Quote from: astor on September 14, 2013, 01:10 amI am unapologetically pro-censorship in the sense that everyone has a right to control their own property however they want. I would personally never knowingly host cp, since I'm against it, just as I would never knowingly host shock/violent images and videos, but I don't think the government should be dictating whether you are allowed to view such images. If we banned all speech that offended / emotionally harmed someone, there wouldn't be much speech left. A woman with an uncovered face offends some people. Well said. Where I would differ with you is that you may not understand how the laws are interpreted and drafted. When most people think of child pornography, they think in terms of images of children being raped. Most people would not think of Anime or Manga, nor would they consider text-only stories. In Canada, ALL of these are child pornography. SInce our child pornography law was originally passed in 1993, it has been revised multiple times, to make it increasingly harsh. Several years back, the "artistic merit" defence was removed. Eli Langer, a noted visual artist, had a display at Toronto's Mercer Union art gallery; the gallery was raided, and the artwork seized as the paintings and drawings involved adult/child sex. Langer's intent was to graphically display the horror of child sexual abuse, but his intent was irrelevant -- he was still prosecuted under Section 163.1 of the Criminal Code, Canada's child pornography law. The Canadian artistic community rallied around Langer, who was acquitted, as his works were proven to have artistic merit. Were Langer to do a similar show today, he would be convicted, as the law no longer allows for an artistic merit defence. Even in the U.S., there have been convictions for Anime/Manga. Perhaps most shocking of all is the McCoy case. The McCoy case is the first successful conviction for text-only obscenity in over 35 years, since Miller v. California, in 1973. Earlier this year, Frank Russell McCoy was convicted in Georgia Federal Court of obscenity. He wrote a series of stories (NOT illustrated, text-only) involving explicit sexual activity between adults and children. Mr. McCoy is a resident of Minnesota -- the Feds tried having him prosecuted in his home state, and failed. Even in Georgia, they had to judge-shop -- trying no less than 3 judges before they would find one that would sign an arrest warrant. He has now been sentenced to 18 months in prison, and followed by two years of probation, for writing stories, which were distributed over the Internet. McCoy's stories included disclaimers, describing the types of content to be found in the stories, so no one who read them would be caught unaware. The judge actually argued in his judgment, that the very existence of these disclaimers was evidence that McCoy knew that the stories were obscene. I think what the Feds were after in this case was to enable the judging of materials as "obscene" by the standards of the most restrictive jurisdiction they could find in the United States, thus effectively doing away with the idea of "community standards". Quote from: astor on September 14, 2013, 01:10 amThe more important point is that the same technology protects both the pedos and the druggies. So you can view the mass shutdown of cp sites in onionland as the canary in the coal mine. Right now it looks like the canary has died, and that doesn't look good for us. As I have said for years: either EVERYONE is safe or NO ONE is safe. Nightcrawler4096R/BBF7433B 2012-09-22 Nightcrawler <Nightcrawler@SR>PGP Key: http://qtt2yl5jocgrk7nu.onion/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB8F1D88EBBF7433B (IndyMedia .onion keyserver)PGP Key: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=174.msg633090#msg633090  (Silk Road Forums PGP Key Link)PGP Key Fingerprint = 83F8 CAF8 7B73 C3C7 8D07 B66B AFC8 CE71 D9AF D2F0