   Normal readiness        Blue
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« Reply #191 on: December 23, 2013, 02:24:41 am »
Id say we are at DEFCOM 3!
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« Reply #192 on: December 23, 2013, 02:29:25 am »
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« Reply #193 on: December 23, 2013, 03:28:31 am »
....this is getting very fucking boring....good nite........peace!
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« Reply #194 on: December 23, 2013, 03:34:20 am »
Guys. Don't believe anything until Defcon posts again.

Dude, at this point....FUCK DEFCON. Are you really this fucking blind?

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« Reply #195 on: December 23, 2013, 03:39:25 am »
Guys. Don't believe anything until Defcon posts again.

Dude, at this point....FUCK DEFCON. Are you really this fucking blind?

Yeahh somethings not rite here, dont belive anything even when defcon posts it

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« Reply #196 on: December 23, 2013, 03:53:31 am »
DPR2 = StExo = Defcon?

shit gets crazier by the minute
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« Reply #197 on: December 23, 2013, 03:54:41 am »
Guys. Don't believe anything until Defcon posts again.

Dude, at this point....FUCK DEFCON. Are you really this fucking blind?

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« Reply #198 on: December 23, 2013, 03:58:04 am »
Can't wait to see a movie based on these event

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« Reply #199 on: December 23, 2013, 03:58:59 am »
DPR2 = StExo = Defcon?

shit gets crazier by the minute

The link to StExo was made clear by others in the thread prior to this one.

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« Reply #200 on: December 23, 2013, 04:07:33 am »
Guys. Don't believe anything until Defcon posts again.

Dude, at this point....FUCK DEFCON. Are you really this fucking blind?

Nice boobies :| made me forget about the issue at hand for a sec thank you

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« Reply #201 on: December 23, 2013, 04:10:51 am »
Guys. Don't believe anything until Defcon posts again.

Dude, at this point....FUCK DEFCON. Are you really this fucking blind?

Nice boobies :| made me forget about the issue at hand for a sec thank you

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« Reply #202 on: December 23, 2013, 04:16:20 am »
Here... this will make you people feel better..

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« Reply #203 on: December 23, 2013, 04:17:04 am »
FWIW, DPR was planning the exit from the moment the arrests happened.

Astonishingly, he took the time to PM me that he wouldn't be around to help on the book any more and to strap in for a "very rough ride"


This information might need a sticky Oz. That sheds some light on the situation and if he left for his own safety that's fine, as long as he left some kind of contingency plan which apparently does exist. Let's all hold our breath and see what happens over the break.

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« Reply #204 on: December 23, 2013, 04:26:03 am »
think about the name too, "Defcon", an account only to be used for when shit hits the fan?

all theories and conjecture of course, and TBH if a DPR3.0 was to rise I'd probably follow him/her to a new market, and most of you would if you'll be honest with yourselves
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« Reply #205 on: December 23, 2013, 04:59:17 am »
I just wanted to post to say I don't know anything.



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Re: Contingency Plan
« Reply #206 on: December 23, 2013, 05:32:31 am »
Y'all first need to slow down. Defcon is obviously not DPR2. Read his post history they are a different person.

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« Reply #207 on: December 23, 2013, 05:42:14 am »
So ive been soaking this stuff up over the last couple days and Im just going to summarise what seems to have happened from what I can understand (all aspects to date).

-SR2 market is NOT compromised by LE. It is still held by DPR2, who is right here with us on the forums.

-Arrests of Inigo, SSBD and Libertas are related to SR1 bust. DPR1 had doxx on these users and he has either given the info up directly (squealed) or indirectly (LE accessing info on his PC).

-DPR1 and other arrested individuals (Libertas and Inigo) also apparently have info on the RL identity of DPR2... therefore DPR2 fears he is about to get snitched up.

-DPR2's disappearance was completely staged, with the knowledge of ChemCat and Cirrus, as an attempt for DPR2 to switch user alias', the purpose of which is supposedly to cover DPR2's tracks in the event that he is fingered. (fairly dubious how much protection this will actually afford him I would have thought?)

-It follows that DPR2 is Defcon and will be DPR3 when Defcon announces successor. (DPR2 = Defcon = DPR3).

-DPR2 is actually a a fairly unsavory character, formerly known on the SR1 forums as StExo. This article is all about StExo and it clearly shows that his sole interest is in hoarding as much wealth as he can lay hands on:
http://weirderweb.com/2013/06/10/ambition-has-no-rest-the-long-education-of-a-silk-road-money-launderer/

So for me this clearly dispells the myth that our DPR2 is some kind of benevolent character who believes in the libertarian, revolutionary idiology that SR1 was originally founded on. I know history has shown Ross Ulbricht made a myriad of idiotic mistakes, but I would say that he set up SR1 for the right reasons. Not just greed.

-The user called 'smoke2joints' who popped up at a very opportune moment to provide evidence that 'Hey.. no.. DPR2 is NOT Defcon and here is a screen grab to prove it... becasue I mysteriously had access to the admin area of the forum...' blah blah  is clearly a puppet account of DPR2.

The sole point of smoke2joints' post was to provide evidence that DPR2 couldn't possibly be Defcon. To me it seems unlikley in the extreme that just one user experienced that glitch in the forum 'last night' and just so happened to grab a picture that proved DPR2 couldnt be Defcon... pfff. Please.

So the posting of that screen grab was just an attempt by DPR2 (I assume) to counter the growing awareness on the forum that DPR2 disappearance is staged and DPR2 = Defcon.

-As a by-the-by, subjecting that screengrab to an online photo forensic ELA test doesn't reveal any photoshopping, but I think the image is too low quality to tell from what I understand..

And that is a complete summary of the situation.

And bingo was his name-o. And if this farce continues, I'm going to post real, solid evidence (screen shots, VIDEO screen grabs of me decrypting messages etc) that will put this matter to rest. No fucking way am I going to let this community be misled by an individual who, whilst is NOT LE (or compromised by LE as of this moment) is ridiculous and actually thinks people are so fucking retarded that Defcon/DPR3/"leaked mod board screen grab" will fool anyone. The point is this, Ross Ulbright (and the 3 arrested indivuals) KNOW who was behind SR2. And SR2 was NOT designed to be a fraud or a runner. I'm certain of this for a few reasons, most notably Cirrus' involvement whom I know to be absolutely well intentioned.
However, the playing field is changed

1) RU is talking/pleading out
2) Libertas/Inigo/SSBD have all been busted unfortunately, and they know who was behind SR2.

For a moment, if you think that any of the above mentioend 4 people are going to do life in prison to protect a stranger whom they all personally didn't even like THAT much (I know this again for a fact, and if push comes to shove, I will, I repeat, WILL post irrefutable evidence that 2 of the above personally had a "eye rolling" attitude towards DPR2.

That said, this Defcon farce (which it is) is absolutely insulting. In fact, read his language. "You know who you are and you knwo what to do" sounds EERILY SIMILAR TO A POST made on Oct 2nd 2013 on SR1 Forums by an individual who posted (to DPR) ".. you know where to find me and you know what needs to be done, contact me" (paraphrased).

Mr. Defcon - please do NOT take this route. I don't want to open a can of worms.. but if it means jeopardizing this entire community and painting a picture of all is well in paradise when thats NOT the case, I will not let that happen. As to Cirrus - I URGE YOU (since we both know you know nearly all of the facts, and I've even shown you logs and whatnot months ago and you know VERY well I'm not inventing anything) to talk sense into him and I urge you to do what's right for the community.

My hunch is that in the end, Cirrus will do the right thing and realize the situation for what it is and will lay it on the table for all (to the extent that nobody is "doxxed") and then, ONLY THEN, should everyone make a decision wether they want to continue to use SR.

If I'm wrong then I will absolutely, unequivocally blow the lid and then you will all make adult decisions on wether you think it will be wise to continue.

Well, Defcon? Well, Cirrus? Well, DPR..3?
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Re: Contingency Plan
« Reply #208 on: December 23, 2013, 05:44:26 am »
By the way, in your opinion how did that screengrab prove that DPR2=/=Defcon anyway?

Can you explain that to me please?

I took more screenshots of multiple areas, but im not going to post anything with confidential info.  Someone is already spaming the link i posted and they dont need more ammo.

The screen grab doesnt prove anything other than i had access to areas i shouldnt have.  I never said "without a doubt" or claimed to have definitive proof of anything.  Re-read my posts.

No. Your purpose was to give credence to "Defcon" being real. If we want to play the screen shot game.. we'll play the screen shot game. And I'll play the VIDEO GRAB game.. where you see me decrypting messages from both DPR1 and DPR2 (and others).. that should lay everything on the table.
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« Reply #209 on: December 23, 2013, 05:44:32 am »
So ive been soaking this stuff up over the last couple days and Im just going to summarise what seems to have happened from what I can understand (all aspects to date).

-SR2 market is NOT compromised by LE. It is still held by DPR2, who is right here with us on the forums.

-Arrests of Inigo, SSBD and Libertas are related to SR1 bust. DPR1 had doxx on these users and he has either given the info up directly (squealed) or indirectly (LE accessing info on his PC).

-DPR1 and other arrested individuals (Libertas and Inigo) also apparently have info on the RL identity of DPR2... therefore DPR2 fears he is about to get snitched up.

-DPR2's disappearance was completely staged, with the knowledge of ChemCat and Cirrus, as an attempt for DPR2 to switch user alias', the purpose of which is supposedly to cover DPR2's tracks in the event that he is fingered. (fairly dubious how much protection this will actually afford him I would have thought?)

-It follows that DPR2 is Defcon and will be DPR3 when Defcon announces successor. (DPR2 = Defcon = DPR3).

-DPR2 is actually a a fairly unsavory character, formerly known on the SR1 forums as StExo. This article is all about StExo and it clearly shows that his sole interest is in hoarding as much wealth as he can lay hands on:
http://weirderweb.com/2013/06/10/ambition-has-no-rest-the-long-education-of-a-silk-road-money-launderer/

So for me this clearly dispells the myth that our DPR2 is some kind of benevolent character who believes in the libertarian, revolutionary idiology that SR1 was originally founded on. I know history has shown Ross Ulbricht made a myriad of idiotic mistakes, but I would say that he set up SR1 for the right reasons. Not just greed.

-The user called 'smoke2joints' who popped up at a very opportune moment to provide evidence that 'Hey.. no.. DPR2 is NOT Defcon and here is a screen grab to prove it... becasue I mysteriously had access to the admin area of the forum...' blah blah  is clearly a puppet account of DPR2.

The sole point of smoke2joints' post was to provide evidence that DPR2 couldn't possibly be Defcon. To me it seems unlikley in the extreme that just one user experienced that glitch in the forum 'last night' and just so happened to grab a picture that proved DPR2 couldnt be Defcon... pfff. Please.

So the posting of that screen grab was just an attempt by DPR2 (I assume) to counter the growing awareness on the forum that DPR2 disappearance is staged and DPR2 = Defcon.

-As a by-the-by, subjecting that screengrab to an online photo forensic ELA test doesn't reveal any photoshopping, but I think the image is too low quality to tell from what I understand..

And that is a complete summary of the situation.

And bingo was his name-o. And if this farce continues, I'm going to post real, solid evidence (screen shots, VIDEO screen grabs of me decrypting messages etc) that will put this matter to rest. No fucking way am I going to let this community be misled by an individual who, whilst is NOT LE (or compromised by LE as of this moment) is ridiculous and actually thinks people are so fucking retarded that Defcon/DPR3/"leaked mod board screen grab" will fool anyone. The point is this, Ross Ulbright (and the 3 arrested indivuals) KNOW who was behind SR2. And SR2 was NOT designed to be a fraud or a runner. I'm certain of this for a few reasons, most notably Cirrus' involvement whom I know to be absolutely well intentioned.
However, the playing field is changed

1) RU is talking/pleading out
2) Libertas/Inigo/SSBD have all been busted unfortunately, and they know who was behind SR2.

For a moment, if you think that any of the above mentioend 4 people are going to do life in prison to protect a stranger whom they all personally didn't even like THAT much (I know this again for a fact, and if push comes to shove, I will, I repeat, WILL post irrefutable evidence that 2 of the above personally had a "eye rolling" attitude towards DPR2.

That said, this Defcon farce (which it is) is absolutely insulting. In fact, read his language. "You know who you are and you knwo what to do" sounds EERILY SIMILAR TO A POST made on Oct 2nd 2013 on SR1 Forums by an individual who posted (to DPR) ".. you know where to find me and you know what needs to be done, contact me" (paraphrased).

Mr. Defcon - please do NOT take this route. I don't want to open a can of worms.. but if it means jeopardizing this entire community and painting a picture of all is well in paradise when thats NOT the case, I will not let that happen. As to Cirrus - I URGE YOU (since we both know you know nearly all of the facts, and I've even shown you logs and whatnot months ago and you know VERY well I'm not inventing anything) to talk sense into him and I urge you to do what's right for the community.

My hunch is that in the end, Cirrus will do the right thing and realize the situation for what it is and will lay it on the table for all (to the extent that nobody is "doxxed") and then, ONLY THEN, should everyone make a decision wether they want to continue to use SR.

If I'm wrong then I will absolutely, unequivocally blow the lid and then you will all make adult decisions on wether you think it will be wise to continue.

Well, Defcon? Well, Cirrus? Well, DPR..3?
Can you please post some of this evidence you've been talking about for quite a while?

It seems pretty weird you have all this.  You seem like a major security risk to the site yourself by logging all of this aswell. 
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« Reply #210 on: December 23, 2013, 05:47:40 am »
So ive been soaking this stuff up over the last couple days and Im just going to summarise what seems to have happened from what I can understand (all aspects to date).

-SR2 market is NOT compromised by LE. It is still held by DPR2, who is right here with us on the forums.

-Arrests of Inigo, SSBD and Libertas are related to SR1 bust. DPR1 had doxx on these users and he has either given the info up directly (squealed) or indirectly (LE accessing info on his PC).

