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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: nwportlandguy on October 02, 2012, 06:05 pm
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I FE'd on a couple stamps supposedly sent priority 6 days ago. He promised a free bag in my next order for doing it, and I was curious to test his integrity and honesty so I went ahead with it. It was only a couple stamps, anyway. Then, the next day, his vendor page said he was requiring FE on all orders. At that point I new it wasn't coming, but I still gave him a week before bashing him in the forums, just to be fair. So, if this 2 BTC loser actually responds to me and tries to rectify, then I'll edit, but I doubt we'll see this guy again. ::)
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I also placed an order Thursday, and had asked if he could express ship it so that it would arrive by Sat. Paid him an extra 2.5 BTC for the extra cost plus labor, as I am a fair man and only had 1.54 to give him on Thursday. Told him I'd give him the extra coin on Friday, which he said was fine and so I did. It has still not come in, which means it obviously wasn't sent express, or at all. He hasn't answered either of my messages requesting to check the DCN for its status, which is another bad sign. I'm getting a bit worried - hopefully this turns out to be just poor communication and standards of business, and not a scam.
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nope he's definitely scamming.. all of his listings have been erased and he's now in stealth mode -___-
he got away with 135$ moneypak from me.... i should have came here first to know this... im literally so pissed right now..
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Also waiting for a small amount from leo, I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. I'll update/reply if it arrives.
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You may not like the sound of this but I blame you idiots for FErly. That's what you get for being nice to low life scum bags. Do you guys have millions to burn or something? How can you hand over your coins first to an unknown vendor just like that? I think you deserve to be scammed just by not using common sense and logic. Sorry but he's laughing all the way to the bank right now.
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Sorry to hear you guys got burned :( hopefully you all didn't lose to much. Please don't ever FE for any vendor no matter how much you trust them or how much they promise to add to your order, escrow is there for a reason!
Anyways, sorry guys :( thanks for at least coming to the forums and warning other buyers.
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i was asked to fe for being new so i cooperated...my order was supposedly in transit 8 days ago u.s. to u.s. but ive heard nothing : ( sucks to lose out on my first order...seemed like a nice guy, maybe he'll still send? i doubt it though....probably establishing himself with a new seller account to repeat the process...
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As much as it sucks, let it be a learning experience. I was scammed by SR's very first scammer over a year ago...the illustrious maxx vendor...the very name STILL pisses me off...but I have yet to FE for ANYONE since...with my stats, fuck em if they don't let me stay in escrow, because there are other vendors who will
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i was asked to fe for being new so i cooperated...my order was supposedly in transit 8 days ago u.s. to u.s. but ive heard nothing : ( sucks to lose out on my first order...seemed like a nice guy, maybe he'll still send? i doubt it though....probably establishing himself with a new seller account to repeat the process...
There's lots of vendors who won't ask you to FE even if you are new, I did my very first transactions with Moxycotton, Hatter26, and Seneca and none of them asked me to FE.
That sucks man, hope you didn't lose out on to much...definitely keep up to date with everything that's going on by reading these forums and if a vendor asks you to FE just tell them to cancel your order so you can order off of someone else.
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You may not like the sound of this but I blame you idiots for FErly. That's what you get for being nice to low life scum bags. Do you guys have millions to burn or something? How can you hand over your coins first to an unknown vendor just like that? I think you deserve to be scammed just by not using common sense and logic. Sorry but he's laughing all the way to the bank right now.
Blster666 - why do you feel the need the be such a giant cock smoker? Obviously we understand the rationale behind FE/not-FE. Some are just naturally more trusting than others. Also, when a vendor has a 100% feedback rating, and everyone who led to that had to FE, its a little harder making that judgement call. Should we have FE'd? Probably not. Even I knew that. But I wanted my god damn dope. But what the fuck kind of point are you making besides the obvious? If I had half a mind I'd say you're the forum-profile of LSMD who's coming back to the scene of the crime to laugh it up.
I view the Road like the stock market. Sometimes you've gotta take a risk to get the best deal, and sometimes that risk gets you burned. That's what we get for playing with money as we do. Are you so risk-averse you wouldn't invest in penny-swing stocks? I'm not.
Srsly tho, eat a dick. Come back when you have something relevant to add to this discussion.
