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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: 420SLINGER on August 01, 2013, 04:41 pm

Title: TORMAIL DOWN AGAIN?????????????????/
Post by: 420SLINGER on August 01, 2013, 04:41 pm
IS TORMAIL DOWN AGAIN?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Title: Re: TORMAIL DOWN AGAIN?????????????????/
Post by: terpene on August 01, 2013, 05:10 pm
Yes it is, and has been for hours, the stinking piece of unreliable shit.

terp
Title: Re: TORMAIL DOWN AGAIN?????????????????/
Post by: MrPsych on August 01, 2013, 05:21 pm
yup, it's probably under attack... one would assume the government are trying to access someones tormail account
Title: Re: TORMAIL DOWN AGAIN?????????????????/
Post by: Xennek on August 01, 2013, 08:01 pm
tormail has not been reliably accessible for the past few days... can anyone reccomend a different secure Tor webmail service to use or at least to have as a backup? Thanks
Title: Re: TORMAIL DOWN AGAIN?????????????????/
Post by: Amadeus on August 01, 2013, 08:40 pm
It didn't work for me either. I don't know if someone's attacking it or something. Good thing I almost don't use it for most messaging things.
Title: Re: TORMAIL DOWN AGAIN?????????????????/
Post by: MrPsych on August 01, 2013, 11:01 pm
Don't know of any on tor, however plenty of clear net providers that you can access through tor, most of which are servered in countries that would not give out account info to any law enforcements in USA or UK unless huge amounts of pressure was forced upon them and if you use encryption and back up you're personal keys etc then you're safe.

For more info message me.

With love
Psych
Title: Re: TORMAIL DOWN AGAIN?????????????????/
Post by: Mcrad on August 02, 2013, 12:47 am
Well. i was logging in to try and get my Localbitcoin account info when i keep getting a 503 service error

glad to know im not alone though.

Lets hope its back up soon, but even when it does come back. will it be safe to use?

Much love_mcrad!
Title: Re: TORMAIL DOWN AGAIN?????????????????/
Post by: frank88 on August 02, 2013, 07:25 am
need alternatives?
Title: Re: TORMAIL DOWN AGAIN?????????????????/
Post by: MrPsych on August 02, 2013, 08:23 am
a few alternatives...
lavabit.com
mail.ru
securenym.net (costs money for account)

Pretty sure you can access them all through tor...

Do you're research, and remember when it comes down to it you need to encrypt everything sensitive no matter what provider you use.

With love
Psych

Title: Re: TORMAIL DOWN AGAIN?????????????????/
Post by: Mcrad on August 02, 2013, 09:10 am
Riseup.net is also solid. but you must wait for your account to be approved before you can login (which is honestly a feature i like)


Much love_mcrad!
Title: Re: TORMAIL DOWN AGAIN?????????????????/
Post by: slash on August 02, 2013, 10:49 am
this website says it s up http://www.websitedown.info/tormail.org

one of the annoying thing is that there is no info as to why it is down and how long is this going to be

Title: Re: TORMAIL DOWN AGAIN?????????????????/
Post by: astor on August 02, 2013, 11:41 am
The hidden service is down. Strange timing that Freedom Hosting is also down. I don't remember FH ever being down this long.
Title: Re: TORMAIL DOWN AGAIN?????????????????/
Post by: Nightcrawler on August 02, 2013, 09:31 pm
The hidden service is down. Strange timing that Freedom Hosting is also down. I don't remember FH ever being down this long.

I'm now getting the following error message:

Down for Maintenance

Sorry, This server is currently offline for maintenance.
Please try again in a few hours.

Just tried another site (presumably hosted by Freedom Hosting) and got the very same error message. I suspect that this is the hoster's error message, not that of Tormail.

Nightcrawler
4096R/BBF7433B 2012-09-22 Nightcrawler <Nightcrawler@SR>
PGP Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB8F1D88EBBF7433B      (MIT clearnet keyserver)
PGP Key: https://keys.indymedia.org/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB8F1D88EBBF7433B    (IndyMedia https: clearnet keyserver)
PGP Key: http://qtt2yl5jocgrk7nu.onion/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB8F1D88EBBF7433B (IndyMedia .onion keyserver)
PGP Key: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=174.msg633090#msg633090     (Silk Road Forums PGP Key Link)
PGP Key Fingerprint = 83F8 CAF8 7B73 C3C7 8D07  B66B AFC8 CE71 D9AF D2F0
Title: Re: TORMAIL DOWN AGAIN?????????????????/
Post by: slash on August 03, 2013, 06:20 pm
can anyone confirm tormail is still down please?

