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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: stenak on June 26, 2013, 04:30 pm
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escrow for me was useless. I told SR Support, fraud and threats of the seller (SuperTrips), and I had proof-that. SR Support however refused to help me. and i was right. and many people are faced with the same problem so far.I have not received any compensation.
proof
http://radikal.ua/data/upload/49112/fb1a9/28b47629a0.png
http://radikal.ua/data/upload/49112/fb1a9/8618b17e5c.png
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I'd like to see this 'proof', maybe not publicly.
Often people think that just vague proof that could imply something is enough, do you have real physical proof of everything, which they in return can verify is real or not?
Of course, you could be right as well. Guess I'll never know.
Well, have a nice day anyways, forgot what we we're talking about.
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I don't know the details, but I'm going to guess a common 'complaint' where the buyer swears s/he is right is where the buyer claims s/he never received the product, while the vendor has a DCN showing it was delivered.
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As in the title.
Send me your encrypted address, I guarantee to reship a handkerchief.
Seriously, OP, without any specifics you won't even get moral support.
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I have a picture where the seller is threatening me and says that the product is indeed a fake. it's all there in the correspondence.
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As in the title.
Send me your encrypted address, I guarantee to reship a handkerchief.
Seriously, OP, without any specifics you won't even get moral support.
This.
What's with all these two sentence threads. Are people too lazy to even write a decent paragraph to defend themselves or ask for help?
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Proof
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you all asking proof for what?
he hardly even explained the situation, what he bought, what he got etc etc
OP you want us to take you seriously so act up
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http://radikal.ua/data/upload/49112/fb1a9/28b47629a0.png
http://radikal.ua/data/upload/49112/fb1a9/8618b17e5c.png
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That's some tough shit dude. I wouldn't want to be in that position.
Best of luck.
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So. You accuse a vendor of selling fake drugs. You don't like the drugs, you don't think they're what you paid for.
The vendor offers you 33% refund (not bad IMO)
You then promise never to tell a soul if the vendor just owns up to the fact that he sold something under a false label.
I can see where you are coming from, but you are never going to get a top vendor, or any vendor worth their salt, to admit they are selling anything other than what they state they are selling. It is incredibly naive of you to think otherwise, even if you did promise.
As far as I can see, vendors threatening and blackmailing buyers with knowledge of their addresses etc is old hat and an easy way to pressure a buyer into putting 5/5 feedback. Yes it is wrong, and yes I think SR should do something about it but in reality what can they do? They have a top vendor vs you, a single Silk Road punter.
You say escrow was useless. Did you FE? Did you finalise before testing the product? If so more fool you. Escrow does work if used properly.
I feel for you man, it's horrible thinking you have been ripped off, however I would accept the 33% and learn a lesson. Never finalise until you are happy with your product.
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he did not want to return the 33%. I NO FE.
speak simple English. so I can accurately translate what are you babbling
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Well, one thing's for sure and that's that I'm never using SuperTrips. I had actually contemplated buying from them previously. The threat may or may not be real (I'm not doubting you stenak, I'm just saying there's no way to prove that that was the note sent by ST), but they seem to have a very unprofessional and careless demeanor towards the health and safety of their customers.
Thank you stenak for bringing this out in public despite the hostility you face by doing so!
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god damn (excuse my language) but this shit is fucked up... Why aren't people surprised/outraged at this??? Selling false advertised drugs then threatening the person that calls you out for it??? Just a reminder that the people we buy from ARE drug dealers, but still.... :-\ sorry this shit happened to you man
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Other than the threat I do not see admission of any wrong doing by ST and ST is right, fent is much more exp than heroin, why would he use it to cut? The threats are not ok, but no one can confirm is it is real. Sounds to me like support made the right call.
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god damn (excuse my language) but this shit is fucked up... Why aren't people surprised/outraged at this??? Selling false advertised drugs then threatening the person that calls you out for it??? Just a reminder that the people we buy from ARE drug dealers, but still.... :-\ sorry this shit happened to you man
I agree! Once stenak provided proof and showed the nonchalant way in which the vendor essentially communicated their "most of my customers are too dumb to realize, so I don't care" approach no one really appeared to even flinch. I think it is of utmost importance that we all work together to make sure this place is safe for everyone, as that is the only way we can keep the road as safe as possible. We must hold irresponsible vendors accountable for their actions, and I applaud stenak for bringing this information out there despite being new to the community.
I'm also sorry this happened to you, stenak, and wish you better success in the future.
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Other than the threat I do not see admission of any wrong doing by ST and ST is right, fent is much more exp than heroin, why would he use it to cut? The threats are not ok, but no one can confirm is it is real. Sounds to me like support made the right call.
What of the fact that he neglects to ever even claim stenak is wrong (he just disagrees that the drug in question is Fentanyl), and even admits that stenak knows what he is talking about in the last message? I do think we only have one side of the story though, and it would be nice if SuperTrips could show up here and give their side of the story too.
