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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: thecrackhead on December 15, 2012, 05:49 pm

Title: Dread Pirate Roberts we need answers!
Post by: thecrackhead on December 15, 2012, 05:49 pm
I am talking on behalf of SR community and I know people will agree with me!
No, I do not have a paranoid personality but things are getting weird!

First, all the MODS magically get demoted. They were the persons talking to you often, they knew the way you speak and how you handle things. They were the persons that would have warned us in case SR would have been compromised, they would have noticed. We don't know whom to ask if we need things sorted on the forum.

E.g last week one vendor updated a photo on the forum without removing the GPS coordinates from it. I warned Guru about the situation and he edited and removed the photo from the forum. The vendor is safe, thanks to that small edit.

Second, Asylum's friend warned us about him getting arrested and everything being compromised. Later Asylum posts on the forum that his account was actually hacked. Funny, he was a good vendor and I highly doubt that he would have fallen a victim to the recent phising website. How do we know for sure LE did not takeover his activity? PGP? Nope that would not answer our question as his PGP could also be compromised.

I believe that first persons getting busted on SR would become an example. By example I mean they will get maximum sentences to warn people, we are growing and we all know it. SR would eventually become mainstream it's natural. This means that police will put lots of effort and resources in stopping this. I am not saying they will stop it but as you, DPR said "there will be many fights".

I believe we need some updates when major things like removing all the mods happen.

Thank you in advance.

Long live Silk Road!





Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts we need answers!
Post by: Ballzinator on December 15, 2012, 06:37 pm
Yeah, I'd love a few words from DPR just to calm my nerves :-\
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts we need answers!
Post by: SelfSovereignty on December 15, 2012, 06:55 pm
I half expected to get banned because of the post(s) I made in that mods discussion thread.  But nothing.  Not a goddamn thing.  I take that as a good sign, believe it or not -- personally I think everything I said would actually help keep DPR a touch safer for people to popularly believe.  If I got banned for it, it would mean something really was wrong...

... or maybe I'm just speaking too soon.  But honestly guys, I wouldn't hold your breath.  It's in his best interests, whoever "he" is (or ever was), to take the opportunity that's presented itself here.  This way if he ever gets found, they'll have a hard time charging him for having started it altogether.  At least they can't do something like charge him with treason (he's violating US int'l treaties, isn't he?)... right?  ... I think?  Maybe?  lol, wtf do I know... like I've ever been involved in the kind of trial DPR would be facing.  ::)
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts we need answers!
Post by: Ballzinator on December 15, 2012, 07:23 pm
I half expected to get banned because of the post(s) I made in that mods discussion thread.  But nothing.  Not a goddamn thing.  I take that as a good sign, believe it or not -- personally I think everything I said would actually help keep DPR a touch safer for people to popularly believe.  If I got banned for it, it would mean something really was wrong...

... or maybe I'm just speaking too soon.  But honestly guys, I wouldn't hold your breath.  It's in his best interests, whoever "he" is (or ever was), to take the opportunity that's presented itself here.  This way if he ever gets found, they'll have a hard time charging him for having started it altogether.  At least they can't do something like charge him with treason (he's violating US int'l treaties, isn't he?)... right?  ... I think?  Maybe?  lol, wtf do I know... like I've ever been involved in the kind of trial DPR would be facing.  ::)
He'd probably be charged with conspiracy to distribute drugs.
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts we need answers!
Post by: SelfSovereignty on December 15, 2012, 07:29 pm
Well, he himself states that he's out to start -- and finish -- a "revolution."  He's trying to subvert the law of the United States of America.  He's almost declaring peaceful war.

... I think they could really charge him with treason and kill him if they wanted to enough.
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts we need answers!
Post by: longissimus on December 15, 2012, 10:37 pm
If people didn't put up videos on youtube about SR, maybe it would still be on the DL and not growing as fast. This will make it mainstream quick.
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts we need answers!
Post by: wretched on December 15, 2012, 10:44 pm
If people didn't put up videos on youtube about SR, maybe it would still be on the DL and not growing as fast. This will make it mainstream quick.

