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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: DaFuck on August 26, 2013, 05:09 pm
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---UPDATE 9.15----
I requested the ban to be removed as per DPR's instructions:
you were only meant to be suspended for 8 days if I recall was either a bug or human error. This can be corrected by contacting support. and yes it was for the vulgarity. As clearly stated on the discussion pages, they are not a free for all and you must use a polite tone.
and this is the response i get from SR Support:
If you had asked us to consider reducing the discussion ban that would be one thing and we may have done so, but making demands of us is another thing entirely; your original discussion ban will remain in place.
It is quite evident now that the 100 day ban for pointing out reckless vendor behavior on thier disucussion page was meant to make an example out of me just like the court system does to drug offenders.
I dont know what else to say, welcome to SR 2.0.
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I received this in my SR inbox after bringing up a very real concern about the vendor cyanspore picking WILD mushrooms and then powdering them so no one could see what they were getting. All i wanted was them to NOT powder it so i could make sure a poisonous mushroom didnt slip in but the vendor refused saying he wasnt able to ship them whole and that it was a security risk to him and that i wouldnt know what i was looking for anyways.
Do not reply Your discussion privledges have been suspended for 100 day(s) because of the following post:
So your are saying your customers should go out and buy a $300 microscope and meticulously scan their entire order for rogue spores because you are not setup to put mushrooms in a box? I would have no problems trusting my vendor if it didnt mean bleeding out my rectum.<br />
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You know the irony of it all, if you did miss a poisonous shroom your customer wouldnt be alive to tell us about it.
Please use a polite tone and stay on topic when posting next time.
Best regards,
Silk Road staff
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Do not reply Your discussion privledges have been suspended for 9 day(s) because of the following post:
So your are saying your customers should go out and buy a $300 microscope and meticulously scan their entire order for rogue spores because you are not setup to put mushrooms in a box? I would have no problems trusting my vendor if it didnt mean bleeding out my rectum.<br />
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You know the irony of it all, if you did miss a poisonous shroom your customer wouldnt be alive to tell us about it.
Please use a polite tone and stay on topic when posting next time.
Best regards,
Silk Road staff
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In the last few pages of the "updates on discussion feature" thread cyanspore complains publicly about this which caused us both to get suspended for 9 days for "not being polite".
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=205590.30
these new forums need to fucking go. All of a sudden I have ignorant pricks trying to ruin my business...30 years of hard work down the drain because of one ignorant prick
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/discussion/item/41b3079fd8
both cyanspore and the person he was "discussing" his item with have had their discussion privileges suspended for ignoring the discussion guideline of using a polite tone.
So thats how it works, "polite" according to DPR is anything that doesnt show the vendor in a negative light, even if he is willfully putting his customers health at risk.
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So whats the point of the discussion then if you can't speak the truth? It's designed to bolster the vendors profile, with no benefits to the buyer?
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I'm not all the active on the forums here so I know my opinion won't carry much weight but I have to agree with DaFuck on this one. I could understand if he directly insulted the vendor or if even used vulgarity (but freedom of speech is a big one isn't it?) but he did not.
The only item is question was the comment about bleeding out his rectum. While not very tasteful, it does not rise to the level I would expect of a 100 day discussion ban. This new feedback system has it's pros and cons but this is a major NO in my opinion.
He criticized a vendor without using vulgar language or insulting the vendor. What gives?
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We're trying to anonymously buy and sell drugs here and mods are suspending people for a potential customer asking about a product? What the fuck happened to drug safety?
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any reply from SR MODS?
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you were only meant to be suspended for 8 days if I recall was either a bug or human error. This can be corrected by contacting support. and yes it was for the vulgarity. As clearly stated on the discussion pages, they are not a free for all and you must use a polite tone.
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To the new DPR: Why have two of my posts to two separate threads that you have created just disappeared? This has only happened when the comments were bringing up issues I had/have with the site that are most certainly legitimate in my view anyway.
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To the new DPR: Why have two of my posts to two separate threads that you have created just disappeared? This has only happened when the comments were bringing up issues I had/have with the site that are most certainly legitimate in my view anyway.
they were not relevant to the thread. this post is also not relevant to this thread. stop cluttering up other people's threads.
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My apologies for the cluttering up of your threads. I only wish to have some kind of voice on the forums when you open up for discussion on particular topics. I will also apologize if you feel I was impolite or my tone was scathing or something, that was not my intention. I am intending to be sincere here, not sarcastic with the apologies, please let that be clear here. I am just interested as to why my posts in particular were deleted? Were there not other contributors to your threads that were also off topic? And were their posts deleted as well? Thank you at the very least for responding to me directly. Take care.
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FUCK. SHIT. CUNT. ASS. ASSHOLE. SHIT. MOTHERFUCKER. DICK SUCKER. ETC....
These are all examples of vulgarity.
"Bleeding out his rectum" is not.
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"bleeding out his rectum" used any other way than literally/clinically is vulgar imo.
