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Rumor mill / Re: Meth vendors and product reviews
« on: February 28, 2013, 05:52 am »
I was referring to product quality actually but I'm not willing to say more because it is treading too close to something I consider tacky.  Instead I walked right up to my limit and waved.  I'll let you guys can tell each other how good my stuff is when I get around to doing something to entice you in to trying it.

Wait. So you understand right that we're not actually asking you to share your conclusions, just the process and metrics by which you determined your conclusions. That is, if you're not actually jerking our chain and this isn't just some marketing gimmick.

You were seeking earlier an objective measure by which to determine product quality. Now suddenly you've settled upon an objective measure that you've now used to size up your competition?  ???

Well that was improbably quick wasn't it?  :D

Nope those are all just things you created in your head to make it appear that way if I don't respond.   

Sorry, not gunna bite.  I think I saw a "do not feed trolls" sign around here somewhere.


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Rumor mill / Re: h3ЯØ|n Vendors
« on: February 28, 2013, 05:08 am »
Hey guys!

Back on 2/20 I sent a message saying after lots of vetting I found another type of BTH which is extremely high quality and after about a month's testing I was switching to that supply.  I have given this BTH the name "Type F".  The other day when somebody mentioned type F1 they were referring to this (the 1 meant 1gm).

This new supplier has multiple sources.  One more of his sources has gotten my attention.  I think it may be even more potent, to the point that I'm worried some smokers might not like it because the flavor is so strong, though seasoned users will.  I have named this "Type G".  For the next few weeks if you order BTH from me express and for the free bonus select "0.25gm of another great type of BTH" you will get Type G as the bonus and your order of 1.0gm will be Type F which is now serving as my flagship.

These products cost me the same, for people who have done this you can specify which type and I will make sure to get that to you.  you prefer. Type D and A are still around if anybody wants them for old time's sake.  If you place an order and specify a type you have my guarantee that is what you will get, if it is not available I will hold your order and figure out how you'd like me to proceed.

Enjoy!

Nod

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Rumor mill / Re: Meth vendors and product reviews
« on: February 27, 2013, 08:07 pm »
Yea Nod's pic of that sexy young thing on his listings make me keep on his page an additional 15 minutes at least

LOL!  This was my answer to NoGen Rx.  He didn't put any photos of his product at all, just some sexy asian girl.  I figured I'd one up that by using a girl as well.. but with my name on her chest and some beautiful looking delicious product in hand.

I have to tell you though, if there's one vendor on SR I respect it's Kush411.  I don't want to give many details but the most obvious one is his product images, just seeing those ads makes me want to click and spend bitcoins buying is product! 

Kush has my respect, it will be fun serving this market with him.

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Rumor mill / Re: Meth vendors and product reviews
« on: February 27, 2013, 08:02 pm »
Quote
  * I've received an 8-ball from Kushi and Hamma' for comparison.  I'm not going to make any comment here about their product as that would be tacky and is obviously suspect.  Let's just say that I am now aware of what the competition is and am still interested in playing.

So I'm really curious, especially since you don't do it yourself, what objective measure you used that made you think you stack up well or better than the competition?
I'm curious as well.  I'm assuming Nod is referring strictly to the packaging and stealth since he doesn't use the product but I'd love to read the answer to your question.  :)

Of course you are, that was my intent in posting it =)

I was referring to product quality actually but I'm not willing to say more because it is treading too close to something I consider tacky.  Instead I walked right up to my limit and waved.  I'll let you guys can tell each other how good my stuff is when I get around to doing something to entice you in to trying it.

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Rumor mill / Re: Meth vendors and product reviews
« on: February 26, 2013, 02:11 am »
Oh, I'm sorry, I've broken protocol haven't I Nod?  Well we can't have that... My answers to h) 9, 8, 10.  Respectively.

All fixed  ;D

The correct answers to h) are 10, 10, 10.

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Rumor mill / Re: Meth vendors and product reviews
« on: February 25, 2013, 11:57 pm »
Your messages here combined with your current sig is overpowering.  I'm totally falling for you, Nod.  You aren't really a chick by any chance, are you?  ... damn it.  They're never chicks.  Why are they never chicks?   :'(

You know the reason I started to post that prior message was actually a joke but I removed the joke to make room for business.

The joke was about my other services.

