Quote from: LSD Avengers Spokesperson on November 19, 2012, 09:14 pmQuote from: samesamebutdiffernt on November 19, 2012, 07:21 pmQuote from: LSD Avengers Spokesperson on November 19, 2012, 04:48 pmDuring our testings of vendor MarijuanaIsMyMuse, we attempted to receive a package of 5 hits without letting MiMM know it was the Avengers. We created a new account and FE'd for the package. It was received some days later with Border Protection tape on one edge, where LE opened the package and seized the goods, which was the opposite of stealthy (literally said LSD on the bag). Basically, this vendor managed to package 5 tiny pieces of paper so poorly with such careless, unnecessary vacuum sealing that it was seized, so we haven't been able to confirm the damn doses since. We recommend being EXTREMELY cautious due to the danger of such a situation and how possible it turns out it is with this vendor.Please be careful.WTF do you mean it literally had LSD on the bag??The bag the LSD was supposed to come in clearly had LSD5 written across it in typed ink.Just checked in to catch up on feedback and saw this and would like to take a chance to respond. We stand by our shipping methods and know them to be secure & successful. We care constantly ordering from our competitors on SR to check up on shipping methods used by other vendors so as to get new ideas for shipping our orders and to see how our methods hold up against other shipping techniques. It's in our best interest to do so, we want to make sure buyer orders arrive successfully and get their future business. If our orders weren't getting through, people wouldn't be coming back and repeatedly buying from us, and the number and value of the refunds we'd have to issue would put us out of business. We know that our shipping method is far superior to the overwhelming majority of vendors on the site and we regularly change things up to prevent profiling. We treat, pack and ship every order the same regardless of where it's going, who bought it or their history with us or the site. We work hard to maintain our feedback and reputation in order to attract buyers who are new to the site, retain existing buyers who have purchased from us before and encourage other buyers who are less than satisfied with their current vendor of choice and looking for an alternate vendor to order from.We take particular care to make sure our packages blend in with regular business mail and over 97% of our orders are successfully delivered. This month we have had over 600 orders to date, yet issued less than 20 refunds for non-delivery claims, the vast majority of which have come from buyers with less than 10 transactions on SR who were required to FE. These are buyers who had already released their funds to us and are no longer covered by escrow protection. There's nobody forcing us to return their funds to them, in fact there are many other vendors on SR who require FE for whatever reason and refuse to issue a refund once a buyer has FE'd. We ask that people take us for our word and we reciprocate in kind. If buyers choose to order from us and trust that we are going to ship their order, even though they must FE, we return that trust; if that same buyer claims not have received their order for whatever reason, we trust that they really did not receive their order and issue the appropriate refund direct to their buyer account. Regarding your claims about the labeling in the package any labels inside the package are completely undetectable from the outside. We use an extensive color coding and bag sizing system so we can tell at a glance what anything is. The exceptions are marijuana, lsd and multi-item orders. When someone is ordering 4 different strains of weed, we stick a label on the inner bag so as to tell which strain is which and so the buyer know what is what when they receive it. For the LSD, we purchased special black bags that can't be penetrated by light so as to preserve the acid and protect it from light. When you have 10-15 black bags sitting in front of you waiting to be shipped, you need a way to tell the difference between them. And with multi-item orders, it helps the buyer to know which one is ketamine, which is coke and which is crystal. It doesn't do any good to have someone do a hollywood size rail of meth, tweak out and have their heart jam up on them. As a matter of fact we've had many buyers request that we make sure all items are labelled properly. In the case of single item orders for anything else, labels are unnecessary and not applied or included in the packaging. Not that any of it matters anyway. If Border Security has intercepted and opened the package, they'll probably be curious as to why there's a little black baggie or sealed bag of powder tucked deep inside the envelope. Either way, it's secured, hidden and undetectable from the outside.You also state there was excessive sealing and it was poorly packed. Again, when packed and wrapped properly, it's undetectable from the outside. But you wouldn't know that, because you have no idea how it was originally packed. Do you really think Border Security took the same amount of time and care to replace, repackage and re-ship the intercepted envelope that was initially taken when it was first packed and sent? I find it highly doubtful that they would have bothered to do soIn the last year we have had a total of 6 claims of interception by border security/customs inspectors, 4 of which we have been able to verify. The fact that your order was the 4th verified shipment to have this happen was an extreme coincidence and very unlucky on your part. While you may have been a "new" buyer who had to FE as per our policy, you were also refunded in full accordance with our