-DPR1 and other arrested individuals (Libertas and Inigo) also apparently have info on the RL identity of DPR2... therefore DPR2 fears he is about to get snitched up.

-DPR2's disappearance was completely staged, with the knowledge of ChemCat and Cirrus, as an attempt for DPR2 to switch user alias', the purpose of which is supposedly to cover DPR2's tracks in the event that he is fingered. (fairly dubious how much protection this will actually afford him I would have thought?)

-It follows that DPR2 is Defcon and will be DPR3 when Defcon announces successor. (DPR2 = Defcon = DPR3).

-DPR2 is actually a a fairly unsavory character, formerly known on the SR1 forums as StExo. This article is all about StExo and it clearly shows that his sole interest is in hoarding as much wealth as he can lay hands on:
http://weirderweb.com/2013/06/10/ambition-has-no-rest-the-long-education-of-a-silk-road-money-launderer/

So for me this clearly dispells the myth that our DPR2 is some kind of benevolent character who believes in the libertarian, revolutionary idiology that SR1 was originally founded on. I know history has shown Ross Ulbricht made a myriad of idiotic mistakes, but I would say that he set up SR1 for the right reasons. Not just greed.

-The user called 'smoke2joints' who popped up at a very opportune moment to provide evidence that 'Hey.. no.. DPR2 is NOT Defcon and here is a screen grab to prove it... becasue I mysteriously had access to the admin area of the forum...' blah blah  is clearly a puppet account of DPR2.

The sole point of smoke2joints' post was to provide evidence that DPR2 couldn't possibly be Defcon. To me it seems unlikley in the extreme that just one user experienced that glitch in the forum 'last night' and just so happened to grab a picture that proved DPR2 couldnt be Defcon... pfff. Please.

So the posting of that screen grab was just an attempt by DPR2 (I assume) to counter the growing awareness on the forum that DPR2 disappearance is staged and DPR2 = Defcon.

-As a by-the-by, subjecting that screengrab to an online photo forensic ELA test doesn't reveal any photoshopping, but I think the image is too low quality to tell from what I understand..

And that is a complete summary of the situation.

And bingo was his name-o. And if this farce continues, I'm going to post real, solid evidence (screen shots, VIDEO screen grabs of me decrypting messages etc) that will put this matter to rest. No fucking way am I going to let this community be misled by an individual who, whilst is NOT LE (or compromised by LE as of this moment) is ridiculous and actually thinks people are so fucking retarded that Defcon/DPR3/"leaked mod board screen grab" will fool anyone. The point is this, Ross Ulbright (and the 3 arrested indivuals) KNOW who was behind SR2. And SR2 was NOT designed to be a fraud or a runner. I'm certain of this for a few reasons, most notably Cirrus' involvement whom I know to be absolutely well intentioned.
However, the playing field is changed

1) RU is talking/pleading out
2) Libertas/Inigo/SSBD have all been busted unfortunately, and they know who was behind SR2.

For a moment, if you think that any of the above mentioend 4 people are going to do life in prison to protect a stranger whom they all personally didn't even like THAT much (I know this again for a fact, and if push comes to shove, I will, I repeat, WILL post irrefutable evidence that 2 of the above personally had a "eye rolling" attitude towards DPR2.

That said, this Defcon farce (which it is) is absolutely insulting. In fact, read his language. "You know who you are and you knwo what to do" sounds EERILY SIMILAR TO A POST made on Oct 2nd 2013 on SR1 Forums by an individual who posted (to DPR) ".. you know where to find me and you know what needs to be done, contact me" (paraphrased).

Mr. Defcon - please do NOT take this route. I don't want to open a can of worms.. but if it means jeopardizing this entire community and painting a picture of all is well in paradise when thats NOT the case, I will not let that happen. As to Cirrus - I URGE YOU (since we both know you know nearly all of the facts, and I've even shown you logs and whatnot months ago and you know VERY well I'm not inventing anything) to talk sense into him and I urge you to do what's right for the community.

My hunch is that in the end, Cirrus will do the right thing and realize the situation for what it is and will lay it on the table for all (to the extent that nobody is "doxxed") and then, ONLY THEN, should everyone make a decision wether they want to continue to use SR.

If I'm wrong then I will absolutely, unequivocally blow the lid and then you will all make adult decisions on wether you think it will be wise to continue.

Well, Defcon? Well, Cirrus? Well, DPR..3?
Can you please post some of this evidence you've been talking about for quite a while?

Out of respect for Cirrus, who's seen logs and knows I'm not a bullshitter, I will do so if he agrees. Otherwise, I will urge him to post and say/do the right thing. I will bet my life this guy (Cirrus) is not going to partake in knowingly putting everyone at risk. He knows the EXACT chain of events, and he knows about events going back nearly half a year. He knows I know. DPR2 knew I knew as well. So this shit just is not going to fly while I'm here.
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Re: Contingency Plan
« Reply #211 on: December 23, 2013, 05:49:02 am »
So ive been soaking this stuff up over the last couple days and Im just going to summarise what seems to have happened from what I can understand (all aspects to date).

-SR2 market is NOT compromised by LE. It is still held by DPR2, who is right here with us on the forums.

-Arrests of Inigo, SSBD and Libertas are related to SR1 bust. DPR1 had doxx on these users and he has either given the info up directly (squealed) or indirectly (LE accessing info on his PC).

-DPR1 and other arrested individuals (Libertas and Inigo) also apparently have info on the RL identity of DPR2... therefore DPR2 fears he is about to get snitched up.

-DPR2's disappearance was completely staged, with the knowledge of ChemCat and Cirrus, as an attempt for DPR2 to switch user alias', the purpose of which is supposedly to cover DPR2's tracks in the event that he is fingered. (fairly dubious how much protection this will actually afford him I would have thought?)

-It follows that DPR2 is Defcon and will be DPR3 when Defcon announces successor. (DPR2 = Defcon = DPR3).

-DPR2 is actually a a fairly unsavory character, formerly known on the SR1 forums as StExo. This article is all about StExo and it clearly shows that his sole interest is in hoarding as much wealth as he can lay hands on:
http://weirderweb.com/2013/06/10/ambition-has-no-rest-the-long-education-of-a-silk-road-money-launderer/

So for me this clearly dispells the myth that our DPR2 is some kind of benevolent character who believes in the libertarian, revolutionary idiology that SR1 was originally founded on. I know history has shown Ross Ulbricht made a myriad of idiotic mistakes, but I would say that he set up SR1 for the right reasons. Not just greed.

-The user called 'smoke2joints' who popped up at a very opportune moment to provide evidence that 'Hey.. no.. DPR2 is NOT Defcon and here is a screen grab to prove it... becasue I mysteriously had access to the admin area of the forum...' blah blah  is clearly a puppet account of DPR2.

The sole point of smoke2joints' post was to provide evidence that DPR2 couldn't possibly be Defcon. To me it seems unlikley in the extreme that just one user experienced that glitch in the forum 'last night' and just so happened to grab a picture that proved DPR2 couldnt be Defcon... pfff. Please.

So the posting of that screen grab was just an attempt by DPR2 (I assume) to counter the growing awareness on the forum that DPR2 disappearance is staged and DPR2 = Defcon.

-As a by-the-by, subjecting that screengrab to an online photo forensic ELA test doesn't reveal any photoshopping, but I think the image is too low quality to tell from what I understand..

And that is a complete summary of the situation.

And bingo was his name-o. And if this farce continues, I'm going to post real, solid evidence (screen shots, VIDEO screen grabs of me decrypting messages etc) that will put this matter to rest. No fucking way am I going to let this community be misled by an individual who, whilst is NOT LE (or compromised by LE as of this moment) is ridiculous and actually thinks people are so fucking retarded that Defcon/DPR3/"leaked mod board screen grab" will fool anyone. The point is this, Ross Ulbright (and the 3 arrested indivuals) KNOW who was behind SR2. And SR2 was NOT designed to be a fraud or a runner. I'm certain of this for a few reasons, most notably Cirrus' involvement whom I know to be absolutely well intentioned.
However, the playing field is changed

1) RU is talking/pleading out
2) Libertas/Inigo/SSBD have all been busted unfortunately, and they know who was behind SR2.

For a moment, if you think that any of the above mentioend 4 people are going to do life in prison to protect a stranger whom they all personally didn't even like THAT much (I know this again for a fact, and if push comes to shove, I will, I repeat, WILL post irrefutable evidence that 2 of the above personally had a "eye rolling" attitude towards DPR2.

That said, this Defcon farce (which it is) is absolutely insulting. In fact, read his language. "You know who you are and you knwo what to do" sounds EERILY SIMILAR TO A POST made on Oct 2nd 2013 on SR1 Forums by an individual who posted (to DPR) ".. you know where to find me and you know what needs to be done, contact me" (paraphrased).

Mr. Defcon - please do NOT take this route. I don't want to open a can of worms.. but if it means jeopardizing this entire community and painting a picture of all is well in paradise when thats NOT the case, I will not let that happen. As to Cirrus - I URGE YOU (since we both know you know nearly all of the facts, and I've even shown you logs and whatnot months ago and you know VERY well I'm not inventing anything) to talk sense into him and I urge you to do what's right for the community.

My hunch is that in the end, Cirrus will do the right thing and realize the situation for what it is and will lay it on the table for all (to the extent that nobody is "doxxed") and then, ONLY THEN, should everyone make a decision wether they want to continue to use SR.

If I'm wrong then I will absolutely, unequivocally blow the lid and then you will all make adult decisions on wether you think it will be wise to continue.

Well, Defcon? Well, Cirrus? Well, DPR..3?
Can you please post some of this evidence you've been talking about for quite a while?

It seems pretty weird you have all this.  You seem like a major security risk to the site yourself by logging all of this aswell.

That's a different story. And I'm the FARTHEST thing to a security risk to the site. I will defer my credibility to Cirrus.
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« Reply #212 on: December 23, 2013, 05:49:23 am »
How is this putting people at risk?

SR isn't in charge of people's security. Anybody who relies on a marketplaces security soley is an idiot.  Everyone needs to learn to be accountable for their own security and stop pointing fingers.
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« Reply #213 on: December 23, 2013, 05:55:37 am »
So ive been soaking this stuff up over the last couple days and Im just going to summarise what seems to have happened from what I can understand (all aspects to date).

-SR2 market is NOT compromised by LE. It is still held by DPR2, who is right here with us on the forums.

-Arrests of Inigo, SSBD and Libertas are related to SR1 bust. DPR1 had doxx on these users and he has either given the info up directly (squealed) or indirectly (LE accessing info on his PC).

-DPR1 and other arrested individuals (Libertas and Inigo) also apparently have info on the RL identity of DPR2... therefore DPR2 fears he is about to get snitched up.

-DPR2's disappearance was completely staged, with the knowledge of ChemCat and Cirrus, as an attempt for DPR2 to switch user alias', the purpose of which is supposedly to cover DPR2's tracks in the event that he is fingered. (fairly dubious how much protection this will actually afford him I would have thought?)

-It follows that DPR2 is Defcon and will be DPR3 when Defcon announces successor. (DPR2 = Defcon = DPR3).

-DPR2 is actually a a fairly unsavory character, formerly known on the SR1 forums as StExo. This article is all about StExo and it clearly shows that his sole interest is in hoarding as much wealth as he can lay hands on:
http://weirderweb.com/2013/06/10/ambition-has-no-rest-the-long-education-of-a-silk-road-money-launderer/

So for me this clearly dispells the myth that our DPR2 is some kind of benevolent character who believes in the libertarian, revolutionary idiology that SR1 was originally founded on. I know history has shown Ross Ulbricht made a myriad of idiotic mistakes, but I would say that he set up SR1 for the right reasons. Not just greed.

-The user called 'smoke2joints' who popped up at a very opportune moment to provide evidence that 'Hey.. no.. DPR2 is NOT Defcon and here is a screen grab to prove it... becasue I mysteriously had access to the admin area of the forum...' blah blah  is clearly a puppet account of DPR2.

The sole point of smoke2joints' post was to provide evidence that DPR2 couldn't possibly be Defcon. To me it seems unlikley in the extreme that just one user experienced that glitch in the forum 'last night' and just so happened to grab a picture that proved DPR2 couldnt be Defcon... pfff. Please.

So the posting of that screen grab was just an attempt by DPR2 (I assume) to counter the growing awareness on the forum that DPR2 disappearance is staged and DPR2 = Defcon.

-As a by-the-by, subjecting that screengrab to an online photo forensic ELA test doesn't reveal any photoshopping, but I think the image is too low quality to tell from what I understand..

And that is a complete summary of the situation.

And bingo was his name-o. And if this farce continues, I'm going to post real, solid evidence (screen shots, VIDEO screen grabs of me decrypting messages etc) that will put this matter to rest. No fucking way am I going to let this community be misled by an individual who, whilst is NOT LE (or compromised by LE as of this moment) is ridiculous and actually thinks people are so fucking retarded that Defcon/DPR3/"leaked mod board screen grab" will fool anyone. The point is this, Ross Ulbright (and the 3 arrested indivuals) KNOW who was behind SR2. And SR2 was NOT designed to be a fraud or a runner. I'm certain of this for a few reasons, most notably Cirrus' involvement whom I know to be absolutely well intentioned.
However, the playing field is changed

1) RU is talking/pleading out
2) Libertas/Inigo/SSBD have all been busted unfortunately, and they know who was behind SR2.

For a moment, if you think that any of the above mentioend 4 people are going to do life in prison to protect a stranger whom they all personally didn't even like THAT much (I know this again for a fact, and if push comes to shove, I will, I repeat, WILL post irrefutable evidence that 2 of the above personally had a "eye rolling" attitude towards DPR2.

That said, this Defcon farce (which it is) is absolutely insulting. In fact, read his language. "You know who you are and you knwo what to do" sounds EERILY SIMILAR TO A POST made on Oct 2nd 2013 on SR1 Forums by an individual who posted (to DPR) ".. you know where to find me and you know what needs to be done, contact me" (paraphrased).

