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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: uniwiz on July 31, 2012, 12:55 am
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Looked at my account, and couldn't believe it.
Then went to purchase, $18.65 per BTC.
I started buying as much as I could ;)
Just kidding, whats up?
Thanks SR!!!
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I noticed it too, had twice what i expected. I am tempted to buy but don't want to screw a vendor out of money.
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now its up to 19. I have no explanation.
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Yeah I just got on here to ask about that. The cash value listed at the top of the account page is different then what is available. I don't like that there seems to be a problem of some sort with my money totals.
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What you on about kids? Where is this coming from?
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Go look at the money in your account. The cash value and the amount of available BTC are way off and keep moving around
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Yep everything is like half price
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btce got hacked, time to take advantage bitches!!
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If you're a good sport, you won't buy anything until this is all taken care of. As it is I imagine that every vendor will cancel any order that comes through until this is all blown over, so don't waste your time.
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Be careful, people. This is a point when btc valuation gets risky.
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I just made $20,000 selling 300 bitcoin that cost me around $8!!!! boo ya!!!!
How?? I want this!
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If you're a good sport, you won't buy anything until this is all taken care of. As it is I imagine that every vendor will cancel any order that comes through until this is all blown over, so don't waste your time.
if they're paying for the hedge sr admin will take the L not them, so why would they care?
I guarantee that all the orders made during these troubles will be cancelled. Obviously SR-vendor relations have to be good so why would vendors even attempt that. I look down on anybody who attempts to take advantage of this. Almost everything on SR is very fairly priced.
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I just made $20,000 selling 300 bitcoin that cost me around $8!!!! boo ya!!!!
How?? I want this!
I had 400 BTC in BTC - e when prices jumped :) i got lucky and sold AT $55 PER COIN :)
And now you've withdrawn your $20K?
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Time to make some fucking cheddar!
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Almost everything on SR is very fairly priced.
Unless you want to buy any kind of pill, cocaine, opiate, etc, etc...
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If you're a good sport, you won't buy anything until this is all taken care of. As it is I imagine that every vendor will cancel any order that comes through until this is all blown over, so don't waste your time.
if they're paying for the hedge sr admin will take the L not them, so why would they care?
I guarantee that all the orders made during these troubles will be cancelled. Obviously SR-vendor relations have to be good so why would vendors even attempt that. I look down on anybody who attempts to take advantage of this. Almost everything on SR is very fairly priced.
Well this is a big mess.
I agree, unfortunately, I was buying a the time.
I can only imagine the damage when I get canceled.
Be careful folks.
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I happen to just send a bunch of BTC to my SR account to make some purchases. Upon refreshing the page I noticed my balanced was updated and I went and placed a few orders... all hedged.
Then I looked at my account history, the BTC I sent havent even arrived yet.
This is going to make me lose so much money if each of these vendors cancel my orders. A vendor canceled my (hedged) order earlier and I lost $100 as a result..... If my recent orders get canceled... then im down the drain $400 possibly
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I would urge all users to hold off on transactions until we figure out what's going out with btc-e. I would also urge those of you with coins at btc-e to withdraw them IMMEDIATELY, and not to make any transactions there. GreenGiant, were you able to withdraw your USD??
This is clearly a btc-e hack. Secure your coins right now, if at all possible.
- grahamgreene
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I just made $20,000 selling 300 bitcoin that cost me around $8!!!! boo ya!!!!
How?? I want this!
if you already didn't have coins in that exchange don't do this, trying to deposit there is just about the stupidest thing you can do
Yeah I checked over at that site, doesn't seem like a good idea at all. Damn you GreenGiant and your $20,000 worth of luck!
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the latest block contains 64,516.55 btc
it's no longer limited to btc-e's internal system, shit just got real!
Wait wut
Please explain
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the latest block contains 64,516.55 btc
it's no longer limited to btc-e's internal system, shit just got real!
What does that really mean? Will these rates stay? Is it safe to buy products right now?