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Actually, I believe he was referring to literally bleeding out his rectum. He was referring to the results of ingesting mushrooms that were not the correct sort and could cause medical problems.
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We used to pick the liberty caps wild all the time. But we identified them by shape, gill pattern and spore print. You really have to know your stuff htough, there are some look a likes that are really dangerous.
I don't like powdered mushrooms even if cultivated. I want to see the species and check it for mold.
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Actually, I believe he was referring to literally bleeding out his rectum. He was referring to the results of ingesting mushrooms that were not the correct sort and could cause medical problems.
OH MY GOD! I am laughing right now, but that sounds horrible. I am so,so sorry for whomever is dealing with that. Just keep up your fluids and be careful of high fiber foods or something that will run right through you if you are in really bad shape or have lacerations or something. I guess I spoke too soon...
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Uh yeah WTF, he wasnt being vulgar, alot of poisonous mushrooms literally cause you to bleed out your rectum. Maybe u dont want to hear that but that is literally what happens if u take one. Literally.
http://www.merckmanuals.com/professional/injuries_poisoning/poisoning/mushroom_poisoning.html
Early GI symptoms: Mushrooms that cause early GI symptoms (eg, Chlorophyllum molybdites and the little brown mushrooms that often grow in lawns) cause gastroenteritis, sometimes with headaches or myalgias. Diarrhea is occasionally bloody. Symptoms usually resolve within 24 h. Treatment is supportive.
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this was directed at me and my psilocybe cyanescens
Like tesselated, I too used to pick liberty caps all the time. I've been picking cyanescens for over 30 years. They are not that hard to distinguish once you master them. I have mastered them
However i can't send whole mushrooms because i can't send packages, or rather, i can't get postage for packages and stay anonymous, so I have to powder it and send it nice and thin
Not that sending whole ones would do much good because because you likely would not be able to identify them when they have been dried, and the must be dried. In fact, being able to powder them is one indication they are dry enough. If they're not dry enough, they won't grind up. If they are not dry enough, they will also develop bacteria and rot, just like any vegetable, which is actually where most poisonings come from
there is a misconception about mushrooms and it comes from ignorance and not being educated. There is absolutely NO reason why anyone in 2013 should get poisoned because of mis-identification of mushrooms. There is a huge amount of documentation of the clearnet, with more photos you can possibly imagine and places like the Shroomery where you can send in photos and experts will look at them
All I can do in this situation is tell people I'm an expert. I have vended for nearly 6 months with no problems whatsoever. Nearly 100% satisfaction. Nobody is going to get poisoned from my shrooms. It ain't gonna happen. You might think it's possible if you are an amateur and don't know the species, but once you know it, you know it. It's impossible to go wrong
It's no different than picking morels in idaho or whoever. Once you learn you morels, you can pick them year after year with no problems. Every year the same people sell them on Ebay, with no problem
The problems come from amateurs...I am not one of them
Anyway, I apologize for blowing up about it, but it drives me up the wall when I can't seem to explain enough that I'm an expert and people don't believe it's possible..or something. If you don't believe it, then just don't buy it
I have plenty of true believers already..repeat customers..They are happy, and they are happy with powder. It goes down and mixes easier anyway
and btw, I'll be glad to answer any w questions about how they are identified. It's not a secret. It's extremely well documented, and so are liberty caps. They're just hard to find unless you have experience
It's true that in terms of population percentage, there aren't that many real experts. Lots of amateurs, but few real experts. Lots of people go hunting for cyanescens and liberty caps every year. the season already started in UK and Norway. look it up in the hunting section at Shroomery.org
Tessellated knows. he's been out in the cow fields..So have I..we both know that once you really learn, then you know. It's not that hard unless you're completely color blinds or have bad eyesight
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"bleeding out his rectum" used any other way than literally/clinically is vulgar imo.
Of course it is. However he was using it, literally, in the the literal sense. Literally.
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renal failure and vascular collapse are two of the symptoms of toxic mushroom poisonings, most notably amanita phalloides. aka death caps. Blood in the stool and urine is one of the sypmotons. That species is the most common poisoning in north america, usually from south east asian immigrants who mistake them for edibles in their home country
mycological societies send out warnings every year in many languages because of this. The are big white and yellow mushrooms with white dots on them. They are mistaken for other big white ones that are edible.
