Quote from: RandomFellow on July 30, 2012, 10:16 amIt is not PGP per se that is the problem. I am a very experienced user of many bits of obscure and technical software. The problem with PGP is the apps required to use it. I have never seen such over engineered clunky rubbish put up as some kind of consumer product. They are mostly awful, invasive and unfriendly.. If people insist on using it over Tor (which is redundant in my view) then the simplest I found is Gpg4win.GPG isn't clunky. Complex, to be sure, but not clunky.Some of the GUIs available for it are another matter entirely, they can get a bit horrible, but they can also be entirely circumvented by utilising the command line (which is true for both GPG and PGP, which are different programs and most people here use GPG).There are aspects that may never be as "user friendly" as the typical Windows user might like, but that's the in the nature of as sophisticated a topic as public key cryptography using asymmetric key pairs. There is continuous work to make it easier, but that's a process. Quick fixes have the drawback of introducing unintended security flaws, which is to be avoided.Don't believe me? Go and read the source code for GPG and then try to tell me where the "over engineered clunky rubbish" is.You're assumption that Tor, which also uses encryption, renders GPG redundant is based on the premise that all the servers you interact with on Tor are secure enough to store sensitive data (such as your real name and address), potentially indefinitely. This assumption places a level of trust in these servers (e.g. Silk Road servers, Tor Mail servers, etc.) which may or may not be valid, since there is no independent security audit to verify them there's no way of knowing how data is stored, for how long it is stored and how securely data is deleted if and/or when that occurs. Under these circumstances utilising the level of encryption available to OpenPGP compliant systems is not redundant, it is desirable.Finally, as the name suggests, GPG4Win is a Windows only port of GPG 2.0.x and is not a solution for a lot of people here.