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I would say it is completely unsafe to do anything regarding BTC right now. Over at MtGox I sold all the BTC I had because the price hasn't changed since I bought them, so I'd rather know I have the USD in case a crash happens...
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the latest block contains 64,516.55 btc
it's no longer limited to btc-e's internal system, shit just got real!
Wait wut
Please explain
64K bitcoins, about the amount that was purchased for about a million dollars which is what drove up the value, has been transferred. Shannon implies, perhaps correctly, that this is a sign that this recent valuation-alteration is going to last.
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Any purchases made at the moment will just cause headaches for all parties involved. I urge you all to resist temptation and just wait until this blows over.
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I placed an order and thought it was my money what the fuck did I just do and will it be canceled? I even forgot if I sent it to Silk Road or my desktop wallet. What the fuck did I just do?!?
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So what's the safe thing to do? Nothing? I just wanna buy some freakin' RCs man.
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And you're still smiling GG. Fair play. :)
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Since these bitcoin transactions are going to last then I guess it's morally safe for us to spend now?
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I was wondering what the fuck just happened. I bought coins today and look in my account and the numbers are all fucked up. This is not good. I need my fucking drugs man! I was gonna make a buy today.
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At MtGox the price is still the same. Do you think this is a good time to buy? Will the price be going up in the next day or two because of this? I've never done the whole trading for the sake of trading thing, but if this is worthwhile I'll do it.
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Can someone clarify what happens to the vendor and the buyer if an order is cancelled in a hedged and unhedged sitaution.
Thanks
BTG
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I doubt any order will go through right now. But just curious why has the rate on SR changed , is it in any way correlated to btc-e ? why not have the rate shown on all the other exchange sites....
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Someone has now claimed responsibility for the hack, though it's uncertain if it is true.
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Hold off on all transactions folks, and I doubt there's enough USD at btc-e to fill transactions. BTC withdrawals aren't working there at the moment, so I think it's safe to assume that anything held at btc-e is now lost.
- grahamgreene
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WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?!!!! :o
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fuck... just spent 5k$ worth of coin earlier :( this is depressing
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=96802.0
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Dont worry , its not depressing because any order you would of made at this rate would have been canceled
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Holy shit it's so tempting to spend them coins now.
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Smells like a clusterfuck
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Yep. Total clusterfuck.
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It's going down again, but not much. Let's hope it doesn't go down below what we already had. I suggest nobody tries to take advantage of this because the money isn't actually real... much like our currency.
I'm gonna smoke a blunt and proceed to not give a fuck about any of this. More money. Less money. No money at all. I don't care anymore.
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Someone has now claimed responsibility for the hack, though it's uncertain if it is true.
lol have you been reading the btc-e chatbox? this is straight comedy
those russians are gonna wake up to the worst morning ever
Yep. Someone just noticed 3K coins going to SR, too.
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Prices are holding at about 9 at other exchanges... BTC-E is f'd. They will never be able to cover the withdrawals.
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Hahahha this is insaneeeeee MrWubbles is fuket do u think its the real hacker?
btc-e chat box is too funny
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If i have orders waiting to be sent out, not marked in transit and not finalised, where does this leave me.
It looks like the prices are now less than half price. If i cancel these orders what happens to me and the buyer?
BTG
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It's going down again, but not much. Let's hope it doesn't go down below what we already had. I suggest nobody tries to take advantage of this because the money isn't actually real... much like our currency.
I'm gonna smoke a blunt and proceed to not give a fuck about any of this. More money. Less money. No money at all. I don't care anymore.
+1 Karma TheAbsurd
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Does this mean, the after effect of the hack in e.g 24-48hours. BTCs should go up overall?
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Wow. Another episode of btc mega drama. Lets get that witch hunt rolling guys!
Zhou Tong? Intersango? 'The Manipulator'? Illuminati? or are they all the same person anyways!?
:o ::) ;D
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Does this mean, the after effect of the hack in e.g 24-48hours. BTCs should go up overall?
Unlikely.