They are never confused with the much smaller brown and blue psilocybe species although other little brown mushrooms can also be toxic and contain the same amatoxins, like gallerina autumnalis and Those have rusty brown spores where psilocybes have purple brown spores. It's not that hard to tell the difference once you learn it, see this part of my thread for more
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=137891.60
That is not something that's made up and is a legitimate concern, but again it would be a concern if a vendor did not know what he was doing
Ironically, what is much more common and I've seen this in this forum is diarrhea cause by bacteria because good cubensis were not dried out correctly. Historically, dealers do this because water is weight, and if you don't dry them out, they weigh more. But they will also rot, like any perishable vegetable and bacteria cultures will start to grow and eat the flesh of good mushrooms...That is why all mushrooms must be delivered and eaten and refrigerated while fresh within 1-3 days, otherwise they MUST be dried. Drying them kills the bacteria. Bacteria need water to survive
this also happens in the wild with p cyanescens and other wild magic mushroom once they've passed their peak. they will rot. they will turn dark and start smelling really nasty. They will make you sick, but not kill you. instead they'll make you sit on the toilet for a day or two, and while tripping. Bad toilet trip if you don't handle them properly. Tripping balls while sitting on the toilet is NOT fun
Anyway, it's a legitimate concern and it DOES happen. That type of 'poisoning' is more common and usually happens with inexperienced or unscrupulous cubensis vendors. Experienced and ethical vendors that will never happen, like the other top vendor who also powders his mycelium mushrooms, USAshroomz and his Galindoi
I don't even have to ask him since he's had plenty of experience and no reports of toilet tripping, I know he dries it out completely before shipping
If you can bend the stem without snapping it, it's not dry enough. Especially it it starts smelling nasty, don't eat it
This, btw, is one of the reasons we use moisture barrier bags and vacuum it. It's not just stealth, but to make sure they are kept dry
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i have picked Cyanescens for about 20 years and what cyanspore says is true.
once you know what your doing its impossible to mistake it for a look-alike.
but i watch people who are new at it pick the wrong ones all the time.
you need to do a close inspection of the stem,gills,cap,colour of the spores
then you know you got the right one.
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While reading this thread, I would like to recall a story from a guide while trekking one time in the American SW. I bring up something regarding local edible plants while hiking, and he goes into a story of a PHD mycologist harvesting some wild fungus which he misidentified, then turned into pasta sauce. Turns out the species was extremely toxic and the professor, along with 2 other Grad students died.There are many taxonomic differences, morphology,spore structure.. et cetra to be cognizant. Even the pros can make mistakes especially when you're biased in your infallibility... "Positive Results Bias"
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yeah I've heard those stories to. They are mostly just stories. On very rare occasions experienced people have made mistakes but unless you can find the news article on it, it's just that, urban legend, and is the very thing that contributes to the fear and ignorance surrounding mushrooms. I aim to not just vend here, but destroy fear and ignorance surrounding mushrooms. There is no reason for it in 2013 with the internet. When i started hunting 30 years ago, there was no internet. All we had was a couple of shitty Audubon books with crappy pictures and nothing else. It was mostly word of mouth back then and even then we managed to figure out which ones were right
To sit there and tell me people can't even get a rudimentary education on something they are going to ingest just smacks of laziness. This holds true for ANY drug you buy here on SR..Do you know how your coke is made?..Your LSD?, Your pills?..Your other powders?
I eat my own mushrooms regularly and have done so for years. I trust my own ability more than i would trust a manufactured substance, because as far as I'm concerned, as long as you correctly pick the right species, it's guaranteed. I know what I'm getting. I don't know what I'm getting in a pill, or some other man made powder, do you?. Basically, I have a really really hard time believing people are that idiotic that they would trust a man made pill or powder over a correctly identified psilocybe mushroom. It just doesn't make sense. In terms of my mushrooms being powdered, the only reason why it would be suspect is the suspicion that it's adulterated. That is to say, something is ADDED to it. There can't be any question of whether or not the powder was made right in the first place because it isn't made, it's grown
BTW, I just changed my listing to reflect the following
I cannot send mushrooms whole not because I can't send them whole or get packaging. It's because where I live I can no longer buy POSTAGE for packages with cash. It's all automated now and you cannot buy postage at the post office anymore. Only stamps. For packages you must use a machine now and they don't take cash
ALL post offices will be going this way eventually, so it's only a matter of time before everyone here is reduced to nice thin envelopes
so enjoy your whole mushrooms while you can, cause those are sent from areas that haven't been automated yet
I also want to add that fear and ignorance is exactly what made psilocybe mushrooms illegal in the first place, and why I'm stuck on the dark web and not on ebay where i should be with the morel hunters. If it was legal, then I could be insured and bonded and all that jazz and actually BE accountable under my real name, including periodic testing to ensure that it is in fact this accurate species
think about THEM apples
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update. I just got an urgent message about mushroom poisoning, and it wasn't my shrooms
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=173822.msg1488616#msg1488616
There actually IS a possibility those shrooms were adulterated. It's been done before where vendors add chemicals to shrooms to give it a bigger kick. Just because it's indoor grown does NOT mean it's automatically safer than wild picked ones
Well shit. looks like I'm going to have to spend time here and educate people
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A simple Google query: " Mycology Professor Poisoning" will return many links indicating the common mistake of poisoning. I am sure you are extremely experienced, but indigenous individuals who practice subsistence living can make mistakes too....Phenotype variation among the species can trick even the most experienced. I agree, that mushrooms are pretty safe if used responsibly by adults; however this is not the argument. My focus is on incorrect identification of wild species.
