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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: Bungee54 on August 08, 2012, 09:15 pm

Title: Traveling the SilkRoad:A measurement analysis of a large anonymous online market
Post by: Bungee54 on August 08, 2012, 09:15 pm
Traveling the Silk Road: A measurement analysis of a large anonymous online marketplace

Nicolas Christin
Carnegie Mellon INI/CyLab
nicolasc@cmu.edu

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1207.7139v1.pdf




We are sorry if this has already been posted or discussed..

Title: Re: Traveling the SilkRoad:A measurement analysis of a large anonymous online market
Post by: LouisCyphre on August 09, 2012, 01:05 am
Traveling the Silk Road: A measurement analysis of a large anonymous online marketplace

Nicolas Christin
Carnegie Mellon INI/CyLab
nicolasc@cmu.edu

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1207.7139v1.pdf

Fascinating study.  This bit was rather interesting:

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6.1 Ethical considerations

Conducting this research yielded some ethical quandaries. Since we are analyzing data from activity that is, in most jurisdictions, deemed as criminal, could this work directly lead to arrest or prosecution of individuals? If such were the case, should it be published?

We answered negatively to the first question. Indeed, the data we collected is essentially public. We did have to create an account on Silk Road to access it; but registration is open to anybody who connects to the site. We did not compromise the site in any way. Perhaps, bypassing the authentication mechanism and associated CAPTCHA by reusing an authentication cookie could be construed as a “hack.” However, we argue this is nothing more than using a convenient feature that the site operators have willingly offered their visitors. Indeed, nothing would prevent the site operators from setting authentication cookies with very short expiry dates.

Considering that the data we obtained is available to anybody, we do not think this work adds any additional risk for the Silk Road operators, their customers or their sellers. In fact, as routinely expressed in user forums [6], Silk Road operators seem to espouse crypto-anarchist ideals (see, e.g., May [18]) and to that end, willingly make their website – and, as a result, its data – publicly available.

Also, if their estimate of the monthly revenue is accurate, I can see why DPR and company don't need to maintain their own seller accounts.

Also, this paper might finally answer the question of what percentage of the BTC market is.  My extraordinarily rough guestimate (which is probably wrong) based on the current bitcoinwatch.com figures with lots of gratuitous rounding off places Silk Road trade (total revenue) at somewhere between 3.5% and 4% of the entire BTC market.

So much for the panicked posts on the Bitcoin Talk forums about Silk Road and other black markets (of which SR is arguably the largest) leading to the demise of the currency.  If this paper kills that tired old argument then it will have at least done one good thing.

A pity there was no mention of Lim's land rover, though.
Title: Re: Traveling the SilkRoad:A measurement analysis of a large anonymous online market
Post by: Bungee54 on August 15, 2012, 07:09 pm
We really wonder only you responded here Louis :)
Title: Re: Traveling the SilkRoad:A measurement analysis of a large anonymous online market
Post by: LouisCyphre on August 21, 2012, 09:43 am
We really wonder only you responded here Louis :)

There are a couple of other threads on this paper which may have received more attention.
Title: Re: Traveling the SilkRoad:A measurement analysis of a large anonymous online market
Post by: Bungee54 on August 21, 2012, 01:18 pm
we have not been able to find them , thats we why posted it ...can somebody please be so kind and forward us to them :)
Title: Re: Traveling the SilkRoad:A measurement analysis of a large anonymous online market
Post by: x0834 on August 21, 2012, 02:05 pm
there you go Bungee54:

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=34061.0
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=34477
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=34370.msg393613#msg393613

related topic: So how much money are vendors REALLY making?
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=35488.0

0x00
Title: Re: Traveling the SilkRoad:A measurement analysis of a large anonymous online market
Post by: Bungee54 on August 21, 2012, 02:52 pm
there you go Bungee54:

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=34061.0
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=34477
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=34370.msg393613#msg393613

related topic: So how much money are vendors REALLY making?
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=35488.0

0x00

wow thanks a bunch bro!

we dunno why so many say there are so many morons and assholes on here..maybe we have been too high but we seems to meet only nice people :)