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Title: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: oooooner on June 02, 2013, 03:37 pm
I haven't picked any fights on here, and even when I write posts instead of doing the "spamming" to get to 50 or to 100, I still get negative Karma.  Why is that?  Is there a way to see who gives you the bad Karma?  All newbies get this negative Karma and to all of you that do not know, it is important, especially if you're a vendor, to have more positive Karma than negative.  Anyone more experienced have any answers out there for me?  That would be much appreciated.  Is this just like high school and people are mean to the new kids or what? 

I don't understand the Karma system at all so if someone could explain why it is important, or at the very least agree with me that they don't get it so this post can get some traction, that would be great...  thanks!

And I appreciate anyone who comments!
Thank you all very much.

-o
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: snark on June 02, 2013, 03:40 pm
There's no way to see who gives it to you. Generally if you make a post that someone else thinks contains incorrect information you will receive a downvote. I know people do also just downvote posts they don't personally like. There's also always the chance you really pissed somebody off with something you posted and they downvote whatever they see you posting after that.
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: oooooner on June 02, 2013, 03:47 pm
There's no way to see who gives it to you. Generally if you make a post that someone else thinks contains incorrect information you will receive a downvote. I know people do also just downvote posts they don't personally like. There's also always the chance you really pissed somebody off with something you posted and they downvote whatever they see you posting after that.


Thank you so very much for the explanation.  That helps a great deal.  So that means it's just a popularity thing?  If you tick off a lot of people, then you're going to have a lot of bad Karma, and if people like you, you'll have good Karma.  I suddenly feel like I'm in high school all over again, LOL.  I kid, I kid. :)  Thanks again.
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: thecatinthehat101 on June 02, 2013, 03:57 pm
Personally I feel it is much more respectable to just be dead honest with people not to insult them not to lie to em but not to beat around the bush either. I know with me I appreciate it with friends and I consider this friendly conversation being dead honest with me. If I tick you tell me again not insulting someone if I hit the nail on the head and you think so that's fine too. The point being if I'm getting on your nerves of hopefully am doing the opposite I'm aware of that instead of just guessing. Live by the golden rule and don't worry so much about the karma numbers they should take care of themselves that's my belief. That's just me!
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: theweeman on June 02, 2013, 03:58 pm
i dont think it really matters does it. i personally could not care less if i get negative karma
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: 95sc on June 02, 2013, 04:01 pm
I think it would be great if the Karma system included the ability to see which votes garnered the up/down votes.  That is, even though the voter would remain anonymous the posts that (dis)pleased the masses would be indicated accordingly.  It would create a sort of positive / negative behavioral reinforcement system.  It would just be cool to see how people feel about particular opinions or forms of expression.

Plus, if we all know what (dis)pleases everyone we can all strive to post in a manner pleasing to the the masses thereby creating a homogenous community of drug fueled, like thinking, like posting lemmings.  It's a win-win proposition!
 ;)
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: tree on June 02, 2013, 04:05 pm
I think you got most of your bad karma from the drama you've had when you first posted on the forums... People get bad karma if they're exposing themselves at risk and disclose personal information, not always when they're pissing people off. And in your first first post, you showed that you weren't very secure so you got bad karma (because of the drama). And also for some reason haters give bad karma in the newbie section, but maybe that's also because newbies misinform? I don't know exactly.
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: oooooner on June 02, 2013, 04:07 pm
At the risk of pissing someone off lol. Personally I feel it is much more respectable to just be dead honest with people not to insult them not to lie to em but not to beat around the bush either. I know with me I appreciate it with friends and I consider this friendly conversation being dead honest with me. If I tick you tell me again not insulting someone if I hit the nail on the head and you think so that's fine too. The point being if I'm getting on your nerves of hopefully am doing the opposite I'm aware of that instead of just guessing. That's just me!