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Yeah , I got burned on 10 bags and express shipping .. I went against my instincts and FE'd for my first time because he seamed legit.. It pisses me off , but , I only have myself to blame . Live and learn .
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Well, it's frealsies. His account is completely gone.
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You may not like the sound of this but I blame you idiots for FErly. That's what you get for being nice to low life scum bags. Do you guys have millions to burn or something? How can you hand over your coins first to an unknown vendor just like that? I think you deserve to be scammed just by not using common sense and logic. Sorry but he's laughing all the way to the bank right now.
I agree with GeorgeCostanza. blster666, you can fuck off. you're not helping anybody with your negativity. People are already mad at themselves for getting burned. In my case, it was only an order for 2 stamps, and I'm not sure I would have tarnished my perfect 0% refund rate over 2 BTC... especially when I already had a decent amount of good H already on the way from legit vendors. Only the 2nd time I FE'd and the first time was without incident (Delta11: totally legit). And the noobies that lost over 10 BTC in one transaction don't need salt rubbed in the wound. It really isn't easy for new peeps right now with all the reverse scamming going on. More and more legit vendors are requiring FE from new buyers. Some people here are also new to online buying in general. I know I've made more buys from SR in the last month than my previous lifetime internet buys combined!
So take your judgey bullshit somewhere else and eat a dick, you fucking bully.
Everybody else have a great day and newbs consider yourself warned on all manners of Finalizing Early!
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Everyone who was affected needs to send me a PM here on the forums. With your address and your total spent. I will make this right as i had issues with my supply and LE.
Im sorry for anyone who did not get there stamps. I was able to get a few out though and if you did get yours please post it here to help clear my name a little bit.
I will ask that you resend the shipping costs, as my account was closed out and i will be coming out of my pocket to cover the stamps! So please send your reship money here: 1SasEJdniw339sxndedj3kd
I will reship as soon as i get the money in my account. Thanks!
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I will vouch for LeoSpaceman2. I was a very happy customer with my purchases of multiple stamp bags of powdered number four herion.
I would resend him the reship money because he will def do the right thing with this and make you all happycustomers!
Plus .100mg is super duper nodville even with my 300mg daily methadone!
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Everyone who was affected needs to send me a PM here on the forums. With your address and your total spent. I will make this right as i had issues with my supply and LE.
Im sorry for anyone who did not get there stamps. I was able to get a few out though and if you did get yours please post it here to help clear my name a little bit.
I will ask that you resend the shipping costs, as my account was closed out and i will be coming out of my pocket to cover the stamps! So please send your reship money here: 1SasEJdniw339sxndedj3kd
I will reship as soon as i get the money in my account. Thanks!
There is an old saying: "Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. "
So, your account was closed out? Nothing to do with scamming, I suppose. Just a misunderstanding, I suppose.
Now, you state you've had a little trouble with LE, and you're asking people to send you their address info again, and a few coins to cover shipping. Just how stupid do you think people are? The cops could run a nice little sting op -- send your address again, and send money to cover shipping. Can you say conspiracy? You will just have given LE everything they need to bust you on conspiracy charges, if nothing else. Add in a controlled delivery, and voila -- instant bust!
Either way, whether scam or LE, the customer loses. No one in their right mind would ever trust you again.
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I will vouch for LeoSpaceman2. I was a very happy customer with my purchases of multiple stamp bags of powdered number four herion.
I would resend him the reship money because he will def do the right thing with this and make you all happycustomers!
Plus .100mg is super duper nodville even with my 300mg daily methadone!
Maybe you should change your handle to happycop or happyscammer. Just a suggestion.
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PM me your address and send me 2 BTC to cover the shipping!
I have got that flaming hot powdered No. 4!
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Thanks for making this right Spaceman!
PM'd u my address, and sent the BTC!
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NICE MARKED IN TRANSIT ALREADY!
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If it isn't obvious to everyone already, I'll state the obvious. This Leospaceman2 is just trying to run for a bit of more money, and I really expect "gotmine" and "happycustomer" are shill accts.
I know it's pretty obvious, just stating in case someone is retarded and actually sends bc to that address.
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Jesus fuckin christ.