Mr. Defcon - please do NOT take this route. I don't want to open a can of worms.. but if it means jeopardizing this entire community and painting a picture of all is well in paradise when thats NOT the case, I will not let that happen. As to Cirrus - I URGE YOU (since we both know you know nearly all of the facts, and I've even shown you logs and whatnot months ago and you know VERY well I'm not inventing anything) to talk sense into him and I urge you to do what's right for the community.

My hunch is that in the end, Cirrus will do the right thing and realize the situation for what it is and will lay it on the table for all (to the extent that nobody is "doxxed") and then, ONLY THEN, should everyone make a decision wether they want to continue to use SR.

If I'm wrong then I will absolutely, unequivocally blow the lid and then you will all make adult decisions on wether you think it will be wise to continue.

Well, Defcon? Well, Cirrus? Well, DPR..3?
Can you please post some of this evidence you've been talking about for quite a while?

Seems like a lot of FUD and LEO trying to fuck with the mods but he's obviously important enough to be of intrest to DPR (http://silkroad5v7dywlc/index.php?topic=233.0)
Maybe a hacker trying to blackmail SR admins?
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« Reply #214 on: December 23, 2013, 06:09:33 am »
So ive been soaking this stuff up over the last couple days and Im just going to summarise what seems to have happened from what I can understand (all aspects to date).

-SR2 market is NOT compromised by LE. It is still held by DPR2, who is right here with us on the forums.

-Arrests of Inigo, SSBD and Libertas are related to SR1 bust. DPR1 had doxx on these users and he has either given the info up directly (squealed) or indirectly (LE accessing info on his PC).

-DPR1 and other arrested individuals (Libertas and Inigo) also apparently have info on the RL identity of DPR2... therefore DPR2 fears he is about to get snitched up.

-DPR2's disappearance was completely staged, with the knowledge of ChemCat and Cirrus, as an attempt for DPR2 to switch user alias', the purpose of which is supposedly to cover DPR2's tracks in the event that he is fingered. (fairly dubious how much protection this will actually afford him I would have thought?)

-It follows that DPR2 is Defcon and will be DPR3 when Defcon announces successor. (DPR2 = Defcon = DPR3).

-DPR2 is actually a a fairly unsavory character, formerly known on the SR1 forums as StExo. This article is all about StExo and it clearly shows that his sole interest is in hoarding as much wealth as he can lay hands on:
http://weirderweb.com/2013/06/10/ambition-has-no-rest-the-long-education-of-a-silk-road-money-launderer/

So for me this clearly dispells the myth that our DPR2 is some kind of benevolent character who believes in the libertarian, revolutionary idiology that SR1 was originally founded on. I know history has shown Ross Ulbricht made a myriad of idiotic mistakes, but I would say that he set up SR1 for the right reasons. Not just greed.

-The user called 'smoke2joints' who popped up at a very opportune moment to provide evidence that 'Hey.. no.. DPR2 is NOT Defcon and here is a screen grab to prove it... becasue I mysteriously had access to the admin area of the forum...' blah blah  is clearly a puppet account of DPR2.

The sole point of smoke2joints' post was to provide evidence that DPR2 couldn't possibly be Defcon. To me it seems unlikley in the extreme that just one user experienced that glitch in the forum 'last night' and just so happened to grab a picture that proved DPR2 couldnt be Defcon... pfff. Please.

So the posting of that screen grab was just an attempt by DPR2 (I assume) to counter the growing awareness on the forum that DPR2 disappearance is staged and DPR2 = Defcon.

-As a by-the-by, subjecting that screengrab to an online photo forensic ELA test doesn't reveal any photoshopping, but I think the image is too low quality to tell from what I understand..

And that is a complete summary of the situation.

And bingo was his name-o. And if this farce continues, I'm going to post real, solid evidence (screen shots, VIDEO screen grabs of me decrypting messages etc) that will put this matter to rest. No fucking way am I going to let this community be misled by an individual who, whilst is NOT LE (or compromised by LE as of this moment) is ridiculous and actually thinks people are so fucking retarded that Defcon/DPR3/"leaked mod board screen grab" will fool anyone. The point is this, Ross Ulbright (and the 3 arrested indivuals) KNOW who was behind SR2. And SR2 was NOT designed to be a fraud or a runner. I'm certain of this for a few reasons, most notably Cirrus' involvement whom I know to be absolutely well intentioned.
However, the playing field is changed

1) RU is talking/pleading out
2) Libertas/Inigo/SSBD have all been busted unfortunately, and they know who was behind SR2.

For a moment, if you think that any of the above mentioend 4 people are going to do life in prison to protect a stranger whom they all personally didn't even like THAT much (I know this again for a fact, and if push comes to shove, I will, I repeat, WILL post irrefutable evidence that 2 of the above personally had a "eye rolling" attitude towards DPR2.

That said, this Defcon farce (which it is) is absolutely insulting. In fact, read his language. "You know who you are and you knwo what to do" sounds EERILY SIMILAR TO A POST made on Oct 2nd 2013 on SR1 Forums by an individual who posted (to DPR) ".. you know where to find me and you know what needs to be done, contact me" (paraphrased).

Mr. Defcon - please do NOT take this route. I don't want to open a can of worms.. but if it means jeopardizing this entire community and painting a picture of all is well in paradise when thats NOT the case, I will not let that happen. As to Cirrus - I URGE YOU (since we both know you know nearly all of the facts, and I've even shown you logs and whatnot months ago and you know VERY well I'm not inventing anything) to talk sense into him and I urge you to do what's right for the community.

My hunch is that in the end, Cirrus will do the right thing and realize the situation for what it is and will lay it on the table for all (to the extent that nobody is "doxxed") and then, ONLY THEN, should everyone make a decision wether they want to continue to use SR.

If I'm wrong then I will absolutely, unequivocally blow the lid and then you will all make adult decisions on wether you think it will be wise to continue.

Well, Defcon? Well, Cirrus? Well, DPR..3?
Can you please post some of this evidence you've been talking about for quite a while?

Seems like a lot of FUD and LEO trying to fuck with the mods but he's obviously important enough to be of intrest to DPR (http://silkroad5v7dywlc/index.php?topic=233.0)
Maybe a hacker trying to blackmail SR admins?

No sir. No FUD, no intentions of blackmail, no LEO. This is purely me footing my foot down when I should have been firmer back the first week of October. October was different. But now that RU is plea-ing out, and Lib/SSBD/Inigo are nailed.. it would be SUICIDE to go down this path that "Defcon" (and I type that with utter contempt) is trying to initiate. If it's FUD, if a *WORD* of ANYTHING I've said is FUD.. then Cirrus will certainly point it out. However, I request and urge Cirrus again, to post and aknowledge what I've said and that my concerns are valid and I'm NOT a bullshitter. I'm putting this on his integrity and conscience. He knows the truth, and he knows truths and skeletons that go back way before SR2 existed. If Cirrus says I'm full of shit and I have no idea what I'm saying and I'm making everything up and I'm just trying to create FUD for some sick kicks/giggles, then I will back down.
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« Reply #215 on: December 23, 2013, 06:30:20 am »
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« Reply #216 on: December 23, 2013, 06:31:48 am »
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 I'm going to post real, solid evidence (screen shots, VIDEO screen grabs of me decrypting messages etc) that will put this matter to rest.
..............................


@oracle: I'm pretty sure that you told us last night(?), that you're really sorry that you CANNOT prove your words with exactly these things (VIDEO screen grabs of me decrypting messages..), am I not right?
Now you find it under your unwashed pants and socks?
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« Reply #217 on: December 23, 2013, 06:34:03 am »
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 I'm going to post real, solid evidence (screen shots, VIDEO screen grabs of me decrypting messages etc) that will put this matter to rest.
..............................


@oracle: I'm pretty sure that you told us last night(?), that you're really sorry that you CANNOT prove your words with exactly these things (VIDEO screen grabs of me decrypting messages..), am I not right?
Now you find it under your unwashed pants and socks?
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It's not that simple. I'm not going to put anyone in LE's line of fire, so it's a tightrope. On the other hand, I will not allow a farce to commense.
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« Reply #218 on: December 23, 2013, 06:36:05 am »
No sir. No FUD, no intentions of blackmail, no LEO. This is purely me footing my foot down when I should have been firmer back the first week of October. October was different. But now that RU is plea-ing out, and Lib/SSBD/Inigo are nailed.. it would be SUICIDE to go down this path that "Defcon" (and I type that with utter contempt) is trying to initiate. If it's FUD, if a *WORD* of ANYTHING I've said is FUD.. then Cirrus will certainly point it out. However, I request and urge Cirrus again, to post and aknowledge what I've said and that my concerns are valid and I'm NOT a bullshitter. I'm putting this on his integrity and conscience. He knows the truth, and he knows truths and skeletons that go back way before SR2 existed. If Cirrus says I'm full of shit and I have no idea what I'm saying and I'm making everything up and I'm just trying to create FUD for some sick kicks/giggles, then I will back down.

Do you have any evidence DPR v1 "gave up" the admins, rather than the FBI/etc simply scraping it off of one of DPRs many HDDs?


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« Reply #219 on: December 23, 2013, 06:38:34 am »
I only skimmed the thread but is SR2.0 going to re launch after x-mas break or is it going to be taken down and start using other marketplace?>
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« Reply #220 on: December 23, 2013, 06:39:35 am »
No sir. No FUD, no intentions of blackmail, no LEO. This is purely me footing my foot down when I should have been firmer back the first week of October. October was different. But now that RU is plea-ing out, and Lib/SSBD/Inigo are nailed.. it would be SUICIDE to go down this path that "Defcon" (and I type that with utter contempt) is trying to initiate. If it's FUD, if a *WORD* of ANYTHING I've said is FUD.. then Cirrus will certainly point it out. However, I request and urge Cirrus again, to post and aknowledge what I've said and that my concerns are valid and I'm NOT a bullshitter. I'm putting this on his integrity and conscience. He knows the truth, and he knows truths and skeletons that go back way before SR2 existed. If Cirrus says I'm full of shit and I have no idea what I'm saying and I'm making everything up and I'm just trying to create FUD for some sick kicks/giggles, then I will back down.

Do you have any evidence DPR v1 "gave up" the admins, rather than the FBI/etc simply scraping it off of one of DPRs many HDDs?

Other then what Reuters reported about a plea negotiation that was in the works two weeks ago? No, that I do not have. But.. 2+2 does equal 4, usually.
I have no idea, or way of knowing what DPR1 or his attorney are upto other then plea bargains start, and suddenly 3 people whom he had IRL doxx for end up (unfortuantely) all busted on the same day in a coordinated swoop.
The rest though.. evidence? I'll call it more of a pirates chest.
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« Reply #221 on: December 23, 2013, 06:40:41 am »
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 I'm going to post real, solid evidence (screen shots, VIDEO screen grabs of me decrypting messages etc) that will put this matter to rest.
..............................


@oracle: I'm pretty sure that you told us last night(?), that you're really sorry that you CANNOT prove your words with exactly these things (VIDEO screen grabs of me decrypting messages..), am I not right?
Now you find it under your unwashed pants and socks?
pathfinder13

It's not that simple. I'm not going to put anyone in LE's line of fire, so it's a tightrope. On the other hand, I will not allow a farce to commense.

I only wanted to throw this in. Everybody leads false hints, tells this or that...
I think you're one of the legit here, but this all makes not more sense, as more "information" is laying on
the  table. We're all sitting in a fog.
So let's wait what will happen. Perhaps Cirrus jumps in once again?

Everybody use your own head (although I'm not sure,if it makes sense at all for some around here :-) )
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« Last Edit: December 23, 2013, 06:41:59 am by pathfinder13 »

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« Reply #222 on: December 23, 2013, 06:44:24 am »
I believe Oracle to be a very credible source of information. If you were to actually think about what he is saying, it all makes sense. Evidence or no evidence, that doean't mean jack shit to me right now. I know he isn't spreading FUD. Too bad SRs leader isn't solelyin it for the idea like our prior leader (RU aka DPR1) was. It really is very disappointing. There's no pretending anymore, it would be nice if he'd come out to the community and admit to his mistakes.
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« Reply #223 on: December 23, 2013, 06:46:03 am »
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 I'm going to post real, solid evidence (screen shots, VIDEO screen grabs of me decrypting messages etc) that will put this matter to rest.
..............................


@oracle: I'm pretty sure that you told us last night(?), that you're really sorry that you CANNOT prove your words with exactly these things (VIDEO screen grabs of me decrypting messages..), am I not right?
Now you find it under your unwashed pants and socks?
pathfinder13

It's not that simple. I'm not going to put anyone in LE's line of fire, so it's a tightrope. On the other hand, I will not allow a farce to commense.

So let's wait what will happen. Perhaps Cirrus jumps in once again?


I'm waiting/hoping for that. I have a lot of respect for the guy/girl. I anxiously await him to post something. If my hunch is right, he's working behind the scenes to put a stop to something (or atleast planning things in a less rushed fashion) absolutely ludicrous and destructive.
« Last Edit: December 23, 2013, 06:47:32 am by oracle »
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« Reply #224 on: December 23, 2013, 07:07:41 am »
Cirrus is certainly trying to bring more information to light but has yet to be very successful. Defcon has not been responsive on any medium.

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« Reply #225 on: December 23, 2013, 07:17:56 am »
As much as it pains me to say, LE shutting down SR2 would actually be doing us all a favour I suspect.  If the mods were arrested from info from the SR1 bust, you can bet your arse they have been monitored all this time.  If DPR spoke, then maybe he only recently disclosed this.  Now supposedly DPR2 is compromised.  How do you expect to continue operating a marketplace given the above is true?  Like using a car that has been involved in a bank robbery.

