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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: g30duck on October 08, 2012, 01:01 am
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Hello, I am trying to understand the system and am using GPG4win. I have been able to generate a public key (I think) but not a private key. Could someone answer the questions below from a GPG4win standpoint where applicable?
i) How can I create a private key? The part in Kleopatra where one clicks on "File" tab and selects "New Certificate" comes up with "Create a personal openPGP key pair" and "Create a personal x.509 key pair and a certification request". I used the first one to create the public key but have failed in making a private one.
ii) For what do I use a private key for?
iii) While I'm at it, I can try and create an encrypted message for anyone that wants to help me send and receive my first encrypted email (I posted a message for pine at the PGPClub but she's either not around or busy so...).
iv) Thanks...
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RUN > GPA.EXE
That is what you use to create your key. You do not need one right now unless you plan on receiving encrypted messages.
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Try sending me a message, This is my public key. I can only decode messages on a computer where my private key is present.
recap:
Public key - used for people to send messages to you.
Private key - has to be present in order to decode a message.
-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux)
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=BaT8
-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
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Hello wayne, thanks for offering to help. I have encoded the below message to your key (and mine) so...were you able to decipher it?
-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----
Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32)
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w6EW
=dMpr
-----END PGP MESSAGE-----
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Private key - has to be present in order to decode a message.
and wayne, when I drag my mouse over my keys, GNU says "The key has both a private and a public part" so do you know if this means that one does not separately create a prvate key? As in when one creates a public key, the private key is already in there?
Or am I not making any sense here?
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Private key - has to be present in order to decode a message.
and wayne, when I drag my mouse over my keys, GNU says "The key has both a private and a public part" so do you know if this means that one does not separately create a prvate key? As in when one creates a public key, the private key is already in there?
Or am I not making any sense here?
The private and public keys are both generated at the same time. Do yourself a favor-- ditch gpg4win, and Kleopatra; use gpg4usb instead. Kleopatra is garbage.
gpg4usb homepage: http://gpg4usb.cpunk.de/index.html
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The private and public keys are both generated at the same time. Do yourself a favor-- ditch gpg4win, and Kleopatra; use gpg4usb instead. Kleopatra is garbage.
gpg4usb homepage: http://gpg4usb.cpunk.de/index.html
Thanks nc but why is GPG4win garbage? I mean it works so? (I'm not trying to be weird, just trying to understand)
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The private and public keys are both generated at the same time. Do yourself a favor-- ditch gpg4win, and Kleopatra; use gpg4usb instead. Kleopatra is garbage.
gpg4usb homepage: http://gpg4usb.cpunk.de/index.html
Thanks nc but why is GPG4win garbage? I mean it works so? (I'm not trying to be weird, just trying to understand)
gpg4win works, but the problem is that its' interface sucks. IIRC, Kleopatra is installed by default. Kleopatra operates using the clipboard (as do most gpg frontends) but the problem is, that when you encrypt or decrypt, while the data is transformed on the clipboard, you don't get any feedback from Kleopatra that it has done anything. Guru has pointed out that Kleopatra also generates old-style RSA keys.
gpg4usb, on the other hand, is much more intuitive, and easy to use, even for newbies. You have a toolbar at the top of the screen, and two panes. The left pane is where you compose or paste your message, and the right pane shows the keys on your pgp keyring. To encrypt a message to someone, all you have to do is compose it in the left pane, put a check in the box beside the keys you want to encrypt to in the right-hand pane, and click the encrypt button. It doesn't get any easier than that.
The typical newbie can be up and running in 30 seconds with gpg4usb. If people were using gpg4usb instead of gpg4win, more than 90% of the threads on here pleading for help with gpg would simply not exist.
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Fear stalls all but a few.
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Fear stalls all but a few.
Indeed....thanks wayne
And hi everyone, I'm here for a couple of hours and can help out if you want to try your hand at sending encrypted messages. My public key is below:
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Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32)
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=ma/H
-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
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Fear stalls all but a few.
Indeed....thanks wayne
And hi everyone, I'm here for a couple of hours and can help out if you want to try your hand at sending encrypted messages. My public key is below:
-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32)
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=ma/H
-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----
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-----END PGP MESSAGE-----
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That's true nc, just testing is all...I will create a key with appropriate information once I get past the testing stages.
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That's true nc, just testing is all...I will create a key with appropriate information once I get past the testing stages.
Fair enough.