I'm not too surprised that there hasn't been much interest int he 3.5gm introductory listing I put up, I don't expect people to be too excited about it until someone posts a review on here.  No surprise there and no worry either, when I am ready to go prime time I'll make taking the risk more attractive or just straight up give out samples if necessary.  But I am really kind of butt hurt that nobody has taken me up on my cunnilingus services advertised in my original post here:

h) If you are going to pick up on me, on a scale of 1-10 how you rate kissing, receiving oral, or giving oral when you are tweakin. 

I will be reading these threads but if you enjoy chatting my preference is a message on SR so I can ask questions back at you quietly.

I look forward to meeting you and redefining your expectations for quality, service and cunnilingus!

Do I need a review?  I don't know anybody who does meth except 'blue.  Blue,e tell these people I know how to kiss it!

Girl? Guy?  Who knows.  I do like boobs and make up but that doesn't really narrow the field down much these days. =)


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Rumor mill / Re: Meth vendors and product reviews
« on: February 25, 2013, 10:59 pm »
Hey guys, thought I'd give an update.  My other products lines have been pretty busy and I haven't had the time to focus here but this is what's happened in the last week:

  * I've talked to the GC/MS guy on the coke forums, he says he can't get any real data so I told him I wasn't interested.  He has now mentioned he may be able to go to a neighboring country in the EU and get some proof that way, I'll keep you posted on how that goes.
  * My competitive nature got the better of me, although I'm convinced what I have here is a solid product all the talk about measuring, purifying, and recrystalizing in private messages gave me a bug to see if I could make the best even better.  I did some research, picked up ACS grade >99.9% acetone, some ACS grade >99.9% ethanol, and some 91% isopropyl and have been hitting the books trying to figure out how to grow the prettiest shards.   I was still in the planning stages when I got feedback from my first few customers that this product is so good it doesn't make sense to purify and regrow the most potent and beautiful shards here.  BAH! That sounded like fun.  I'll probably still do it when I get around to it.
  * I've received an 8-ball from Kushi and Hamma' for comparison.  I'm not going to make any comment here about their product as that would be tacky and is obviously suspect.  Let's just say that I am now aware of what the competition is and am still interested in playing.


When I get my head above water on my other product lines and have some more time to focus here I may offer make a promotion to get the ball rolling, but so far I haven't even had the time to snap a photo.  Soon!
 

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Rumor mill / Re: h3ЯØ|n Vendors
« on: February 25, 2013, 09:43 pm »
I'm down to become a re-seller of Nod's stuff (1/4g's, 1/2g's, .1g's) - I wonder how many people would be interested in that??

I would be =)


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Rumor mill / Re: h3ЯØ|n Vendors
« on: February 25, 2013, 06:28 pm »
Nod, one suggestion. How about offering a teener of coke and half gram of tar for 300 or so? I would be good for one a week. And its great getting two world class drugs at the same time with ease of mind that you are the one providing.

I could do that if people are interested.  The concept of a coke user who does heroin on the side had never occurred to me.

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Rumor mill / Re: h3ЯØ|n Vendors
« on: February 22, 2013, 09:26 pm »
Hey all, I'm looking for advice/opinions (preferably from long time SR members)  when you run into problems with your orders.  I wont name names until I decide how to proceed based on advice I get.  It's not a major ordeal, more of a customer service 101 type of issue when a seller goofs up, etc..

I placed an order from a well known H vendor on SR .  After approx 4 days from when the order was marked in transit, the express order hadn't arrived so I knew something was wrong .  I contacted the seller and he got back quickly and apologized sayin the order was marked in transit accidentally.  I didnt bitch at all, was polite and thanked him for being honest.  He gave me the option to cancel the order or ship it, so I opted to have him ship it asap.

Anytime this has happened to me with other vendors and it was truly on their end (not USPS), they usually do one (or more) of the following:  refund shipping costs, free shipping upgrade (unless it's already an express order), or they'll give you some extra product for your troubles.

So I waited patiently for the order to arrive in the hopes maybe he'd toss me a bone for my troubles.  The order arrived today so I was happy about that, but I was disappointed when I weighed it out cuz there was no extra nothin.   After paying for express shipping and the vendors reputation, I feel like he deserves a slightly lower feedback score, say a 4 instead of 5 since there was no attempt to try and make things right. 