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Does happen.
CLEARWEB: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/8574915.stm
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I received this in my SR inbox after bringing up a very real concern about the vendor cyanspore picking WILD mushrooms and then powdering them so no one could see what they were getting. All i wanted was them to NOT powder it so i could make sure a poisonous mushroom didnt slip in but the vendor refused saying he wasnt able to ship them whole and that it was a security risk to him and that i wouldnt know what i was looking for anyways.
Do not reply Your discussion privledges have been suspended for 100 day(s) because of the following post:
So your are saying your customers should go out and buy a $300 microscope and meticulously scan their entire order for rogue spores because you are not setup to put mushrooms in a box? I would have no problems trusting my vendor if it didnt mean bleeding out my rectum.<br />
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You know the irony of it all, if you did miss a poisonous shroom your customer wouldnt be alive to tell us about it.
Please use a polite tone and stay on topic when posting next time.
Best regards,
Silk Road staff
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Do not reply Your discussion privledges have been suspended for 9 day(s) because of the following post:
So your are saying your customers should go out and buy a $300 microscope and meticulously scan their entire order for rogue spores because you are not setup to put mushrooms in a box? I would have no problems trusting my vendor if it didnt mean bleeding out my rectum.<br />
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You know the irony of it all, if you did miss a poisonous shroom your customer wouldnt be alive to tell us about it.
Please use a polite tone and stay on topic when posting next time.
Best regards,
Silk Road staff
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In the last few pages of the "updates on discussion feature" thread cyanspore complains publicly about this which caused us both to get suspended for 9 days for "not being polite".
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=205590.30
these new forums need to fucking go. All of a sudden I have ignorant pricks trying to ruin my business...30 years of hard work down the drain because of one ignorant prick
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/discussion/item/41b3079fd8
both cyanspore and the person he was "discussing" his item with have had their discussion privileges suspended for ignoring the discussion guideline of using a polite tone.
So thats how it works, "polite" according to DPR is anything that doesnt show the vendor in a negative light, even if he is willfully putting his customers health at risk.
I agree, we are all adults, there are times that really piss me off though when people do have a go at others for no other reason that they are hiding behind a keyboard.
Anyway, I am posting to ask, why if you are suspended, can you post here?
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The suspension is for the main Silk Road, not these forums. It's weird how a user with a lifetime total of 5 transactions who spends around £10 a month is able to so completely screw over a Vendor with over 300 transactions.
I'm thinking of growing shrooms. At this rate I'm considering sending the shrooms whole and simply grinding the Customer into dust. ;-)
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The suspension is for the main Silk Road, not these forums. It's weird how a user with a lifetime total of 5 transactions who spends around £10 a month is able to so completely screw over a Vendor with over 300 transactions.
I'm thinking of growing shrooms. At this rate I'm considering sending the shrooms whole and simply grinding the Customer into dust. ;-)
Exactly, in fact because of this I was banned on my own listing discuss page because I got pissed because this is like fear mongering and it's already destroyed my business, at least in the short term
the fact is, sending them whole isn't going to prove anything. Unscrupulous vendors can adulterate mushrooms with any of a thousand chemicals and you would never know it unless it's tested, or you had a strange reaction like this other guy just did
You're either going to trust the vendor or not. If you don't trust the vendor, just don't buy it. But this new system enables people to make others needlessly paranoid and question that trust when I have had no issues for 6 months and over 1000 transactions. If that's not enough to gain trust, I don't what possibly can be
this new system is already drawing complaints from vendors because it bypasses the feedback system already in place and well established. we already have this forum for anyone to ask about shrooms and who can be trusted and whatever
Luckily for me I do have some repeat customers and many people already know my shrooms are good, but as far as new customers, maybe not anymore because of this
there's gotta be a better way than vendors losing control of their own listing
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Does happen.