What a shitshow. Don't give LeoSpaceman2 any BTC.
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LMAO! O-M-F-G! This has got to be the funniest/ most pathetic shit I have seen on here to date...These newly created accounts with one post "forrealz you can trust him this time" and then mr spaceman dog fucker, Send me coins to cover shipping...LMAO...eat me, you bag of shit, do you really think people are that dumb? Anyone who sends you their addy info and more coin deserves what they get. Go eat a can of botulism you scumbag...
P.S. just kidding, can I have one of these awesomesauce heroin bags? I will send you double if you send it faster, and I will even send you a couple more coins as a tip to show you how bad I feelz for all the bad luck you are having...poor wittle misuderstood scammer man...err...spaceman.
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Thanks Leo!
Really strong product and thanks for the express shipping! Very good product.
Everyone should send the 3 or 4 BTC over to the spacman for some really good el producto!
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Its 4 btc per reship. Send the btc first and then PM you address and how much you ordered!
No prob gotmine. Im glad you got yours, lol ;)
Now everyone else who was affected needs to get theres, lol ;)
Sickgirl- No prob! I will send you multiple stamp bags if you send the 4 btc over ASAP. Then whenever you have a chance... send me your addy through PM here on the forums, no rush as im not going anywhere!
Thanks! All and sorry again.
Gonna make this right!, lol ;)
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I will vouch for LeoSpaceman2. I was a very happy customer with my purchases of multiple stamp bags of powdered number four herion.
I would resend him the reship money because he will def do the right thing with this and make you all happycustomers!
Plus .100mg is super duper nodville even with my 300mg daily methadone!
no clue who this poster is, or who leospaceman is, but fact is 100mg (.1g) , for the author, could not even touch 300mg of methadone. even if it was 100% pure. its simple pharmacology and biokinetics, but no pharmacological way 70mg heroin could push past opiate receptors saturated with 300mg methadone (which binds longer, harder, and holds tight and keeps a mere 100mg heroin out. the research is all over the net, and its fact. soo i am calling major bullshit here
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Thanks spaceman!
Very cool of you to reship for only four measley BTC! Especially when my order was for a gram! So i got gram for 4 btc!
Awesome! Yea, i mean i didnt get my orginal order, but who cares! I mean i got it now and its very good product!
So who cares abiut the first screw up by Leo. Hes is trustyworthy now and really has strong no 4 powder.
Thanks again LSM!
Send him your coins!
And to the above poster about the methadone, i believe happy. I mean im on 250mg methadone and 50mg had me feeling nice with another 50 and i was nodding! I have 1000mg! YES! This is the best deal on SR. Who cares if he never shiped it the first time!
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leo- i just sent my 4 bit coin. I know you scammed a bunch of people, but are looking to do right. I originally sent you money for 2 kilos of the #4 fire, so make sure to send it asap. Don't be a Douche. If you can't send express, please just refund my money and we will be squared away. I sent you 10 million bitcoin before, so expect the refund by the end of the day if you can't ship.
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is this a level? i honestly cant tell. my best guess is this is a leospaceman imposter trying to re-scam on top of leo's scam. all these other people confirming are obviously schill accts. Either way this is by far the most pathetic attempt at a scam I have ever seen. If they get even 1 single person, then that person deserves to be scammed if they fall for this
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I will vouch for LeoSpaceman2. I was a very happy customer with my purchases of multiple stamp bags of powdered number four herion.
I would resend him the reship money because he will def do the right thing with this and make you all happycustomers!
Plus .100mg is super duper nodville even with my 300mg daily methadone!
no clue who this poster is, or who leospaceman is, but fact is 100mg (.1g) , for the author, could not even touch 300mg of methadone. even if it was 100% pure. its simple pharmacology and biokinetics, but no pharmacological way 70mg heroin could push past opiate receptors saturated with 300mg methadone (which binds longer, harder, and holds tight and keeps a mere 100mg heroin out. the research is all over the net, and its fact. soo i am calling major bullshit here
+1 all day long. I mean, I cannot believe the blatant, in your faceness of this bullshit scammer...all these new accounts, created today and yesterday, just to say "send him your coins!"...wow..and then this guy, who understands nothing obviously about the way pharmacology works, (which you really should, if your doing the shit)...unbelievable. What is it about this site that brings out the dipshits? Thank you for pointing out the saturated opiate receptors, I was about to say the same damn thing...xoxo sickgirl
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Thanks spaceman!