refund policy, treated with respect with respect, responded to in a prompt manner and refunded immediately upon providing proof of interception. When we first entered the LSD market, our first action was to contact the The Avengers to get our product tested and immediately upon receiving notification that our product was less than what we had been led to believe, we adjusted our prices in line with what YOUR test results showed. We have since pulled our listings because buyer feedback was all over the place; some people thought it was great, others were claiming it was a sham, yet it was all coming from the same sheet of blotter. As we could find no explanation for it, we opted to de-list as we do not want our reputation tarnished by an inferior product, and have been since looking for alternative sources. We were aware of this because people were messaging and telling us so we could keep on top of it and try to find a solution or alternative. Trying to track and stay on top of everything from buyer orders, SR messages, feedback, complaints, our own forum threads, product specific forum threads & other threads about us or our products started by forum users is simply unmanageable and unrealistic. It was possible just a few short months ago, but our current vendor status that we have worked so hard to achieve & product diversity we've been able to source and provide by re-investing in our operation and the resulting popularity and volume we've been rewarded with make that too challenging. So we ask that people give us the simple courtesy of letting us know when they have a problem so we are aware of it and can address the problem and come up with an acceptable resolution.We're currently celebrating our 1 year anniversary by giving back 250 BtiCoins to the community that has helped us get where we are today. We are well aware of previous vendor scams that have plagued the site in the past and prepared well in advance so that we would not need buyers to FE in order to participate and even lowered our FE requirement from 10 buyer transactions to 5 buyer transactions. AND we still continue to refund all buyer's, even if they were required to FE, no questions asked, knowing full well that there are buyers out there who do take advantage of this. We even made sure to have the award funds transferred out of our account and put into escrow holding so as to further reassure the buyer community of our intentions and allay and possible scamming suspicions.We have always acted with integrity, shipped every order we have received over the last year and confronted & corrected any wrongdoings on our part. Many times, we could have packed it in, setup a new account identity and attempted to start over, but tucking our tail behind us, sneaking out the backdoor and coming back pretending to be someone we aren't is not our way of doing business. Each time we have come out stronger than before, and have evolved our operation into a streamlined, efficient entity with a solid buyer base and an impressive reputation. Our current practices and policies are more than fair, more lenient & buyer friendly than most other vendors on the site and acceptable & agreeable to the vast majority of buyers who choose to work with us. We followed through on all of our stated policies, kept everything private & confidential as we always do and as you insisted as you claimed to now be concerned about your security and the security of your shipping location. We acted transparently and true to our word, following through and delivering as indicated on our vendor profile as we always do for every buyer who does business with us. From the beginning you approached us under a fraudulent guise, misrepresented yourself and then attempted to slander us on our own vendor thread. You should be ashamed of yourself. There are far worse vendors on here that target and prey on unaware buyers of this site that you should be focusing on protecting those who don't know what to look out for, though at this point I think you are no better than some of those disreputable vendors who pull this site down. At this point I think your efforts are little more than a ploy to get free psychedelic drugs from those vendors who stock them, promote those who continue to freely supply you and attempt to tarnish the name of those who won't play your little game.Looking back, I find this whole situation suspect. The previous 3 verified border interceptions I have dealt with all took at least 6 weeks before buyers had received anything from customs they could submit to me for refund, yet I messaged that you needed to finalize your order before it would ship on Nov. 5 and you responded the following day, Nov. 6, that you had done so. Your order most likely got picked up for delivery then on Nov. 7 and you messaged me on Nov. 15 claiming it was intercepted and had all the information necessary to back up your story the same day. So in 8 days, 3 of which which were weekends/holidays, make it 5 business days your order shipped, somehow got identified, approved for interception/opening, had the contents removed & inspected, then repackaged and arrived at your location. That's pretty impressive. I've never known multiple government agencies to coordinate and operate so quickly before, especially the postal system and border control. You managed in 5 days what's taken 42+ days every other time.I don't know what game your playing, what your problem is or what you think your going to accomplish, but I've said my bit and I'm done with it. For the second time now. Let this be the end of it, go avenge yourself elsewhere. This has already taken up more than enough time that could have been spent dealing with legitimate buyer messages and orders.MJMuse