Quote from: onesickpuppy on July 10, 2013, 11:15 pmQuote from: neo67 on July 10, 2013, 10:50 pmonesickpuppy, is this because the site went down just...well maybe ownership has changed hands but somebody is just keeping it going how it wasbefore and it is not in the hands of the DEA!?! Maybe you are just being paranoid! what reasons do you have for believing in this and what 'strange' things have been happening?Please tell.Hi Neo,I don't believe in coincidences. I'm simply saying that should the DEA own the SR platform, PGP won't help at all since they will be able to control what is in a vendor's page. Buyers will be encrypting messages against the key placed on a vendor's page. If this is not happening now, then if the DEA EVER owns this, this is what they'll do. Got it?Onesickpuppy, what you are describing is a classic man-in-the-middle (MITM) attack. MITM attacks are the reason that the concept of the PGP Web of Trust was developed, to prevent MITM attacks such as you have described. That is the reason that out-of-band confirmation of PGP Key-ID/Fingerprint is so often recommended. Unfortunately, the problem is that the Web of Trust was originally designed to be applied to non-anonymous real-world identities, where the parties could confirm the key information by alternate means "out of band" means (e.g. in-person, phone, fax, etc.) This becomes problematic when one is dealing with anonymous entities, such as those doing business here on Silk Road. That said, I suspect that a DEA takeover is a worst-case scenario, and rather unlikely. I believe that if the DEA were able to compromise SR, they would do so in the least-intrusive manner possible, operating it so as to arouse the least suspicion, and thus maximizing their haul from their data mining operations, prior to shutting SR down in the most public way possible. What I believe to be far more likely would be the bust of one or more large vendors, with law enforcement taking over their accounts and using these to snare some of their larger customers. Even the DEA doesn't have the resources to go after everyone -- there are only so many hours in the day, there are only so many boots that can be put on the ground. Like everyone else, they want the maximum bang for their buck. Nightcrawler4096R/BBF7433B 2012-09-22 Nightcrawler <Nightcrawler@SR>PGP Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB8F1D88EBBF7433B   MIT clearnet keryserverPGP Key: https://keys.indymedia.org/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB8F1D88EBBF7433B  (IndyMedia https: clearnet keyserver)PGP Key: http://qtt2yl5jocgrk7nu.onion/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB8F1D88EBBF7433B (IndyMedia .onion keyserver)PGP Key Fingerprint = 83F8 CAF8 7B73 C3C7 8D07 B66B AFC8 CE71 D9AF D2F0