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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: dougefresh419 on June 04, 2013, 05:02 am

Title: how do i buy bitcoins
Post by: dougefresh419 on June 04, 2013, 05:02 am
i've been looking all over the internet on how to buy bitcoins...nothing is helping me..everywhere wants me to sign up and give them all this fucking information...i just want to buy bitcoins not signup for second life....is there a simple way to purchase bitcoins?

once i buy bitcoins how do i put them in my SR account?

i figured there'd be a way to buy bitcoins from SR...this is turning into a real hassle
Title: Re: how do i buy bitcoins
Post by: mindlessWarrior on June 04, 2013, 05:15 am
im also curious about this and would like to hear answers from more experienced users.

.....But from what I understand its very simple. All you have to do is go onto bitinstant.com..click cash deposit (from say walmart i hear is a good place) ->> deposit to *bitcoin address. You can find your SR bitcoin address by clicking account and then clicking 'make a deposit'. Then you simply follow the steps on bitinstant. Print the slip. Take it to walmart and give them cash. 30 minutes to an hour later you should have bit coins on your SR account. Also use a fake name, address, number and Tor email when you do all this. They shouldnt ask for i.d.  If they do ask for i.d go somewhere else.

Thats just my thoughts though and what iv come to understand. I haven't actually purchased any bitcoins myself yet. If im wrong and there is a better method someone please correct me
Title: Re: how do i buy bitcoins
Post by: Libertas on June 04, 2013, 05:21 am
Please see the SR Wiki here:

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php?title=Buyer%27s_Guide#Getting_Bitcoins

Libertas
Title: Re: how do i buy bitcoins
Post by: Scintillation on June 04, 2013, 05:22 am
If you're in the US, the simplest way to buy BTC is to use Coinbase since it accepts bank transfers and debit cards without a long wait like mtgox.  However, it is not very anonymous.

mindlessWarrior mentions Bitinstant.  Do not buy BTC with bitinstant.  Instead use their service (if you choose to) to transfer USD to mtgox or another exchange and buy the BTC yourself.  Bitinstant capitalizes on spread and will get you a bad price.  Also, if you do choose to buy BTC with bitinstant do not send the BTC directly to a SR address.

Bitcoins are not anonymous if an address can be tied to you.

Using IRC and out of band transfers is worth it (for anonymity) and relatively safe if you go about it correctly and carefully.  Even buying locally from someone is probably better than having official records on your transactions and video footage of you sending money at Walmart or equivalent.

Look into mixing services.  There are some reputable ones with zero or close to no fees.

Mining is also a good way to generate BTC anonymously.
Title: Re: how do i buy bitcoins
Post by: mindlessWarrior on June 04, 2013, 05:31 am
damn...this means i have more research to do and my friend gave me bad advice. ><
What about using bitinstant to send the funds to mtgox and then through a mixer. Would that be a good secure way?
and what do you mean bitinstand gets a bad price for you......gah im so confused lol
Title: Re: how do i buy bitcoins
Post by: mindlessWarrior on June 04, 2013, 05:39 am
i swear learning pgp is 100times easier then figuring out how to safely buy a bitcoin. Just because there are soooo many methods. Cant one person just be like. Hey this is the best method to buy a bitcoin. Everyone do it. Or else.

And lets be honest..the SR wiki on buying BTC doesnt help at all. It merely points you in the direction
Title: Re: how do i buy bitcoins
Post by: Scintillation on June 04, 2013, 05:42 am
damn...this means i have more research to do and my friend gave me bad advice. ><
What about using bitinstant to send the funds to mtgox and then through a mixer. Would that be a good secure way?
and what do you mean bitinstand gets a bad price for you......gah im so confused lol

So, in regards to bitinstant getting you a bad price, the USD/BTC price is set by supply and demand on exchanges.  As I'm sure you know, it fluctuates.  If you buy BTC with bitinstant, you are asking them to put the order in somewhere for you.  Since this process isn't immediate, they can exploit this to choose a high USD value per Bitcoin.

Let's say you place an order at some price.  Then you go to Walmart and send the money.  Then you receive your BTC sometime after (let's just say an hour on average after you send the money).

If the USD value of BTC goes higher at some point before they send, they make money because they send you less BTC.

If the USD value of BTC goes down, they can just select the price it was either when the order was placed or when they received your payment.

They do this to make additional profits, and it has been documented, although they don't admit to it.

If you buy USD with bitinstant, they can't exploit this.  Bitinstant with a fake name -> mtgox with an unverified account -> trustworthy mixer -> SR is not ideal but I'd trust it (and often do.)  Recently mtgox started cracking down on unverified accounts and are requesting ID's (before this was just if you were wiring money directly to them - not if bitinstant or equivalent were sending money in.. you'll have to look into it).
Title: Re: how do i buy bitcoins
Post by: dougefresh419 on June 04, 2013, 07:28 am
so all of you should have just wrote "NO ITS NOT WORTH THE FUCKING HASSLE FORGET YOU EVER HEARD ABOUT THIS SHIT" >:(
Title: Re: how do i buy bitcoins
Post by: nzraver on June 04, 2013, 07:41 am
I dunno about in your country, but in mine (New Zealand) we can make a cash deposit at one of the local banks to a bitcoin broker :)
Title: Re: how do i buy bitcoins
Post by: dougefresh419 on June 04, 2013, 07:44 am
I dunno about in your country, but in mine (New Zealand) we can make a cash deposit at one of the local banks to a bitcoin broker :)

...dick

Coinbase requires a bank account and phone number...FUCK THAT   where can i buy bitcoins without giving away my information...i have a debit card, why is this so hard
Title: Re: how do i buy bitcoins
Post by: MedicineWoman on June 04, 2013, 07:47 pm
To help out newbs, I wrote up a simple guide for ANONYMOUSLY buying bitcoins using cash, and transferring to the Road:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/2f9f85aa35

There is nothing to buy, and nothing to download. The guide is designed for buyers, not vendors, and it assumes no previous knowledge or computer skill.

View the information for free, and if moved, donate!

The bitcoin scene changes frequently. By putting this info in a listing, I can update it in one place rather than in many forum posts.

Enjoy,
MedicineWoman
Title: Re: how do i buy bitcoins
Post by: wordpresshacker on June 04, 2013, 08:02 pm
i've been looking all over the internet on how to buy bitcoins...nothing is helping me..everywhere wants me to sign up and give them all this fucking information...i just want to buy bitcoins not signup for second life....is there a simple way to purchase bitcoins?

once i buy bitcoins how do i put them in my SR account?

i figured there'd be a way to buy bitcoins from SR...this is turning into a real hassle

There are a few new vendors on SR converting MoneyPaks to BTC directly into your SR account... 

If your just buying you a personal stash of weed or blow...  Go to SR get the exact amount needed "shipping and cost of goods"  even message the vendor on the total amount needed  IE 3.2BTC..

Now then message the moneypak to BTC asking of you need 3.2BTC how much with there fee do you need the moneypak for...

This is the least hassle and since the moneypak is a trip to Walmart....

Even have a friend go buy it for you.

EASY AS 1.2.3.