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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: Internal Freedom on July 05, 2013, 03:20 am
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That faggot Infowars is spamming addresses again. What the fuck is wrong with this guy?
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why hasn't his account been suspended yet?
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Different addresses this time aswell. Something about BL XTC pills.
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same info as "info wars" posted after "infowars" was deleted by SSBD yesterday.
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if some of the people whose names have been reveled have made only a few purchases from an mdma vendor, we could narrow down which vendor it was.
P.S. atlantis is a competitor site... are they possibly trying to sabotage SR? just an idea, i have no proof after all.. but it could fit the story.
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A competitor probably who wants to drive traffic to his service with spam by causing chaos here. Don't know why DPR doesn't limit posts of new accounts, nor why he doesn't pay his mods here to whitelist accounts instead of just letting bots spam to 50 posts and then flood the board.
DPR needs to learn from Russian and CIS carding forums. Russians would split income to pay permanent mods to do 24/hr watch on the site whitelisting members, responding to support, banning idiots and suppressing spam. Since this is Tor, and you can't ban by IP what DPR should be doing is slow banning usernames, that super annoying denial of service method a lot of sites use now. Instead of an outright "You are banned for being a fucktard" message you get 502/503 error messages, pages take forever to load, and basically you are denied access to the site but not outright told to go fuck yourself, that way idiots usually just give up, or bots get lost in the dark pit of shitposting denial of service hell. This is easy to implement too
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not a bot :)
In that case...
Burn in hell
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i'd apply for that job you spoke of :)
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hey info wars I bet your address is:
Dick Cheyne's penis
6969 gay st
Bungholio New Jersey
96696
Btw, I cross referenced one of these addresses on google with the last name of the person mentioned, and someone by that last name WAS living there apparantly! These addresses are real. Not sure if u guys were aware yet
P.S: Alex jones is retarded
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another solution: crowdsourced oversight. allow the users of SR to suspend an account. would need whitelisted accounts to prevent people from making spam accounts to misuse their power. if more than, say an arbitrary number of 10 whitelisted accounts, votes within a 10 minute period to "mute" a user.. said user's account will be disabled.
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Many people made suggestions about limiting spam 6-8 months ago, such as X number of posts in 10 minutes or 60 minutes, having to wait 7 days before getting out of the Newbie forum, etc. All ignored. The 50 post rule to get out of Newbie jail is the only thing that has been implemented, and infowars got 66 posts in 14 minutes tonight. That's a fail on many levels.
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another solution: crowdsourced oversight. allow the users of SR to suspend an account. would need whitelisted accounts to prevent people from making spam accounts to misuse their power. if more than, say an arbitrary number of 10 whitelisted accounts, votes within a 10 minute period to "mute" a user.. said user's account will be disabled.
Unfortunately that is not a feature of SMF. It would be very nice though. We would even be able to mute Joolz!
There's no capability of allowing bans (perhaps temporary until an Admin reviews it) based on number of spam reports? I don't know much about SMF, is it open-source? If so, couldn't it be implemented?
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the silence feature used to be good on IRC
LOL
or to Akill the nick and watch it keep tryin to get back on the servers LOL
those were fun days LOL
put me to work ;)
i'll do it for 1.25 bitcoins per week and guarantee i am here like 18 hours a day :P
oh...and reese's pieces i would need a bag of those to :P
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Many people made suggestions about limiting spam 6-8 months ago, such as X number of posts in 10 minutes or 60 minutes, having to wait 7 days before getting out of the Newbie forum, etc. All ignored. The 50 post rule to get out of Newbie jail is the only thing that has been implemented, and infowars got 66 posts in 14 minutes tonight. That's a fail on many levels.
He had over 219 posts the last time I saw his post count before the account was deleted...
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it's pretty easy to implement a slow ban in SMF, plenty of other sites do. If X user makes <Y posts in >Z time period slow ban them with timeout and 503 errors. Or just let them watch the loading icon spin until eternity with nothing happening but whitespace.
Then find some mods and pay them an actual real wage to monitor the board, since this is technically an extension of the SR "brand" you'd think you would want to have some sort of control over it.