Very cool of you to reship for only four measley BTC! Especially when my order was for a gram! So i got gram for 4 btc!
Awesome! Yea, i mean i didnt get my orginal order, but who cares! I mean i got it now and its very good product!
So who cares abiut the first screw up by Leo. Hes is trustyworthy now and really has strong no 4 powder.
Thanks again LSM!
Send him your coins!
And to the above poster about the methadone, i believe happy. I mean im on 250mg methadone and 50mg had me feeling nice with another 50 and i was nodding! I have 1000mg! YES! This is the best deal on SR. Who cares if he never shiped it the first time!
and this guy is leo again ;) ... sup buddy, you are a poor poor scammer, you dont even have the brains to pull off a simple simple thing... poor you :( <in asian voice> : you sooo stupid!
all of you accounts funny how your accounts have the exact same grammer. etc...
chuckles
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I'll vouch for him, I received my stamps and they were pretty damn good.
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Leospacemanmd:
Are you going to address the $135 moneypak that a previous poster said you took without giving any BTC in return? Maybe you don't have the coin right now but I think you should message the person and make it right in some fashion. Perhaps you have a product they would take in lieu of the BTC.
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Leospacemanmd:
Are you going to address the $135 moneypak that a previous poster said you took without giving any BTC in return? Maybe you don't have the coin right now but I think you should message the person and make it right in some fashion. Perhaps you have a product they would take in lieu of the BTC.
Lol, dont even worry about it. I've already contacted Greendot/Moneypak and faxed my receipt and card and they will be investigating where the money was deposited to and where it went, email used, etc. Basically I should have an approximate dox on this scum and will post it here for all to do whatever you like. I might even contact a buddy to swat if i can get an address... should have just given me my BTC holmes.
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haha you dont even have to look at his grammar...look at his last shill acct....Leo=Lion....spaceman=astronautmale....2-too ....Leospaceman2 = Lionastronautmaletoo......sorry for pointing out the obvious lol....stoned haha
im on 65 mgs of methadone... .1of the best H doesnt touch me still...... i also like how "gotmine" said it was marked in transit after 1 minute haha... wow... sad sad stuff here ???
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I agree that it probably isn't the original leospacemanmd . and just some random douche bag trying to scam some coin ..
either way . it depresses me :'(
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I cant believe this is going on..
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This is really insulting a human being's intelligence.
No shame.
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hmmmm...seems that leospaceman is MIA all of the sudden.
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Thanks all who have trusted me again. I have sent those out ;)
You guys who are doubting me need to go ahead and send your 4 btc.
You will be pleasantly suprised with this super duper fire no 4 ;)
As for the MP. I never received any MP codes so i dont know what you are talking about. Perhaps you sent it to the wrong person through improper PM tactics?
There should be some new reviews coming in as ive sent out multiple orders since posting this. Everyone else need to send me there btc asap. I only have 25 grams left. Once its gone i cant make this right anymore.
Send me your btc first. Then at some point later, or tomorrow, send me your address as i need to "process" the btc before i can take your address and ship.
So again send me your btc, now prefereably, and then tomorrow or the next day...or later if you prefer ;), send me your address, preferably later ;)
Thanks all who are sending in the btc and keep em coming!
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YES! LSM IS DA MAN!!! ;)
I got mine too!
Seriously ya'll. This is a good deal! 4 btc got me my original 30 stamp bag order! Plus free express!
Yall are doubting thomas'sus. Send you BTC ASAP FOR FIRE!!!!
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YES! LSM IS DA MAN!!! ;)
I got mine too!
Seriously ya'll. This is a good deal! 4 btc got me my original 30 stamp bag order! Plus free express!
Yall are doubting thomas'sus. Send you BTC ASAP FOR FIRE!!!!
Liar. We have yet to see any trusted forum members come on here and say the same thing, just these 1 post, newly created shill accounts.
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YES! LSM IS DA MAN!!! ;)
I got mine too!
Seriously ya'll. This is a good deal! 4 btc got me my original 30 stamp bag order! Plus free express!
