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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: Watchman Calling on December 18, 2012, 09:03 am

Title: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: Watchman Calling on December 18, 2012, 09:03 am
Guys, this place is compromised - the gig is up.  How you people cannot see that in November too many things changed too quickly is a sign that overall you have become too lax with your expectations and your water is boiling beyond your ability to see through your drug and profit induced haze.

All you big timers who are getting retardedly rich throwing pounds of this stuff around the mail will dismiss this and will get what is coming to you.  Those of you who like me who were here because it fascinated you or you're just curious, do yourself a favor and walk now while you still can. Go back to local sources, or clean up and move on with your life.

I had an account on the main site and an account on the forums here until my own supply line from Mr Ouid came under surveillance a little while ago.  This guy was by far the nicest guy I've never known, and I hope to god i'm wrong, but when too many *extremely* unlikely things happen in quick succession, you have to separate yourself from the rest of the pack and take a renewed interest in your personal freedom above your temporary satisfaction.

I hope I'm wrong, but guys, come on.  What did you think would happen?
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: gazwel on December 18, 2012, 09:26 am
Why is it always people with one post that post this shit? Since November I have had over 10 deliveries no problem from the same guys I always use.
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: Macmeth on December 18, 2012, 09:35 am
Jesus Fuckin Christ man its Xmas, get yourself down to your local church and nuzzle up for some Hyms, they go well with restricted reasoning and tunnel vision. I bet your not even wired so this is a clear lucid thought for you ie no excuse for such nonsense. You better get off the road before some one offers you some drugs!
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: aaa123321 on December 18, 2012, 09:42 am
Why is it always people with one post that post this shit? Since November I have had over 10 deliveries no problem from the same guys I always use.

Because they are total morons and they do not want us to know they are this fucking stupid with there "real" accounts. This post makes no sense. We will never get rid of people like this. They  get high (like all of us) and then make these crazy post.

People do not fully understand TOR. They also do not realize how many packages are mailed every day.

Also do you notice how 99% of the time it is always members that weed is there drug of choice. Or should I say the drug they were on/ ordering when they came up with there theory.

I have read where members believe that certain things bring more scrutiny to packages and it is just totally insane to believe that. Packages going to and from USA have a 99.9999999% chance of going through. And if the package is just pills then it is as close to 100% as you can get to being delivered. There really is little to no risk ordering off SR. I guess people just want to believe and talk about bad things.
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: Theophilus on December 18, 2012, 09:48 am
Guys, this place is compromised - the gig is up.  How you people cannot see that in November too many things changed too quickly is a sign that overall you have become too lax with your expectations and your water is boiling beyond your ability to see through your drug and profit induced haze.

All you big timers who are getting retardedly rich throwing pounds of this stuff around the mail will dismiss this and will get what is coming to you.  Those of you who like me who were here because it fascinated you or you're just curious, do yourself a favor and walk now while you still can. Go back to local sources, or clean up and move on with your life.

I had an account on the main site and an account on the forums here until my own supply line from Mr Ouid came under surveillance a little while ago.  This guy was by far the nicest guy I've never known, and I hope to god i'm wrong, but when too many *extremely* unlikely things happen in quick succession, you have to separate yourself from the rest of the pack and take a renewed interest in your personal freedom above your temporary satisfaction.

I hope I'm wrong, but guys, come on.  What did you think would happen?

Dude, get some fucking sleep.

Before the Shadow-People get you.
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: c3ri110 on December 18, 2012, 09:53 am
Well, If you consider that SR its a black market, it will be always under constant attacks since calling the authority is out of the question. It is simply an easy target. However, this does not looks like a big deal as long as you do not send any money to any of those funny addresses.
 