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Does this mean, the after effect of the hack in e.g 24-48hours. BTCs should go up overall?
Unlikely.
OR a huge drop because investors/speculators decide to cash out?
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=bfaafc2554604eec0ad47472d8ba6705&topic=96802.60
BTC hit $40 on BTC-e
Oh boy :'(
I just want to do biz......
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I always miss out on the good stuff. I'm a few weeks away from setting up a vendor account, and if I'd have had my coins ready to go, I could have got one now for half price... :'(
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Intersango's rates have just gone up a bit aswell
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Does this mean, the after effect of the hack in e.g 24-48hours. BTCs should go up overall?
Unlikely.
OR a huge drop because investors/speculators decide to cash out?
It will have to return to normal at some point because the spike was artificial so there is no substance to keep it in place. Compare it to the bond market crash, what is likely to happen is that this will cripple BTC-e and kill it altogether like Bear Stearns because there ill be no confidence in it any more.
Makes you think, are the other exchanges playing with loaded dice and bent decks?
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QQ I shoulda waited before spending my BTC
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back to 9$ per btc
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I had coins deposited to my account on SR today and I'm missing about 3/4 of the money that should be there. Someone tell me that I didn't lose my money and all of this will work itself out.
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So do vendors get their money or not?
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Great! Now all of the bitcoins that I bought today are gone. WTF?!
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The Silk Road average is back at $9. I have some coins at BTC-E. This is fucking insanity. I might have just lost a couple bucks. That exchange is likely fucked. This might be the Black Monday of bitcoins.
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ahh the joys of bitcoin! Looks like this nonsense drug the official Silk Road exchange rate up to about twice what it should've been. It is now pegged at $9 per btc until we get this sorted out. If you have been adversely affected by this in any way, please contact support and we will make sure you are taken care of. Give it a day or so before you report anything as we may take care of any problems by then as this is looked at more closely.
Sorry for the trouble. We'll be back to normal asap 8)
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Has anyone else lost bitcoins out of their account on SR?
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Surely all transactions that happened during that time will be cancelled.
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ahh the joys of bitcoin! Looks like this nonsense drug the official Silk Road exchange rate up to about twice what it should've been. It is now pegged at $9 per btc until we get this sorted out. If you have been adversely affected by this in any way, please contact support and we will make sure you are taken care of. Give it a day or so before you report anything as we may take care of any problems by then as this is looked at more closely.
Sorry for the trouble. We'll be back to normal asap 8)
Good work on the swift response to this DPR, I'm sure everyone here will be relieved that you have your eye on the ball! :)
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ahh the joys of bitcoin! Looks like this nonsense drug the official Silk Road exchange rate up to about twice what it should've been. It is now pegged at $9 per btc until we get this sorted out. If you have been adversely affected by this in any way, please contact support and we will make sure you are taken care of. Give it a day or so before you report anything as we may take care of any problems by then as this is looked at more closely.
Sorry for the trouble. We'll be back to normal asap 8)
Thanks for re-acting as quickly as you did :)
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Well it may be time to play the exchange game..... If you can sell your bitcoins on btc-e for $30 and buy them on mtgox for $9... this looks like an opportunity. The only down side is that it's taking 1 hour to crack the last bitcoin block :( so it would be time consuming to go back and forth. Hope it last long enough for me to double or quadruple my money.
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Well it may be time to play the exchange game..... If you can sell your bitcoins on btc-e for $30 and buy them on mtgox for $9... this looks like an opportunity. The only down side is that it's taking 1 hour to crack the last bitcoin block :( so it would be time consuming to go back and forth. Hope it last long enough for me to double or quadruple my money.
Not a good idea.
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Well it may be time to play the exchange game..... If you can sell your bitcoins on btc-e for $30 and buy them on mtgox for $9... this looks like an opportunity. The only down side is that it's taking 1 hour to crack the last bitcoin block :( so it would be time consuming to go back and forth. Hope it last long enough for me to double or quadruple my money.
anonaddict DO NOT DO THIS! Any BTC you put into btc-e is going into the hotwallet - the hotwallet was cleaned out by the hacker, but he/she can still withdraw any BTC put into it whilst they have control. They're using fake USD to buy up coins (by adjusting their USD balance), so you'll lose your coins and you'll receive imaginary USD.