Yall are doubting thomas'sus. Send you BTC ASAP FOR FIRE!!!!
Hi LeoSpaceMan. Nice shill account...I see you just made the account today...do you REALLY think we are THAT stupid?
And 4BTC for shipping is egregious.
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And REALLY...REALLY?!
"Iloveheroin" is the most creative screenname you could come up with? It is like you aren't even trying to fool anyone. >:(
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I was so happy with my first reship, i had him reship again!
Sorry LSM, but you did scam some people (supposedely which i doubt because you are soo cool and hooking this great deal up), so I scammed you! Haha! Well i though i did at first.
I sent the 4 btc for the 2nd time, and then PM'd you my other shipping address and told you i ordered a gram! I was being dishonest and trying to scam you, but had a change of heart right before you shipped and i confessed.
Leo is so cool he said that was fine and reshipped again and threw in an extra half gram!!!!
I love you LSM ;)
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I was so happy with my first reship, i had him reship again!
Sorry LSM, but you did scam some people (supposedely which i doubt because you are soo cool and hooking this great deal up), so I scammed you! Haha! Well i though i did at first.
I sent the 4 btc for the 2nd time, and then PM'd you my other shipping address and told you i ordered a gram! I was being dishonest and trying to scam you, but had a change of heart right before you shipped and i confessed.
Leo is so cool he said that was fine and reshipped again and threw in an extra half gram!!!!
I love you LSM ;)
Ummmm...NOT.
This is lame. You are completely transparent.
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It is like you aren't even trying to fool anyone. >:(
He's not, and that's the thing. He is sitting there all fucking smug, like the little cock sucking ass that he is, and clapping himself on the back at how clever he is and how stupid people on the road are because he is getting away with it. What I would like to know is WHY DON'T THE FUCKING MODS DO SOMETHING?!?
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It is like you aren't even trying to fool anyone. >:(
He's not, and that's the thing. He is sitting there all fucking smug, like the little cock sucking ass that he is, and clapping himself on the back at how clever he is and how stupid people on the road are because he is getting away with it. What I would like to know is WHY DON'T THE FUCKING MODS DO SOMETHING?!?
If it is any consolation he obviously dumber than shit and leads a pathetic, miserable life.
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LMFAO!
No one is that stupid.
That btc address is fake and this scam is just fucking funny as hell. Good eye ya'll. ;)
FUCK LEOSPACEMAN FOR THE SCAMMING PIECE OF SHIT HE IS!
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And REALLY...REALLY?!
"Iloveheroin" is the most creative screenname you could come up with? It is like you aren't even trying to fool anyone. >:(
Dude to be honest I don't think he ist. He's just having a fun time fucking with people. lol
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I highly doubt its even lsm thats posting this shit..... And wtf is with all the ;)'s LOL!!!!
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I highly doubt its even lsm thats posting this shit..... And wtf is with all the ;)'s LOL!!!!
he's making a pass at us... wink wink...
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WHAT!!!??
HOW DARE YOU! WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU ACCUSING ME OF?????
IVE GOT ORDERS PACKED AND READY FOR DISTRIBUTION!
SEND YOU BTC TO THIS ADDRESS:
1assdD34sddjh392k1k3n
4 btc gets you a gram!!!! DOnt even care if you ordered before because everyone obv thinks im a scammer. So the first real person to send me those btc get a gram!
YOU WILL LOVE THIS FIRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHOOSH!!!!
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WHAT!!!??
HOW DARE YOU! WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU ACCUSING ME OF?????
IVE GOT ORDERS PACKED AND READY FOR DISTRIBUTION!
SEND YOU BTC TO THIS ADDRESS:
1assdD34sddjh392k1k3n
4 btc gets you a gram!!!! DOnt even care if you ordered before because everyone obv thinks im a scammer. So the first real person to send me those btc get a gram!
YOU WILL LOVE THIS FIRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHOOSH!!!!
exactly what I thought...
ok, sent 4 bitcoins, where is my shit? Let's see it, I sent the coin, sooooo? exactly what I thought...
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WHAT!!!??
HOW DARE YOU! WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU ACCUSING ME OF?????