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: thecrackhead on December 18, 2012, 10:02 am
I think your mom's vagina is compromised...I might be wrong though I'll see tonight. Cheers
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: Fat_Speedy_Guy on December 18, 2012, 12:05 pm
I think your mom's vagina is compromised...I might be wrong though I'll see tonight. Cheers

Think DPR's compromising her already at the mo and for all foreseeable futue, Whilst his market is compromised.
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: AnonymousAddict on December 18, 2012, 01:37 pm
Only times there is really issues are on Mondays!! And its probley their weekly time their work on the place and try to do it without interruption.In nov i made 6 purchases ,this month just since last week iv got over 7 come in from USA ,netherlands and waiting on from EU..I have had no issues at all.. Other then the every monday BS.. I do believe this place could be shutdown and figured out in due time, im not saying its untoucable forever but it doesnt seem like its been fully compromised other than by some so called hackers trying their best to fuck something up. If it was law Well they would im sure do investigation for a good while or eaither shut it down.. Not sure which.. But me being just a small time buying, fuck it.. My drugs come i take them within a few days and its done.. Im not saying to be to relax cause what were all involved with is highly Illegal and Is pissing alot of Gov officials off cause of are brazingness as they say. But for fucks sake drugs have been sold on the net for years just not with a System such as this one thats actual like a business instead of a fly by night and u snooz u loose type deal.. And to the OP why is it always a newbie who has hardly ever said anything who points these issues out? R u actually another Long time user just doesnt wanna use his real name?
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: ronswanson77 on December 18, 2012, 02:02 pm
Jesus, give it a rest will you?  Every time the site is down for five minutes everyone goes all chicken little on the forums.
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: modziw on December 18, 2012, 02:31 pm
Okay everyone, I admit it! You got me!

I am the OP and I freaked the fuck out because I was smoking so much of my AWESOME Bilbo Baggins hydro weed. Grown in the waters of the Brandywine River, where The Shire meets the lands beyond.

You really need to try my weed, it will take you on an unexpected adventure!

That's why I made the ridiculous post ;-)

Buy some now and you too can freak the fuck out (or learn to speak Elvish).

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/532b6763d5

Modzi

Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: Limetless on December 18, 2012, 02:33 pm
Lol shut the fuck up OP.
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: Wadozo on December 18, 2012, 02:36 pm
Guys, this place is compromised - the gig is up.  How you people cannot see that in November too many things changed too quickly is a sign that overall you have become too lax with your expectations and your water is boiling beyond your ability to see through your drug and profit induced haze.

All you big timers who are getting retardedly rich throwing pounds of this stuff around the mail will dismiss this and will get what is coming to you.  Those of you who like me who were here because it fascinated you or you're just curious, do yourself a favor and walk now while you still can. Go back to local sources, or clean up and move on with your life.

I had an account on the main site and an account on the forums here until my own supply line from Mr Ouid came under surveillance a little while ago.  This guy was by far the nicest guy I've never known, and I hope to god i'm wrong, but when too many *extremely* unlikely things happen in quick succession, you have to separate yourself from the rest of the pack and take a renewed interest in your personal freedom above your temporary satisfaction.

I hope I'm wrong, but guys, come on.  What did you think would happen?

If you are not confident in your ability to remain anonymous then it is best you go elsewhere. The site has not been compromised and your theory is based on speculation alone. Mrouid is a very professional vendor and certainly knows what he is doing. What has happened for you to suggest "your supply line from mrouid has come under surveilance" or are you speculating on what might have happened? Your freedom is reliant on your ability to remain anonymous and the use of some COMMON SENSE. If your not able to so, then by all means head back to IRL sellers.
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: danconia on December 18, 2012, 03:44 pm
*Grabs Popcorn*

I almost enjoy SR going down occasionally just to see the kooks that come out of the woodwork.  Of course once SR is up again they'll all disappear again.

And typically they start new accounts because having 1 post because they're actually embarrassed of what they're saying, even as they're typing it.  Whoop dee doo SQL injection attack, the site will come back like it always does.  Those of us who have experienced this before have planned ahead and already have enough supply to last us a good month.
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: brusselsprout on December 18, 2012, 04:22 pm
Okay everyone, I admit it! You got me!

I am the OP and I freaked the fuck out because I was smoking so much of my AWESOME Bilbo Baggins hydro weed. Grown in the waters of the Brandywine River, where The Shire meets the lands beyond.

You really need to try my weed, it will take you on an unexpected adventure!

That's why I made the ridiculous post ;-)

Buy some now and you too can freak the fuck out (or learn to speak Elvish).

