Silk Road forums

Discussion => Security => Topic started by: Limetless on June 29, 2012, 09:01 am

Title: Where can I get TorChat for MAC
Post by: Limetless on June 29, 2012, 09:01 am
FOR MAC PLEASE.

Thaaaaaaaaank you very much. :)

Lim
Title: Re: Where can I get TorChat for MAC
Post by: LouisCyphre on June 29, 2012, 09:14 am
FOR MAC PLEASE.

Thaaaaaaaaank you very much. :)

Lim

Here:

http://www.sourcemac.com/?page=torchat
Title: Re: Where can I get TorChat for MAC
Post by: Limetless on June 29, 2012, 09:31 am
Cheers mate.
Title: Re: Where can I get TorChat for MAC
Post by: LouisCyphre on June 29, 2012, 09:33 am
Cheers mate.

You're welcome.
Title: Re: Where can I get TorChat for MAC
Post by: kmfkewm on June 29, 2012, 10:53 am
You don't want to use Torchat. In addition to being a buggy piece of shit, it also requires that you run as a hidden service which in itself makes you far less anonymous. Torchat is not secure.
Title: Re: Where can I get TorChat for MAC
Post by: LouisCyphre on June 29, 2012, 11:43 am
You don't want to use Torchat. In addition to being a buggy piece of shit, it also requires that you run as a hidden service which in itself makes you far less anonymous. Torchat is not secure.

Maybe it's just my status as an old fart revealing itself, but I've never trusted any chat program. Gawd knows there's been enough vulnerabilities found in them over the years.

Personally speaking, I wouldn’t touch it with a barge pole.

Whereas I just can't be bothered screwing around with a chat client and Tor.  Jabber with OTR in "real life" (clearnet) happens sometimes, though.
Title: Re: Where can I get TorChat for MAC
Post by: randomOVDB#2 on July 17, 2012, 10:01 am
It is possible for OTR to be MITMed pretty easily unless you use the provided tools to detect / avoid this. Most people don't but they really should.

More info please ?

Title: Re: Where can I get TorChat for MAC
Post by: TravellingWithoutMoving on July 17, 2012, 11:39 pm
..isnt jabber the better option? what were the reasons again for chosing silc pidgin over jabber?!


Thanks
TWM
Title: Re: Where can I get TorChat for MAC
Post by: LouisCyphre on July 18, 2012, 09:24 am
..isnt jabber the better option? what were the reasons again for chosing silc pidgin over jabber?!

Pidgin is just a client (a very good one), Jabber is a protocol.  People use Pidgin to access Jabber accounts (as well as other IM protocols).
Title: Re: Where can I get TorChat for MAC
Post by: TravellingWithoutMoving on July 19, 2012, 07:25 pm
..isnt jabber the better option? what were the reasons again for chosing silc pidgin over jabber?!

Pidgin is just a client (a very good one), Jabber is a protocol.  People use Pidgin to access Jabber accounts (as well as other IM protocols).

..silc plugin in pidgin versus any jabber enabled client (including pidgin)?!

there are numerous protocols that can be enabled in pidgin depending on where you got it from, which were included and the facebook etc
ones you've added.


TWM
Title: Re: Where can I get TorChat for MAC
Post by: LouisCyphre on July 20, 2012, 04:10 am
..isnt jabber the better option? what were the reasons again for chosing silc pidgin over jabber?!

Pidgin is just a client (a very good one), Jabber is a protocol.  People use Pidgin to access Jabber accounts (as well as other IM protocols).

..silc plugin in pidgin versus any jabber enabled client (including pidgin)?!

there are numerous protocols that can be enabled in pidgin depending on where you got it from, which were included and the facebook etc
ones you've added.

Right, I misread what you were saying and had forgotten about SILC (haven't even looked at it in at least a couple of years).

SILC is currently trying to become a standard protocol, but still hasn't even made it to an initial RFC.  Unlike XMPP (Jabber) which has at least four initial RFCs, three of which have been superceded by more recent ones.  This is at least indicative of a greater degree of effort being devoted to XMPP.

SILC appears to have some other limitations, such as only supporting SHA-1 and MD5 hashes.  The crypto FAQ on their site indicated there are a number of items supported by the protocol which their own software does not yet support (e.g. using OpenPGP keys or SSH keys).  Which reminds me why I stopped looking at it: it's a good idea, but not ready for production use.
Title: Re: Where can I get TorChat for MAC
Post by: TravellingWithoutMoving on July 21, 2012, 09:37 am
..no problem perhaps my initial post didnt explain; seems to me there isnt any more silc (client or plugin) development thought the last update
was around 2008; their documentation is not clear and is a general run-around, so called developers dont get back to you -so i agree seems
pointless and a dead-end, was just curious why the decision to use pidgin +silc for the initial silc chat room if jabber protocol (client) is the nuts?!

TWM
{sorry to highjack this thread..}
Title: Re: Where can I get TorChat for MAC
Post by: LouisCyphre on July 21, 2012, 09:55 am
..no problem perhaps my initial post didnt explain; seems to me there isnt any more silc (client or plugin) development thought the last update
was around 2008; their documentation is not clear and is a general run-around, so called developers dont get back to you -so i agree seems
pointless and a dead-end, was just curious why the decision to use pidgin +silc for the initial silc chat room if jabber protocol (client) is the nuts?!

As near as I can tell, you were the first person to mention SILC at all.  Unless that's what is used by TorChat, that is.  I'm not sure because I don't run it.