Quote from: fuckthepolice101 on July 29, 2012, 07:15 amQuote from: Imaginarytailus13 on July 29, 2012, 05:43 amQuote from: DankSources on July 29, 2012, 05:29 amthe cheapest android phone, that you can make encrypted end-to-end calls on.Looks like we have an answer.+1 Infact ANY phone that you can make *free* encrypted end to end calls on. Through Wifi.Does anyone have any suggestions? This is a really good question and the hardware is there - but what software do we use.Silent Circle costs money (when it comes out) Silent Circle should be starting up in a few weeks. As much as I love Phil, and appreciate what he's done in the past, I wouldn't touch Silent Circle with a bargepole, at least insofar as illegal activity is concerned. Phil was on the Board of Directors of Hushmail when the DEA's Operation Raw Deal went down in 2007. At the time, Phil defended Hushmail, saying they had no option but to cooperate, as they weren't a sovereign country. On Silent Circle's web page, they make mention of having servers in Canada, allegedly out of the reach of American authorities. Please remember people, this was the very same claim that Hushmail users relied upon, until the DEA made use of the MLAT agreement between the U.S. and Canada to force Hushmail to knuckle-under. Anyone foolish enough to use Silent Circle for drug-related activities may find history repeating itself. (Neither Phil, nor anyone else for that matter, is going to risk going to jail to protect users of their service who are engaged in illegal activity.)Quote from: fuckthepolice101 on July 29, 2012, 07:15 amHere are some links for encrypted VoIP:http://www.cellcrypt.com/http://zfoneproject.com/ <- goodBut yeah, what hardware will run the software is the question. Also, what hardware/software combo is the best to use?Ufortunately, the Zfoneproject is dead. If you go to the download page, you will see the following message: QuoteProblems with Our Download Server29 January 2011 - Sorry, but our download server is offline. We were using a download server at PGP Corp for many years, but they were acquired by Symantec in June 2010, and yesterday their download server became no longer available to us. To replace the special functionality of the PGP download server, we need to set up a new download server that is compliant with US export controls. It will take some effort to set up another server with all the "due diligence" checks in place, so this may take quite a bit of time to resolve.We will remove this error notice when the problem has been fixed..When we get the new download server running, it will have to implement all the due-diligence measures that PGP Corp used on their server. Their server checks your IP address against the list of embargoed countries (for example, Iran, North Korea, Syria, Sudan), then emails you a link that you must click on to start your download, and checks your IP address again when you follow that link, which presumably means you did not receive your email in an embargoed country, and that the download itself did not go to an embargoed country. The U.S. Government deems this as adequate evidence that we made our best efforts to comply with U.S. export laws, which keeps us out of trouble. Older versions of Zfone are still floating around the net, and can be downloaded if you look for them. The major problem with Zfone, not to mention all of these other solutions, however, is that while your calls may be private, they are NOT anonymous. The authorities will know that calls were made, and that calls were encrypted. Someone making encrypted calls to 20+ numbers per day is going to fit the pattern of a drug trafficker. They may not be able to snoop on your calls, but this pattern will stick out like a sore thumb -- it is almost guaranteed to attract unwanted attention. Quote from: fuckthepolice101 on July 29, 2012, 07:15 amSome one with actual real world experience please give us some information on this topic. I personally dont trust anything other than GPG/PGP and OTR. zfone is good _IF_ you can find hardware that will run it (cellphone)Personally, I trust GPG. I don't use IM of any kind, even with OTR. Zfone is good, but bear in mind what I said, above.