Any thoughts about the feedback score? in cases like this Seems like some buyers refuse to give anything less than a 5 cuz theyre afrraid to be honest or critique a vendor. 

peace!
kola_nutz

I think this depends on the expectations.  Is this a vendor who makes a big deal out of shipping quickly and customer service? If so I think he owes you something since he failed to meet his promise.

In my case this is a big deal, I pride myself on not making errors like this but it happens once in a blue moon so when it does I make sure the customer feels cherished.  This happened quite recently actually and I explained to the customer it was an accident and not typical, apologized, and asked if he'd rather have a heavy weigh, a refund on shipping, or for me to cancel the order.  The customer asked for a heavy weigh so I sent 4.5gm of coke instead of 3.5gm and I made sure it was a single shiny rock.  Even dusted the rock off with a turkey brush before I vacuum sealed it so it would be extra glossy.  Thankfully this was a coke order, I would feel doubly guilty if an express heroin order got delayed.

On the other hand if you chose a dealer who's mission is to come in at the rock bottom price for the product he sells rather than take the steps to avoid dissatisfaction it's forgivable if he takes 4 days to ship it.   3-4 days to ship is not unreasonable for businesses of that type all over the world.  It's only a problem if you chose to pay and expect service better than that.

On another note, one thing you might try is talking to the vendor.  I find that in the rare case that a customer is not satisfied and I do not know they often do not let me know about their dissatisfaction.  When this happens and I find out about it I explain to them that while I try my hardest to make sure everybody is satisfied sometimes one slips by the goalie and in that case the best thing to do is let me know what's on your mind.  This is better for me because I get to fix it and continue to earn your business and it's better for the customer because the dissatisfaction can be rectified.

So that's my vote - talk to the vendor and explain your frustration. If the vendor is unwilling to work with you bring it to the forums and feedback.

Nod

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The thing I really like is his extremely fast turn around time...

You have the heroin users to thank for that.  They are SERIOUS about getting their dope quickly.  I basically built everything related to delivery around getting things to people as quickly as possible.  techniques. If you place an order at 12:00 noon it ships the same day and there is an 80% of chance of it arriving next day.  The remaining 20% is 2 days (based entirely on your zip code). 

Also, because I am on the west coast I have a 3 hour advantage for customers over the east coast, they can get their order in at 3pm eastern and it comes in less than 24 hours.  This 3 hour time zone advantage also gives me a leg up against vendors in other time zones.

Nod

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Rumor mill / Re: h3ЯØ|n Vendors
« on: February 21, 2013, 08:05 pm »
The cool thing about this tar is that I was able to crush some of it up and it crushed so finely that I was able to just snort a couple of BTH lines!  Wonderful!

Yup BTH can be snorted without being prepped as a cheese or monkey water if it's dry and fine enough.  Very rare to get stuff this dry but this can be snorted.


PS:  And the free 1/2g of blow that came with it looks like the royles royce of blow, but I haven't tried it yet.  I'll be back to comment on both more thoroughly later

Lol, the "rolls royce of blow".  That's almost as funny as the guy who said I sent him a "time machine back to the 80's" :)

If anybody is wondering what AA's talking about, the 1gm Extreme Heroin listing has an option for 0.5gm of my Cocaine product for free with express shipping.  It's pretty popular from people who want to try two premium products out but don't want a ton of heroin at their house or to pay for premium Heroin and premium Coke separately.

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Rumor mill / Re: Meth vendors and product reviews
« on: February 21, 2013, 04:40 pm »
Is there a preferable place to discuss this than this topic?

I am in discussion with somebody in the Netherlands who has access to a GC and has been doing testing for various coke vendors.  He has agreed to test my coke products.  I have asked him if he is also willing to test meth for a fee, I should have the answer in a few days.  If he agrees it will take 2-3 weeks to get a result.

Before I posted here I had a bunch of options tested by meth heads including two by Sniper.  I came here thinking I had done my homework but after posting here I started having discussions with people privately in addition to the feedback here and what I am learning is nobody has really put any effort in to meth quality.  For the most part people use some and then subjectively decide if it's any good.  I am getting the impression that most meth is cut at the point of manufacture but nobody knows for sure with what and nobody knows how to tell except by using some. 

I don't know if this is true or not but it is clear the way to make money here is to raise the bar on quality. 

I have also formed the impression that everybody knows deep down aesthetics of the shards mean nothing but for sentimental reasons people love large clear shards anyway. 