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So is it safe to deposit BTC into SR even if they werent brought on btc-e?
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Has anyone else lost bitcoins out of their account on SR?
Yes. I did. I transfer ~11btc several hours ago [before btc-e fiasco]. It hasn't appeared. I contacted support. No reply yet.
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I wouldn't try to deposit anything to BTC-E. You will lose it. The only person who is going to make out is the guy who purchases BTC with a fake 1 mil note. Once he gets his BTC out of BTC-E and into another exchange they will be able to sell them off at around 9 a BTC still pulling in some big change. All the specs at BTC-E are about to get burned.
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ahh the joys of bitcoin! Looks like this nonsense drug the official Silk Road exchange rate up to about twice what it should've been. It is now pegged at $9 per btc until we get this sorted out. If you have been adversely affected by this in any way, please contact support and we will make sure you are taken care of. Give it a day or so before you report anything as we may take care of any problems by then as this is looked at more closely.
Sorry for the trouble. We'll be back to normal asap 8)
Thanks for getting on it so fast DPR. :)
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Has anyone else lost bitcoins out of their account on SR?
Yes. I did. I transfer ~11btc several hours ago [before btc-e fiasco]. It hasn't appeared. I contacted support. No reply yet.
Have you check your SR bitcoin address in blockchain.info it looks like the blocks are taking a really long time to go through. HIGH VOLUME
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Well, now I am not so upset that the best selling sort is broken. I am at the bottom of the list lol
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Has anyone else lost bitcoins out of their account on SR?
Yes. I did. I transfer ~11btc several hours ago [before btc-e fiasco]. It hasn't appeared. I contacted support. No reply yet.
Have you check your SR bitcoin address in blockchain.info it looks like the blocks are taking a really long time to go through. HIGH VOLUME
Yes. I checked blockchain. The transfer has been confirmed ~35 times. And SR has already transfered BTC out of wallet [~20confirmations]. But no btc credited to my account.
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Has anyone else lost bitcoins out of their account on SR?
Yes. I did. I transfer ~11btc several hours ago [before btc-e fiasco]. It hasn't appeared. I contacted support. No reply yet.
Have you check your SR bitcoin address in blockchain.info it looks like the blocks are taking a really long time to go through. HIGH VOLUME
Yes. I checked blockchain. The transfer has been confirmed ~35 times. And SR has already transfered BTC out of wallet [~20confirmations]. But no btc credited to my account.
If you didn't generate a new address before transferring the bitcoins they may be lost in the system. Just send as much info to silk road support and they will get it sorted out. May take a few day :(
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BTW, anyone with accounts at btc-e should change their passwords for any other sites that they use the same password for. Assuming this was the result of an SQL injection, the database will probably be leaked.
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The Silk Road average is back at $9. I have some coins at BTC-E. This is fucking insanity. I might have just lost a couple bucks. That exchange is likely fucked. This might be the Black Monday of bitcoins.
i would transfer it NOW
BTC-E is so backed up, if you had money in there you should get ready to forget about that coin. People have been trying to pull out tenths of bits for hours and still nothing. That site is gone with the wind I think. There is no way to say that the site didn't do it. All they would have to do is move the market value up to 40 bucks say they got hacked clog up their own system with the news and take the coin. That is the one problem with bitcoin. No one governs it, the people running these trading sites have no one to answer to. They can do whatever they want.
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Has anyone else lost bitcoins out of their account on SR?
Yes. I did. I transfer ~11btc several hours ago [before btc-e fiasco]. It hasn't appeared. I contacted support. No reply yet.