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« Reply #226 on: December 23, 2013, 07:38:22 am »
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« Reply #227 on: December 23, 2013, 09:27:17 am »
I've been feeling this for the past week. Things never looked sketchier.
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« Reply #228 on: December 23, 2013, 10:06:11 am »
I hope he didn't got arrested. =/

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« Reply #229 on: December 23, 2013, 10:12:58 am »
................................
 I'm going to post real, solid evidence (screen shots, VIDEO screen grabs of me decrypting messages etc) that will put this matter to rest.
..............................


@oracle: I'm pretty sure that you told us last night(?), that you're really sorry that you CANNOT prove your words with exactly these things (VIDEO screen grabs of me decrypting messages..), am I not right?
Now you find it under your unwashed pants and socks?
pathfinder13

It's not that simple. I'm not going to put anyone in LE's line of fire, so it's a tightrope. On the other hand, I will not allow a farce to commense.

So let's wait what will happen. Perhaps Cirrus jumps in once again?


I'm waiting/hoping for that. I have a lot of respect for the guy/girl. I anxiously await him to post something. If my hunch is right, he's working behind the scenes to put a stop to something (or atleast planning things in a less rushed fashion) absolutely ludicrous and destructive.


What makes you so certain that Defcon = DPR2?  I mean I have seen him post here in the past before this whole mess and I just assumed he was one of the back end developers that was too busy to have much forum presence.  Are you saying that Defcon was DPR 2 the entire time or that the Defcon account has now been taken over by DPR2?
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« Reply #230 on: December 23, 2013, 10:21:57 am »
Oh FFS! PEOPLE - OPEN YOUR EYES.

Sad, really sad. Nobody can possibly be THAT stupid to not see what's going on here. And here we go again, ONCE AGAIN, putting our own greed above the interests of the entire community.

Can you please elaborate more for us simpler folk?

As I mentioend here: http://silkroad5v7dywlc/index.php?topic=10689.300;topicseen

I think you all need to realze that DPR2's vanishing act, and now Defcon's emergence annointing the "chosen successor" to rise from the ashes... I mean.. Ok.. I think the people who can do the simple math understand it for what it is.. but it's just not a smart idea. Again, I'll say it AGAIN like I said in October.. this is NOT a smart idea.. please DO NOT do this, and please THINK this through.
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"Ambition has no rest". Oh the irony, oh the fucking irony.

I appeal to Defcon/DPR 3 (seriously)/DPR2/DPR4 to PLEASE PLEASE, PRETTY FUCKING PLEASE think what you're doing THROUGH.

I appeal to YOU CIRRUS, to THINK this through. You've always been smart and honest, how can you be apart of this farce?

FWIW, DPR was planning the exit from the moment the arrests happened.

Astonishingly, he took the time to PM me that he wouldn't be around to help on the book any more and to strap in for a "very rough ride"


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« Reply #231 on: December 23, 2013, 10:30:05 am »

I appeal to YOU CIRRUS, to THINK this through. You've always been smart and honest, how can you be apart of this farce?

The only irony here is your misspelling of a part.
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« Reply #232 on: December 23, 2013, 10:57:52 am »
Silk Road Community -

It has now been over 24 hours since we last heard from our Captain. He is most certainly in grave danger.

As posted by Cirrus: Do not trust DPR2's PGP keys. Do not trust any communication claiming to be from DPR2.

As his second in command, I have very clear instructions as to what to do in this worst case scenario.

He appointed a successor before he began. You know who you are, and you know what to do. Consider this the signal.

I cannot elaborate on the specifics, but the marketplace is safe and in my hands until the Captain returns or his successor appears.

Given these shocking events, I am delaying Christmas Break for another 12 hours so that you may withdraw your coins if you so desire.

Make no mistake - Silk Road is not dead, the marketplace is not compromised, and it will return after the break regardless of how this plays out.

If you haven't seen it - Here is his last message to staff, and second-to-last message to me:

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Right now it is still chaotic at best so I am not sure yet how to best respond long term. As a short term bit of caution both Libertas and Inigo are to be treated as hostile and all communications you receive from them must be forwarded to me immediately.

The weighting of Inigo being busted is that in my opinion many things do not yet add up but I believe the reports may be correct. Until the time I know any different or more evidence comes to light remember to think back and if there is anything that may further compromise anyone he may have had access to let me know.

Libertas's case is not supported by much other than rumors. As such it is unlikely this applies to him and it may be a case of bad luck he hasn't logged on for some hours but continue to also treat him as hostile.

Right now I myself have no reason to be offline for any period greater than 24 hours, especially now I am aware of the events above. If such time elapses (24 hours) where I do not appear online consider both myself everything associated with me compromised, even PGP signed messages should be treated with extreme caution. I will be wiping all my communications with all of you and so that may be used as a proof if you wish to verify me in the event something happens by using information only I would know.

This is going to be a testing time for us all and I do not know where it will take us, but everyone please be safe and godspeed.
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« Reply #233 on: December 23, 2013, 11:00:20 am »
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« Reply #234 on: December 23, 2013, 11:12:32 am »
Sorry guys:

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I said it once and I will say it again, LEO is taking time going through the server and the laptop. They wil find ANY clues left behind...

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It is only a matter of time.

And fuck you to everybody that said I was stupid for thinking that.

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« Reply #235 on: December 23, 2013, 11:22:12 am »
I am a little gobsmacked at just how many top vendors kept their nyms just to maintain large customer bases.

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« Reply #236 on: December 23, 2013, 11:41:37 am »
I'd like to know why my Raoul Duke account got the banhammer x10 and was nuked off the face of Silk Road personally.

http://silkroad5v7dywlc/index.php?topic=10945.0

seriously??

you published (in this case published means a link to an image of a screenshot) what was a private communication and not meant for public consumption.  That private communication just happened to contain a statement that linked one of the arrested to a SR account that the police had not previously linked.

you dropped that poor man, that you claim to like, a little further in the shit thanks to your need to show off. 

The only good news is that it appears DPR wasn't paying attention and actually typed the wrong name - as everyone else here who wasn't around during the time of symmetry (I can't remember the spelling) did.  So the police will waste time trying to pin an account on him that there's no evidence for.

That's probably the only reason you've still got your new account active.  If the information had been real and it was me that was in charge of the forums, I'd treat you the same way as coachella. You moved from free speech to doxxing.

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« Reply #237 on: December 23, 2013, 11:46:50 am »
I'd like to know why my Raoul Duke account got the banhammer x10 and was nuked off the face of Silk Road personally.

http://silkroad5v7dywlc/index.php?topic=10945.0

seriously??

you published (in this case published means a link to an image of a screenshot) what was a private communication and not meant for public consumption.  That private communication just happened to contain a statement that linked one of the arrested to a SR account that the police had not previously linked.

you dropped that poor man, that you claim to like, a little further in the shit thanks to your need to show off. 

The only good news is that it appears DPR wasn't paying attention and actually typed the wrong name - as everyone else here who wasn't around during the time of symmetry (I can't remember the spelling) did.  So the police will waste time trying to pin an account on him that there's no evidence for.

That's probably the only reason you've still got your new account active.  If the information had been real and it was me that was in charge of the forums, I'd treat you the same way as coachella. You moved from free speech to doxxing.

I don't know, I thought it was common knowledge that Symmetry was supposed to be synergy and is either a typo or a communication error by the parties who drafted the indictments.

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« Reply #238 on: December 23, 2013, 11:50:24 am »
No it wasn't a typo on the indictment. They weren't indicting him for being synergy.
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« Reply #239 on: December 23, 2013, 11:54:02 am »
No it wasn't a typo on the indictment. They weren't indicting him for being synergy.

Then my question to you is - who is symmetry? have you ever heard of him? sure is pronounced very similarly to synergy.
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« Reply #241 on: December 23, 2013, 12:08:11 pm »
The forums were breached last night. For example: I have my own thread!

So... guess what. Somebody already has it archived, because I've seen it. It was also sent to the FUCKING MEDIA!

Here's my own thread from the mod forum as an example/proof.

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He's loosing it-   I've told him numerous times to take a break and step away, and now he's throwing out this threat of doxxing coahella and warning us not o delete it.  I told him I will delete it if he posts it.  It has no purpose and we don't need that shit right now.  If he goes through with this I'm going to temp ban his account.
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he msg'd me the same thing, i told him to NOT stoop to coachellas level..   :-\


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It's not even that, but he's threatened to put out a quote from DPR that was shared in a confidential location just because he wants to feel vindicated against accusations that he's full of shit.  I told him that it would damage the site and DPR, and would serve no purpose.  He also wanted me to confirm that Synergy was SSBD- I told him that I could give a flying fuck about giving the membership information like that in exchange for providing information that could be used as evidence against SSBD.

That's bullshit and he's loosing it.  He's creating chaos where there isn't any.   

If he pulls this trigger he's going to be banned and I will ban all his other accounts he posts the same information to.  We don't have double standards just because a certain situation has occurred.  We stick to our rules and policies, period.
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shit, i didn't know all of that  :o

how, or who does he get his info from?

it seems that fucking vendors leak all kinds of stuff  :-\

oh man...it's gonna get crazier  .....
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well there goes Raoul  :-\
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Well, he technically stayed within the rules, so I have no problem with that. If he ends up sending out the personal information by PM then have at it.
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ok, i'm sure if he sends out personal info it will be leaked all over the place  ....

this is getting crazier by the minute...hopefully we'll hear from Defcon or DPR Soon....
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you've really got some nerve - you doxx ssbd and you're bragging about it now?
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« Reply #242 on: December 23, 2013, 12:11:35 pm »
DPR doxxed SSBD. The entire forum was already breached. I just posted my own thread as proof. I posted the screencap as proof...

Wow.

I'm innocent lol.
You seem to be missing the point that no one had SHARED that info who had it till you out that link up, i hope any ill effect towards SSBD lies heavy on your shoulders if he was your FRIEND!
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« Reply #243 on: December 23, 2013, 12:15:59 pm »
DPR doxxed SSBD. The entire forum was already breached. I just posted my own thread as proof. I posted the screencap as proof...

Wow.

I'm innocent lol.
You seem to be missing the point that no one had SHARED that info who had it till you out that link up, i hope any ill effect towards SSBD lies heavy on your shoulders if he was your FRIEND!

Nobody shared it, except DPR to the media... and whoever shared my thread with me.

So...

I'll go get some popcorn ready.
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« Reply #244 on: December 23, 2013, 12:37:19 pm »
DPR doxxed SSBD. The entire forum was already breached. Somebody likely has archives of the press area, the mod, tech and admin area I just posted my own thread as proof. I posted the screencap as proof...

Wow.

I'm innocent lol.


This. That fact that RD is being scapegoated is pathetic and has accomplished nothing. Pathetic is what it is.
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« Reply #245 on: December 23, 2013, 12:37:55 pm »
DPR doxxed SSBD. The entire forum was already breached. I just posted my own thread as proof. I posted the screencap as proof...

Wow.

I'm innocent lol.
You seem to be missing the point that no one had SHARED that info who had it till you out that link up, i hope any ill effect towards SSBD lies heavy on your shoulders if he was your FRIEND!

Nobody shared it, except DPR to the media... and whoever shared my thread with me.

So...

I'll go get some popcorn ready.
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So I'm a bastard and ratted out ssbd. Makes complete sense.

You put in full community view EVIDENCE not a theory or opinion but evidence that will aid the LE with proving certain things against SSBD, doesn't matter who else had it in their possession they had the sense not to put it in full view. And you can argue all you want it being only a matter of time till someone did but YOU and you alone can take credit for helping the pigs in their case building.
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« Reply #246 on: December 23, 2013, 12:38:15 pm »
I just dont think there was any point in your actions other than to inflate your ego

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« Reply #247 on: December 23, 2013, 12:57:34 pm »
Damn feds we will not surrender and will never give up

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« Reply #248 on: December 23, 2013, 01:44:12 pm »
I just dont think there was any point in your actions other than to inflate your ego
dude was just giving us the truth and wat was said in his little dpr thing wasnt even as bad as wat cirrus or watever dude put out on dpr compromised and the people he doxxing seem to be dick head who are pedos or ripping u off

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« Reply #249 on: December 23, 2013, 02:08:07 pm »
I just dont think there was any point in your actions other than to inflate your ego
dude was just giving us the truth and wat was said in his little dpr thing wasnt even as bad as wat cirrus or watever dude put out on dpr compromised and the people he doxxing seem to be dick head who are pedos or ripping u off

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« Reply #250 on: December 23, 2013, 02:19:48 pm »
I just dont think there was any point in your actions other than to inflate your ego
dude was just giving us the truth and wat was said in his little dpr thing wasnt even as bad as wat cirrus or watever dude put out on dpr compromised and the people he doxxing seem to be dick head who are pedos or ripping u off

long live duke and gonzo journalism
He supplied evidence on SSBD, forget anything else he has aided LE in building a case on the mods. No theory or opinion but posted evidence, fuck will he go to court next to testify on those facts so his truth is out?

You spamming it all over the forum is helping a lot too you know.
Yep my opinion spamming in the two relevant threads you are trying to justify yourself is like say me posting a screen shot of evidence that from yesterday was re posted out of control thanks to you.
Have you ever seen me post like this before? I have also slept on this before posting on the matter and i awake to see you acting like you have done everyone and SSBD a favor where in actual fact all you have done is add a very high probability of adding further years to a sentence and you have the balls to call him your friend? Even Coachella was a better friend then you using your understanding of the word.
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« Reply #251 on: December 23, 2013, 02:26:49 pm »
Then my question to you is - who is symmetry? have you ever heard of him? sure is pronounced very similarly to synergy.

Symmetry was a admin on the original SR.
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« Reply #252 on: December 23, 2013, 02:46:24 pm »
After thinking all of this over it comes down to the fact that theoretically nothing should really change. If you were using this site as you should have been, you would have never had any real trust in it or DPR2 for that matter. Even the leadership should be treated as if the could be LE.

