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Discussion => Shipping => Topic started by: 420blindman on July 10, 2012, 10:47 pm

Title: Should vendors label their orders?
Post by: 420blindman on July 10, 2012, 10:47 pm
As a vendor, I label all my products (all I vend is weed). However, as I buyer of other goodies on SR, I've noticed very few, if any, label their orders. This isn't a problem when ordering one thing at a time, but when one places multiple orders from different vendors and they start to show up at the same time, you can guess what happens.

Anyone else having this problem?

Maybe I'm missing something, is it a security reason?
Title: Re: Should vendors label their orders?
Post by: trancesend on July 11, 2012, 01:18 am
What do you mean by label?  Put their name on it?  Put what the product is on it?
Title: Re: Should vendors label their orders?
Post by: flaxceed on July 11, 2012, 02:53 am
im very interested to see what SR buyers want and expect.  let's hear it!  :)
Title: Re: Should vendors label their orders?
Post by: gambino on July 11, 2012, 03:39 am
The answer for me is: It depends.  If it's weed, yes, please label it with the strain.  It's not as if the label is going to help LE!  If it's a white, off white or brown powder, then it's more complicated.  Cocaine need not be labeled, because it's obvious from the smell that it's coke.  But RCs and psychedelics should always be labeled clearly and accurately, IMO.  The likelihood of a mistake that could lead to serious injury or death (or at least a very bad night) is far too great to be sending these compounds unlabeled.  God forbid someone thinks the 25i is 2C-B and snorts 10 mg!  MDMA need not be labeled. It's usually obvious that it's MDMA and there's almost no way to OD on MDMA by mistake unless you're a total fool.  I don't have any experience with heroin, so I will withhold judgment on that one.  Since some one could die from a mistake, I suspect it's best to label it, but I seriously doubt any H vendors do.  Pharmaceutical pills have ID numbers, which speak for themselves, so no need to label.

So, in summary:

Psychedelics: yes, always.
RCs: yes, always.
Weed: yes, strain please
Coke: no
MDMA/MDA: no
Heroin: Leaning towards yes.
Pharms: No need.
Powdered benzos: yes, always.

Good thread, OP.
Title: Re: Should vendors label their orders?
Post by: ilovelsd69 on July 11, 2012, 04:20 am
The answer for me is: It depends.  If it's weed, yes, please label it with the strain.  It's not as if the label is going to help LE!  If it's a white, off white or brown powder, then it's more complicated.  Cocaine need not be labeled, because it's obvious from the smell that it's coke.  But RCs and psychedelics should always be labeled clearly and accurately, IMO.  The likelihood of a mistake that could lead to serious injury or death (or at least a very bad night) is far too great to be sending these compounds unlabeled.  God forbid someone thinks the 25i is 2C-B and snorts 10 mg!  MDMA need not be labeled. It's usually obvious that it's MDMA and there's almost no way to OD on MDMA by mistake unless you're a total fool.  I don't have any experience with heroin, so I will withhold judgment on that one.  Since some one could die from a mistake, I suspect it's best to label it, but I seriously doubt any H vendors do.  Pharmaceutical pills have ID numbers, which speak for themselves, so no need to label.

So, in summary:

Psychedelics: yes, always.
RCs: yes, always.
Weed: yes, strain please
Coke: no
MDMA/MDA: no
Heroin: Leaning towards yes.
Pharms: No need.
Powdered benzos: yes, always.

Good thread, OP.

Listen to this guy, what he say is really smart  ;D Legal RC must be labelled correctly because they will arrive at destination that way if they are checked up, i mean if LE found a white unknown powder in a bag they will not let it go.. if this comes with the material safety data sheet and all other correct label from a chemical supplier this will pass customs like if it's your old grandma!
Title: Re: Should vendors label their orders?
Post by: sbaxter on July 11, 2012, 05:29 am
As a customer I would be very happy if ALL products are somehow labelled, even if it is only some sign or random number.
The reason: I often buy the same product from different vendors at the same time from more or less the same country, so sometimes
I receive two or more letters with the same product (or what is sold under the same name) from the same country and cannot distinguish
between the two (e.g.)for feedback reasons.