CLEARWEB: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/8574915.stm
Yes, this is exactly what i described in a previous post here, that the most common poisoning is with amanita phalloides mistaken for edibles by south east asian immigrants
It has very little to do with cyanescens and only one case of mistaken ID is associated with cyanescens, with an 8 year old child who picked them in the wild...in the 1970's...It's on wikipedia
Cyanescens does in fact have phenotype variations and this is the newly named psilocybe allenii. It is identical in all microscopic characteristics to cyanescens except for macro shape...cyans get wavy while allenii are bigger and do not get wavy
This was not enough to make a new species name under mycological classification and was considered a variation of psilocybe cyanescens for over 30 years. It wasn't until recent DNA /RNA mapping that showed distinct mating incompatibility with some samples of cyanescens that a new name was accepted, and that is in fact the newest psilocybe
psilocybe allenii
and it has it's own wiki page now > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybe_allenii
we have been picking and eating these for over 15 years in these parts even before it was properly named because even tho it didn't match cyanescens perfectly, it still matched cyanescens under a microscope and still turned blue, still had a white stem and general color, and once it was tested by eating a single cap, then we all knew this new species was good to go. They are the same potency as cyanescens, the trip is nearly identical with the same alkaloids, and you wouldn't be able to tell any difference except for the cap shape
It's sort of like a genetic mutation where cyanescens decided to fork and split and create a sub section, possibly because of climate change?..nobody knows, but it's here now and it's spreading like a weed
If my business hasn't been completely destroyed by this unwarranted fearmongering, I will be offering spore prints of both cyanescens and allenii this fall
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This is true, but unlikley with mycology professors themselves. There actually is a sub field of mycology that deals exclusively with slime molds and I've read about some adventurous students/professors sampling some of them and that is kind of dangerous as it is the most difficult part of mycology and requires microscopes and DNA mapping
If a professor of mycology did get poisoned, and I still can't find a link for it, it's likely that the professor is already investigating very rare or emerging species which happens all the time. In other words, it's extremely unlikely a mycology professor is going to get poisoned confusing well established species
You know the famous saying. there old mushroom hunters and there are bold mushroom hunters, but here are no old AND bold mushroom hunters
and that's been true for a long time. Mycology is always updating and we've only scratched the surface with naming species, but most of us are quite conservative and I for one stick to only 1 or 2 species and have mastered that
If you master 1 or 2 species and stay with that, it'll never do you wrong
In fact I know some of the top experts around here and some of them can name you 4000 species from memory.. But they're not about to eat all of them
A simple Google query: " Mycology Professor Poisoning" will return many links indicating the common mistake of poisoning. I am sure you are extremely experienced, but indigenous individuals who practice subsistence living can make mistakes too....Phenotype variation among the species can trick even the most experienced. I agree, that mushrooms are pretty safe if used responsibly by adults; however this is not the argument. My focus is on incorrect identification of wild species.
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yay, I got unbanned from my own listing!
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/discussion/item/41b3079fd8
I feel...I feel...hmmm..I'm not sure what to feel
But I did say 'yay' so i got that going for me, at least
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Good, common sense prevails!
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you were only meant to be suspended for 8 days if I recall was either a bug or human error. This can be corrected by contacting support. and yes it was for the vulgarity. As clearly stated on the discussion pages, they are not a free for all and you must use a polite tone.
still censored.
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you were only meant to be suspended for 8 days if I recall was either a bug or human error. This can be corrected by contacting support. and yes it was for the vulgarity. As clearly stated on the discussion pages, they are not a free for all and you must use a polite tone.
still censored.
Send another message to SR Support and we'll take a look.
Libertas
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Op updated, i requested the ban be lifted and was denied. SR staff admitted to having no intention to lifting the ban.
If you had asked us to consider reducing the discussion ban that would be one thing and we may have done so, but making demands of us is another thing entirely; your original discussion ban will remain in place.
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Op updated, i requested the ban be lifted and was denied. SR staff admitted to having no intention to lifting the ban.
If you had asked us to consider reducing the discussion ban that would be one thing and we may have done so, but making demands of us is another thing entirely; your original discussion ban will remain in place.
A couple of issues with the way you're skewing the facts:
1. You did not request that the ban be lifted - you sent in something bluntly similar to "Remove the discussion ban" if I recall correctly, a demand that was met with stonewalling.
2. You made no mention of this thread, nor of the fact that you were previously advised that it was human error and that DPR stated it should have been 8 days. You simply demanded that we "Remove the discussion ban", and we declined as you provided no backstory to the ban; with your failure to provide the circumstances surrounding the ban, it stood to reason that the staff member may have been justified in their decision to ban you for 100 days.
3. As it was in fact human error you can message SR Support again (with a link to this thread) and we will remove the ban entirely as it has been more than 8 days.
4. If you break the discussion rules, your discussion privileges will be revoked. If you follow the discussion rules, they will not.
Libertas
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I did what DPR told me to do, to tell SR Support to lift the ban. If SR Support saw that i had a 100 day ban, which is according to DPR a gross error then why wouldnt they hesitate to fix the error unless they intended to give me a 100 day ban in the first place?
Well now you've acknowledged that you know which account is mine and refuse to fix the problem, instead asking me to once again ask for the ban to be removed, as if i have to keep jumping through hoops to fix your mistake. If the rest of the sheep on here want to complacently let abuse of power once again trample their rights then so be it but i didnt come here to deal with yet another petty tyrant enforcing their power over me. Why dont you show the community that you arent the very thing you claim to stand against and actually APOLOGIZE and go out of your way to fix the problem your organization created. Or you can do what the courts do to drug users and trample on their rights and then tell them to go F* themselves when they demand due recompense.
If im holding my breath its because im over at atlantis where the staff dont step on their customers.
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I did what DPR told me to do, to tell SR Support to lift the ban. If SR Support saw that i had a 100 day ban, which is according to DPR a gross error then why wouldnt they hesitate to fix the error unless they intended to give me a 100 day ban in the first place?