Im also  getting the above message  today.

going crazy...


thanks
Title: Re: TORMAIL DOWN AGAIN?????????????????/
Post by: MrPsych on August 03, 2013, 06:41 pm
Still down.
Title: Re: TORMAIL DOWN AGAIN?????????????????/
Post by: HeatFireFlame on August 03, 2013, 06:47 pm
Its just not loading for me, Been 3 fucking days now...
Title: Re: TORMAIL DOWN AGAIN?????????????????/
Post by: slash on August 03, 2013, 06:56 pm
Still down.

cheers
Title: Re: TORMAIL DOWN AGAIN?????????????????/
Post by: anontoker on August 03, 2013, 10:31 pm
This explains it. Repost from the newbie section (not mine).

Quote
http://newsiiwanaduqpre.onion/
http://www.reddit.com/r/onions/comments/1jmrta/founder_of_the_freedom_hosting_arrested_held/

Freedom hosting and tormail is compsomised by the FBI!
Thats why tormail is down.
Title: Re: TORMAIL DOWN AGAIN?????????????????/
Post by: cyanspore on August 04, 2013, 01:08 am
looks like Tormail might be gone for while because of the Freedomhosting bust

I never actually used Tormail tho, but my PGP key is tied to that email addy. Anybody think that could be a problem even if Tormail servers get seized and compromised?

I mean the private part of the key isn't stored there or anything
Title: Re: TORMAIL DOWN AGAIN?????????????????/
Post by: Nightcrawler on August 04, 2013, 03:56 am
looks like Tormail might be gone for while because of the Freedomhosting bust

Gone for a while?  No. I would bet that Tormail has breathed its last. The operator is likely hunkering-down, trying to assure their own safety. Even in the event that the service should be resurrected, I would be wary of using it.

I never actually used Tormail tho, but my PGP key is tied to that email addy. Anybody think that could be a problem even if Tormail servers get seized and compromised?

I mean the private part of the key isn't stored there or anything

Since you haven't used it, your risk is very low.

Nightcrawler
4096R/BBF7433B 2012-09-22 Nightcrawler <Nightcrawler@SR>
PGP Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB8F1D88EBBF7433B      (MIT clearnet keyserver)
PGP Key: https://keys.indymedia.org/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB8F1D88EBBF7433B    (IndyMedia https: clearnet keyserver)
PGP Key: http://qtt2yl5jocgrk7nu.onion/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB8F1D88EBBF7433B (IndyMedia .onion keyserver)
PGP Key: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=174.msg633090#msg633090     (Silk Road Forums PGP Key Link)
PGP Key Fingerprint = 83F8 CAF8 7B73 C3C7 8D07  B66B AFC8 CE71 D9AF D2F0
Title: Re: TORMAIL DOWN AGAIN?????????????????/
Post by: HeatFireFlame on August 04, 2013, 01:23 pm
And thats Tormail fucked for good. we need an alternative pronto.

heres what i found in newbie section.

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=195641.0
Title: Re: TORMAIL DOWN AGAIN?????????????????/
Post by: goblin on August 04, 2013, 04:21 pm
I had always thought tormail was an independent hidden service. But now it's been conjectured that it was hosted on FH.

Couldn't the tormail operator simply resurrect tormail as a hidden service? My understanding is that it's not that complicated.

If it is resurrected, how would we know that in fact it's now a hidden service? More to the point, even if it is, though, how would we know it's not compromised?

goblin
Title: Re: TORMAIL DOWN AGAIN?????????????????/
Post by: HeatFireFlame on August 04, 2013, 04:33 pm
I had always thought tormail was an independent hidden service. But now it's been conjectured that it was hosted on FH.

Couldn't the tormail operator simply resurrect tormail as a hidden service? My understanding is that it's not that complicated.

If it is resurrected, how would we know that in fact it's now a hidden service? More to the point, even if it is, though, how would we know it's not compromised?

goblin

My point preciselt Goblin, We wouldent know, So we wouldent know whether to trust it or not, And personally i dont want to take the chance, like i bet most others arent, So we need an alternative asap