Why would the operator of the site (or the vendors selling on it) want the site to be on the DL and not growing? They only make money if there are customers buying, and the only way to get customers is to advertise the site. This was proven in the early days when Silk Road gave an interview to gawker against the advise of other members who wanted it to remain small and secretive. Without that interview, the site may well have fizzled off and died, then where would the many people who have joined since then be?
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts we need answers!
Post by: SelfSovereignty on December 15, 2012, 10:50 pm
If people didn't put up videos on youtube about SR, maybe it would still be on the DL and not growing as fast. This will make it mainstream quick.

Why would the operator of the site (or the vendors selling on it) want the site to be on the DL and not growing? They only make money if there are customers buying, and the only way to get customers is to advertise the site. This was proven in the early days when Silk Road gave an interview to gawker against the advise of other members who wanted it to remain small and secretive. Without that interview, the site may well have fizzled off and died, then where would the many people who have joined since then be?

Fuck me, DPR gave some kind of interview?   :o
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts we need answers!
Post by: Funbagz on December 15, 2012, 10:52 pm
If people didn't put up videos on youtube about SR, maybe it would still be on the DL and not growing as fast. This will make it mainstream quick.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe keeping this place a secret is/was in DPR's playbook.
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts we need answers!
Post by: Limetless on December 15, 2012, 10:53 pm
If people didn't put up videos on youtube about SR, maybe it would still be on the DL and not growing as fast. This will make it mainstream quick.

Why would the operator of the site (or the vendors selling on it) want the site to be on the DL and not growing? They only make money if there are customers buying, and the only way to get customers is to advertise the site. This was proven in the early days when Silk Road gave an interview to gawker against the advise of other members who wanted it to remain small and secretive. Without that interview, the site may well have fizzled off and died, then where would the many people who have joined since then be?

+1
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts we need answers!
Post by: wretched on December 15, 2012, 10:55 pm
Fuck me, DPR gave some kind of interview?   :o

I can't tell if you are joking or not with that post. My sarcasm meter goes on the fritz when I'm high, but yes the first public interview about SR came from SR.
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts we need answers!
Post by: NOTspacecase on December 15, 2012, 11:35 pm
Yep, for some reason people seem to think sr is a super secret drug club when actuality we're already main stream, shit, there's been loads of articles on sr by huge media groups. It's not a secret anymore and it's been that way for quite some time. Get over it hipsters.
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts we need answers!
Post by: eddiethegun on December 15, 2012, 11:46 pm
Fuck me, DPR gave some kind of interview?   :o

I can't tell if you are joking or not with that post. My sarcasm meter goes on the fritz when I'm high, but yes the first public interview about SR came from SR.

link?
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts we need answers!
Post by: inigo on December 15, 2012, 11:56 pm
Try to understand that these are very busy times. An update will come, just have patience my friends.
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts we need answers!
Post by: wretched on December 15, 2012, 11:58 pm
**clearnet link**

http://gawker.com/5805928/the-underground-website-where-you-can-buy-any-drug-imaginable
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts we need answers!
Post by: OzFreelancer on December 16, 2012, 12:18 am
**clearnet link**

http://gawker.com/5805928/the-underground-website-where-you-can-buy-any-drug-imaginable

One line is hardly 'an interview'.  Closest I've seen is quotes from "an administrator" in this (post-Gawker) article:  http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/local_news/investigations/silk-road-website-called-the-amazon-ebay-of-heroin-cocaine-drug-trafficking#ixzz27NxS3qz7
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts we need answers!
Post by: wretched on December 16, 2012, 12:50 am
The gawker article came out due to the writer having discussions with SR. Maybe calling it an interview was incorrect, but it was discussed at length on the forum (when the forum was part of the store and not separate) and SR decided to have talks with the reporter...anyway my point is still valid.
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts we need answers!
Post by: SelfSovereignty on December 16, 2012, 12:52 am
Try to understand that these are very busy times. An update will come, just have patience my friends.