No, DPR stated the following:
you were only meant to be suspended for 8 days if I recall was either a bug or human error. This can be corrected by contacting support. and yes it was for the vulgarity. As clearly stated on the discussion pages, they are not a free for all and you must use a polite tone.
Nowhere does it mention "to tell SR Support to lift the ban". It mentions contacting support; had you included a link to this thread there would not have been any issue with removing your discussion ban.
Well now you've acknowledged that you know which account is mine and refuse to fix the problem, instead asking me to once again ask for the ban to be removed, as if i have to keep jumping through hoops to fix your mistake. If the rest of the sheep on here want to complacently let abuse of power once again trample their rights then so be it but i didnt come here to deal with yet another petty tyrant enforcing their power over me. Why dont you show the community that you arent the very thing you claim to stand against and actually APOLOGIZE and go out of your way to fix the problem your organization created. Or you can do what the courts do to drug users and trample on their rights and then tell them to go F* themselves when they demand due recompense.
If im holding my breath its because im over at atlantis where the staff dont step on their customers.
I remember your message because of the demanding nature of it - I don't recall your username due to the volume of messages that we deal with on a daily basis, which is why I have asked you to get back in touch with SR Support to sort it out. You are not obliged to do that, of course, but if you want the discussion ban removed that is the process you will need to follow.
Libertas
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wow
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I remember your message because of the demanding nature of it - I don't recall your username due to the volume of messages that we deal with on a daily basis, which is why I have asked you to get back in touch with SR Support to sort it out. You are not obliged to do that, of course, but if you want the discussion ban removed that is the process you will need to follow.
Libertas
I asked you to apologize for this problem your organization created and you have refused.
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I remember your message because of the demanding nature of it - I don't recall your username due to the volume of messages that we deal with on a daily basis, which is why I have asked you to get back in touch with SR Support to sort it out. You are not obliged to do that, of course, but if you want the discussion ban removed that is the process you will need to follow.
Libertas
I asked you to apologize for this problem your organization created and you have refused.
Apologize? who the fuck do you think you are. You fuck up someones discussion, it clearly states use a polite tone. Then you demand your reinstated, Why don't you go and stick your head up your ass and see if it fits, ungrateful cheeky cunt.
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This is a disgrace. A complete disgrace.
The OP was not impolite whatsoever in his discussion post. Furthermore, the post was beneficial to the whole community; buyers and vendors alike benefit from his contribution, which is behavior that should be encouraged. Instead it was punished. This is a travesty and a complete disregard of our libertarian philosophy. Moreover, the staff involved and those responding in this thread are now attempting to spin the reality of the situation to rationalize their poor management of the situation. This is appalling behavior from those who have the responsibility of upholding the basic tenets of Silk Road and the philosophy on which it was founded. You would do yourself, and Silk Road, a service by acknowledging your fault in this incident, and rectifying the error graciously instead of attempting to justify your poor actions.
This stinks of hubris, the abuse of power is evident to all and it's indeed a dark day for the entire community. Most notably the staff who I've grown to respect and admire. Such a terrible shame.
Thank you for bringing this to our attention, OP.
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This is a disgrace. A complete disgrace.
The OP was not impolite whatsoever in his discussion post. Furthermore, the post was beneficial to the whole community; buyers and vendors alike benefit from his contribution, which is behavior that should be encouraged. Instead it was punished. This is a travesty and a complete disregard of our libertarian philosophy. Moreover, the staff involved and those responding in this thread are now attempting to spin the reality of the situation to rationalize their poor management of the situation. This is appalling behavior from those who have the responsibility of upholding the basic tenets of Silk Road and the philosophy on which it was founded. You would do yourself, and Silk Road, a service by acknowledging your fault in this incident, and rectifying the error graciously instead of attempting to justify your poor actions.
This stinks of hubris, the abuse of power is evident to all and it's indeed a dark day for the entire community. Most notably the staff who I've grown to respect and admire. Such a terrible shame.
Thank you for bringing this to our attention, OP.
As you can see if you read the posts above the member has been instructed to contact SR Support to have his discussion privileges reinstated. We cannot reinstate the user's discussion privileges until he provides his Silk Road username, which he has thus far neglected to provide.
Libertas
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sr is becoming too big, too mainstream, too bureaucratic.
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While it was reasonable for the OP to at least ask if they could be sent whole, the vendor's response was sensible (and polite), and with the risks a vendor faces it's entirely understandable on the latter's part. Escalating things and getting adversarial (reflecting some sort of persecution complex) damages the community. If you don't trust a vendor then don't order. I won't get into the mycology aspect but trying to identify a specimen from a dried sample and believing you could do better than an experienced vendor who identified it when it was fresh? Please.
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Clearly a genuine misunderstanding on the rectal bleeding thing, but I think DaFuck needs to cool off, swallow his pride a bit and apologize for getting a hot headed over the matter. Aggressively demanding an apology from SR support is bordering on arrogant IMO, although I suppose SR support could say that they "regret the inconvenience caused as a result of this genuine misunderstanding, and hope we can all move on", or something.