Have you check your SR bitcoin address in blockchain.info it looks like the blocks are taking a really long time to go through. HIGH VOLUME
Yes. I checked blockchain. The transfer has been confirmed ~35 times. And SR has already transfered BTC out of wallet [~20confirmations]. But no btc credited to my account.
If you didn't generate a new address before transferring the bitcoins they may be lost in the system. Just send as much info to silk road support and they will get it sorted out. May take a few day :(
Yeah, it's been weird. About a 1/4 of what should have been in my wallet appeared a few hours ago and all of it disappeared about an hour ago.
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don't the discount the possibility that LE had something to do with it.... or might in the future...
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Maybe but I wouldn't go that far yet. I did read an interesting article about a bitcoin trade site owner and I thought I would share it with you all. Could you imagine having a magic button that raises the value of your goods? Crazy huh?
http://nerdr.com/bitcoin-exchange-scam-bitcoins-are-worthless/
I don't share all of this guys believes but he has some valid points for sure.
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The weird thing is at first glance, it looks legit, but i the bitcoin people are saying that it has to be a btc-e hack... why cant sites get really good security??? Something is wrong...
BTC-E got hacked or it was an inside job and did another bitcoinica or whatever.. It all comes down to your own security... Dont put your coin where you CANT control it... Im guessing that there will be some official "Bitcoin" governing body soon, these scams just dont stop.. it will destroy the bitcoin before it gets going... Something has to be done about these scams..
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The weird thing is at first glance, it looks legit, but i the bitcoin people are saying that it has to be a btc-e hack... why cant sites get really good security??? Something is wrong...
Some do have the right security. I don't know why others wouldn't want to as well. Is it the cost or is it that some day they plan to "cashout" like tradehill. It sure makes for an easy escape and people who are used to this crap just go "oh well" and rightfully so, the anonymous currency is that way for a reason. Who are these people going to go after? I use campbx.com, simply for their security.
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The weird thing is at first glance, it looks legit, but i the bitcoin people are saying that it has to be a btc-e hack... why cant sites get really good security??? Something is wrong...
Some do have the right security. I don't know why others wouldn't want to as well. Is it the cost or is it that some day they plan to "cashout" like tradehill. It sure makes for an easy escape and people who are used to this crap just go "oh well" and rightfully so, the anonymous currency is that way for a reason. Who are these people going to go after? I use campbx.com, simply for their security.
btc-e always looked insecure and low quality... it was only a matter of time before it got hacked.
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the last six blocks have over 244k btc volume looool
I like you! Just the facts!! Your freaking awesome!!!
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Not really sure what happened as I don't understand the whole btc thing very well. I just saw that the value of my btc doubled. I thought the price in btc just rose drastically and didn't know it was a hack so I made 2 large purchases, one hedged and one not hedged. Anybody know what will happen now? What will happen if my orders are cancelled? I guess I should have checked here before I bought.
The unhedged one might get cancelled, but you'll get your funds back. The hedged one is more likely to go through, as hedging is meant to protect from things like this. But really, it's a toss up.
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I think I just lost a couple hundred bucks at that bastard BTC-e site. I thought it was a good idea to have multiple wallets so I opened an account last month.
Balls. Just balls. It's not letting me log in.
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I think I just lost a couple hundred bucks at that bastard BTC-e site. I thought it was a good idea to have multiple wallets so I opened an account last month.
Balls. Just balls. It's not letting me log in.
Yeah sorry bro, You have every dimwit on the world wide web who ever bought and stored there trying to get their 0.00000000001 bitcoins out of there. It really really sucks for the people who actually use BTC and know what it is.
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I think I just lost a couple hundred bucks at that bastard BTC-e site. I thought it was a good idea to have multiple wallets so I opened an account last month.
Balls. Just balls. It's not letting me log in.
I have / had $80 that I forgot about until tonight. Not sure what to do.
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I thought unhedged meant the price woudn't be subject to btc fluctuations so I bought 2 things that were unhedged. Grr, did I get it backwards?
Yup backwards.