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Did you guy's also notice captcha is gone? SMF = broken
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Did you guy's also notice captcha is gone? SMF = broken
Lol you reached a hundred posts! ;D
You no longer have a captcha after a hundred posts.
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comsec: that's because you got past 100 posts. Congratulations, you graduated! :)
Even better is a hellban. If someone posts too often or in a certain pattern, their posts become invisible to regular users, but they don't know it. Makes them waste a lot of time.
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Did you guy's also notice captcha is gone? SMF = broken
Lol you reached a hundred posts! ;D
You no longer have a captcha after a hundred posts.
I had the intuition to realize this on my own, I feel special now. Free pot cookies anybody?
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it's pretty easy to implement a slow ban in SMF, plenty of other sites do. If X user makes <Y posts in >Z time period slow ban them with timeout and 503 errors. Or just let them watch the loading icon spin until eternity with nothing happening but whitespace.
Then find some mods and pay them an actual real wage to monitor the board, since this is technically an extension of the SR "brand" you'd think you would want to have some sort of control over it.
Moderators on here get paid slightly less than a full time minimum wage job.
That's crazy, maybe DPR isn't making nearly as much as we think, though I would assume he is clearing at least 3 million per month in profit after paying for all his hosting.
that's because you got past 100 posts
lol, derp
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DPR needs to learn from Russian and CIS carding forums. Russians would split income to pay permanent mods to do 24/hr watch on the site whitelisting members, responding to support, banning idiots and suppressing spam. Since this is Tor, and you can't ban by IP what DPR should be doing is slow banning usernames, that super annoying denial of service method a lot of sites use now. Instead of an outright "You are banned for being a fucktard" message you get 502/503 error messages, pages take forever to load, and basically you are denied access to the site but not outright told to go fuck yourself, that way idiots usually just give up, or bots get lost in the dark pit of shitposting denial of service hell. This is easy to implement too
+1 and yes! It's v easy. The code for that feature in SMF (Torture Trolls) looks like this:
// list of users to be tortured
$bad_users = array(2209,2225,1033);
if( in_array($context['user']['id'], $bad_users) ){
$random_chance = rand(1,100);
// adjust the '25' to increase/decrease the "problem" occurrence rate
if($random_chance > 25){
$random_action = rand(1,8);
/* // torture user methods
1) 10 sec delay
2) 20 sec delay
3) 45 sec delay
4) page full of garbage chars
5) send to random page
6) send to search page
7) send to logout page
8) show database error message
*/
if($random_action == "1"){sleep(10);}
if($random_action == "2"){sleep(15);}
if($random_action == "3"){sleep(30);}
if($random_action == "4"){
sleep(1);
for($i=1; $i<10000; $i++){
// use chars 32 ~ 254
$rand_char = chr(round(rand(32, 254)));
print $rand_char;
}
exit;
}
if($random_action == "5"){
$random_page = round(rand(1, 1000));
header("Location: /forum/index.php?topic=$random_page");
exit;
}
if($random_action == "6"){
header("Location: /forum/index.php?action=search");
exit;
}
if($random_action == "7"){
header("Location: /forum/index.php?action=logout");
exit;
}
if($random_action == "8"){
print "<html><body bgcolor=#ffffaa>Database over capacity - please wait a few moments and try again.</body></html>";
exit;
}
}
}
All you need to do is put it at the top of the theme's 'index.template.php' page. Maybe one of the admins could implement it without too much trouble? (And then delete this post & comsecs suggestion so future trolls won't get suspicious when the site starts crapping out...)
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Did you guy's also notice captcha is gone? SMF = broken
Er, no. You're just a full member. Congrats! ;D
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Moderators on here get paid slightly less than a full time minimum wage job.
You must be joking... :o
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Some of these names have been ripped from old posts on Spam.com(I used a search engine through TOR and looked up a couple.) which were subsequently deleted, post was from APRIL some crap about pakistanis, I'm not going into the details, but if you search the boston, MA, one that came up, it was in there. There were also links to topix drug-boards and other shit on there, so we know that whoever it is, is a fucking lowlife troll, without any pertinent information. They would have posted more than 13 addresses if they had them. I don't know where they got this list- it could have been evidence in a court case against a vendor, used in a legal brief(accessible to anyone.) Just thought that might help put this into perspective. I trust my vendors on SR 99.99999%, but I'm pretty careful about where I stick my address.
