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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: sofish89 on September 18, 2013, 02:49 am

Title: help with PGP`
Post by: sofish89 on September 18, 2013, 02:49 am
hey i just downloaded GPG4WIN and it came with Kleopatra and GPA and i tried opening kleopatra and GPA and i cant seem to figure out how to use the program from either one..
Can someone help me figure out how to use this program??
Title: Re: help with PGP`
Post by: Meerkovo on September 18, 2013, 02:54 am
Try using GPA.

1. Top menu > Key > New Key

You need your own key first, save that somewhere. When you proceed past this, post again, I will do my best to guide you. Best way to learn this is step by step.


Meerkovo
Title: Re: help with PGP`
Post by: Nightcrawler on September 18, 2013, 03:21 am
hey i just downloaded GPG4WIN and it came with Kleopatra and GPA and i tried opening kleopatra and GPA and i cant seem to figure out how to use the program from either one..
Can someone help me figure out how to use this program??

I wouldn't touch either GPG4WIN nor Kleopatra with a barge-pole. Use GPG4USB instead: http://gpg4usb.cpunk.de/index.html

You can find a tutorial for GPG4USB here: http://gpg4usb.cpunk.de/index.html (hat-tip to Astor).

Nightcrawler
4096R/BBF7433B 2012-09-22 Nightcrawler <Nightcrawler@SR>
PGP Key: http://qtt2yl5jocgrk7nu.onion/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB8F1D88EBBF7433B (IndyMedia .onion keyserver)
PGP Key: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=174.msg633090#msg633090     (Silk Road Forums PGP Key Link)
PGP Key Fingerprint = 83F8 CAF8 7B73 C3C7 8D07  B66B AFC8 CE71 D9AF D2F0

Title: Re: help with PGP`
Post by: sofish89 on September 19, 2013, 02:34 am
Try using GPA.

1. Top menu > Key > New Key

You need your own key first, save that somewhere. When you proceed past this, post again, I will do my best to guide you. Best way to learn this is step by step.


Meerkovo
okay  i made a key. i cant seem to be able to open it or see what my key is.
And why do they need my email to make a key? Can i give a random email or do they email me a copy of my key?
Title: Re: help with PGP`
Post by: sofish89 on September 19, 2013, 02:36 am
hey i just downloaded GPG4WIN and it came with Kleopatra and GPA and i tried opening kleopatra and GPA and i cant seem to figure out how to use the program from either one..
Can someone help me figure out how to use this program??

I wouldn't touch either GPG4WIN nor Kleopatra with a barge-pole. Use GPG4USB instead: http://gpg4usb.cpunk.de/index.html

You can find a tutorial for GPG4USB here: http://gpg4usb.cpunk.de/index.html (hat-tip to Astor).

Nightcrawler
4096R/BBF7433B 2012-09-22 Nightcrawler <Nightcrawler@SR>
PGP Key: http://qtt2yl5jocgrk7nu.onion/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB8F1D88EBBF7433B (IndyMedia .onion keyserver)
PGP Key: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=174.msg633090#msg633090     (Silk Road Forums PGP Key Link)
PGP Key Fingerprint = 83F8 CAF8 7B73 C3C7 8D07  B66B AFC8 CE71 D9AF D2F0
whats wrong with GPG4WIN?
Title: Re: help with PGP`
Post by: astor on September 19, 2013, 03:21 am
whats wrong with GPG4WIN?

It's more buggy than GPG4USB. The tutorial that I wrote almost a year ago is actually here now: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=206998.msg1487769#msg1487769
Title: Re: help with PGP`
Post by: livestr0ng on September 19, 2013, 04:36 am
If you're going to use GPG4WIN, you might as well just use TAILS, IMO.
Title: Re: help with PGP`
Post by: sofish89 on September 19, 2013, 05:16 am
ok i read the tutorials and i think i understand most of it but i still dont get how to post my public key or how to get it so i can give it to someone?
Title: Re: help with PGP`
Post by: NickNack on September 19, 2013, 05:24 am
ok i read the tutorials and i think i understand most of it but i still dont get how to post my public key or how to get it so i can give it to someone?

So you're using GPG4Win?...

Open up GPA.  Right click on your key that you want to use, select copy, then paste the public key where ever you want.

If using gpp4usb:  Right click on your key that you want to use, select "Append Selected Key to Text"... and now you should see your public key in the text box on the left.  Copy and paste it if you wish.
Title: Re: help with PGP`
Post by: sofish89 on September 19, 2013, 05:30 am
its gpg4usb sorrry i shouldve clarified. Whats the whole thing about verifying part of your pgp? it said in the tutorial that in order to protect yourself from someone incriminating you that you should make a verify line, do most ppl do this?
Title: Re: help with PGP`
Post by: sofish89 on September 19, 2013, 05:31 am
oh and heres my public key in case anybody wants to send me a message and help me learn :)


-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (MingW32)

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mvag0Po=
=5paj
-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Title: Re: help with PGP`
Post by: NickNack on September 19, 2013, 05:54 am
its gpg4usb sorrry i shouldve clarified. Whats the whole thing about verifying part of your pgp? it said in the tutorial that in order to protect yourself from someone incriminating you that you should make a verify line, do most ppl do this?

You mean the "Verify" button on the menu bar?  In between the "Sign" button and the "File" button, right?

That's for like when DPR posts an important message on the forum...  you can check if the message posted is actually from him.  (and not someone pretending to be him)

Test it out:

-Find DPR's public key and Import it
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php?title=Trust_and_phishing

-Go to this old post from DPR:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=209981.msg1515993#msg1515993

-Copy it, then past into your GPG4usb text box on the left

-Click "verify"

See anything on the bottom?
Title: Re: help with PGP`
Post by: sofish89 on September 19, 2013, 06:04 am
is it supposed to say "error validating signature" or did i do something wrong?
Title: Re: help with PGP`
Post by: NickNack on September 19, 2013, 06:20 am
Did you copy the entire message?
 
From -------->"-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
                       Hash: SHA1"

Through and including ----->   "-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----"

?
Title: Re: help with PGP`
Post by: sofish89 on September 19, 2013, 06:29 am
nope but i did now. cool it worked. does dpr always put out messages like that?
Title: Re: help with PGP`
Post by: sofish89 on September 19, 2013, 06:30 am
cool thanks for all your help guys! I'm giving all you a +1
Title: Re: help with PGP`
Post by: NickNack on September 19, 2013, 06:44 am
nope but i did now. cool it worked. does dpr always put out messages like that?

Cool.  Glad you got it.

No, he doesn't always... but if it's like important stuff he will.
Title: Re: help with PGP`
Post by: livestr0ng on September 19, 2013, 08:00 am
cool thanks for all your help guys! I'm giving all you a +1
Right back at you :)
Title: Re: help with PGP`
Post by: Nightcrawler on September 20, 2013, 01:26 am
nope but i did now. cool it worked. does dpr always put out messages like that?

Usually, but not always. When they forget, they usually get taken to the woodshed by the likes of people like me, and then they edit the message to include a PGP signature.

Nightcrawler
4096R/BBF7433B 2012-09-22 Nightcrawler <Nightcrawler@SR>
PGP Key: http://qtt2yl5jocgrk7nu.onion/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB8F1D88EBBF7433B (IndyMedia .onion keyserver)
PGP Key: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=174.msg633090#msg633090     (Silk Road Forums PGP Key Link)
PGP Key Fingerprint = 83F8 CAF8 7B73 C3C7 8D07  B66B AFC8 CE71 D9AF D2F0