So that's where I am headed.  There is a lot to learn still and it may take a while but I'm going to see what I can do about shedding some light on the mystery of meth quality and raising the bar for purity. 

Nod

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Rumor mill / Re: Meth vendors and product reviews
« on: February 21, 2013, 05:28 am »
Since you don't do it yourself (which could prove quite useful) you might want to invest in a marquis regeants kit to ensure the stuff you send out is always legit. As a general rule of thumb, the duller the shade of orange, the less potent the gear.

Thanks guys for the info.  Keep it coming, I'm learning what is required with every new post.  This is exactly the kind of education I was hoping for.

JP mentioned using a marquis reagents test kit.   A few questions for anybody who knows:

 * Looking at the wikipedia page it appears one kit is used for a ton of alkaloids, the resulting color tells you what you have.  Is there any issue with cofusion about which color for example Meth being cut with something else that triggers the test to turn another color? 
 * If there is no concern, if I were to put in calibrated amount of product to the test would I be able to get an indication of methamphetamine percentage by the intensity of the color change?
 * Can marquis reagent tests be reused?
 * Does an solution available to consumers with more easily quantified results exist? (IE: stick 5mg in and it says "60-65%")


Has anybody here performed quantified measurements against street meth or existing SR meth?

In general, how good or bad is the state of affairs here?  Do we have some wicked good shit already or are we dealing with product that needs improvement? (no insult intended to anybody, I ask the question innocently).  If we have wicked good shit then maybe I'm worried too much about this.

On the other hand if people are dissatisfied with the available options I could have this tested in a gc (there's a guy on the coke forums bringing samples to the dutch public lab).  This would answer beyond any doubt the purity and cut of all the products available.

I am enjoying this.  Tomorrow I'm going to try some basic recrystalization techniques to see how much weight is lost as a baseline and how much with various cleaning techniques.  If I don't report back it's because I fouled something up and am too embarassed to admit it :)

Nod

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Rumor mill / Re: Meth vendors and product reviews
« on: February 20, 2013, 06:10 pm »
e) What size orders are convenient for you

You should have listings in the following:1 gram, tenner, 8 ball, quarter, and oz listings. (1g, 1.8g, 3.5g, 7g, 28g)
 f) What things are important to you as a customer

Timely shipping, good packaging, and chunky, clear shards.
 

This leads to some questions, would you help educate me?


Sniper mentioned chunky, clear shards:

=regarding clear=
This supplier sends shards of all sizes.  Since I plan to sell on SR for higher than street price I pay the distributor a premium to allow me to take the pieces I want from the bag before anybody else touches it.  I have been grabbing only the largest shards. Everything I have is 3gm-7.7gm.

The bag contains all size shards.  The small shards are clear, you can see right through them except distorted because the surface isn't perfect.small shards.    The big shards have the same clear color on the outsides but there are lines in the middle which I think are related to crystalization.  These lines make the shard appear white (not cloudy) from overlaying patterns.  My take on this up to now is this white color in thick shards is due to the number of layers and the lines from crystalization and is normal and unavoidable.  Is my analysis right, that it is okay to have white shards due to busy lines in 3-7gm shards or is this sub par?

If I am on the wrong path please feel free to let me know, I have plenty of options for product and can switch vendors easily enough.  Although my initial research and feedback from methheads said this was the best if you people tell me that I'm headed the wrong way I will change directions.  I know who's buying the product.

=regarding chunky=
What I am seeing is shards 25-50mm long, 12-18mm high, 10-15mm deep.  There are a lot of surfaces on which you could cleave this like a diamond to make it fracture cleanly.  It almost has steps in it like a block of tiny lego bricks.  Is this what you mean by chunky?


=regarding smaller listings: 1.0gm, teener, etc=
I have learned from analyzing the sales of other product lines is that there is a significant cost to shipping even an empty package.  I'm not going to throw a figure out because it is shockingly high but suffice it to say orders below $250 aren't worth shipping without adding a small order premium which is out of line with the cost of the product.  I may list 1gm at a loss temporarily for introductory purposes but this will be temporary.  A third possibility is I may be willing to sell 1gm/1.75gm as long as it is purchased in the same package as another product.  If anybody has any other ideas on how I can ship small orders profitably feel free to respond here or message me on SR, I am open to finding ways to improve customer experience.

Nod




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