Quote from: bincofone on November 15, 2012, 08:34 amQuote from: frank-butcher24 on November 14, 2012, 09:57 pmIt is utterly bizarre to me that anyone could think an NHS is a bad thing.Waiting lists kill people. If you've got 12 month waiting lists and only 3 months till you're gonna die unless you have surgery, you're fucked. The lack of paying for the service leads to overuse of the service which only increases waiting times further. Waiting lists are a form of rationing. Here we use wait-lists, in the U.S. you use ability to pay. Quote from: bincofone on November 15, 2012, 08:34 amIn Canada for example, you can get an MRI for a dog on the same day, but if you're a human you've gotta wait about a month. I'd rather human health care be of a bit higher quality, or at least the same as vetenary care (not that I don't care about animals level of care!). This is complete and utter bullshit -- that is a Fox News right-wing talking point. I live in Canada. My wife collapsed one day, and she was given an MRI within an hour, after being transported to hospital by ambulance. Your position in the queue is determined by medical need. She needed an MRI immediately, so she got one immediately. Nightcrawler