And I can't think of any reason a vendor wouldn't/couldn't do that.
Title: Re: Should vendors label their orders?
Post by: zero effect on July 11, 2012, 05:51 am
As a customer I would be very happy if ALL products are somehow labelled, even if it is only some sign or random number.
The reason: I often buy the same product from different vendors at the same time from more or less the same country, so sometimes
I receive two or more letters with the same product (or what is sold under the same name) from the same country and cannot distinguish
between the two (e.g.)for feedback reasons.

And I can't think of any reason a vendor wouldn't/couldn't do that.
Thats a good point and the exact reason I have held off an order. I have 2 very different things I have not yet tried, which look very similar coming from the same country. If I mistake them, I will not od, but will have a very bad trip.
On the other hand, you dont want to have your shit stamped "Really good MDMA" or "Awesome H from *Vendor Name", so I suppose get in touch with the vendor beforehand and get them to mark it with something  you will recognise upon arrival and wont make it easy for LE if they do intercept.
Title: Re: Should vendors label their orders?
Post by: sbaxter on July 11, 2012, 06:20 am
of course, putting a description or names on the (inner) package wouldn't be wise, but a simple sign or so shouldn't be  aproblem.

About the contacting beforehand: Some vendors have supply-chains and won't be able to individually label their bags/whatever on request, so I think this is something a vendor should do automatically, e.g. informing whoever actually makes the packages to put the sign on every package.

OR, just came into my mind, the vendor could also inform the customer about the return address he used (and I think it is commonly agreed that a return address is part of a professional package).
Title: Re: Should vendors label their orders?
Post by: MarijuanaIsMyMuse on July 11, 2012, 07:19 am
I always keep a small set of labels on hand so I can label each item/bag as it's packed (type/amount) butbefore it goes in to the sealer and get's packaged for sending. Internally, everything is labelled, though you would have no clue looking at it from outside the package.
MJMuse
Title: Re: Should vendors label their orders?
Post by: blueveil on July 13, 2012, 09:04 am
as a vendor of only mushrooms i feel they do not need to be labeled no matter the form and that labeling is a form of counter surveillance once it leaves the seller. but i agree with the like 2nd poster i think with that big list. never heard of someone eating enough mushrooms to do any lasting damage even to the psyche.
Title: Re: Should vendors label their orders?
Post by: BlarghRawr on July 13, 2012, 10:45 am
I think only the initials of the strain, where weed is concerned, is necessary. As for mushies... maybe. RCs? FUCK YES.
Title: Re: Should vendors label their orders?
Post by: jameslink2 on July 13, 2012, 11:43 am
as a vendor of only mushrooms i feel they do not need to be labeled no matter the form and that labeling is a form of counter surveillance once it leaves the seller. but i agree with the like 2nd poster i think with that big list. never heard of someone eating enough mushrooms to do any lasting damage even to the psyche.

But you just sell one strain of mushroom. So anything from you is going to be that.

I label my spore syringes but that is because I have 10 different strains. I do not label orders for mushroom pills unless the person orders more than one strain. Then I will label the bag with what strain is in it.

However, it is worth considering after reading the OP. Never really thought about it.
Title: Re: Should vendors label their orders?
Post by: Kataman on July 14, 2012, 11:44 am
As a vendor, thank you for the insight. It is true that when you are getting more than one package at a time, it can get confusing, but i have ordered up to 10 parcels at a time before and have yet to have an issue finding out what is what.
However, as a vendor, i might start labeling my product discreetly so people know it is my package when it arrives.
Title: Re: Should vendors label their orders?
Post by: Imaginarytailus13 on July 14, 2012, 02:40 pm
My answer: no, and never. The package is already at risk when examined/opened, sometimes they identify it and sometimes they don`t. Putting a label makes it all too easy for the customs to figure out what it is. Big mistake. I`ll be honest I wouldn`t buy from a vendor no matter how nice they are if they practiced that. A good way to identify what product came from which vendor is to ask them to put a small newspaper clipping with a word/sentence/etc. The clipping`s contents can be then described to the buyer through PGP or whatever means.
Title: Re: Should vendors label their orders?
Post by: awakened350 on July 15, 2012, 12:23 am
As an RC vendors every single order I send out even tiny sample amounts are always clearly and professionally labeled (along with NFHC and CAS#)

I do it for the sake of harm reduction. As has already been said a lot of these powder look the same and people could easily mix them up and end up in trouble. Sure it makes it easier for LE to identify what it is, but if they have already found the package I don't think it makes that much of a difference especialyl since these RCs are grey area.

