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I apologize -- I wasn't directly attacking your product -- I'm sure you have tons of loyal customers / users -- I just can't see me being one of them. 

I understand that and respect it.  Thank you for clarifying, I did feel attacked.

I view SR as a place where people come because they don't want to deal with that, among other things.  This makes SR a value added place, people come here because they prefer it over the experience they have on the street for various reasons and are willing to pay money for that.  Because I understand that people come here knowing they will pay more for value added features I have chosen to embrace it, I am an honest vendor, I don't sell light, cut, or bad products ever and I do dozens of things to ensure every customer is happy in their decision to purchase with me.  I own up to my mistakes and make things right.  I do this because the reason people come here is as professionals they want these things, and also as profesisonals they are have money with which to pay for them rather than pay less and deal with frustration.

We all know that we choose SR over the street because we want better service, higher quality product, discretion, not to get in trouble with the law, higher medical safety, for the product not to be light, for the product to be top quality, for it to show up when expected, reliability, and a protection against being cheated by the vendor.  These things are all benefits have a cost associated with providing them and that cost is significant. Because I understand this I embrace it by providing every feature I want when I purchase here.  Providing these benefits has a cost associated with it in various forms: time, labor, risk, and fees which I pass on to the customer.   When people say "a gram of this costs X on the street" they are disregarding those costs and pretending that they don't want those benefits, but that is not true.

The truth is everybody wants those benefits, the question is whether people are willing to pay for them or not.  The fact that I am in business is proof that many do. The fact that SR exists in the first place is proof in a more general sense as well.

I am confident that what I offer is fairly priced for someone who wants these benefits once the cost of providing them is factored in.  For those people who don't want to pay for all these customer satisfaction measures there are alternatives.  Whatever particular combination of dis-satisfaction is acceptable to you there is a vendor here who can provide it: lower grade product, under weight product, out of stock, not deliver on time, lie about shipping times, pass on bunk product, require FE, twist your arm, don't use stealth, requiring signatures, hostility, lecturing you about pgp, not vacuum sealing, not taking care to protect your information, inconsistent product, misinformation, failed promises, undependable, rude, and many others i'm sure! Whatever compromises in satisfaction you are willing to accept you can find a vendor who closely fits that combination at a lower price.  If you are particularly fond of dissatisfaction and need heroic levels of disrespect, getting cheated, and legal risk you may have to go to the street to find them all in one fell swoop.  If your preference is to not have any dissatisfaction and pay the costs assocaited with being happy with your experience I am the guy to go to. 

My problem is with the rhetoric, false information, and unreasonable expectations from the person who is essentially claimed that a vendor who wants to make a profit is greedy.  The opposite is more true.  Customers are here to get a product, and vendors are here to to make money by providing a service. Compared to a thug on the street a vendor here has to expend time, money, and accept risk, and expecting a vendor to provide these services at that cost to him without making a profit is greedy.  If you do not want to pay for that you are not compelled to do so, you can walk away peacefully.  But to create a public spectacle by calling vendors greedy in order to shame them in to doing these things for free rather than just not purchasing is the very definition of greedy, with manipulation mixed in.

The only problem I think with that would be, is that during an epic nod..  You would drop said hamburger on the floor, rendering it useless.

Its okay we can fix that, we'll get Carls Jr hamburgers and miss Turkey will come fix it for us.

Sorry if you felt that my post was aimed specifically at you Nod, it wasn't.

I did not say that your post was aimed at me. I pointed out that your four libelous claims all have no basis in fact and said that you should either back them up or apologize for doing so.

Also, vendors have much much less risk of being busted than a customer does.

That is another false claim.   When mail is intercepted on the way to the customer it is generally confiscated.  I have seen four cases of intercepted goods (nothing I shipped).  The closest call was a call from the postal inspector asking for permission to search the package, nothing else came of it.  Customers are not a target for law enforcement, dealers are.

Moreover, if a customer were to get busted he will not spend any time in prison, he will probably not even spend time in jail.  The most likely result is work project or a deferred sentence.  If a dealer gets busted he will spend a dozen years in prison for fifty counts. 

That aside, it is irrelevant who is at more risk, the bottom line is that there is risk. 