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/532b6763d5

Modzi
Damnnn... no Bilbo to the UK :(

How the fuck will I get my ring sorted now?
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: 20247245 on December 18, 2012, 05:19 pm

Dude, get some fucking sleep.

Before the Shadow-People get you.

WHO THE FUCK ARE THE SHADOW PEOPLE AND HOW DO I KEEP THEM AWAY?
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: Nightcrawler on December 18, 2012, 05:24 pm

Dude, get some fucking sleep.

Before the Shadow-People get you.

WHO THE FUCK ARE THE SHADOW PEOPLE AND HOW DO I KEEP THEM AWAY?

Show 'em the cat in yoru avatar -- they HATE cats. And they HATE  being hugged. And most of all, they HATE cats who give hugs.

NC
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: kitkat82 on December 18, 2012, 05:28 pm

Dude, get some fucking sleep.

Before the Shadow-People get you.

WHO THE FUCK ARE THE SHADOW PEOPLE AND HOW DO I KEEP THEM AWAY?

Show 'em the cat in yoru avatar -- they HATE cats. And they HATE  being hugged. And most of all, they HATE cats who give hugs.

NC

THIS!

They also hate valium.
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: Funbagz on December 18, 2012, 05:42 pm
to the OP:
Did you need to create a false identity before you told your parents that you were Gay?
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: Magic Moments on December 18, 2012, 05:49 pm
From what we have been reading on the forums, even if Silk Road had been compromised, as long as the users are following the rules about PGP and the vendors are being safe there should be no real problem for us.

Is this true? I mean, even if it was the pigs running the site now, what could they really do?
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: modziw on December 18, 2012, 06:11 pm
From what we have been reading on the forums, even if Silk Road had been compromised, as long as the users are following the rules about PGP and the vendors are being safe there should be no real problem for us.

Is this true? I mean, even if it was the pigs running the site now, what could they really do?

So true.

I would be happy to buy drugs from the feds. Worked for my Dad after Vietnam. Worked for my brother who bought all those guns from the ATF to sell in Mexico. It will work for us.

Too bad so many don't use PGP - it's a life-saver.

Modzi
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: Defron on December 18, 2012, 07:08 pm
To be Frank, Nobody can bust this site.  You can bust dealers.  So dealers just take basic precautions and nobodys going no were, you know what I'm saying.  All this site is an EBAY of people. 
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: Wadozo on December 18, 2012, 07:27 pm
To be Frank, Nobody can bust this site.  You can bust dealers.  So dealers just take basic precautions and nobodys going no were, you know what I'm saying.  All this site is an EBAY of people.

I wouldn't say "Nobody can bust this site". There is always the possibility, especially with the invention of new technology and techniques as they are developed. We should never get complacent with our SR activities and always expect the unexpected. You can bet your bottom dollar that somewhere in the world the Authorities are trying to devise a way to take the site down. The resources at their disposal will undoubtedly hinge on the budget they have but don't for one second assume they are sitting idle. I guarantee you there NOT. We all just need to keep our eyes and ears open and stay vigilant.  :)
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: Harmful Hits on December 18, 2012, 07:27 pm
This is an underground website so its only natural that it gets attacked.

I have full faith in DPR and SR. I believe this issue will be handled promptly by competent individuals.
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: 420SLINGER on December 18, 2012, 07:56 pm
Why is it always people with one post that post this shit? Since November I have had over 10 deliveries no problem from the same guys I always use.

Because they are total morons and they do not want us to know they are this fucking stupid with there "real" accounts. This post makes no sense. We will never get rid of people like this. They  get high (like all of us) and then make these crazy post.

People do not fully understand TOR. They also do not realize how many packages are mailed every day.

Also do you notice how 99% of the time it is always members that weed is there drug of choice. Or should I say the drug they were on/ ordering when they came up with there theory.