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There's people on their forum complaining that they can't withdraw their 0.9865 BTC or whatever and I can't find my actual transaction in the blockchain. I placed a small hedged order on Silk Road in the confusion that I hope SR staff let slide because I would just break even. I didn't mean anything dishonest, I assumed it was a run on the market so I acted on it. Man this sucks. I hate bitcoins. Stupid unregulated currency.
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vinny - you think there is any chance of getting our money from there?
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vinny - you think there is any chance of getting our money from there?
The hackers injected faked USD into BTC-e then purchased BTC with that. They also cleaned out btc-e's wallet and any incoming deposits from people tryin to make a quick buck from the spike (GreenGiant ;) lol )
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I Just checked the block chain and a shit ton of coins just went thru with 9 confirmations.... I would secure all your bitcoins and if you have a btc-e account try to get them out.. This is going to have very bad ramifications to the bitcoin and a lot of people on bitc-e hopefully didnt lose a lot.. it all depends if they had coins in cold storage or not.. Im not that technical, but this isnt good at all...
Number? Hash? Time? Transactions? Total BTC? Size(kB)?
191629 39d62c3f04... 2012-07-31 04:25:23 473 8029.96161796 245.806
191628 65934f20b0... 2012-07-31 04:15:16 584 10935.44125462 248.998
191627 5101058ce1... 2012-07-31 04:07:53 321 13027.14111598 92.729
191626 197827fcce... 2012-07-31 04:00:18 707 9648.2683871 249.085
191625 8484956a95... 2012-07-31 03:54:52 522 10216.30866425 251.212
191624 5e0949ebae... 2012-07-31 03:38:17 23 676.48270597 9.817
191623 5241049efc... 2012-07-31 03:27:11 630 23463.67137221 419.942
191622 76b892483f... 2012-07-31 03:00:31 1024 94018.78380609 345.854
191621 7dd45a87e7... 2012-07-31 02:36:47 528 28967.48148827 251.77
191620 733fbae98f... 2012-07-31 01:38:07 298 3743.46173064 117.679
191619 7407be1164... 2012-07-31 01:36:47 113 30129.97570177 67.544
191618 2c5ca7b4bf... 2012-07-31 01:16:04 1024 64516.54980258 284.004
191617 5b6d3bc139... 2012-07-31 01:10:45 182 19242.06689571 92.984
191616 7b09737978... 2012-07-31 01:03:21 50 1155.0122651 26.046
191615 15690aea5d... 2012-07-31 01:01:28 400 5527.99876897 209.244
191614 567e6ec329... 2012-07-31 00:56:38 118 8321.53871726 40.52
191613 51cbf5b775... 2012-07-31 00:53:05 3 1054.23557038 3.516
191612 10b772c976... 2012-07-31 00:45:05 96 2770.73263067 49.063
191611 6e26cf32db... 2012-07-31 00:40:18 110 7141.40429737 49.01
191610 2413d1e162... 2012-07-31 00:25:28 94 5277.4114265 48.721
But 23k coins in one block? 10k? in another? the above is hard to read, but if you go to blockexplorer, its a let easer to see..
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vinny - you think there is any chance of getting our money from there?
Everyone is saying they were hacked. Maybe the admins or whoever will make a statement or do individual investigations. I made a Mt. Gox and a bitcoin desktop wallet and had the BTC-e wallet and I'll be damned if I can't find my withdrawl.
Fuuuuuuuuuck.
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...This is going to have very bad ramifications to the bitcoin...
To be honest I don't think this will affect Bitcoin all that much; it's likely the hacker only got away with around 10,000 BTC - an amount that would have completely destabilised the market a year ago, but judging from recent hacks and Bitcoin 'disasters', security issues of such a small amount don't even dent the market anymore. Bitcoin will be just fine, prices will fluctuate as they normally do, and all will stabilise in a couple of days. No worries! :)
- grahamgreene
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...This is going to have very bad ramifications to the bitcoin...