IVE GOT ORDERS PACKED AND READY FOR DISTRIBUTION!
SEND YOU BTC TO THIS ADDRESS:
1assdD34sddjh392k1k3n
4 btc gets you a gram!!!! DOnt even care if you ordered before because everyone obv thinks im a scammer. So the first real person to send me those btc get a gram!
YOU WILL LOVE THIS FIRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHOOSH!!!!
Send it to someone for free who has a good post count and has been around for longer than 1-3 days(like sick girl). If you do that then I will apologize and retract my statement.I don't do H, but until you send some product to someone for FREE to prove you are not a total POS scammer then you need to go DIAF.
Yeah, I though so...you can't do that because you don't have any product and you are a THIEF and a coward.
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Wow... I haven't checked the forums in a few days and I come back to this! LOL. The original LSM is really a 2 bit loser, and whoever it is trolling this thread needs a job, or at least a hobby. If it is the same guy, you're not nearly as clever as you think, you fucking scamming loser. Pulling some little bullshit scam doesn't make you smart at all, and the joke will be on you when you're making daily trips to the methadone clinic and suckin' dicks for a few stamps. Haha! I'll never cease to be amazed at the losers that exist on the internet... so pathetic! These guy(s) need a girlfriend!!
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I will vouch for LeoSpaceman2. I was a very happy customer with my purchases of multiple stamp bags of powdered number four herion.
I would resend him the reship money because he will def do the right thing with this and make you all happycustomers!
Plus .100mg is super duper nodville even with my 300mg daily methadone!
no clue who this poster is, or who leospaceman is, but fact is 100mg (.1g) , for the author, could not even touch 300mg of methadone. even if it was 100% pure. its simple pharmacology and biokinetics, but no pharmacological way 70mg heroin could push past opiate receptors saturated with 300mg methadone (which binds longer, harder, and holds tight and keeps a mere 100mg heroin out. the research is all over the net, and its fact. soo i am calling major bullshit here
Right on!
I also just had to respond to you and +1 for your 'Raleigh Theodore Sakers' signature ;))
EDIT: Well the +1 is here in the forums ... I actually can't figure out how to up/down karma ... I assume it's because I am new?
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I will vouch for LeoSpaceman2. I was a very happy customer with my purchases of multiple stamp bags of powdered number four herion.
I would resend him the reship money because he will def do the right thing with this and make you all happycustomers!
Plus .100mg is super duper nodville even with my 300mg daily methadone!
no clue who this poster is, or who leospaceman is, but fact is 100mg (.1g) , for the author, could not even touch 300mg of methadone. even if it was 100% pure. its simple pharmacology and biokinetics, but no pharmacological way 70mg heroin could push past opiate receptors saturated with 300mg methadone (which binds longer, harder, and holds tight and keeps a mere 100mg heroin out. the research is all over the net, and its fact. soo i am calling major bullshit here
Right on!
I also just had to respond to you and +1 for your 'Raleigh Theodore Sakers' signature ;))
EDIT: Well the +1 is here in the forums ... I actually can't figure out how to up/down karma ... I assume it's because I am new?
Once you have 100 posts you will be able to give positive or negative karma. It shows under the name as "thank" and "discourage"
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I will vouch for LeoSpaceman2. I was a very happy customer with my purchases of multiple stamp bags of powdered number four herion.
I would resend him the reship money because he will def do the right thing with this and make you all happycustomers!
Plus .100mg is super duper nodville even with my 300mg daily methadone!
no clue who this poster is, or who leospaceman is, but fact is 100mg (.1g) , for the author, could not even touch 300mg of methadone. even if it was 100% pure. its simple pharmacology and biokinetics, but no pharmacological way 70mg heroin could push past opiate receptors saturated with 300mg methadone (which binds longer, harder, and holds tight and keeps a mere 100mg heroin out. the research is all over the net, and its fact. soo i am calling major bullshit here
Right on!
I also just had to respond to you and +1 for your 'Raleigh Theodore Sakers' signature ;))
EDIT: Well the +1 is here in the forums ... I actually can't figure out how to up/down karma ... I assume it's because I am new?
Once you have 100 posts you will be able to give positive or negative karma. It shows under the name as "thank" and "discourage"
Thanks Kit!