I have read where members believe that certain things bring more scrutiny to packages and it is just totally insane to believe that. Packages going to and from USA have a 99.9999999% chance of going through. And if the package is just pills then it is as close to 100% as you can get to being delivered. There really is little to no risk ordering off SR. I guess people just want to believe and talk about bad things.

there really is little to no risk ordering off SR are you fucking stupid

what if your vendor was arrested and instead of ordering drugs from your normal vendor you're ordering it from LE you think just because you send your address in PGP format that nobody but the vendor can read it all the cops have to do is tell the vendor give us the key or we will keep you in jail for eternity until you do give us the key  dip Shit
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: metaphoe on December 18, 2012, 08:05 pm
 8)

i got my tin foil hat and im ready for the cyborgs to take over, but can this all wait till' after X-Mas ?

That BiLBO BAGGIN'S gots to start write'n the HOBBIT 2 for me
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: Wadozo on December 18, 2012, 08:11 pm
Why is it always people with one post that post this shit? Since November I have had over 10 deliveries no problem from the same guys I always use.

Because they are total morons and they do not want us to know they are this fucking stupid with there "real" accounts. This post makes no sense. We will never get rid of people like this. They  get high (like all of us) and then make these crazy post.

People do not fully understand TOR. They also do not realize how many packages are mailed every day.

Also do you notice how 99% of the time it is always members that weed is there drug of choice. Or should I say the drug they were on/ ordering when they came up with there theory.

I have read where members believe that certain things bring more scrutiny to packages and it is just totally insane to believe that. Packages going to and from USA have a 99.9999999% chance of going through. And if the package is just pills then it is as close to 100% as you can get to being delivered. There really is little to no risk ordering off SR. I guess people just want to believe and talk about bad things.

there really is little to no risk ordering off SR are you fucking stupid

what if your vendor was arrested and instead of ordering drugs from your normal vendor you're ordering it from LE you think just because you send your address in PGP format that nobody but the vendor can read it all the cops have to do is tell the vendor give us the key or we will keep you in jail for eternity until you do give us the key  dip Shit

Seriously, what the fuck is your problem!! Read and learn about the subject of each thread your posting in before posting such bullshit. I know your new, but your posting incorrect information and creating hysteria over a topic to which you have no factually correct information. Until DRR makes a statement, lay off champ and give him/her a go. If not, go elsewhere and post your dribble.
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: muckefuck on December 18, 2012, 08:22 pm
Seriously, what the fuck is your problem!! [...]

Let me guess... Got it!

His amount on using punctuation marks is exceeded! Too bad. xD
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: Nightcrawler on December 18, 2012, 11:04 pm
From what we have been reading on the forums, even if Silk Road had been compromised, as long as the users are following the rules about PGP and the vendors are being safe there should be no real problem for us.

Is this true? I mean, even if it was the pigs running the site now, what could they really do?

The problem with your scenario is that, according to multiple vendors who have posted about this, somewhere between 75 and 90% of buyers do NOT use PGP to encrypt even their shipping address information. I have seen multiple threads where vendors have lamented this fact, and wondered aloud why it is that so many people simply refuse to do the right thing, and use PGP?

Some vendors on here just refuse to use PGP, and insist that their customers use dodgy sites like Privnote.com.

A few months back, there was a post by an Aussie gent (Winters86) who made some interesting claims:

- They claimed they were from a family with several members who are high-ranking officials within Australian law enforcement.

- They claimed to have seen a confidential report discussing potential strategies for combatting sites that vend drugs through the mail, and that use Bitcoin. Silk Road was specifically mentioned.

- The two most salient points they made were as follows:

  1. PGP is terrifying them, every new user who learns it and helps others learn, closes a possible loophole they where planning to exploit.

  2. User ignorance of the technology being used (Tor, PGP etc) is the their single best hope for any kind of serious action against the SR community.

  Security / Australian LE Report on BC/SR
  « on: August 26, 2012, 01:11 AM »
  http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=38319.msg431562#msg431562
 
I would have thought that the publication of this information would have led DPR to change their stance on PGP -- I had hoped that they might see fit to make its use mandatory. Unfortunately, that was not to be. Many people appear to view PGP as a nuisance, instead of the superb security tool that it is. Without direction coming from the top, it would appear that widespread adoption is simply not going to happen.

As much as it pains me to say this, DPR's attitude is actually aiding and abetting law enforcement.