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Other than the threat I do not see admission of any wrong doing by ST and ST is right, fent is much more exp than heroin, why would he use it to cut? The threats are not ok, but no one can confirm is it is real. Sounds to me like support made the right call.
believe me I understand where the real heroin and where not. http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/4f458ab27b that's how much this product $87.55. I gave him ST $ 130
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People have been discussing this supposed H for the past couple months over in the Heroin Vendors thread. Not one soul who has been posting in there in that time would consider buying that stuff.
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he did not want to return the 33%. I NO FE.
speak simple English. so I can accurately translate what are you babbling
You wrote in English, so I replied in English. I assure you I am not babbling. If you have trouble reading English because it is not your first language then you simply have to ask me to write more simply, not criticize.
It's good you did not FE.
However you should not have finalised at all before you tested the product. If you had not paid him the second you opened your mail you would still have your "fake" #4 and your money in escrow.
That is how escrow works.
Do not finalise until you are happy with your product. That means after you have tested it with a kit and/or taken some to check quality.
Finalising is FINAL and shows you are happy with your product. You finalised then you moaned about the product, hence no support from SR and little sympathy from Supertrips.
Understand?
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I HOPE YOU LIVE IN us OR A COUNTRY WHERE IF SOMEONE KNOWS YOUR ADDRESS AND WANTS TO FUCK WITH YOU LIKE THAT YOU CAN JUST SHOOT THEM IN THE FACE AS THEY BARGE INTO THE HOUSE! ALSO AS A COMMUNITY WE MUST PUT AN END TO THIS SHIT NOT JUST THE THREATS THE FAKE DOPE THIS IS WHY I NEVER EVEN BAUGHT DOPE ON SR IT NEVER BEEN GOOD IT NEVER WILL BE! (IM IN/NEAR NYC WE GET GREAT SHIT FOR CHEAP SO THAT COULD BE WHY) BUT STILL MUST PUT THESE GUYS OUTA BUSSINESS.
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Woooow. You got some balls my friend. This is huge. 1% vendor ST, threatening you? I'm glad I pushed you a little earlier on, that eventually others joined in doing the same. And that you obviously:
1. know your shit
2. are well hung. I mean metaphorically.
This is big Sternak.
What we have:
- tentative intimidation, using your address as mean of leverage
- extortion, of good feedback and silence for a lousy refund
- admitting knowingly distributing a different subpar and potentially lethal product
Which we must unfortunate read between the lines...
I read through the sellers guide, the only thing listed under "things to avoid" is saving customer addresses. Which he doesn't confess to directly.
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That's some tough shit dude. I wouldn't want to be in that position.
Best of luck.
I'm sure Sternak already feels better and warmly thanks you for those kind and moving words of support. He winkles at you, as you turn around as soon the heat turns up.
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So. You accuse a vendor of selling fake drugs. You don't like the drugs, you don't think they're what you paid for.
Fenytanyl is an opioid, too, but which is a bitch to dose correctly and can have disastrous consequences on health, the risk of ODing is exponential when compared to heroin. So one must rephrase that into Sternak accuses ST selling a different product known for it's toxicity cut with lactose, he doesn't think he got what he paid for.
I never bought or investigated heroin before, I happen to know, because I shut up someone with the exact same claim regarding the same vendor and product. Btw, I will apologize and edit my post over there later on. It doesn't compare at all to getting weak ass coke. It would be as getting coke cut with glass particle.
The vendor offers you 33% refund (not bad IMO)
If you consider he knows he sent toxic junk, the offer is utter BS. ST posted a deceptive listing which he doesn't intent to pull and deceived hundreds already.
You then promise never to tell a soul if the vendor just owns up to the fact that he sold something under a false label.
I can see where you are coming from, but you are never going to get a top vendor, or any vendor worth their salt, to admit they are selling anything other than what they state they are selling. It is incredibly naive of you to think otherwise, even if you did promise.
I totally second you on that.
As far as I can see, vendors threatening and blackmailing buyers with knowledge of their addresses etc is old hat and an easy way to pressure a buyer into putting 5/5 feedback. Yes it is wrong, and yes I think SR should do something about it but in reality what can they do? They have a top vendor vs you, a single Silk Road punter.
ST is silkroads golden goose. Top 1%, there is no concrete evidence whether he kept that address or not. It is "just" a threat. They have a concession ST deliberately sells a different product, but that not in the category "things to avoid". They won't do shit and continue to cash in, as usual. They would take immediate action if he did sell that junk out of escrow though, as it happened to Frank Mathews. The greatest wrongdoing of a vendor is not to provide the cut. As stated above, he is not a lone punter. In the other thread the OP claimed he tested the h, and it turned out to be negative to that substance.