Long story short, it doesnt matter who runs the site as long as you are protecting your own security to the highest levels and never over extend yourself. DPR3 could be the FBI director and it really shouldn't change a thing. This site should have been considered compromised right from the start.

That being said, I think there is definately something going on behind the scenes that those running the show do not want 99% of the users to know and that fact, being so obvious, should make everyone even that much more weary of this giant mess.
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« Reply #253 on: December 23, 2013, 02:50:07 pm »
what a fucking mess...!!
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« Reply #254 on: December 23, 2013, 02:50:55 pm »
Hoping for the best!

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« Reply #255 on: December 23, 2013, 02:59:47 pm »
agreed..

Lets cut the shit....we should have all known better.

Somewhere in this little lot, is a whole lot of SHIT, we are not supposed to know !!

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so much smoke and mirrors !!...
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« Reply #256 on: December 23, 2013, 03:42:21 pm »
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« Reply #257 on: December 23, 2013, 04:16:32 pm »
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« Reply #258 on: December 23, 2013, 04:58:57 pm »
I'm sorry raul but I have to agree, there's no way in hell you should have posted some of that stuff. I dont have any thing against you myself, but I do disagree with some of the actions you have taken.

as a community we shouldnt be trying to dox any one. now it's even worse then just the LE, we have our own members out for blood and for what? I'd say your journalist side is kicking in too much and it's time to jsut sit back and let things settle down. unless your sole intent is to try and stir up more shit, well then you and every one else here can clearly see why the account was removed.

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« Reply #259 on: December 23, 2013, 05:06:38 pm »
I just dont think there was any point in your actions other than to inflate your ego
dude was just giving us the truth and wat was said in his little dpr thing wasnt even as bad as wat cirrus or watever dude put out on dpr compromised and the people he doxxing seem to be dick head who are pedos or ripping u off

long live duke and gonzo journalism
He supplied evidence on SSBD, forget anything else he has aided LE in building a case on the mods. No theory or opinion but posted evidence, fuck will he go to court next to testify on those facts so his truth is out?

Oh FFS, people need to stop blaming Raoul for the SSBD disclosure. It was all over the place in the first 12 hours after the arrests, before he mentioned it and before DPR disclosed it to journos (which was obviously going to propagate it far and wide). The notion that LE didn't already know who he was and learned it when Duke said that, is just so much straight up stinking bullshit.  Y'all are just looking for reasons to crucify him, and if that's the best you've got you'd better try harder.

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« Reply #260 on: December 23, 2013, 05:15:10 pm »
I just dont think there was any point in your actions other than to inflate your ego
dude was just giving us the truth and wat was said in his little dpr thing wasnt even as bad as wat cirrus or watever dude put out on dpr compromised and the people he doxxing seem to be dick head who are pedos or ripping u off

long live duke and gonzo journalism
He supplied evidence on SSBD, forget anything else he has aided LE in building a case on the mods. No theory or opinion but posted evidence, fuck will he go to court next to testify on those facts so his truth is out?

Oh FFS, people need to stop blaming Raoul for the SSBD disclosure. It was all over the place in the first 12 hours after the arrests, before he mentioned it and before DPR disclosed it to journos (which was obviously going to propagate it far and wide). The notion that LE didn't already know who he was and learned it when Duke said that, is just so much straight up stinking bullshit.  Y'all are just looking for reasons to crucify him, and if that's the best you've got you'd better try harder.
No he can take responsibility, i asked him to show me where it had been wide spread before he got that screen print which he never has and the difference between saying so and putting actual evidence up and then claiming he is your friend quite frankly sickens me. Could you in all seriousness call that person your friend if you had re-posted that information? Because i would be ashamed.
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« Reply #261 on: December 23, 2013, 05:51:20 pm »
I find it funny how everyone is making a big deal over this SSBD information. Are you all that fucking stupid, or just like being cock riding fan boys? THE FEDS HAVE ARRESTED HIM! Believe me, they already fucking know, obviously they know more than you or I or we would all be still sitting on SR1. I swear this "community" are all fucking morons in times like this.

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« Reply #262 on: December 23, 2013, 05:52:41 pm »
I find it funny how everyone is making a big deal over this SSBD information. Are you all that fucking stupid, or just like being cock riding fan boys? THE FEDS HAVE ARRESTED HIM! Believe me, they already fucking know, obviously they know more than you or I or we would all be still sitting on SR1. I swear this "community" are all fucking morons in times like this.

Yeah they may have known but is it really a good idea to give them help?
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« Reply #263 on: December 23, 2013, 06:07:27 pm »
I find it funny how everyone is making a big deal over this SSBD information. Are you all that fucking stupid, or just like being cock riding fan boys? THE FEDS HAVE ARRESTED HIM! Believe me, they already fucking know, obviously they know more than you or I or we would all be still sitting on SR1. I swear this "community" are all fucking morons in times like this.

Yeah they may have known but is it really a good idea to give them help?

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« Reply #264 on: December 23, 2013, 06:09:48 pm »
Make no mistake - Silk Road is not dead, the marketplace is not compromised, and it will return after the break regardless of how this plays out.

Whoever the fuck believes this very much deserves what is coming to him.

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« Reply #265 on: December 23, 2013, 06:55:51 pm »
Make no mistake - Silk Road is not dead, the marketplace is not compromised, and it will return after the break regardless of how this plays out.

Whoever the fuck believes this very much deserves what is coming to him.
mi sorta believe something is gonna come out of this this site is compromised tho inigo wouldnt risk coming online to say that things were so fucked he risked his shit to warn all of us that they can see more then we can even see they have access to mod and admin stuff ive heard it all before no one should have gotten involed with old silkroad staff cuase this is a bust from the orginal silkroad bust and i dont think ross rated any one out to the law the law is in his computer and has every bit of information he had and was using  and duke didnt say shit that we didnt already know and if we know it the feds obvisouly know it i mean come on inigo tip us all of they know almost everything and can see everything i think that tor and clearnet are compromised sites and we need a newer versio/program better then tor if we wish to have darknets

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« Reply #266 on: December 23, 2013, 06:57:01 pm »
like they cracked tor so its time for the next program to come along and then theyll have to crack that and then so on always gotta try and stay one step infront of the law there like cockroaches if u let them go for to long the problem gets worse

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« Reply #267 on: December 23, 2013, 06:59:18 pm »
Can't wait to see a movie based on these event
Just thought about this, feel like I'm watching a dramatic soap opera. I am just chillin' here with some popcorn, this is all pretty fun to observe.

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« Reply #268 on: December 23, 2013, 07:09:15 pm »
People think that correlating SSBD and Synergy would make matters worse?  You think they'll give him a harsher punishment for having 2 handles instead of 1?  Please, I encourage this discussion.  I see everyone berating Raoul but what he did was lend a little bit of transparency which is what journalism is all about.  As if the FEDS wouldn't have made that connection themselves. 

So, what if they do connect SSBD and Synergy?  You guys really think it'll make it worse for him?

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« Reply #269 on: December 23, 2013, 07:15:15 pm »
People think that correlating SSBD and Synergy would make matters worse?  You think they'll give him a harsher punishment for having 2 handles instead of 1?  Please, I encourage this discussion.  I see everyone berating Raoul but what he did was lend a little bit of transparency which is what journalism is all about.  As if the FEDS wouldn't have made that connection themselves. 

So, what if they do connect SSBD and Synergy?  You guys really think it'll make it worse for him?

worst case scenario: he'll get twice the punishment. oh no, two life sentances? fuck i bet he was really hoping that he'd be free after death
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« Reply #270 on: December 23, 2013, 07:16:36 pm »
I find it funny how everyone is making a big deal over this SSBD information. Are you all that fucking stupid, or just like being cock riding fan boys? THE FEDS HAVE ARRESTED HIM! Believe me, they already fucking know, obviously they know more than you or I or we would all be still sitting on SR1. I swear this "community" are all fucking morons in times like this.

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Source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/12/20/feds-indict-three-more-alleged-employees-of-the-silk-roads-dread-pirate-roberts/


The Southern District of New York unsealed an indictment Friday against
Andrew Michael Jones, Peter Phillip Nash and Gary Davis, accusing them of
participating in the Silk Road's conspiracy to traffic in narcotics, as
well as computer hacking and money laundering. According to prosecutors,
Jones and Davis worked as site administrators for Silk Road's booming
Bitcoin-based online drug business, tasked with duties like "responding to
customer service inquiries and resolving disputes between buyers and
sellers."

Nash is accused of working as the Silk Road's "primary moderator" for its
user forums. All three were allegedly paid between $50,000 and $75,000 a
year by the Dread Pirate Roberts, Silk Road's pseudonymous owner, according
to the indictment. It also cites weekly reports sent to Roberts by each of
the three employees as evidence against them.

[...]

At least two of the three defendants named in Friday's indictment, Davis
and Jones, have also allegedly worked as moderators on the user forums of
Silk Road 2.0, the newer version of the drug market site launched just a
month after the original Silk Road's takedown, using the handles "Libertas"
and "Inigo," respectively. In communications on the Silk Road's forums,
Libertas has also claimed to have full control over the user forums of the
original Silk Road, suggesting a role beyond the administrator job
prosecutors accuse him of holding. Inigo had hosted the so-called
"Dread Pirate Roberts Book Club" on the site's forums, where Silk Road's
users discussed libertarian philosophy and free market economics.

Jones seems to have been released on bail after his arrest; He posted a
notice to Silk Road users on the user forums of Tor Market, a competing
drug site, warning of a possible impending crackdown on Silk Road 2.0 and
its owner, who also calls himself the Dread Pirate Roberts in homage to the
original Silk Road's creator.

"When I was in the interview room they showed me all sorts of shit that
they should not know or have access to including conversations I've had
with buyers and even [the Silk Road 2.0 administrator known as the Dread
Pirate Roberts],"
he seems to have written in the post. "Something is
definitely wrong and they have the ability to see things on here only mods
or admins should like [bitcoin] transfers and a dispute I had."


The above quoted text shows that the Feds somehow got access to the non-public areas of the Forum. Revealing that information isn't telling them something they don't already know.

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« Reply #271 on: December 23, 2013, 07:40:01 pm »
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The main argument here is that "Synergy" was not mentioned in the aliases on the indictment against him. Via PM, Raoul told me the following:

"Synergy sent me a PM to my alternate ID about 12 days ago. He said basically, "LE action imminent, if you have anything to hide get your house in order"

He may have had all the time he needed to scrub his identity as Synergy. Ross did not know about Synergy so whatever information that led to his arrest was because he was previously SSBD. Our thinking was that speculation regarding the SSBD/Synergy connection did not harm anyone. But in the small possibility that LE was unaware (Per the indictment), there was good reason to hide this information. It simply made you all angry that you were not being told something.

As I stated before to you all, secrets protect us. There is plenty of information unknown to the masses and all of you must accept that. This is no game. People are going to jail. My friend may now have another alias on his indictment which can only make matters worse for him. DPR made the post originally but was limited to the press forum. Journalists are to protect their sources which Raoul failed to do in this case.

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« Reply #272 on: December 23, 2013, 07:41:49 pm »
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« Reply #273 on: December 23, 2013, 07:56:15 pm »
So again, my question is, how does having another alias make matters worse for Synergy?  SSBD was already charged under the indictment.  What more could they possibly charge him with under a different alias? 

I don't get more time in jail because instead of Joe and Larry, I have Joe, Larry, and Schmuck as aliases. 

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« Reply #274 on: December 23, 2013, 08:14:56 pm »
So again, my question is, how does having another alias make matters worse for Synergy?  SSBD was already charged under the indictment.  What more could they possibly charge him with under a different alias? 

I don't get more time in jail because instead of Joe and Larry, I have Joe, Larry, and Schmuck as aliases.

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« Reply #275 on: December 23, 2013, 08:16:46 pm »
I make it a point not to know anything. I know what I do and i know others by alias only. It works well because you can't spill what you don't know to begin with

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« Reply #276 on: December 23, 2013, 08:33:29 pm »
I make it a point not to know anything. I know what I do and i know others by alias only. It works well because you can't spill what you don't know to begin with
Agreed, the reason i am angry with Duke is him passing that info on to a mainstream outlet then passing himself off as a supposed friend that doesn't sit well with me.

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« Reply #277 on: December 23, 2013, 09:31:21 pm »
Quote from: Nightcrawler
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Source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/12/20/feds-indict-three-more-alleged-employees-of-the-silk-roads-dread-pirate-roberts/

"When I was in the interview room they showed me all sorts of shit that
they should not know or have access to including conversations I've had
with buyers and even [the Silk Road 2.0 administrator known as the Dread
Pirate Roberts],"
he seems to have written in the post. "Something is
definitely wrong and they have the ability to see things on here only mods
or admins should like [bitcoin] transfers and a dispute I had."



I like your posts usually Nightcrawler but I believe you are spreading false info with that post.

That text surfaced first like this:

"When I was in the interview room they showed me all sorts of shit that
they should not know or have access to including conversations I've had
with buyers and even " he seems to have written in the post. "Something is
definitely wrong  and they have the ability to see things on here only mods
or admins should like [bitcoin] transfers and a dispute I had."


There was no mention of SR2.0 until some troll added it here. Looks like media prints stuff without investigating (surprise :D )

The general consensus was that this text was referring to info on SR1, since these busts are essentially about SR1. There is also yet no resolution center on SR2 so that also indicates that the post was about info on SR1...

If someone has some other info would like to hear...

Having said that I'm not sure what's going on here, tread lightly. . .   so many twists , turns , panic and doors banging all over that just about everyone should be cautious...
 
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« Reply #278 on: December 23, 2013, 10:59:40 pm »
Before these mobiles I used to remember long lists of contacts for the telephone by heart.  Kids these days rely os much on technology for memory.  How hard would it have been to memorise a few names.  Especially given the gravitas of their identities.

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« Reply #279 on: December 24, 2013, 12:35:33 am »
You clearly haven't been keeping up Chip. The 'new' DPR is just DPR2.. There is no change. Just a lot of fake panic and fucking around to make it look like they are different ppl.