To be honest I don't think this will affect Bitcoin all that much; it's likely the hacker only got away with around 10,000 BTC - an amount that would have completely destabilised the market a year ago, but judging from recent hacks and Bitcoin 'disasters', security issues of such a small amount don't even dent the market anymore. Bitcoin will be just fine, prices will fluctuate as they normally do, and all will stabilise in a couple of days. No worries! :)
- grahamgreene
187k BTC :)
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I can't find my transaction in the blockchain and I have a feeling anyone dumb enough to send their coins to BTC-e got ripped off for trying to be greedy and buy coins at $9 at Mt. Gox and sell them at around $40 at BTC-e.
I think I might have been fucked out of ~$200. Man this sucks.
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BTC-E in run by Russians that barely speak English at all, it's a train wreck! Sorry to all that lost money there today!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=96802.msg1067118#msg1067118
The btc-e.com is going so crazy I can't keep up. This is going to be bad for the bit for sure.
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After all this, my actual account balance in my buyer account has remained pretty much the same, but my balance in my vendor account has been cut in less than half! WTH! can someone please explain this?
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Wow I find this on the first night I'm ever about to go purchase some bitcoins.... I've got such weird luck...
I really hope there are no terrible ramifications from this whole thing.
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Any idea of the amount stolen/manipulated?
Matrix 8)
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Any idea of the amount stolen/manipulated?
Matrix 8)
Hey EnterTheMatrix,
There was a BTC withdrawal limit of 2,000 BTC per 24 hour period. Apparently the "hacker" used fake Liberty Reserve USD to buy Bitcoin, so it looks as though it was only 2,000 BTC stolen.
This post from "BkkCoins" over at bitcointalk.org (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=96802.280) explains what is now likely to happen:
They can reverse all the trades and restore balance to pre-hack time. But they will not be able to give back BTC that have been withdrawn. So either they make good and buy it in the market, or they say tough luck and customers lose. I expect they'll reverse everything and then see how much BTC they would need to buy. And at that point they'll decide who loses.
So my earlier estimate of 10,000 BTC and QuikMart's estimate of 187,000 BTC were both well off the mark.
- grahamgreene
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i have no idea whats going on but i need 4 more coins to open an account and its going to cost me that much for 1 btc..... :(
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is this why SR is down, or is it just me?
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I've always used Mt.Gox, is it safe to buy coins (on Mt.Gox) and make purchases on SR now? 10k stolen isn't that much and shouldn't really affect the market.
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The weird thing is at first glance, it looks legit, but i the bitcoin people are saying that it has to be a btc-e hack... why cant sites get really good security??? Something is wrong...
BTC-E got hacked or it was an inside job and did another bitcoinica or whatever.. It all comes down to your own security... Dont put your coin where you CANT control it... Im guessing that there will be some official "Bitcoin" governing body soon, these scams just dont stop.. it will destroy the bitcoin before it gets going... Something has to be done about these scams..
I agree with you on that, but what do we do with the orders placed while BTC was >$18? Is SR taking it's exchange rate from BTC-E? I am really confused, should I cancel them?
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I agree with you on that, but what do we do with the orders placed while BTC was >$18? Is SR taking it's exchange rate from BTC-E? I am really confused, should I cancel them?
There was a post from DPR on what the SR admins are doing earlier in the thread, skip back and read that first. One of the things they have done is fixed the exchage rate to $9.00 USD until things settle, but there is more work being done.
Anyway, go read what DPR has to say and then make a decision. DPR's post is here:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=33244.msg378926#msg378926
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I agree with you on that, but what do we do with the orders placed while BTC was >$18? Is SR taking it's exchange rate from BTC-E? I am really confused, should I cancel them?
There was a post from DPR on what the SR admins are doing earlier in the thread, skip back and read that first. One of the things they have done is fixed the exchage rate to $9.00 USD until things settle, but there is more work being done.
Anyway, go read what DPR has to say and then make a decision. DPR's post is here:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=33244.msg378926#msg378926
Thank you so much. I was too agitated to read the whole thread carefully.