You say escrow was useless. Did you FE? Did you finalise before testing the product? If so more fool you. Escrow does work if used properly.
I feel for you man, it's horrible thinking you have been ripped off, however I would accept the 33% and learn a lesson. Never finalise until you are happy with your product.
I second that too. Stay strong Sternak.
Still wether you get 33% or nothing, is the same to me. You should get 100%, we all know it.
And it's not about Sternak. It's about the other guy who got fucked by ST, the hundreds he conceded having fucked, the hundreds getting fucked now, the ones to come. And the ones not even buying from supertrips, you pakchoi23 me. You catch the drift.
Maybe you could search the forums about that, regroup and share evidence?
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god damn (excuse my language) but this shit is fucked up... Why aren't people surprised/outraged at this??? Selling false advertised drugs then threatening the person that calls you out for it??? Just a reminder that the people we buy from ARE drug dealers, but still.... :-\ sorry this shit happened to you man
This.
You should add: in complete knowledge and with approval of SR. This is disgusting. I realize this is not amazon, but that?
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Other than the threat I do not see admission of any wrong doing by ST and ST is right, fent is much more exp than heroin, why would he use it to cut? The threats are not ok, but no one can confirm is it is real. Sounds to me like support made the right call.
He says "you might be the only Heroin user out of hundreds of people who knows the real stuff! good job"
what does this sound like to you?
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Hopefully you didn't spend too much (have only scanned the thread, apologies if you specified)
Maybe give another vendor a try?
Be Good.
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People have been discussing this supposed H for the past couple months over in the Heroin Vendors thread. Not one soul who has been posting in there in that time would consider buying that stuff.
Thanks for clarifying that
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I'd like to see this 'proof', maybe not publicly.
Often people think that just vague proof that could imply something is enough, do you have real physical proof of everything, which they in return can verify is real or not?
Of course, you could be right as well. Guess I'll never know.
Well, have a nice day anyways, forgot what we we're talking about.
yo g i only read up to here but im sure account history is hard proof right there. if not im sure you got messages and when they were sent that might help more than u know flood DPr n Staff with all evidence it might be more significant than u think. Fuck thieves their Number 2's in life cut them out. Dpr n staff are dealing with a boat load of them. theyll respond lil homie Dpr n Staff are here to help patience lil g i hope you get your dilemma resolved. Peace n love
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Yeah man, I'd never order from SuperTrips. If you look through the reviews carefully, even though people are leaving 5/5 they explain how they were unsatisfied with the customer service and shipping times etc. etc....
He is a pro selective scammer. He obviously blackmails his customers as well. It's a shame that SR is allowing this type of conduct to go on. Sooner or later some real shit is going to go down if SR doesn't step up it's game.
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The thread I mentioned.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=177203.msg1276915#msg1276915
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he did not want to return the 33%. I NO FE.
speak simple English. so I can accurately translate what are you babbling
You wrote in English, so I replied in English. I assure you I am not babbling. If you have trouble reading English because it is not your first language then you simply have to ask me to write more simply, not criticize.
It's good you did not FE.
However you should not have finalised at all before you tested the product. If you had not paid him the second you opened your mail you would still have your "fake" #4 and your money in escrow.
That is how escrow works.
Do not finalise until you are happy with your product. That means after you have tested it with a kit and/or taken some to check quality.
Finalising is FINAL and shows you are happy with your product. You finalised then you moaned about the product, hence no support from SR and little sympathy from Supertrips.
Understand?
decision to give money to the seller took the administration sr
Transaction resolved by Silk Road staff
I spoke about the issue of administration but they have decided in favor of the seller.
return of 0% is the administration's decision SR.
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Quite a sad situation to see, I'm very sorry for your loss but you've steered me away from ever ordering from ST and I'm sure a lot of others. Disgusting abuse of vendor power
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yeah man, hope your next order will make it to you!
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Other than the threat I do not see admission of any wrong doing by ST and ST is right, fent is much more exp than heroin, why would he use it to cut? The threats are not ok, but no one can confirm is it is real. Sounds to me like support made the right call.
He says "you might be the only Heroin user out of hundreds of people who knows the real stuff! good job"
what does this sound like to you?
It sounds like sarcasm.
he did not want to return the 33%. I NO FE.
speak simple English. so I can accurately translate what are you babbling
You wrote in English, so I replied in English. I assure you I am not babbling. If you have trouble reading English because it is not your first language then you simply have to ask me to write more simply, not criticize.
It's good you did not FE.
However you should not have finalised at all before you tested the product. If you had not paid him the second you opened your mail you would still have your "fake" #4 and your money in escrow.
That is how escrow works.
Do not finalise until you are happy with your product. That means after you have tested it with a kit and/or taken some to check quality.
Finalising is FINAL and shows you are happy with your product. You finalised then you moaned about the product, hence no support from SR and little sympathy from Supertrips.