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« Reply #280 on: December 24, 2013, 12:58:53 am »
You clearly haven't been keeping up Chip. The 'new' DPR is just DPR2.. There is no change. Just a lot of fake panic and fucking around to make it look like they are different ppl.

proof or gtfo. im tired of all this hear-say bullshit.. actually.. i dont want to fucking know.. the feds watching this forum have half their work cut out for them because of people like you trying to figure things out that you're not supposed to
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« Reply #281 on: December 24, 2013, 02:27:47 am »
You clearly haven't been keeping up Chip. The 'new' DPR is just DPR2.. There is no change. Just a lot of fake panic and fucking around to make it look like they are different ppl.

proof or gtfo. im tired of all this hear-say bullshit.. actually.. i dont want to fucking know.. the feds watching this forum have half their work cut out for them because of people like you trying to figure things out that you're not supposed to
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« Reply #282 on: December 24, 2013, 02:35:26 am »
Shortly after the arrests, everyone kept asking for a response from DPR2 besides his few lines.  The site wasn't in touch with DPR for some 36 hours after that but DoctorClu kept mentioning that he was in touch with DPR2 during that time throughout a few threads.  Am I wrong?  Does anyone else remember this?

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« Reply #284 on: December 24, 2013, 04:17:24 am »
So again, my question is, how does having another alias make matters worse for Synergy?  SSBD was already charged under the indictment.  What more could they possibly charge him with under a different alias? 

I don't get more time in jail because instead of Joe and Larry, I have Joe, Larry, and Schmuck as aliases.

ssbd was never a moderator of SR2; Synergy was.

I like your posts usually Nightcrawler but I believe you are spreading false info with that post.

The general consensus was that this text was referring to info on SR1, since these busts are essentially about SR1. There is also yet no resolution center on SR2 so that also indicates that the post was about info on SR1...

If someone has some other info would like to hear...

Having said that I'm not sure what's going on here, tread lightly. . .   so many twists , turns , panic and doors banging all over that just about everyone should be cautious...

Indeed. Terrible reporting by Mr Greenberg, there. Moreover, I've seen no confirmation that the vendor's (not Inigo's) post allegedly quoted on BMR was ever really in our Vendor Roundtable (as I understand it was claimed to be) and I'm a little disappointed to see Nightcrawler perpetuating myth and gossip.
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Re: Contingency Plan
« Reply #285 on: December 24, 2013, 04:27:15 am »
So again, my question is, how does having another alias make matters worse for Synergy?  SSBD was already charged under the indictment.  What more could they possibly charge him with under a different alias? 

I don't get more time in jail because instead of Joe and Larry, I have Joe, Larry, and Schmuck as aliases.

ssbd was never a moderator of SR2; Synergy was.

I like your posts usually Nightcrawler but I believe you are spreading false info with that post.

The general consensus was that this text was referring to info on SR1, since these busts are essentially about SR1. There is also yet no resolution center on SR2 so that also indicates that the post was about info on SR1...

If someone has some other info would like to hear...

Having said that I'm not sure what's going on here, tread lightly. . .   so many twists , turns , panic and doors banging all over that just about everyone should be cautious...

Indeed. Terrible reporting by Mr Greenberg, there. Moreover, I've seen no confirmation that the vendor's (not Inigo's) post allegedly quoted on BMR was ever really in our Vendor Roundtable (as I understand it was claimed to be) and I'm a little disappointed to see Nightcrawler perpetuating myth and gossip.

Doesn't SSBD = Synergy?  http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/i/aZxu6.png

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Re: Contingency Plan
« Reply #286 on: December 24, 2013, 04:48:03 am »
So again, my question is, how does having another alias make matters worse for Synergy?  SSBD was already charged under the indictment.  What more could they possibly charge him with under a different alias? 

I don't get more time in jail because instead of Joe and Larry, I have Joe, Larry, and Schmuck as aliases.
ssbd was never a moderator of SR2; Synergy was.
Doesn't SSBD = Synergy?  http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/i/aZxu6.png

So it would appear, if that screenshot is genuinely from an unmodified page of the forum. The point is that there seems to have been nothing beyond rumour linking the SR2 mod Synergy to the SR1 mod samesamebutdifferent. Unlike Inigo and Libertas, ssbd has never been a mod here under that name. It it were to be established that they were both the same person then that would increase the amount of evidence against the person accused of being ssbd, as well as setting him up for charges relating to events post-SR1.
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Re: Contingency Plan
« Reply #287 on: December 24, 2013, 05:07:41 am »
Can we leav this Synergy thing to the side to a second and can I see what the consensus on this site is.  Everyone is supposed to blindly accept that this Defcon is now the head?  Also is everyone completely satisfied using this site after Christmas as normal as if nothing has happened?  How is Defcon being so dismissive of everything? 

One great thing about SR over the other sites was its sense of community and the high quality discussion on the forums.  Unfortunately, this loyalty can sometimes lead to people being overly supportive of authority on this site without taking a step back to assess the situation for themselves.  People who disagree are sometimes labelled ''traitors'' by the immature who tend not to think for themselves.  What I am getting at is do you guys really believe this site will have anywhere near the longevity of the first site?  I worry things are being swept under the carpet and I am sure there is a lot backstage being kept from us.  Not in a malicious way but to ensure people stay with SR.

Analogous to tryna pick up coke at the end of a night from the street and getting further into a negotiation in  the hope it may be decent, when your head tells you it is gna be fake shit with each passing comment by the dealer.  Times like that, getting a burger and going home is usually the best option.

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Re: Contingency Plan
« Reply #288 on: December 24, 2013, 06:28:05 am »
Can we leav this Synergy thing to the side to a second and can I see what the consensus on this site is.  Everyone is supposed to blindly accept that this Defcon is now the head?  Also is everyone completely satisfied using this site after Christmas as normal as if nothing has happened?  How is Defcon being so dismissive of everything? 

One great thing about SR over the other sites was its sense of community and the high quality discussion on the forums.  Unfortunately, this loyalty can sometimes lead to people being overly supportive of authority on this site without taking a step back to assess the situation for themselves.  People who disagree are sometimes labelled ''traitors'' by the immature who tend not to think for themselves.  What I am getting at is do you guys really believe this site will have anywhere near the longevity of the first site?  I worry things are being swept under the carpet and I am sure there is a lot backstage being kept from us.  Not in a malicious way but to ensure people stay with SR.

Analogous to tryna pick up coke at the end of a night from the street and getting further into a negotiation in  the hope it may be decent, when your head tells you it is gna be fake shit with each passing comment by the dealer.  Times like that, getting a burger and going home is usually the best option.

"Getting a burger" is never a good idea  :-) (I only care for your health), but I'm totally with you with everything else you mentioned above!
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Re: Contingency Plan
« Reply #289 on: December 24, 2013, 11:00:58 am »
So again, my question is, how does having another alias make matters worse for Synergy?  SSBD was already charged under the indictment.  What more could they possibly charge him with under a different alias? 

I don't get more time in jail because instead of Joe and Larry, I have Joe, Larry, and Schmuck as aliases.
ssbd was never a moderator of SR2; Synergy was.
Doesn't SSBD = Synergy?  http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/i/aZxu6.png

So it would appear, if that screenshot is genuinely from an unmodified page of the forum. The point is that there seems to have been nothing beyond rumour linking the SR2 mod Synergy to the SR1 mod samesamebutdifferent. Unlike Inigo and Libertas, ssbd has never been a mod here under that name. It it were to be established that they were both the same person then that would increase the amount of evidence against the person accused of being ssbd, as well as setting him up for charges relating to events post-SR1.

Gentlemen,

Everyone has been carrying on about this nonsense for days ... but the fact is, LE knew that SSBD=Synergy before they arrested him. Both Duke & I noticed that they had "Symmetry" listed as an alias; also, SSBD was arrested in Australia--and Synergy often said things that led me to believe that he was either in or from Oz.

DPR confirmed all of this inside the Press Corner.

"Don't quote me," he said. (And yes, that's a real screenshot.)

I don't know what logic or purpose was supposed to be served, but Cirrus was parroting an official line for awhile after that about Synergy being on vacation. At some point, Duke mentioned it on the forums ... then OzFreelancer made a snide comment to him in the Press Corner, which I recall went nowhere.

All Duke did was confirm what everyone already knew--and even then, people were still asking about it when Cirrus started yelling, "The British are coming!"

I then confirmed it myself inside Cirrus's Doomsday Thread.

The fact is, it's not important whatsoever, from a legal standpoint or anything else. Anyone who thinks that the Feds were surprised to learn that Synergy & SSBD were one and the same (and that they learned it here) ... well ... I just don't know what to say.

LE is going to shut this market down, if the people in control don't do it first. Either way, the fallout isn't over and more arrests are coming (not to mention the arrests that have already taken place and have not been announced yet).

I keep sayin' it....

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Re: Contingency Plan
« Reply #290 on: December 24, 2013, 11:07:54 am »
So again, my question is, how does having another alias make matters worse for Synergy?  SSBD was already charged under the indictment.  What more could they possibly charge him with under a different alias? 

I don't get more time in jail because instead of Joe and Larry, I have Joe, Larry, and Schmuck as aliases.
ssbd was never a moderator of SR2; Synergy was.
Doesn't SSBD = Synergy?  http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/i/aZxu6.png

So it would appear, if that screenshot is genuinely from an unmodified page of the forum. The point is that there seems to have been nothing beyond rumour linking the SR2 mod Synergy to the SR1 mod samesamebutdifferent. Unlike Inigo and Libertas, ssbd has never been a mod here under that name. It it were to be established that they were both the same person then that would increase the amount of evidence against the person accused of being ssbd, as well as setting him up for charges relating to events post-SR1.

Gentlemen,

Everyone has been carrying on about this nonsense for days ... but the fact is, LE knew that SSBD=Synergy before they arrested him. Both Duke & I noticed that they had "Symmetry" listed as an alias; also, SSBD was arrested in Australia--and Synergy often said things that led me to believe that he was either in or from Oz.

DPR confirmed all of this inside the Press Corner.

"Don't quote me," he said. (And yes, that's a real screenshot.)

I don't know what logic or purpose was supposed to be served, but Cirrus was parroting an official line for awhile after that about Synergy being on vacation. At some point, Duke mentioned it on the forums ... then OzFreelancer made a snide comment to him in the Press Corner, which I recall went nowhere.

All Duke did was confirm what everyone already knew--and even then, people were still asking about it when Cirrus started yelling, "The British are coming!"

I then confirmed it myself inside Cirrus's Doomsday Thread.

The fact is, it's not important whatsoever, from a legal standpoint or anything else. Anyone who thinks that the Feds were surprised to learn that Synergy & SSBD were one and the same (and that they learned it here) ... well ... I just don't know what to say.

LE is going to shut this market down, if the people in control don't do it first. Either way, the fallout isn't over and more arrests are coming (not to mention the arrests that have already taken place and have not been announced yet).

I keep sayin' it....

--Ed

+1 Thanks Ed.  I feel like everyone around here is feeding us shit.  This makes more sense.

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Re: Contingency Plan
« Reply #291 on: December 24, 2013, 11:22:19 am »
I will be publishing my annual Christmas column/benediction today on Secret Laboratory, which will include some of what has been happening on Silk Road and around the Deep Web; following that, I will be publishing a lengthy SR piece that you probably won't want to miss.

There is little point in me posting much of anything here in the forums, but I thought that I'd at least address this SSBD/Synergy thing one last time. Posts, threads, and accounts are being deleted. There is a new "in" crowd, apparently. DoctorClu is now a moderator.

I really have no stake in any of this, other than my desire & duty for the truth and to tell the story.

Look for it on my site.

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« Reply #292 on: December 24, 2013, 11:29:46 am »
thanks Ed for being an unbiased observer and just "calling 'em how ya see 'em."    I sense no ulterior motive in you to sabotage anything or to instill paranoia amongst the populace.   Although simply reporting the truth based on documented evidence is enough to generate paranioia in some corners.  Keep up the good work.    :)

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« Reply #293 on: December 24, 2013, 11:35:04 am »
[...]
I really have no stake in any of this, other than my desire & duty for the truth and to tell the story.

Look for it on my site.

[...]
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the translation is "I'm going to do a daily mail on SR and I'm looking for eyeballs to boost the sites ranking"

When people claim to be publishing the truth, I always find it's usually inaccurate, sensationalist drivel that is serving an agenda that is as far away from the truth as possible.

you may prove the stereotype wrong but from your attitude in that post, I doubt it.
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Re: Contingency Plan
« Reply #294 on: December 24, 2013, 11:44:45 am »
So again, my question is, how does having another alias make matters worse for Synergy?  SSBD was already charged under the indictment.  What more could they possibly charge him with under a different alias? 

I don't get more time in jail because instead of Joe and Larry, I have Joe, Larry, and Schmuck as aliases.
ssbd was never a moderator of SR2; Synergy was.
Doesn't SSBD = Synergy?  http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/i/aZxu6.png

So it would appear, if that screenshot is genuinely from an unmodified page of the forum. The point is that there seems to have been nothing beyond rumour linking the SR2 mod Synergy to the SR1 mod samesamebutdifferent. Unlike Inigo and Libertas, ssbd has never been a mod here under that name. It it were to be established that they were both the same person then that would increase the amount of evidence against the person accused of being ssbd, as well as setting him up for charges relating to events post-SR1.

Gentlemen,

Everyone has been carrying on about this nonsense for days ... but the fact is, LE knew that SSBD=Synergy before they arrested him. Both Duke & I noticed that they had "Symmetry" listed as an alias; also, SSBD was arrested in Australia--and Synergy often said things that led me to believe that he was either in or from Oz.

DPR confirmed all of this inside the Press Corner.

"Don't quote me," he said. (And yes, that's a real screenshot.)