The long and the short of it is, that people who have used their heads, and followed best practices, have relatively little to fear. Unfortunately, those people appear to be only a tiny minority.

Although the instructions when signing up for a Forum account are quite explicit --warning people not to use a real email address -- nevertheless thousands of people on the site _have_ used real, traceable clearnet email addresses.

If the Forum membership database is ever hacked/breached, it's gonna be a literal bonanza for law enforcement.

NC
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: 20247245 on December 19, 2012, 11:50 am
Shadow people?

Its the Black Eyed Children you have to watch for!

Are the black eyed children the ones that created the terror that is the Black Eyed Peas and Justin Bieber?
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: Catgoesmeow on December 21, 2012, 01:05 am
Lol shut the fuck up OP.

Enough said.
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: davidkelly on December 21, 2012, 02:36 am
I have read where members believe that certain things bring more scrutiny to packages and it is just totally insane to believe that. Packages going to and from USA have a 99.9999999% chance of going through. And if the package is just pills then it is as close to 100% as you can get to being delivered. There really is little to no risk ordering off SR. I guess people just want to believe and talk about bad things.

Actually, it is true certain things do bring more attention to packages. Things like heavy and excessive amounts of tape, handwritten labels, return address that doesn't exist, return address that doesn't match the region package was mailed from. The USPS has drug package profiles, you can read about it online. Mailing packages that fit the profile increase the (very small) risk of a package being intercepted.

But other than that you are 100% correct. The average number of mailpieces processed each DAY by the USPS is 563 MILLION. Items packaged correctly mailed within the USA  have a 99.999% chance of not being intercepted.
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: Roger on December 21, 2012, 03:24 am
I was visited by law enforcement this week, and for the sake of the site I hope it was the result of errors by the relatively inexperienced seller I took a chance on, and nothing more than that. If a seller is busted and has your address lying around then it's your fault for putting faith in such a guy. A simple interception is very unlikely but not out of the question, but again it's on the seller and I don't doubt the trust generated by many sellers here. Like many I'm complacent and didn't use PGP, obviously it could have reduced the chances of me being flagged and I've taken responsibility for that, narrowly avoiding arrest. My fault, but with the strange happenings on SR and wider attention to the site you can't help but wonder what varied interests are coming into play here, and how they're doing it.
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: mushitup on December 21, 2012, 03:26 am
Fucking a, mtlsavile's tactics are getting worse and worse.
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: PeterPanPB on December 21, 2012, 04:18 am
Why is it always people with one post that post this shit? Since November I have had over 10 deliveries no problem from the same guys I always use.


;) I have delivered and received more than that 
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: NorE on December 21, 2012, 04:26 am
*Puts on tinfoil hat
Title: Re: Silk Road Compromised
Post by: Leapfrogger on December 21, 2012, 05:04 am
The problem with your scenario is that, according to multiple vendors who have posted about this, somewhere between 75 and 90% of buyers do NOT use PGP to encrypt even their shipping address information. I have seen multiple threads where vendors have lamented this fact, and wondered aloud why it is that so many people simply refuse to do the right thing, and use PGP?

[...]

As much as it pains me to say this, DPR's attitude is actually aiding and abetting law enforcement.

The long and the short of it is, that people who have used their heads, and followed best practices, have relatively little to fear. Unfortunately, those people appear to be only a tiny minority.

Bruce Schneier wrote about this on his blog semi-recently: It's not so much about giving users the option to protect themselves; it's about forcing them to do it, or at least nudging them in the right direction.

I think at the very least there should be a mention of PGP on the Shopping Cart page above the box where you paste your address. So instead of:

Quote
Please enter your name and address
as it would be written on a letter:

you would see something like:

Quote
Please enter your name and address
as it would be written on a letter.
You may enter this data unencrypted (not recommended),
or you may first encrypt the data using the vendor's PGP public key.
(To learn more about how and why you should use PGP, click _here_.)

This way SR is unlikely to lose any business as they would with a policy of "PGP or GTFO", but you're at least pointing casual users in the right direction. A good compromise, which is what security is all about, right?  :)