The fact that the vendor won't ship what he wants is just tough luck. Vendor doesn't supply what you want - move on and look for another vendor.
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As you can see if you read the posts above the member has been instructed to contact SR Support to have his discussion privileges reinstated. We cannot reinstate the user's discussion privileges until he provides his Silk Road username, which he has thus far neglected to provide.
That is not the problem here. The problem is that this ban was unfair in the first place and shows the discussion moderation as therefore inappropriate and rash. The ban should never have been issued in the first place IMO, and since it was in blatant error, should have been lifted by another moderator that read the discussion and saw that it was far from vulgar. The OP shouldn't need to ask to have privileges re-instated that shouldn't have been removed in the first place, and it is at least slightly concerning that they need to do so. Either we support free speech here or we don't and describing a literal medical condition is hardly inappropriate or worthy of censorship. What qualifies as vulgar needs to be clearly defined or else this rule is simply way too open to interpretation and abuse.
This said, the OP does probably need to cool off and take a step back from this situation right now - but, I can't blame them for being frustrated, as I am sure I would be too.
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As you can see if you read the posts above the member has been instructed to contact SR Support to have his discussion privileges reinstated. We cannot reinstate the user's discussion privileges until he provides his Silk Road username, which he has thus far neglected to provide.
That is not the problem here. The problem is that this ban was unfair in the first place and shows the discussion moderation as therefore inappropriate and rash. The ban should never have been issued in the first place IMO, and since it was in blatant error, should have been lifted by another moderator that read the discussion and saw that it was far from vulgar. The OP shouldn't need to ask to have privileges re-instated that shouldn't have been removed in the first place, and it is at least slightly concerning that they need to do so. Either we support free speech here or we don't and describing a literal medical condition is hardly inappropriate or worthy of censorship. What qualifies as vulgar needs to be clearly defined or else this rule is simply way too open to interpretation and abuse.
This said, the OP does probably need to cool off and take a step back from this situation right now - but, I can't blame them for being frustrated, as I am sure I would be too.
I don't mean to offend but did you read my post that you quoted? I have no idea what the OP's username is on the main site, therefore I cannot remove the discussion ban until he messages SR Support advising us of his username. He has not done that and seemingly refuses to do so now meaning that there is literally nothing that we can do here.
We unequivocally support free speech on the forums, however the vendor discussion pages are a separate issue and if you go onto any vendor's discussion page you will see that there are discussion rules that anybody posting on the discussion page must abide by.
Though I do not deal with the discussion aspect of the site I apologise to 'Da Fuck' for the error that was made, and have made every attempt to fix it as is evident from my posts above. If the member in question does not wish to contact us in order for us to fix it after having the situation explained to them that is their choice and there's nothing we can do about it. They are more than welcome to get in touch at any time.
Libertas
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I don't mean to offend but did you read my post that you quoted? I have no idea what the OP's username is on the main site, therefore I cannot remove the discussion ban until he messages SR Support advising us of his username. He has not done that and seemingly refuses to do so now meaning that there is literally nothing that we can do here.
No offense taken, and yes I did read it of course. I didn't mean that you specifically should do something, I meant the moderator or team that was dealing with the ban in the first place.
We unequivocally support free speech on the forums, however the vendor discussion pages are a separate issue and if you go onto any vendor's discussion page you will see that there are discussion rules that anybody posting on the discussion page must abide by.
Makes sense. The concern I expressed is that those rules aren't exactly clear, as obviously there are varied opinions on what qualifies as a "polite tone" or "inflammatory post". I have definitely seen some discussion posts that are certainly not polite, but I have no problem with the OP's post.
Though I do not deal with the discussion aspect of the site I apologise to 'Da Fuck' for the error that was made, and have made every attempt to fix it as is evident from my posts above. If the member in question does not wish to contact us in order for us to fix it after having the situation explained to them that is their choice and there's nothing we can do about it. They are more than welcome to get in touch at any time.
Well, your diligence and care are appreciated ;). Obviously you are far removed from the problem here, so good on you for keeping with this thread.
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After seeing this thread, I've been kind of scared to post in the discussion threads.
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Think I will stay away from discussion threads then, don't want to get banned :(
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I sent the request two days ago, why havent i been unbanned?
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I sent the request two days ago, why havent i been unbanned?
All support tickets are zeroed out regularly and no such request has been made by you. PM me your main site username and I'll look into it.
Libertas
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I sent the request two days ago, why havent i been unbanned?
I hope you get unbanned soon so that you can embark upon a campaign to expose all vendors of edibles/powdered products as poisoners. I suggest you create a thread where you can 'expose' other dirty vendors like cyanspore and any vendor who has the audacity to trust the veracity of their product. Thanks!
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I sent the request two days ago, why havent i been unbanned?
I hope you get unbanned soon so that you can embark upon a campaign to expose all vendors of edibles/powdered products as poisoners. I suggest you create a thread where you can 'expose' other dirty vendors like cyanspore and any vendor who has the audacity to trust the veracity of their product. Thanks!