I don't know what logic or purpose was supposed to be served, but Cirrus was parroting an official line for awhile after that about Synergy being on vacation. At some point, Duke mentioned it on the forums ... then OzFreelancer made a snide comment to him in the Press Corner, which I recall went nowhere.

All Duke did was confirm what everyone already knew--and even then, people were still asking about it when Cirrus started yelling, "The British are coming!"

I then confirmed it myself inside Cirrus's Doomsday Thread.

The fact is, it's not important whatsoever, from a legal standpoint or anything else. Anyone who thinks that the Feds were surprised to learn that Synergy & SSBD were one and the same (and that they learned it here) ... well ... I just don't know what to say.

LE is going to shut this market down, if the people in control don't do it first. Either way, the fallout isn't over and more arrests are coming (not to mention the arrests that have already taken place and have not been announced yet).

I keep sayin' it....

--Ed

@Ed:  you read already oracle's announcement? This doesn't sounds true to you?
http://silkroad5v7dywlc/index.php?topic=11089.0

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« Reply #295 on: December 24, 2013, 11:52:29 am »
Who else have they arrested that we don't know about? 

This journalist crap on here isn't helping either. 

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« Reply #296 on: December 24, 2013, 11:56:33 am »
I don't know what logic or purpose was supposed to be served, but Cirrus was parroting an official line for awhile after that about Synergy being on vacation. At some point, Duke mentioned it on the forums ... then OzFreelancer made a snide comment to him in the Press Corner, which I recall went nowhere.

"snide comment" hey?

Let's see:

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Quote from: Raoul Duke on December 21, 2013, 10:04:44 am
Fuck. I knew he was SSBD. I talked to him almost every day. "Symmetry" was listed as person on the docket. Nobody seems to have really made the connection yet.

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(OzFreelancer): So you decided to announce it on the public forum? Seriously?

I think your comment "OzFreelancer made a snide comment" is more snide than the comment I made, actually.  ::)
BTW, "Symmetry" is not a typo in the FBI docs. You knew that, right?
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« Reply #297 on: December 24, 2013, 12:03:17 pm »
I don't know what logic or purpose was supposed to be served, but Cirrus was parroting an official line for awhile after that about Synergy being on vacation. At some point, Duke mentioned it on the forums ... then OzFreelancer made a snide comment to him in the Press Corner, which I recall went nowhere.

"snide comment" hey?

Let's see:

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Quote from: Raoul Duke on December 21, 2013, 10:04:44 am
Fuck. I knew he was SSBD. I talked to him almost every day. "Symmetry" was listed as person on the docket. Nobody seems to have really made the connection yet.

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(OzFreelancer): So you decided to announce it on the public forum? Seriously?

I think your comment "OzFreelancer made a snide comment" is more snide than the comment I made, actually.  ::)
BTW, "Symmetry" is not a typo in the FBI docs. You knew that, right?

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« Reply #298 on: December 24, 2013, 12:12:46 pm »
I don't know what logic or purpose was supposed to be served, but Cirrus was parroting an official line for awhile after that about Synergy being on vacation. At some point, Duke mentioned it on the forums ... then OzFreelancer made a snide comment to him in the Press Corner, which I recall went nowhere.

"snide comment" hey?

Let's see:

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Quote from: Raoul Duke on December 21, 2013, 10:04:44 am
Fuck. I knew he was SSBD. I talked to him almost every day. "Symmetry" was listed as person on the docket. Nobody seems to have really made the connection yet.

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(OzFreelancer): So you decided to announce it on the public forum? Seriously?

I think your comment "OzFreelancer made a snide comment" is more snide than the comment I made, actually.  ::)
BTW, "Symmetry" is not a typo in the FBI docs. You knew that, right?

TEAM OZFREELANCER here! ;)

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« Reply #299 on: December 24, 2013, 12:15:51 pm »
I +1'd you as well. ;) xo
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« Reply #300 on: December 24, 2013, 12:18:35 pm »
There's a clear difference between being "in the know" and having the sense to be duty bound not to reveal your sources or do anything that might put someone else at risk when entrusted with certain information.

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« Reply #301 on: December 24, 2013, 01:43:38 pm »
everyday it becomes clearer and clearer the risks those who run SILK ROAD take with their personal freedom....i have been in a cell before...and it is not something i would wish on any one.....

but if we don't stand for something we'll fall for anything

my sincere salutations go out to our CAPTAIN and all STAFF members who serve us so well even at great risk to their own freedom....

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« Reply #302 on: December 24, 2013, 01:44:44 pm »
Oz: Yes, the "seriously" comment was what I was referring to, but I didn't mean anything negative by it. Obviously, I chose my words poorly and "snide"didn't quite hit its mark. "incredulous" maybe?

Well, I suppose it doesn't matter. I was just trying to briefly convey that you didn't seem to think that what Duke did was advisable ... so I apologize if you feel misrepresented or insulted.

As for Oracle's statement, yes, I have had a chance to read it now. For my money, it sounds like the truth and it certainly would explain a lot. Here is part of something that I just sent to another member:

I don't support the persecution that Silk Road and similar markets suffer from at the hands of law enforcement; instead, I believe that they provide a valuable service. I like Silk Road (I certainly don't want to see it shut down) ... and I like many members of the community ... but I don't have a stake in it, like so many others. For the most part, I try to avoid taking sides or engaging in arguments for this very reason.

At the end of the day, no matter what happens, I'm primarily here to bear witness to what is unfolding and then write about it. I'm a writer. I'm certainly not objective. From a personal standpoint, I originally joined the site a year ago to explore it out of curiousity.


If you think about it, I'm not running around clamoring for attention or posting my opinions in all of these threads ... yet I'm there, reading them. How often do you see me? This is one of the reasons why I don't say much--because people in forums & comments sections are notoriously sensitive. No matter what one says, someone isn't happy about it. That in itself doesn't concern me ... but seeing threads being constantly derailed by bickering does.

In regards to Silk Road and its future, I'm not holding out on some special, priviliged information--I don't get any--and I don't have a crystal ball. I'm not saying that the market has been compromised or that it's going to be closed within X number of days ... but consider the following, which I recently wrote:

Within a few months of going online, Federal LE began actively investigating Silk Road--and it wasn't until this summer that they began to make arrests. They have been planning this for two years, slowly & silently building cases. Their objective is to obliterate Silk Road and probably similar sites, as well. I guarantee you that there has never been any doubt (in their minds, at least) that they would accomplish their goal.

That goes for me, as well. When I joined, I had no knowledge of an ongoing investigation ... yet I assumed that there was one ... and that it would be shut down eventually. If you see rain through your window, you figure that if you go outdoors, it will fall on you and make your clothes damp.


And now, I'm going to excuse myself because none of this is important--except my apology to Oz, since I have the utmost respect for her.

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« Reply #303 on: December 24, 2013, 02:08:54 pm »
just a tidbit. "snide" and "incredulous" arent even synonyms.. nor really even related.

and to summarize all this "journalism"; "this site is dangerous and has always been. some users apparently weren't aware, and are now scared."
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« Reply #304 on: December 24, 2013, 02:15:59 pm »
Just because you have information that LE PROBABLY already has doesn't make it OK or proper to share with the masses.

More over, just because LE has found what they believe to be evidence doesn't make corroborating it any less damaging.

Providing information for the sake of journalism is one thing...
But confirming information that can do no good other than to calm the nerves of a scrambling and at times irrationally demanding community is really rather wreckless and quite selfish.

Even if providing information to support a criminal case against someone might not do them any harm, it's certainly not helping them.

Like DrClu said, secrets protect us. Not everything needs to be confirmed or disclosed, and the paranoia of the community as opposed to the ACTUAL STATE of the community is a trivial issue that should not be a priority right now.

Leave the theories and confirmation of them up to LEA. That's what they are paid to do, so make them earn that pay by making it as difficult as possible. Not offering a hand by reposting information and offering up theories. The question isn't "What harm is it causing?" But rather "What GOOD is is doing?"
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« Reply #305 on: December 24, 2013, 02:31:23 pm »
Just because you have information that LE PROBABLY already has doesn't make it OK or proper to share with the masses.

More over, just because LE has found what they believe to be evidence doesn't make corroborating it any less damaging.

Providing information for the sake of journalism is one thing...
But confirming information that can do no good other than to calm the nerves of a scrambling and at times irrationally demanding community is really rather wreckless and quite selfish.

Even if providing information to support a criminal case against someone might not do them any harm, it's certainly not helping them.

Like DrClu said, secrets protect us. Not everything needs to be confirmed or disclosed, and the paranoia of the community as opposed to the ACTUAL STATE of the community is a trivial issue that should not be a priority right now.

pleading the fifth is ALWAYS safer than telling the truth. even if you are 100% innocent. hell, even if (somehow), you were 200% innocent..

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« Reply #306 on: December 24, 2013, 05:10:05 pm »
pleading the fifth is ALWAYS safer than telling the truth. even if you are 100% innocent. hell, even if (somehow), you were 200% innocent..

dont just take it from me, heres a lawyer and police officer to confirm it (clearnet warning): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

especially if you're innocent. otherwise you are giving your defense away months before the trial. that gives a cunning prosecutor plenty of time to find a chink in your defense to use against you and make you look guilty.

also we don't even know if the case against ross is even that good. his lawyer may well have told him at the beginning that it wasn't and he should just shut up. i guess we'll find out for sure in time. i will dance up and down the street if he gets not guilty tho, that's for sure. that would be so cool to see.

It's already been quoted that Ross's attorney is likely negotiating a plea deal (see the 30 day extension requested by the prosecution) so I think a not guilty is not in the cards.

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« Reply #307 on: December 24, 2013, 07:06:12 pm »
pleading the fifth is ALWAYS safer than telling the truth. even if you are 100% innocent. hell, even if (somehow), you were 200% innocent..

dont just take it from me, heres a lawyer and police officer to confirm it (clearnet warning): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

especially if you're innocent. otherwise you are giving your defense away months before the trial. that gives a cunning prosecutor plenty of time to find a chink in your defense to use against you and make you look guilty.

also we don't even know if the case against ross is even that good. his lawyer may well have told him at the beginning that it wasn't and he should just shut up. i guess we'll find out for sure in time. i will dance up and down the street if he gets not guilty tho, that's for sure. that would be so cool to see.

It's already been quoted that Ross's attorney is likely negotiating a plea deal (see the 30 day extension requested by the prosecution) so I think a not guilty is not in the cards.

Ross' gotta have some serious dirt to give up, the fed has such a hard-on for him it'd be pretty HUGE info to get them to take it easy on him.
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« Reply #308 on: December 24, 2013, 09:03:00 pm »
Sigh... it's sad to see whats happening as of late... especially since Oct 2.   

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« Reply #309 on: December 24, 2013, 09:46:05 pm »
I don't know what logic or purpose was supposed to be served, but Cirrus was parroting an official line for awhile after that about Synergy being on vacation. At some point, Duke mentioned it on the forums ... then OzFreelancer made a snide comment to him in the Press Corner, which I recall went nowhere.

"snide comment" hey?

Let's see:

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Fuck. I knew he was SSBD. I talked to him almost every day. "Symmetry" was listed as person on the docket. Nobody seems to have really made the connection yet.

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(OzFreelancer): So you decided to announce it on the public forum? Seriously?

I think your comment "OzFreelancer made a snide comment" is more snide than the comment I made, actually.  ::)
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« Reply #310 on: December 25, 2013, 12:04:10 am »
Personally I don't think Ross will ever leave jail. If a court ordered he be set free it would be handled like that doctor from the UK who went  to treat people in Syria. They just tortured him to death and said it was a suicide.

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« Reply #311 on: December 25, 2013, 01:20:56 am »
In order for the feds to shut down the site they first need to locate the servers. DOS attacks are common ways for LE to locate servers but DPR2 "claims" they had strategies in place to prevent this from happening. Either way, we don't know for sure if LE got a view of the server like they did SR1 which they used to confiscate SR1. Hopefully LE didn't get the servers and the arrests are going to be the only issues. DPR2 is long gone, and good for him. I would run run run too if I was him. Even if I wasn't DOXXED, the arrests of 3 more mods would make me run or atleast hide very good for a long time. We are up against the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. They have unlimited recources. We don't. I salute him for running it this long, I know I sure as hell wouldn't. So all we can do is encrypt encrpt and encrypt. Yes we are a community but at the same time we have to worry about ourselves. A community of people protecting themselves is a very strong community. Never squeal (easier said than done) and alwasys protect yourself over anyone else. Even if it means people can't get their drugs. Its been proven that when one darknet market goes down, another will take its place. Hell, at least 5 have surfaced since SR1. In theory you can use ANY market place as long as you use PGP, tails, and BTC tumblers. Money can be taken from you, but knowledge is something no one can ever take from you. Long live the e-revolution.
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« Reply #312 on: December 25, 2013, 06:45:18 am »
Anyone that truly thinks DPR2 is "gone" is just silly.  He/she is most certainly "gone" under the guise of DPR2.. you can be SURE that he/she is on this forum as we speak.. either as one of the chosen ones that is talking to us currently or lurking.  Either way, do what you need to do brother/sister.  I don't question a thing you are doing either way.

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« Reply #313 on: December 25, 2013, 09:13:19 am »
Anyone that truly thinks DPR2 is "gone" is just silly.  He/she is most certainly "gone" under the guise of DPR2.. you can be SURE that he/she is on this forum as we speak.. either as one of the chosen ones that is talking to us currently or lurking.  Either way, do what you need to do brother/sister.  I don't question a thing you are doing either way.

+1 to that. ;)

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« Reply #314 on: December 25, 2013, 09:57:20 am »
Anyone that truly thinks DPR2 is "gone" is just silly.  He/she is most certainly "gone" under the guise of DPR2.. you can be SURE that he/she is on this forum as we speak.. either as one of the chosen ones that is talking to us currently or lurking.  Either way, do what you need to do brother/sister.  I don't question a thing you are doing either way.