Understand?
decision to give money to the seller took the administration sr
Transaction resolved by Silk Road staff
I spoke about the issue of administration but they have decided in favor of the seller.
return of 0% is the administration's decision SR.
Ok I see. Tough luck. Maybe you should send the drugs to a lab to get tested. That way you can 100% clear your name.
From the SR messages you posted though, I can see why SR didn't refund you anything. There is no proof of blackmail, and a 33% refund was offered.
These big dogs (top vendors) know what they're doing. You have to have the right tools to deal with them. Promising to never tell if they just own up to selling fake drugs isn't going to work. It's the way of drug dealers and the way of the world.
SR is good but it isn't perfect.
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So. You accuse a ve ndor of selling fake drugs. You don't like the drugs, you don't think they're what you paid for.
The vendor offers you 33% refund (not bad IMO)
You then promise never to tell a soul if the vendor just owns up to the fact that he sold something under a false label.
I can see where you are coming from, but you are never going to get a top vendor, or any vendor worth their salt, to admit they are selling anything other than what they state they are selling. It is incredibly naive of you to think otherwise, even if you did promise.
As far as I can see, vendors threatening and blackmailing buyers with knowledge of their addresses etc is old hat and an easy way to pressure a buyer into putting 5/5 feedback. Yes it is wrong, and yes I think SR should do something about it but in reality what can they do? They have a top vendor vs you, a single Silk Road punter.
You say escrow was useless. Did you FE? Did you finalise before testing the product? If so more fool you. Escrow does work if used properly.
I feel for you man, it's horrible thinking you have been ripped off, however I would accept the 33% and learn a lesson. Never finalise until you are happy with your product.
iagree this bg has wisdom, but 'never finalise is bold to say and w happy or not I guess it depends. IMMA START A TOPIC about finalizing sorry I'm not liking the fact I will state what is a fact and will only glanced over.... yall have a blessed night. http://db.tt/fP9vBSSE
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Wow, this is sad... Here people are, trying to create a community, a place where you actually get what you're paying for, and then a vendor does this? Next time I order, I'll wait until the product is tested to press FE and leave a comment. Maybe all of the good feedback of my vendors is done this way? You'll never know...
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How many days is it acceptable to wait, having received the product, before finalizing? I mean, say you don't want to try it out for a couple of days, isn't it impolite to jus leave the dealer waiting for confirmation that it has arrived?
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Listen, your vendor has provided a tracking number to SR admin, therefore it was sent, hence you wont get any sympathy.
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So. You accuse a ve ndor of selling fake drugs. You don't like the drugs, you don't think they're what you paid for.
The vendor offers you 33% refund (not bad IMO)
You then promise never to tell a soul if the vendor just owns up to the fact that he sold something under a false label.
I can see where you are coming from, but you are never going to get a top vendor, or any vendor worth their salt, to admit they are selling anything other than what they state they are selling. It is incredibly naive of you to think otherwise, even if you did promise.
As far as I can see, vendors threatening and blackmailing buyers with knowledge of their addresses etc is old hat and an easy way to pressure a buyer into putting 5/5 feedback. Yes it is wrong, and yes I think SR should do something about it but in reality what can they do? They have a top vendor vs you, a single Silk Road punter.
You say escrow was useless. Did you FE? Did you finalise before testing the product? If so more fool you. Escrow does work if used properly.
I feel for you man, it's horrible thinking you have been ripped off, however I would accept the 33% and learn a lesson. Never finalise until you are happy with your product.
iagree this bg has wisdom, but 'never finalise is bold to say and w happy or not I guess it depends. IMMA START A TOPIC about finalizing sorry I'm not liking the fact I will state what is a fact and will only glanced over.... yall have a blessed night. http://db.tt/fP9vBSSE
He didn't. He said that at least once each page of the tread. The refund was denied by Sr. Even though he provide screenshots with rather shocking content. Your welcome to read the thread if your interested.
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How many days is it acceptable to wait, having received the product, before finalizing? I mean, say you don't want to try it out for a couple of days, isn't it impolite to jus leave the dealer waiting for confirmation that it has arrived?
Dunno why you ask about that here, in the first place but since you made it here I'd suggest you message the vendor and tell him exactly that, adding your entitled to and that he will get his funds the day you plan to sample, provided the product matches the description.
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Ok I see. Tough luck. Maybe you should send the drugs to a lab to get tested. That way you can 100% clear your name.
but what I smeared my name? for the fact that I told the truth?
dear pakchoi23! I myself did heroin from opium (acetylation reaction) (heroin third cleaning) and I know all its properties, why should I lab? just trust me I know very well where heroin is and where it is completely not. SuperTrips sold me shit - 0% heroin. derivatives of fentanyl is very dangerous. this shit can kill you if you think it's heroin and accept the usual dose. my post on the forum could save someone life. We have to help each other.