>  You vendors remain COMPLETELY anonymous, other than the post mark on the package, there is no way for anyone to know who the package came from

That is not true, I could type out a list 200 items long without pausing.  Obviously I won't be doing that for my own safety.

You seem to think that vendors here make a lot of money for no work or risk.  If you think that is true then the obvious next step is for you to join us.  If you choose to do so you will discover the risks and expenses are so much greater than you portray that you will be ashamed of having said what you did.

Just calling it like I see it.

Exactly! 

You ever think that you've done so much coke that your tolerance has gone up so therefore all coke is "not as good as the 80's"   

LMAO!

My guess is this is medium quality blow but possible cut with another drug. i am really just interested in educating myself more about cocaine and cutters and all that jazz

Here are some thoughts:


a) Because of the 200:1 solubility side effect of this is that when you add high purity coke to water in your IV it will not noticeably raise the water level. Since almost nothing else is this soluble any cut will cause the water level to rise noticeably. Try looking at the water level of the water in the syringe vs the water + coke in the syringe, you will see the coke

b) I sent it as a single rock on purpose. Dust the rock off with a turkey baster or paint brush and you will see it has a dull glossy sheen which is proof that it is genuine. You must dust it off to see this because the powder hide it. Represses do not have this sheen.

c) if you hold it in bright light you will see sparkles. Cocaine is referred to as "white and clear" in color, the clear is these sparkles.

Yep tar would probably clog a small pore syringe filter unless you filtered with something else first, they're really only good for sterilization not mass filtering, it would be your final quality assurance step, pushing the solution through a syringe filter right into each vial for sale.

So you need to get a more refined product before using them to sterilize if you went that route. An acid/base with limonene (non-toxic non-polar), followed by evaporation would get you something cleaner to work with.

Alternatively a buchner funnel, glass fiber filter paper and a vacuum flask (which seems what hatter does) would help before attempting the syringe filter.

The syringe filters are on ebay though, whatman or millex brand, PVDF membrane and 0.2 or 0.1 micron for sterilization. 33mm diameter is big enough for pills usually, tar is a different animal I wouldn't even try it before a prefilter or an acid/base but you can attempt it if you like, maybe your stuff is clean enough to go through a larger one as it is.

God damn, I love when I meet people that make me feel uneducated.  +1 for you mate!  Let me hit a dictionary and wikipedia and ask more quesitons shortly

I don't know if heating #3 is necessary to get the reaction with citric going or if it just speeds the reaction process up? But I have heard #3 is often cut with Acetaminophen/apap and that is  not good to be heating up and iv'ing.. But I have absolutely NO EXPERIENCE with #3 so...

You are right this reaction will occur at room temperature, no additional heat is needed.  You are also right that reactions happen faster at a higher temperature so heat would make it happen faster but it happens in just a second so it's really not necessary.

I have a customer service announcement to make

Be careful not to use too much acid.   When you convert #3 to #4 by adding acid so the heroin freebase disappears in to the water.  If you add the proper amount you're good to go. 

Since the heroin disappears as you add the acid and stir, when people still see solids in their heroin they othen think "it didnt all dissolve, I'd better add more!".  If you added the proper amount and not all solids disappeared that is because what is left is not heroin freebase, it is something else.  The reason it disappears as you add a lot more acid is because at some level of acidity whatever it is breaks down.

The reason too much acid is bad is because the acidity damages your veins. 

BTH has an undeserved reputation for harming veins because long ago when it was made it was made in low quality labs (like meth labs). These days BTH is made in super labs in mexico and it's no longer true that it is overly acidic.  A customer did some acidity tests of one of my earlier batches and posted his findings, I bet if we search we can find that.   I don't recall the numbers but it's not highly acidic as people tend to believe.

Injecting something acidic is bad for you.  If somebody feels like doing a pH test of various vendors and post the results maybe we can all send a sample to them.  I'd be up for that.  Any takers?

Nod

Thanks eclipsin and MM.  Honestly my biggest worry is that many people were depending on this for new years eve and my biggest sales pitch is that I have never let a customer down.  I'm going to try and make this deal right or go around this guy to his supplier, if I can get it worked out I'll be selling again.

If you guys want to have pity on me then the form I'd like it in is not being upset that I wasn't able to fill those orders.  I did my best by cancelling them as quickly as I knew.  Customer satisfaction is my top priority.