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« Reply #315 on: December 25, 2013, 10:19:04 am »
Anyone that truly thinks DPR2 is "gone" is just silly.  He/she is most certainly "gone" under the guise of DPR2.. you can be SURE that he/she is on this forum as we speak.. either as one of the chosen ones that is talking to us currently or lurking.  Either way, do what you need to do brother/sister.  I don't question a thing you are doing either way.

up to him, he needs to protect his identity either way.
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« Reply #316 on: December 25, 2013, 11:05:59 am »
I honestly think everything is going to be just fine. The past 4-5 days has had everyone on edge, not knowing what was going to happen next, it was like Defcon 2 around here. But all in all, I think this was just another bump in the Road (pun intended). The worst thing that happened is that we lost 3 great men, Inigo, Synergy & Libertas right before the holidays. Only the scumbag US federal government would arrest 3 guys right before the holidays when they could have waited until after the new year. But we have to keep moving forward, in honor of those we have lost. If we stopped now, loosing Inigo, Synergy, Libertas & even Ross would all be in vein.

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« Reply #317 on: December 25, 2013, 03:34:26 pm »
Only the scumbag US federal government would arrest 3 guys right before the holidays when they could have waited until after the new year. But we have to keep moving forward, in honor of those we have lost. If we stopped now, loosing Inigo, Synergy, Libertas & even Ross would all be in vein.

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I don't think these kind of "humans" take only one minute of their time to see the world from the other side of the fence. For them, the whole thing is a one-sided medal and women/men like us doesn't earn the slightest breath of respect!  So I believe that they absolutely wanted to finish this operation right before x-mas!
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« Reply #318 on: December 25, 2013, 04:20:55 pm »
Anyone that truly thinks DPR2 is "gone" is just silly.  He/she is most certainly "gone" under the guise of DPR2.. you can be SURE that he/she is on this forum as we speak.. either as one of the chosen ones that is talking to us currently or lurking.  Either way, do what you need to do brother/sister.  I don't question a thing you are doing either way.

+1 to that. ;)

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« Reply #319 on: December 25, 2013, 05:35:26 pm »
Only the scumbag US federal government would arrest 3 guys right before the holidays when they could have waited until after the new year. But we have to keep moving forward, in honor of those we have lost. If we stopped now, loosing Inigo, Synergy, Libertas & even Ross would all be in vein.

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I don't think these kind of "humans" take only one minute of their time to see the world from the other side of the fence. For them, the whole thing is a one-sided medal and women/men like us doesn't earn the slightest breath of respect!  So I believe that they absolutely wanted to finish this operation right before x-mas!
That's the kind of people they are - period!

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« Reply #320 on: December 25, 2013, 05:57:08 pm »
I honestly think everything is going to be just fine. The past 4-5 days has had everyone on edge, not knowing what was going to happen next, it was like Defcon 2 around here. But all in all, I think this was just another bump in the Road (pun intended). The worst thing that happened is that we lost 3 great men, Inigo, Synergy & Libertas right before the holidays. Only the scumbag US federal government would arrest 3 guys right before the holidays when they could have waited until after the new year. But we have to keep moving forward, in honor of those we have lost. If we stopped now, loosing Inigo, Synergy, Libertas & even Ross would all be in vein.

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well they probably dont have any family to celebrate christmas with. what with their wives leaving them because they put their job first, or their kids hating them because of neglection. so they sublimate their anger and self-hatred and blame the counter-culture rather than just looking in the mirror. eventually they'll get stomach cancer from that ulcer thats been eating them from the inside out and die unhappy. i take solace in that.

I don't think these kind of "humans" take only one minute of their time to see the world from the other side of the fence. For them, the whole thing is a one-sided medal and women/men like us doesn't earn the slightest breath of respect!  So I believe that they absolutely wanted to finish this operation right before x-mas!
That's the kind of people they are - period!

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it is a one-sided fence for them. any other perspective or opinion is just wrong. their truth is the absolute truth. our truth is all just fabricated nonsense from liars, imbeciles, and confused children. and the fact that we believe in our delusions so much just proves that we are sub-human. they're gods walking the earth, and we're just pets. they cant make mistakes, while all our lives ARE mistakes. (i hope you realize im being sarcastic, its hard to convey with text). maybe if we inflate their ego enough, they'll get to a point where they're over-confident about themselves and end up becoming megalomaniac and making errors without realizing it.. you may say im a dreamer, but im not the only one..
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« Reply #321 on: December 25, 2013, 06:57:40 pm »
.. you may say im a dreamer, but im not the only one..
.......I hope some day....

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« Reply #322 on: December 25, 2013, 08:07:30 pm »
I honestly think everything is going to be just fine. The past 4-5 days has had everyone on edge, not knowing what was going to happen next, it was like Defcon 2 around here. But all in all, I think this was just another bump in the Road (pun intended). The worst thing that happened is that we lost 3 great men, Inigo, Synergy & Libertas right before the holidays. Only the scumbag US federal government would arrest 3 guys right before the holidays when they could have waited until after the new year. But we have to keep moving forward, in honor of those we have lost. If we stopped now, loosing Inigo, Synergy, Libertas & even Ross would all be in vein.

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They can't stand the idea of the shifting paradigm to  darknet markets, where the manufacturers of certain substances can deal directly with the buyers of said substances, thereby cutting out the governments of the world from controlling every aspect of the drug trade. They have been working diligently since the Vietnamese war to lock this shit down and they aren't going to let go of the trillion dollar slush fund they built without a fight to the death.

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« Reply #323 on: December 25, 2013, 08:10:23 pm »
I would like to add that Ross and a small group of dedicated lovers of freedom have just kicked a huge hole in their business model and I personally love it.

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« Reply #324 on: December 25, 2013, 10:16:43 pm »
I would like to add that Ross and a small group of dedicated lovers of freedom have just kicked a huge hole in their business model and I personally love it.

I'm not folowing you.

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« Reply #325 on: December 25, 2013, 10:44:11 pm »
I would like to add that Ross and a small group of dedicated lovers of freedom have just kicked a huge hole in their business model and I personally love it.

I'm not folowing you.
  Well it seems to me that the governments of the world want to both sell drugs and arrest people for drugs. They want to profit all the way down the line right to privatizing prisons so they can make even more money off of the war on civil liberties know euphemistically as "the war on drugs". Darknet markets succeeding will make it possible for the manufacturers of hash in morocco to sell directly to buyers world wide, same thing applies to heroin or cocaine, thereby eliminating the need for CIA ratlines, and the US military moving the shit around the world while pretending to be chasing drug traffickers. The only traffickers they are truly interested in interdicting is the competition.

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« Reply #326 on: December 25, 2013, 11:27:37 pm »
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« Reply #327 on: December 26, 2013, 12:08:15 am »
I honestly think everything is going to be just fine. The past 4-5 days has had everyone on edge, not knowing what was going to happen next, it was like Defcon 2 around here. But all in all, I think this was just another bump in the Road (pun intended). The worst thing that happened is that we lost 3 great men, Inigo, Synergy & Libertas right before the holidays. Only the scumbag US federal government would arrest 3 guys right before the holidays when they could have waited until after the new year. But we have to keep moving forward, in honor of those we have lost. If we stopped now, loosing Inigo, Synergy, Libertas & even Ross would all be in vein.

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well they probably dont have any family to celebrate christmas with. what with their wives leaving them because they put their job first, or their kids hating them because of neglection. so they sublimate their anger and self-hatred and blame the counter-culture rather than just looking in the mirror. eventually they'll get stomach cancer from that ulcer thats been eating them from the inside out and die unhappy. i take solace in that.

I don't think these kind of "humans" take only one minute of their time to see the world from the other side of the fence. For them, the whole thing is a one-sided medal and women/men like us doesn't earn the slightest breath of respect!  So I believe that they absolutely wanted to finish this operation right before x-mas!
That's the kind of people they are - period!

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it is a one-sided fence for them. any other perspective or opinion is just wrong. their truth is the absolute truth. our truth is all just fabricated nonsense from liars, imbeciles, and confused children. and the fact that we believe in our delusions so much just proves that we are sub-human. they're gods walking the earth, and we're just pets. they cant make mistakes, while all our lives ARE mistakes. (i hope you realize im being sarcastic, its hard to convey with text). maybe if we inflate their ego enough, they'll get to a point where they're over-confident about themselves and end up becoming megalomaniac and making errors without realizing it.. you may say im a dreamer, but im not the only one..

First of all, +1. Secondly, and this illustrates the sad state of our world, I think you're completely right. No, I take that back--this isn't our world, it's just sold to us that way. All of this shit added to IRL shit is making me very fucking bitter. Gotta point something out to you all, maybe some of you have had the same experience: Even after navigating all of the BS on the darkweb lately and getting my supplies from our heroic vendors here, nobody in my region can fucking afford to buy them even with my rock bottom prices. I've sold plenty of shit, but can't get anything consistently enough to pay for my life (a VERY modest proposal). Had a kid come up to me today and try to sell me one of my own drugs, kid told me that there was a "drug lord" in town with "the good shit". So I'm changing my signature to: poorest drug lord in the world.

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« Reply #328 on: December 26, 2013, 12:28:03 am »
I honestly think everything is going to be just fine. The past 4-5 days has had everyone on edge, not knowing what was going to happen next, it was like Defcon 2 around here. But all in all, I think this was just another bump in the Road (pun intended). The worst thing that happened is that we lost 3 great men, Inigo, Synergy & Libertas right before the holidays. Only the scumbag US federal government would arrest 3 guys right before the holidays when they could have waited until after the new year. But we have to keep moving forward, in honor of those we have lost. If we stopped now, loosing Inigo, Synergy, Libertas & even Ross would all be in vein.


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well they probably dont have any family to celebrate christmas with. what with their wives leaving them because they put their job first, or their kids hating them because of neglection. so they sublimate their anger and self-hatred and blame the counter-culture rather than just looking in the mirror. eventually they'll get stomach cancer from that ulcer thats been eating them from the inside out and die unhappy. i take solace in that.

I don't think these kind of "humans" take only one minute of their time to see the world from the other side of the fence. For them, the whole thing is a one-sided medal and women/men like us doesn't earn the slightest breath of respect!  So I believe that they absolutely wanted to finish this operation right before x-mas!
That's the kind of people they are - period!

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it is a one-sided fence for them. any other perspective or opinion is just wrong. their truth is the absolute truth. our truth is all just fabricated nonsense from liars, imbeciles, and confused children. and the fact that we believe in our delusions so much just proves that we are sub-human. they're gods walking the earth, and we're just pets. they cant make mistakes, while all our lives ARE mistakes. (i hope you realize im being sarcastic, its hard to convey with text). maybe if we inflate their ego enough, they'll get to a point where they're over-confident about themselves and end up becoming megalomaniac and making errors without realizing it.. you may say im a dreamer, but im not the only one..

First of all, +1. Secondly, and this illustrates the sad state of our world, I think you're completely right. No, I take that back--this isn't our world, it's just sold to us that way. All of this shit added to IRL shit is making me very fucking bitter. Gotta point something out to you all, maybe some of you have had the same experience: Even after navigating all of the BS on the darkweb lately and getting my supplies from our heroic vendors here, nobody in my region can fucking afford to buy them even with my rock bottom prices. I've sold plenty of shit, but can't get anything consistently enough to pay for my life (a VERY modest proposal). Had a kid come up to me today and try to sell me one of my own drugs, kid told me that there was a "drug lord" in town with "the good shit". So I'm changing my signature to: poorest drug lord in the world.

Fuck the FBI.
Fuck the man.
Fuck everything.
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Re: Contingency Plan
« Reply #329 on: December 26, 2013, 01:10:09 am »
First of all, +1. Secondly, and this illustrates the sad state of our world, I think you're completely right. No, I take that back--this isn't our world, it's just sold to us that way. All of this shit added to IRL shit is making me very fucking bitter. Gotta point something out to you all, maybe some of you have had the same experience: Even after navigating all of the BS on the darkweb lately and getting my supplies from our heroic vendors here, nobody in my region can fucking afford to buy them even with my rock bottom prices. I've sold plenty of shit, but can't get anything consistently enough to pay for my life (a VERY modest proposal). Had a kid come up to me today and try to sell me one of my own drugs, kid told me that there was a "drug lord" in town with "the good shit". So I'm changing my signature to: poorest drug lord in the world.

Fuck the FBI.
Fuck the man.
Fuck everything.

lol the poorest drug lord in the world. and thanks for the karma, +1 right back man.

and i agree, this trying to lockdown everything (internet as well as the real world) into some sort of mindless routine is making me pretty bitter as well.. why's it called a free market when only the rich can sell things? small business almost always crumble within a few years.. i dont want to get into political stuff because we all have our viewpoints. but i think we can all agree that this "war on drugs" is a failure. and them trying to take control of the internet (a CONSTANTLY expanding, never ending infinite dimension, almost a new universe), is just like trying to throw a rope around the cosmos.. they only want money, thats why they arrested the old moderators. they could care less if the site is running, but they will ALWAYS be after the people running it. just more money for them to pocket. and i know this rant is in vain, because in the end, what's it going to change? but damn this shit just keeps me steaming.
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« Reply #330 on: December 27, 2013, 10:45:51 am »

So I'm changing my signature to: poorest drug lord in the world.


 Love it. made me laugh
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Re: Contingency Plan
« Reply #331 on: December 28, 2013, 12:22:05 am »
Might just be me, but watched the matrix again last night. fuck me, it shows the situation perfectly.
We all know who agent smith is. We´re the ones that got disconnected, the ones that are free,  the rest of the world is all still plugged in, the way we win, is little by little freeing people from the fake reality created by the machine. and those ugly little octopus creatures are the feds.
So these holidays I suggest you have a good time with the famalam, you all watch the matrix, then go and blow up a few ugly mechanised octopuses :D rhetorically speaking of course.
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« Reply #332 on: December 28, 2013, 09:42:30 am »
Cheers for the fallen, raised a glas on my own.
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