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I was right. Another man was deceived by the seller Super Trips .http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=177203.0
I was very disappointed the administration SR. and protection of clients (escrow)
p.s
Thanks to all the people for their understanding and empathy.
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I was very disappointed the administration SR. and protection of clients (escrow)
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Thanks to all the people for their understanding and empathy.
I feel you Stenak.
It sucks loosing $, but that's not what's irritating here. What sucks is that your claims are legit, you know your shit (as in synthesizing it yourself), ST admits it, admits scamming hundreds, there are others claiming the exact same thing for a couple of months across the forums (same product received).
And it's not like getting shit quality weed for example. You'll not get as high as you wanted, the taste sucks and it burns your throat a little, no. He sells some really nasty and dangerous shit here, yet refund claims are made individually.
And ST knows how to play the system:
- threats made in privnote = not SR = not legit.
- surely as the threatening happens out of SR, the fear for retaliation feels less legit? Screenshots? Doesn't prove shit. And I agree they can be faked.
- 5/5 feedback + blank comments extorted in favor of a 30% refund getting poison at your door. And you should deem yourself happy about it?
And the system plays along..
Chew on it. Lesson learned, never FE. Wait, what?
This thread started as the usual same old same old, but turned out intense.
I would + 1 (almost) everybody, but unfortunately can't.
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I was right. Another man was deceived by the seller Super Trips .http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=177203.0
I was very disappointed the administration SR. and protection of clients (escrow)
p.s
Thanks to all the people for their understanding and empathy.
Here: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=177203.msg1276915#msg1276915 (already linked)
No proof...
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What a crappy situation. If you have a new account I would just start over. Not going to get easier from here moving forward with that account. i know you were doing your best, but sometimes these things happen. So sorry to hear!
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I feel for you, but in all honesty, what do you expect? If any idiot junky could just log into SR and claim their product was crap and get a full refund, do you actually think this site would work? No it wouldn't. This is the internet, whether it is a drug dealer or a nerd on a WoW forum, if you call them out on something or try to create confrontation, they're going to respond in a similar way as ST did. I've sold stuff to people and I know for a fact it was legit, yet they claimed it was fake. Do you think they got any sympathy from me? hell no, I don't play your junky fucking games, gtfo and buy from someone else then. It is just how the drug trade game works, and as a dealer or vendor, you have to be the aggressor or you get exploited, simple as that.
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What a crappy situation. If you have a new account I would just start over. Not going to get easier from here moving forward with that account. i know you were doing your best, but sometimes these things happen. So sorry to hear!
Who do you mean, would need to start over?
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This should be posted in the rumor section. only newbies are on this page.
Fuck supertrips. this post pissed me off. the threats, the deception, the arrogance. And this is not the first time i'm hearing of this ass clowns fake dope.
If SR support wont help him, as a community we should. report his page with a link to this page and say you are outraged.
second, BOYCOTT SuperTrips! And any domestic reseller he uses.
The the OP, Good job!
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The the OP, Good job!
Give him some karma already ;)
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The the OP, Good job!
Give him some karma already ;)
i did already. i was the 1st one
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http://radikal.ua/data/upload/49112/fb1a9/8618b17e5c.png
Shitty but he's a high volume seller and high volume sellers can break the rules as we've seen over and over around here.
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im just curious if escrow even played a part in this XD
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Report him and post your story plus the pictures in that thread : http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=3520.0
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It seems he has already reported the vendor but SR support did nothing about the issue.
This is indeed very strange giving the messages and what they say, and, personally, this bothers me much more than SuperTrip behavior.
The latter is just behavior of an idiot vendor (or his support), the former is bad behavior of STAFF of SR, and a thing as this should not be allowed to happen, no matter who the vendor is and how famous s/he is.
I would really like an admin to post about this issue (even a forum admin) so as to know what's the real matter here.
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It seems he has already reported the vendor but SR support did nothing about the issue.
This is indeed very strange giving the messages and what they say, and, personally, this bothers me much more than SuperTrip behavior.
The latter is just behavior of an idiot vendor (or his support), the former is bad behavior of STAFF of SR, and a thing as this should not be allowed to happen, no matter who the vendor is and how famous s/he is.
I would really like an admin to post about this issue (even a forum admin) so as to know what's the real matter here.
He's a high volume seller. DPR makes a good amount of money off high volume sellers. If action was taken then he would lose a decent amount of income. Take Frank Matthews for example. He was recently caught going outside of escrow and he received a ban of less than 24 hours. Another vendor was caught going outside of escrow with numerous multi thousand dollar transactions after being warned for doing it. That's just how it goes. It's A LOT more profitable to turn a blind eye. Look at it with a business perspective from DPR's point of view.
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Jack N Hoff
you're right
you are very well understood the point of this story.