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I agree with you on that, but what do we do with the orders placed while BTC was >$18? Is SR taking it's exchange rate from BTC-E? I am really confused, should I cancel them?
There was a post from DPR on what the SR admins are doing earlier in the thread, skip back and read that first. One of the things they have done is fixed the exchage rate to $9.00 USD until things settle, but there is more work being done.
Anyway, go read what DPR has to say and then make a decision. DPR's post is here:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=33244.msg378926#msg378926
Thank you so much. I was too agitated to read the whole thread carefully.
No problem. :)
Just remember, when you're getting agitated and a bit frantic, that's when you need to step back, take a deep breath, relax and then attack the problem calmly ad logically.
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Dear users of the Exchange Btc-e.com
The exchange is not going to close. We will refund all losses from our reserves.
Neither the servers nor the database were compromised. There were no SQL injections.
At 04:07 MSK (GMT+4) our LR API Secret Key was compromised. It's 16 uppercase, lowercase letters and digits. They may have bruteforced it for long.
Using the key the hacker imitated LR deposits from many accounts and bought up Bitcoins, Namecoins and Litecoins.
We lost our daily volume, approx. 4500 BTC. The attacker couldn't withdraw more
as most BTC were distributed over several offline wallets.
At 10:30 we restored the database to the state it was at 04:00, right before the attack. All trades after 4:00 are reverted.
People who attempted withdrawals before 04:00 MSK will get their funds withdrawn later today.
For people who deposited BTC, LTC and NMC after 04:00 MSK the funds will be put to their balances before market opens.
We are working on the scripts for this.
If you deposited USD after 04:00 MSK you should send us your login, amount and payment system used by email or PM.
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Thank you so much. I was too agitated to read the whole thread carefully.
No problem. :)
Just remember, when you're getting agitated and a bit frantic, that's when you need to step back, take a deep breath, relax and then attack the problem calmly ad logically.
You should have seen me when Bitcoinica crashed.. ;)
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Thank you so much. I was too agitated to read the whole thread carefully.
No problem. :)
Just remember, when you're getting agitated and a bit frantic, that's when you need to step back, take a deep breath, relax and then attack the problem calmly ad logically.
You should have seen me when Bitcoinica crashed.. ;)
Haha! :)
This is one thing the stoners have right; just kick back, relax and wait for things to settle.
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Does anyone have any updates because only 1.8 BTC has hit my account and I had about 20 bitcoins....
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I picked a hell of a day to buy my first bitcoins it appears. haha, at least my face value is still pretty much what I expected. shewwww
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Hey guys thanks for all the informative posts. I have a question that I didn't find the answer to.I made a buy today when the exchange rate was normal, do you think my order will get canceled? What do you guys think will happen with purchases made before this problem?
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so did anyone make 20k or lose a fortune or is it all just back to normal ?
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Looks like we all back to normal.
Good news BTC-e recovered.
That would mean no "cash out" crash?
SR Admin might want to learn from this lesson, and throw out bogus BTC values in the rolling average ;)
I see BTC on the rise again today.
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Well it may be time to play the exchange game..... If you can sell your bitcoins on btc-e for $30 and buy them on mtgox for $9... this looks like an opportunity. The only down side is that it's taking 1 hour to crack the last bitcoin block :( so it would be time consuming to go back and forth. Hope it last long enough for me to double or quadruple my money.
Not a good idea.
^^ The Man, the Myth, the Legend.
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i'm totally buying a fuckload of bitcoins early next may.
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You're new here, but don't bump dead threads unless you have something really important to contribute. You can see above a post when it was posted, so check there next time to avoid bumping an old thread.
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200K for that amount of BTC............ sign me up...NOW!!!! I want to make bank like everyone else!!!!!!!! I would have to be a really good vendor though!!!
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You're new here, but don't bump dead threads unless you have something really important to contribute. You can see above a post when it was posted, so check there next time to avoid bumping an old thread.
lol, i'm far from "new" here 8) i'm one of the local shape shifters
just talkin shit on the forums for entertainment's sake....