I'd say anything that could pose a risk to the customers safety if improperly identified should be clearly labeled.
Title: Re: Should vendors label their orders?
Post by: sundhara on July 15, 2012, 01:42 am
I think that vendors need to be careful with labeling. Say you have three things coming in, two of them look very similar and are from the same country.

(hypothetically speaking)

Because you're a dumb ass, you went straight to google images and looked up "difference between x and y", and because you really are a dumb ass, you decide to OD (unknowingly) on one of them. Now, you're in prison, hospital or you're just dead.

If one was smart, they would just compare the two chems dosages, pick a random bag and take the lower dosage. :/

Of course, vendors could fix this with the use of copy pasta and printing. Just use four digits of the item ID... e.g. for limetless's  100 mg 25i-NBOMe, just add a small piece of paper with "1d61" on it. The buyer should generally be smart enough to figure this out on their own. If two packages end up being the same (looks, smell, amount, country, item ID digits, etc.) wow... uh, you could just do a very low dose of one of them...
Title: Re: Should vendors label their orders?
Post by: gambino on July 15, 2012, 08:45 pm
The vndor could put a code (e.g. four digit number) on the inside of the package.  They could then send the buyer an IM with the code in the subject line and an encrypted message with the contents.  Sure adds a lot of work for the vendor for little benefit.
Title: Re: Should vendors label their orders?
Post by: Imaginarytailus13 on July 15, 2012, 08:49 pm
Lol. Why are you all redundant? Its as if you don`t even see the same idea being mentioned consecutively.
Title: Re: Should vendors label their orders?
Post by: foxymeow on July 15, 2012, 09:20 pm
Why would a vendor ever label their product! Its your job to label it when you get it. Buy a $1 shapie and label it once you recieve the package. If it is opened, having it labeled will make it so much worse
Title: Re: Should vendors label their orders?
Post by: pbody88 on July 16, 2012, 08:46 am
I got a package and the baggies had silkroad written on them, n the vendors name.
Title: Re: Should vendors label their orders?
Post by: Imaginarytailus13 on July 16, 2012, 09:02 am
I got a package and the baggies had silkroad written on them, n the vendors name.

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Doesn`t anyone think that posses as a big risk to be flagged/confiscated?
Title: Re: Should vendors label their orders?
Post by: flaxceed on July 16, 2012, 09:49 am
Stupid is as stupid does!  :)
Title: Re: Should vendors label their orders?
Post by: gambino on July 16, 2012, 11:52 pm
Why would a vendor ever label their product!

Because buyers often order more than one thing at the same time.  If you're selling blotters with pictures, it doesn't matter, but when you're talking about generic white powders, it matters, especially when one white powder is active at 100 micrograms and the other at 100 milligrams.
Title: Re: Should vendors label their orders?
Post by: Imaginarytailus13 on July 17, 2012, 01:48 am
Why would a vendor ever label their product!

Because buyers often order more than one thing at the same time.  If you're selling blotters with pictures, it doesn't matter, but when you're talking about generic white powders, it matters, especially when one white powder is active at 100 micrograms and the other at 100 milligrams.

Sure, but there are obviously ways to label them without being obvious right? I mean I would be pretty freaked out if a parcel came to my door step opened with a sack saying 'COCAINE' on it.
Title: Re: Should vendors label their orders?
Post by: Limetless on July 17, 2012, 01:50 am
My opinion on this is no they shouldn't and it's fairly stupid to do otherwise.
Title: Re: Should vendors label their orders?
Post by: foxymeow on July 17, 2012, 04:09 am
I know its convenient to have vendors label their product but safety trumps convenience any day.
Title: Re: Should vendors label their orders?
Post by: Limetless on July 17, 2012, 04:12 am
I know its convenient to have vendors label their product but safety trumps convenience any day.

Yeah, if someone pestered me for it after I'd already said no they'd get a "CANCELLED CUNT" and I'd blacklist them.