I find it very unfair that by using the names and mental images of these people I feel like I know and love, I'm all but forced to trust you.  "But the Inigo Montoya I know wouldn't lead me astray, everything HAS to be okay...!"

... you suck, and that is all I have to say about that.


P.S. - dude, this is so a joke and I hope you know that -- I'm all for personal freedom and think it's a great service to mankind that this site does.  Just keeping it light :)
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts we need answers!
Post by: kitkat82 on December 16, 2012, 03:15 am
**clearnet link**

http://gawker.com/5805928/the-underground-website-where-you-can-buy-any-drug-imaginable

One line is hardly 'an interview'.  Closest I've seen is quotes from "an administrator" in this (post-Gawker) article:  http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/local_news/investigations/silk-road-website-called-the-amazon-ebay-of-heroin-cocaine-drug-trafficking#ixzz27NxS3qz7

I just read that article. 

The "addiction counselor" (read: a former addict who is now in recovery and is a miserable tool) responds to a rational, logical statement from one of the SR admins in a predictable and brainwashed way,

He (SR administrator)  responded, “I am so sorry if someone you know has been hurt by drugs, but it is my sincere hope that by making drugs available in a safe, secure, and predictable way, that we will eliminate the violence and danger of obtaining and using drugs through traditional methods. We also hope that, by increasing competition for providing drugs in our marketplace, the quality will rise and price will drop, so that addicts can afford the drugs they need and still have money left over to live a normal life, without as much danger of overdose."

“I see that as insanity. It makes absolutely no sense at all. This is what this person will say to justify his behavior, and it’s completely irresponsible,” VanBomel (idiot who is so miserable being sober that he has to work at a rehab and go to 12 step meetings when he isn't working).

then the douche also says "You cannot possibly offer acid to people and think that’s helpful,” VanBomel said.

What a giant asshole.



Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts we need answers!
Post by: SelfSovereignty on December 16, 2012, 03:27 am
**clearnet link**

http://gawker.com/5805928/the-underground-website-where-you-can-buy-any-drug-imaginable

One line is hardly 'an interview'.  Closest I've seen is quotes from "an administrator" in this (post-Gawker) article:  http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/local_news/investigations/silk-road-website-called-the-amazon-ebay-of-heroin-cocaine-drug-trafficking#ixzz27NxS3qz7

I just read that article. 

The "addiction counselor" (read: a former addict who is now in recovery and is a miserable tool) responds to a rational, logical statement from one of the SR admins in a predictable and brainwashed way,

He (SR administrator)  responded, “I am so sorry if someone you know has been hurt by drugs, but it is my sincere hope that by making drugs available in a safe, secure, and predictable way, that we will eliminate the violence and danger of obtaining and using drugs through traditional methods. We also hope that, by increasing competition for providing drugs in our marketplace, the quality will rise and price will drop, so that addicts can afford the drugs they need and still have money left over to live a normal life, without as much danger of overdose."

“I see that as insanity. It makes absolutely no sense at all. This is what this person will say to justify his behavior, and it’s completely irresponsible,” VanBomel (idiot who is so miserable being sober that he has to work at a rehab and go to 12 step meetings when he isn't working).

then the douche also says "You cannot possibly offer acid to people and think that’s helpful,” VanBomel said.

What a giant asshole.

It really angers me that such a ridiculously unfounded counter statement to a perfectly logical argument goes unchallenged.  I mean really.  It's terribly upsettting.  The statement about Silk Road's intended consequences was spot on.  I mean I buy my meth here exclusively, and it gets better and cheaper all the fucking time.  It works.  Period.

Why do they want me to kill myself faster instead of slower and more productive?  They're so mean... :(
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts we need answers!
Post by: longissimus on December 16, 2012, 05:28 am
If people didn't put up videos on youtube about SR, maybe it would still be on the DL and not growing as fast. This will make it mainstream quick.