UNFAIRLY
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Look at it with a business perspective from DPR's point of view.
If I have to look at it from a business perspective it does make even LESS sense. It's not that I don't understand the profit of doing such, it is just that I consider doing a thing as that counterproductive in the long run, and completely suicidal (unless your plan is to get as much money as you can and then leave the scene with neither a goodbye).
Sure, you as the staff get your share of money from scammers, fine, but if people start to understand this (it's impossible to keep something concealed for long under the sun), how much time do you think it will take before people begin to go looking elsewhere? It doesn't exist an indestructible empire (it never happened and it will never happen), and an empire that's based on market laws stands upon the legitimacy of the sames. If the reputation of the market goes sour it will take just a little moment to have the solid cement on which your palace's basis is built turn into quicksand, and when it does, everything will collapse of consequence as a domino.
I understand not wanting to actually ban a long standing vendor or banning it only on the most heavy circumstances and proofs, but the staff could at last refund the OP fully and warn the vendor (publicly if possible) that a thing as the one shown in the messages it is not admissible. Doing nothing on a so blatant break of SR rules (the market rules) is NOT a way to ensure you will have a good business and profit in the long run: it is just a very short-sighted way to earn profit, and I think everybody can understand how profitable it is to ask people to follow your lead when you are considered blind, isn't it?
Just for this I would personally like an admin (as Libertas, that's also here sometimes) to bring some light on the issue, so as to know what really happened there and why a decision of doing nothing on the issue was taken given the obvious fraudulent and blackmailing intent as CLEARLY evidenced from the messages of the same vendor's account (that the admin surely looked upon, isn't it?).
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support SR closed Door
i have reported supertrips to SR admin and pointed them to this thread, hope it helps
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http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/24bb54ca7e
topic heroin
I'm right and everyone knows it
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I guess all in all you can count this as a lesson learned. Don't FE and don't release funds until you test your product. I don't really think that the threat would hold any ground, I mean, what is the seller going to do? Come to your place? I would love for a seller to threaten me and try to come to my house, I have an armory in here. The seller wouldn't report you, that would be one of the most ignorant things a seller could do, tracking numbers and all.
If it was me, I would just blast the seller all over the forum. Not sure if the seller has the ability to withhold feedback from their page, but if they don't, go edit your feedback on their page, make it long and drawn out. I thankfully haven't had to deal with this sort of thing, but then again I check and recheck a sellers feedback and anything that might be on the forums that is said about them, if I find anything negative that I don't like, I find someone else.
Personally if it was me and I was offered the 33% I would probably take it, and chalk it up as a loss.
Best of luck!
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i no FE. this decision SR SUPPORT
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Sadly it's going to take way more than a handful of disgruntled heroin users to take a guy like SuperTrips down a notch. Still, it's better than the street yeah?
All you can do is make sure everyone knows what you think of his stuff so ppl can make an educated choice when buying his stuff. At the end of the day a lot of ppl just want to get off. They're not regular users, can't tell the difference between real Heroin and fake shit and they are happy with their stone.
If you want good #4 then Frank Matthews is hot atm. But you have to FE!! :D
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this is fucking sickening and has been going on for months, like many others have said.. i just now reported him and begged SR to take action, and will continue to do so until something's done. we came to SR to get away from dangerous street deals, and this is just bad as any IRL rip-off. more than anything though, i am really concerned for the safety of the community...
i don't want to hear stories about people dying from using this unknown shit, but i have a feeling we wouldn't hear them anyway considering they're dead..
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i don't want to hear stories about people dying from using this unknown shit, but i have a feeling we wouldn't hear them anyway considering they're dead..
you are right it is very dangerous
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I agree with Stanek.
Someone from SR should be on here making their views known - stanek has a genuine greivance.
Threatening someone with being outed to the cops is also a no-no in any illegal dealings so this vendor should at least be given an official warning.
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Threatening someone with being outed to the cops is also a no-no in any illegal dealings so this vendor should at least be given an official warning.
Again, there is no proof that threat came from ST. It was done by privnote.
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Again, there is no proof that threat came from ST. It was done by privnote.
pakchoi23 you surprise me. do you not see the obvious things. you know how to think logically and to draw conclusions after reading Writing in the messages? Why is he hiding in privnotif ?do not you believe me? Read Forums Super Thrips. or feedback (heroin).
you just inconsiderate. tell me you think I'm lying, and why are you defending Seller ST? You lawyer seller SuperTrips? lolka. You're a strange man. Sorry. no offense.
p.s tell me honestly pakchoy 23 you will buy heroin from the seller Supertrips? Yes or no? answer!
you can answer for his words? or you can just blablabla? :D
here's a super buy heroin from the Super Trips
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/739442e512 5g
or here
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/378abcd0bb
or better still here so that was enough lol
super heroin from superthrips
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/4d4d7ac8be
I am sure you will enjoy. This is a super heroine. LOL
0.1 USE intravenously, and then we'll talk with you if you stay alive.
p.s advise you to stock up on Naloxonum,it will save your life. I DON'T WANT YOU TO DIE
this is of course a joke, but I do not understand people who don't believe me, it annoys me.