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Hm probably rater. Anybody remember him?
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Moderators on here get paid slightly less than a full time minimum wage job.
You must be joking... :o
One would hope so!! ???
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So right now, a mod is having to go through and delete the 220 posts one-by-one? Is there no button to zap/invisiblise all of a poster's posts at once?
I notice the BTC spam has started again now.
And I understood all Mod positions were gratis. Has that changed recently?
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Moderators on here get paid slightly less than a full time minimum wage job.
You must be joking... :o
Right. Some of us would pay good money for the honor of modding on SR.
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What Jack N Hoff is posting regarding moderator wages and requirements etc. is being pulled completely out of the air. Needless to say, DPR ensures that moderators receive a satisfactory amount of remuneration for the job that they do.
Libertas
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What Jack N Hoff is posting regarding moderator wages and requirements etc. is being pulled completely out of the air. Needless to say, DPR ensures that moderators receive a satisfactory amount of remuneration for the job that they do.
Libertas
No it's not. Do you want me to say the exact wage? I got my information straight from the horses mouth.
I just PMed you the exact pay. Now stop talking out of your ass Libby. ::)
The information in your PM is incorrect. I would suggest that you take your own advice from the latter part of your post above.
Libertas
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If they are doing the equivalent of a full time job then then why shouldn't they get a full time wage?
I remember Scout once saying they spent a lot of time on here as a moderator, at least 8 hours a day but it might have been more.
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If they are doing the equivalent of a full time job then then why shouldn't they get a full time wage?
I see no problem with it. :)
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What Jack N Hoff is posting regarding moderator wages and requirements etc. is being pulled completely out of the air. Needless to say, DPR ensures that moderators receive a satisfactory amount of remuneration for the job that they do.
Libertas
No it's not. Do you want me to say the exact wage? I got my information straight from the horses mouth.
I just PMed you the exact pay. Now stop talking out of your ass Libby. ::)
The information in your PM is incorrect. I would suggest that you take your own advice from the latter part of your post above.
Libertas
You're completely full of shit Libertas. I didn't disclose the exact amount publicly, which I don't see an issue with regardless, so why are you lying about it? ???
I am not going to engage in a war of words with you on the forums, Jack N Hoff. The information you put forth regarding pay was incorrect.
Libertas
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With all of this conversation about modding, if anyone needs a Mod, I have a metric shit-ton of time/energy that I can put forth, 24/hr day, have extensive knowledge of 'the business', decent computer skills, html, javascript, etc. and will work for satoshis(or xanax/adderall.)
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Here is a better solution.
Why not implement some code into the forums that basically censors posts if it includes addresses?
It's not hard to compile a database of zip codes. If a post contains a zip code and a state abbreviation, for example, it gets hidden from public view.
There should be no reason why any post here needs to have an address anyway, right?
Furthermore, let the poster see the post from their account but hide it from everyone else. That way the spammer thinks they are still getting their post seen but in reality it's hidden from everyone, and they won't try to work around it.
I realize this is a bit of work but I think SR would agree it needs to be dealt with better than via a whack-a-mole approach.
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That jackass is at it again :o
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And posting from a Guest account at that. How is this possible? I thought a Guest designation is what happens to your posts after your account has been deleted, but your posts have not.
Wtf? :o
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and once again "infowars" appears immediately after the bitcoin spammer stops.
as for posting - their account was deleted before their posts were, which is why it says "Guest" ...
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IDK, the whole thing is strange to me.
infowars posted addresses in a thread where I had first noticed his posts and said something about it. then the infowars post got deleted and my post was just dangling there out of context. then, just after I wrote something repling to someone who misunderstood my out-of-context post (a day or so later), infowars posted more addresses in that same thread and not any others. By the time I noticed, I also saw it was posted as a Guest. (still there as of now).
Not that much time passed between when I posted my reply and when i saw the infowars Guest post. I guess its possible they deleted the account and haven't gotten to deleting the post with the addresses in question yet since they have to delete them 1 by 1.