Why would the operator of the site (or the vendors selling on it) want the site to be on the DL and not growing? They only make money if there are customers buying, and the only way to get customers is to advertise the site. This was proven in the early days when Silk Road gave an interview to gawker against the advise of other members who wanted it to remain small and secretive. Without that interview, the site may well have fizzled off and died, then where would the many people who have joined since then be?
my bad, then
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts we need answers!
Post by: Nightcrawler on December 16, 2012, 07:27 am
Try to understand that these are very busy times. An update will come, just have patience my friends.

You appear to be arguing the fact that you are very busy, and implying that you do not have the time to keep your customers updated. Yet, somehow, there seems to be little shortage of time to endlessly debate the Libertarian equivalent of "How many Angels can dance on the head of a pin?" in DPR's various Book Club threads.

From all appearances, it would seem that customer communications takes a back-seat to debates about minutiae of Libertarian philosophy.
So, it's not a question of not having enough time, it's a question of resource allocation: in other words, deciding what is important to you.
As the old adage goes, "Actions speak louder than words."

NC
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts we need answers!
Post by: tor12345 on December 16, 2012, 12:01 pm
no matter what you can always look back and feel great about your decision to name youselves after pirates. just brilliant.
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts we need answers!
Post by: nomad bloodbath on December 16, 2012, 02:12 pm
Hi gang, sorry i've not been around this week i was really bad off with strep throat.

This is the first thread i saw an opened so i'm starting here and I assume I have agiagantor road ahead of me to get to everyone's questions and issues, I'll start by saying I don't really have an answers myself for many of the questions but I of any of the memebers of the community can surely shed some light and apply logic to the situation and ease some minds.

First I'd like to say that the members in general shouldnt worry too much you are not gonna be arrested for silk road unless you are purchasing above personal amounts. If LE was going after Silk Road it would be the leaders. I consider myself in a leadership position having being the original moderator and the only SR forum staff member that has been here since day one. Never the less i do not believe I would be targeted as a leader  to arrest as I am a mere forum moderator and have nothing to do with anything that happens on  Silk Road Marketplace except for the few legal products I offer in my modest profile. I occasionally purchase small personal amounts of whatever I'm in the mood for and I consume it far from public in my home were i am usually behind the keyboard like at this moment.  Which brings me to a rather obvious point i'd like to share not only to average silkroad member that simply wants to stay home and relax from the what is every climbing stressful country we live in the domestic US. I feel this a is where the true revolution begins with SIlk Road, it allows common people of our nature the safety of not having to go out into the crazy world and illegally purchase simple chemicals to increase our quality of life and it also allows us to stay home and not be in public were incidents could occur that would have negative outcomes for in numerous variety of ways. To me this is the way a logical war on drug related accidents should be started instead of the drugs themselves. It solves the demon aspect that we get
portrayed.
Why take a away freedoms when this country could be adding to the freedoms and create a new system to help lower the debt wars of all kind have dragged this country to it's current state.

So let me assure you all I am here and I will continue to be here to help spread information and knowledge I have and dispel misinformation which seems have been growing the more the membership grows. Yes the title is gone above the moderator)s) name but I personally don't care for titles which generally create an idea that because this person has this title then what they say must be true, It's classic misdirection in most cases in an unusual place.

To the older members you know me well served the forum community selflessly since it's creation in hopes to help and educate the community to grow and prosper in a positive manner that even I do not know of it truly unlimited potential.

To the newer members that may not have seen me around as much or even know of my history here and how much time I volunteer here with passion to see that both the customers and vendors are both not only kept inline but that both sides are treated as equals and not with either side having a dominating force as to give the community power not individuals. It is the members of the forum I volunteer for not Silk Road so feel free to PM me with your own questions if you can not find them using the search function which works excellently in almost all cases.


I hope this helps to calm some that seem to feel abandoned by  the real leaders of Silk Road that are in a constant state of repair, I believe at this moment there are two glitches in the listing one is with having to enter shipping areas every time you make a new listing...some reason the defaults arent working and second glitch i know of is that thew listings are gong up with out postage options which shouldnt happen.
If you find bugs or glitches on the marketplace please take it upon yourself to report them top SR Support via PM.


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nomad bloodbath