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Again, there is no proof that threat came from ST. It was done by privnote.
pakchoi23 you surprise me. do you not see the obvious things. you know how to think logically and to draw conclusions after reading Writing in the messages? Why is he hiding in privnotif ?do not you believe me? Read Forums Super Thrips. or feedback (heroin).
you just inconsiderate. tell me you think I'm lying, and why are you defending Seller ST? You lawyer seller SuperTrips? lolka. You're a strange man. Sorry. no offense.
p.s tell me honestly pakchoy 23 you will buy heroin from the seller Supertrips? Yes or no? answer!
you can answer for his words? or you can just blablabla? :D
here's a super buy heroin from the Super Trips
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/739442e512 5g
or here
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/378abcd0bb
or better still here so that was enough lol
super heroin from superthrips
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/4d4d7ac8be
I am sure you will enjoy. This is a super heroine. LOL
0.1 USE intravenously, and then we'll talk with you if you stay alive.
p.s advise you to stock up on Naloxonum,it will save your life. I DON'T WANT YOU TO DIE
this is of course a joke, but I do not understand people who don't believe me, it annoys me.
No I think you misunderstood the way I write.
I was saying that SilkRoad cannot punish SuperTrips for threatening you cos it was done via privnote.
Of course I believe everything you have said. I am trying to explain that what happened to you is a mixture of bad luck, the way SilkRoad works and SuperTrips being smart enough and big enough vendor.
No I would not buy from Supertrips. If I wanted #4 I would go to FrankMatthews. I only smoke #3 and inject pharmaceutical amps. I have a 20 yr habit. 0.1g would do little for me ;)
I feel for you stenak but like I said before, all you can do is shout about it in the forums because when it comes to taking SuperTrips down a notch for this, you are powerless apart from your voice.
Please don't misunderstand me because of the way I write and because I am guessing English is not your 1st language.
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sorry
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;D roadies
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Again, there is no proof that threat came from ST. It was done by privnote.
pakchoi23 you surprise me. do you not see the obvious things. you know how to think logically and to draw conclusions after reading Writing in the messages? Why is he hiding in privnotif ?do not you believe me? Read Forums Super Thrips. or feedback (heroin).
you just inconsiderate. tell me you think I'm lying, and why are you defending Seller ST? You lawyer seller SuperTrips? lolka. You're a strange man. Sorry. no offense.
p.s tell me honestly pakchoy 23 you will buy heroin from the seller Supertrips? Yes or no? answer!
you can answer for his words? or you can just blablabla? :D
here's a super buy heroin from the Super Trips
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/739442e512 5g
or here
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/378abcd0bb
or better still here so that was enough lol
super heroin from superthrips
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/4d4d7ac8be
I am sure you will enjoy. This is a super heroine. LOL
0.1 USE intravenously, and then we'll talk with you if you stay alive.
p.s advise you to stock up on Naloxonum,it will save your life. I DON'T WANT YOU TO DIE
this is of course a joke, but I do not understand people who don't believe me, it annoys me.
No I think you misunderstood the way I write.
I was saying that SilkRoad cannot punish SuperTrips for threatening you cos it was done via privnote.
Of course I believe everything you have said. I am trying to explain that what happened to you is a mixture of bad luck, the way SilkRoad works and SuperTrips being smart enough and big enough vendor.
No I would not buy from Supertrips. If I wanted #4 I would go to FrankMatthews. I only smoke #3 and inject pharmaceutical amps. I have a 20 yr habit. 0.1g would do little for me ;)
I feel for you stenak but like I said before, all you can do is shout about it in the forums because when it comes to taking SuperTrips down a notch for this, you are powerless apart from your voice.
Please don't misunderstand me because of the way I write and because I am guessing English is not your 1st language.
It´s cool to see this thread is so lively.
@pakchoi Couldn't have said that any better. You do remember how, let's say 'skeptical' we were in response to Stenaks first post?
@stenak: good thing your still around calling this shit. A disgrace. I don't need to tell you, 'fuck the money', you left that behind already. Yet you are here. Calling it. +1 to you.
Privnote is no proof.
They caught FM proposing out of escrow transaction, it was called before it took place. Next day he was gone. Temporarily suspended. Maybe he did out of escrow transaction we'll never know.
Points being:
1. Offenses related to untaxed cash flow see immediate action without any proof neither, let's say any we know or heard of, at least.
2. For the rest, anything goes. Selective scamming, fraudulent products (could add dangerous), intimidation, extortion.
Peace out.