He was never trying to "expose"Cyanspore as a "poisoner". I think you're missing the point.
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This guy spends 10 pounds a month and tries to fuck someones business over because he cant trust the gear? Think about people buying H and pinging it up, that shit could be dirty as hell, could be toxic, you should know there is risk involved when taking substances.
Perma ban i say, lol.
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After seeing this thread, I've been kind of scared to post in the discussion threads.
Yeah, me too! I am not getting anywhere near that thing before I feel like I have a clear understanding about what is allowed, and what is not!
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I sent the request two days ago, why havent i been unbanned?
All support tickets are zeroed out regularly and no such request has been made by you. PM me your main site username and I'll look into it.
Libertas
suck a horse cock libertas u keep giving me hoops to jump through like the sadistic bureaucratic fuck you are.
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I sent the request two days ago, why havent i been unbanned?
All support tickets are zeroed out regularly and no such request has been made by you. PM me your main site username and I'll look into it.
Libertas
suck a horse cock libertas u keep giving me hoops to jump through like the sadistic bureaucratic fuck you are.
Aren't you trying to get unbanned? I don't know how far that's going to get you in regards to getting unbanned.
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I sent the request two days ago, why havent i been unbanned?
All support tickets are zeroed out regularly and no such request has been made by you. PM me your main site username and I'll look into it.
Libertas
suck a horse cock libertas u keep giving me hoops to jump through like the sadistic bureaucratic fuck you are.
Aren't you trying to get unbanned? I don't know how far that's going to get you in regards to getting unbanned.
hes not going to unban me, hes playing fucking games.
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I sent the request two days ago, why havent i been unbanned?
All support tickets are zeroed out regularly and no such request has been made by you. PM me your main site username and I'll look into it.
Libertas
suck a horse cock libertas u keep giving me hoops to jump through like the sadistic bureaucratic fuck you are.
Aren't you trying to get unbanned? I don't know how far that's going to get you in regards to getting unbanned.
hes not going to unban me, hes playing fucking games.
LOL and you have no clue why huh... ::)
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I sent the request two days ago, why havent i been unbanned?
All support tickets are zeroed out regularly and no such request has been made by you. PM me your main site username and I'll look into it.
Libertas
suck a horse cock libertas u keep giving me hoops to jump through like the sadistic bureaucratic fuck you are.
Aren't you trying to get unbanned? I don't know how far that's going to get you in regards to getting unbanned.
hes not going to unban me, hes playing fucking games.
LOL and you have no clue why huh... ::)
god what a dumb faggot.
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All support tickets are zeroed out regularly and no such request has been made by you. PM me your main site username and I'll look into it.
Libertas
suck a horse cock libertas u keep giving me hoops to jump through like the sadistic bureaucratic fuck you are.
I have already explained that we can't do anything without your main site username - if you'd like to PM it to me we can get the situation resolved.
Libertas
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+1 Libertas for keeping your head when all around you people are losing theirs.
That dry, professional reply to being told to "suck a horse cock" really made me laugh.
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+1 Libertas for keeping your head when all around you people are losing theirs.
That dry, professional reply to being told to "suck a horse cock" really made me laugh.
Agreed.
+1 to Remediless and Libertas
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I feel for the OP, SR Staff is being extremely unreasonable and he's probably going to have to start a new account to post in discussion again. Start from scratch.
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I sent the request two days ago, why havent i been unbanned?
All support tickets are zeroed out regularly and no such request has been made by you. PM me your main site username and I'll look into it.
Libertas
suck a horse cock libertas u keep giving me hoops to jump through like the sadistic bureaucratic fuck you are.
Aren't you trying to get unbanned? I don't know how far that's going to get you in regards to getting unbanned.
hes not going to unban me, hes playing fucking games.
LOL and you have no clue why huh... ::)
god what a dumb faggot.
Well your user name on the market site is not the same as the forums because I just did a search for DaFuck and came up with 0 results so why don't you stop being an abusive little shit and do what the admin who is trying to help you has asked you to do several times now, confirm your identity on the market site and have him un-ban you, why is that so fucking hard for you to do?
I suspect following some simple instructions is less gratifying that moaning about the harsh and unfair treatment you have been subjected too, get over yourself please.
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I feel for the OP, SR Staff is being extremely unreasonable and he's probably going to have to start a new account to post in discussion again. Start from scratch.
This is a joke, right? He made a mind numbingly stupid post attacking a very reputable vendor with decades of experience in their field. There is no legitimate reason for his behavior in the first place, and even less of a reason for his continued childishness.
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I feel for the OP, SR Staff is being extremely unreasonable and he's probably going to have to start a new account to post in discussion again. Start from scratch.
This is a joke, right? He made a mind numbingly stupid post attacking a very reputable vendor with decades of experience in their field. There is no legitimate reason for his behavior in the first place, and even less of a reason for his continued childishness.
Maybe.