Its just weird ???
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Were they fresh names/addresses tonight?
Edit: Nevermind, the posts are still up. Some of the names tonight are the same as past nights. Some might be new...
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Different from the 1st round of posts. I missed the 2nd round so I don't know if they're the same or not
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Update:
Went back and checked the times. My post was at 6:10. infowars post at 6:27. I noticed infowars post 6:28 or slightly before, because there are 2 infowars posts back to back. one 6:27 and one 6:28. When I 1st noticed, there was only 1 post. And it was from a Guest account.
So how the hell is this shit posted as a Guest?? infowars account couln't have been deleted right after the 1st post because he made another one. Also as a Guest
WTF is going on? ???
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http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?reportsent;topic=179276.msg1309690#msg1309690
wtf
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Update:
Went back and checked the times. My post was at 6:10. infowars post at 6:27. I noticed infowars post 6:28 or slightly before, because there are 2 infowars posts back to back. one 6:27 and one 6:28. When I 1st noticed, there was only 1 post. And it was from a Guest account.
So how the hell is this shit posted as a Guest?? infowars account couln't have been deleted right after the 1st post because he made another one. Also as a Guest
WTF is going on? ???
Here's what I think is happening here...One of the moderators went rogue and is threatening the entire SR club; their owners, sellers, buyers...
I myself would like to know how one can create a such account like infowars...seems like he has god mode turned on. This is an obvious sign that its from top above when it comes to site privileges. Like I mentioned in my other posts. SR is coming to an end and they know it due to recent changes in coin buying and are starting to kill each other over it...PATHETIC
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Update:
Went back and checked the times. My post was at 6:10. infowars post at 6:27. I noticed infowars post 6:28 or slightly before, because there are 2 infowars posts back to back. one 6:27 and one 6:28. When I 1st noticed, there was only 1 post. And it was from a Guest account.
So how the hell is this shit posted as a Guest?? infowars account couln't have been deleted right after the 1st post because he made another one. Also as a Guest
WTF is going on? ???
Here's what I think is happening here...One of the moderators went rogue and is threatening the entire SR club; their owners, sellers, buyers...
I myself would like to know how one can create a such account like infowars...seems like he has god mode turned on. This is an obvious sign that its from top above when it comes to site privileges. Like I mentioned in my other posts. SR is coming to an end and they know it due to recent changes in coin buying and are starting to kill each other over it...PATHETIC
lol. nice FUD there. none of the moderators went rogue, and there were no threats involved with "infowars".
what happens is infowars registers the infowars account, spams his trolling dickishness, and one of the moderators/admins deletes the account without deleting the posts/topics along with it -- hence the "Guest" status you see. that means the account no longer exists actively, but then they have to go through and delete each individual post.
it's not a conspiracy.
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**AGAIN** HERE IS A POTENTIAL SOLUTION IF ANYONE WOULD BOTHER TO LISTEN, stop bitching and start dealing with the problem.
Implement some code into the forums that basically censors posts if it includes addresses. How do you detect addresses? Well firstly, it's not hard to compile a database of zip codes. If a post contains a zip code and a state abbreviation, for example, it's 99.9% chance there's an address. And there should be no reason why any post here needs to have an address in it.
Furthermore, let the poster see the post from their account but hide it from everyone else. That way the spammer thinks they are still getting their post made but in reality it's hidden from everyone. This reduces the likelihood they would try to work around it. You essentially mute them without them knowing it.
I realize this is a bit of work but I think SR would agree it needs to be dealt with better than via a whack-a-mole approach.
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@bluedev1 -
Do you know of any SMF scripts or mods that allow this? I don't think the software has a ghost posting / hellban option, so the second point would take some coding. I know there's a banned word feature, but not one that blocks only things formatted in a certain way. Maybe it wouldn't be that hard to modify tho.
I just don't that sort of feature would get at the real issue tho. It wouldn't stop someone from posting any names/addresses somewhere outside SR and just announcing that on the forum. I think a standard spam-block (those that automatically lock the accounts of users who's activity is spammy - ie. posting the same or nearly the same content across different boards in a short amount of time) would be just as effective & would help with other forms of spam too.