Jason
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There was me thinking DPR had created some sort of drug-filled utopia, away from all the bad things associated with the drugs' scene and overseen by a semi-mythical, prophet like character. ;)
Although I think SR is a genuine step forward in opposing the crazy 'war on drugs', lets not pretend that all the negatives of the drug trade are gonna be absent. Probably the same with any black market industry in all honesty. Just got to take the rough with the smooth sometimes, and if you've been wronged on SR keep pluggin away until you get the kind of compensation merited by whatever happened.
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There was me thinking DPR had created some sort of drug-filled utopia, away from all the bad things associated with the drugs' scene and overseen by a semi-mythical, prophet like character. ;)
Although I think SR is a genuine step forward in opposing the crazy 'war on drugs', lets not pretend that all the negatives of the drug trade are gonna be absent. Probably the same with any black market industry in all honesty. Just got to take the rough with the smooth sometimes, and if you've been wronged on SR keep pluggin away until you get the kind of compensation merited by whatever happened.
Dunno why you glorify DPR that much or why you go so mythical about it.
SR is a website advertising items most of which are regulated and illigal to trade, for a fee. It offers buyers and sellers a platform for trades, and escrow for those transaction. It's owners interest is to have a high volume of exchanges, be it volume or value.
The main benefit for the buyer is to have acces to a large variety of high grades products, the sellers benefits are to remain anonymous.
The main drawback or benefit, depending on your willigness to utilize violence as a mean, is that both are forced to settle their problems under scrutinity of SR admins who ultimately decide of the outcome, their interest being stated above.
Then, this thread is about stenak having played by SR rules, which fucked him, ultimatly, whereas IRL he wouldn't have bought what he got knowingly. The 'resolution' would have been different too, it bet.
Peace out.
Jason.
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Send me your encrypted address, I guarantee to reship a handkerchief.
LOL.
It's hard to handle the issue of fake or shitty product. It's not like there's a quality control process being followed. Posts here in the forum and feedback are all people have to go by. In my experience with bud, most people do not know what good bud is until you provide them with it and once they get the good stuff they are hard to please after that. We need as many reviews of vendors and products as we can get, but people are lazy and don't want to be bothered. Buyers are sort of intimidated to leave 5/5 as well, especially if you want to continue to do business on that account.
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by the way I'm just sure that SuperTrips uses a fake feedback.
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As in the title.
Send me your encrypted address, I guarantee to reship a handkerchief.
Seriously, OP, without any specifics you won't even get moral support.
This.
What's with all these two sentence threads. Are people too lazy to even write a decent paragraph to defend themselves or ask for help?
Lol. I like it better when it's a paragraph that's being punctuated as a lone sentence.
xD
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Jason Bourne - I was being sarcastic, hence the wink.
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Jason Bourne - I was being sarcastic, hence the wink.
Hehehe. My bad.
Too many fanboys and groupies in here.
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another day another dollar 8) for who! you.
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Hmmmmm
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Power corrupts. Absolute power, corrupts absolutely.
+1 stenak
+1 Jason Bourne
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Power corrupts. Absolute power, corrupts absolutely.
Couldn't agree more jagfug! Here here!! ;)
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Power corrupts. Absolute power, corrupts absolutely.
+1 stenak
+1 Jason Bourne
Just another day at the libertotalitarian's.
Thanks
Peace out
Jason
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I'm pretty sure Fents cheaper.
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SuperTrips SCAMMER. but worse is the fact that the administration of SR helps him. He makes a profit SR and they will always protect him.
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Wow do I feel stupid >:( I didn't read this thread before ordering his crap I read a complaint from 1 guy on another thread email ST and gave him the benefit of his feedback I now own a bad of Fentanyl .
Ironically I have more than 20 F patches I can not use because of a allergy .
I had placed a order with Frank had to cancel so I just ordered in hopes I would get the same type of #4 .
I have run 2 tests on the crap I was sent both are negative for opiates .
I did not FE I will post outcome ST is saying this crap is H#4 its like baking soda with a slight bitter taste , if you look at what ST specializes in its domestic chemicals obviously he is slinging some crap they are producing in a lab .
Don't buy from this guy
GF
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In the case of being sent fake/shitty products, is it acceptable to refer it to resolution, once that option is available?
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In the case of being sent fake/shitty products, is it acceptable to refer it to resolution, once that option is available?
Of course you can. As been stated before, you won't get shit from RC admins if you had an issue with ST, as this guy is being SR golden goose. Do a little research and you'll see that this episode is not unique.
If you could back up your claims with some tests, you'd build a stronger case. The thing is, SR doesn't necessarily consider uploaded pics as proof, as they can be faked, nor any out of SR conversation.
So you can start a resolution, but you should consider yourself lucky if you got a 50% refund.
Peace out
Jason Bourne