Exactly, I mean, I wish people would just be straight up with one another and not lie/be deceitful/disrespectful.  A little bit of honesty, kindness and respect goes a long way and if everyone behaved in that matter, then we wouldn't need the Karma system.  But I suppose unfortunately not everyone is Ms. GoodieTwoShoes all the time, hence the Karma system.  But I am on the fence about this Karma system thing on forums.  I don't know what's better.  Letting everyone have it out, or having the Karma system and therefore reducing some of that fighting.  The Karma system just seems so passive-aggressive to me.  But hey, what do I know.
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: oooooner on June 02, 2013, 04:10 pm
I think you got most of your bad karma from the drama you've had when you first posted on the forums... People get bad karma if they're exposing themselves at risk and disclose personal information, not always when they're pissing people off. And in your first first post, you showed that you weren't very secure so you got bad karma (because of the drama). And also for some reason haters give bad karma in the newbie section, but maybe that's also because newbies misinform? I don't know exactly.

I thought about that, I did, and I figured as much, but thank you for pointing that out because I wasn't sure if that was the type of thing that would definitely bring me down since I was being honest, not fighting.  But thank you for likely confirming that for me.
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: oooooner on June 02, 2013, 04:13 pm
i dont think it really matters does it. i personally could not care less if i get negative karma

I wish I couldn't care, but I'm a seller so I have to.  :-\  Good for you though.  I am jealous!
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: oooooner on June 02, 2013, 04:16 pm
I think it would be great if the Karma system included the ability to see which votes garnered the up/down votes.  That is, even though the voter would remain anonymous the posts that (dis)pleased the masses would be indicated accordingly.  It would create a sort of positive / negative behavioral reinforcement system.  It would just be cool to see how people feel about particular opinions or forms of expression.

Plus, if we all know what (dis)pleases everyone we can all strive to post in a manner pleasing to the the masses thereby creating a homogenous community of drug fueled, like thinking, like posting lemmings.  It's a win-win proposition!
 ;)

LOL  ;D
That would be hysterical.
And I just hit my 100th post!!!
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: oooooner on June 02, 2013, 04:18 pm
I think it would be great if the Karma system included the ability to see which votes garnered the up/down votes.  That is, even though the voter would remain anonymous the posts that (dis)pleased the masses would be indicated accordingly.  It would create a sort of positive / negative behavioral reinforcement system.  It would just be cool to see how people feel about particular opinions or forms of expression.

Plus, if we all know what (dis)pleases everyone we can all strive to post in a manner pleasing to the the masses thereby creating a homogenous community of drug fueled, like thinking, like posting lemmings.  It's a win-win proposition!
 ;)

And I just gave you Karma +1 !!!  (once you hit 100 is when you can start giving positive/negative karma)
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: sclerogal on June 02, 2013, 04:41 pm
Hi Oooooer,

I received -14 karma's overnight and I'm not a vendor, but I was a little hurt because I am an honest and nice person and I am not the type of person who get's involved with heated debates or insults someone. I took the issue to a moderator, and he/she said its probably some person with 14 accounts that's given you the 14 negative Karma's. I now it has to be since I barely posted anything one day and came back the next day to find -14? Some people with no lives enjoy doing that.  Why? We'll never know.  Ok, let me give you Karma for your business diligence Ooooner, anyone reading this, PLEASE SEE Ooooner's Vendor page.  She/He is a wonderful Vendor, will go out of their way for you.  To all Newbies, let Ooooner be your 1st, start small, and make it good experience.  Please read all policies for any Vendor so you are not unpleasantly surprised. 

Luv to All...
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: tree on June 02, 2013, 04:56 pm
Sclerogal, a lot of people have received -14 at once lately... Razorspyne addressed the issue but mods always locked his threads. You're already the third one to which it has happened... Razorsyne thinks it's one of the mods but if you weren't involved with mods when you got that -14 then it could prove him wrong. That whole mass negging is pretty weird.
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: Libertas on June 02, 2013, 05:10 pm
Sclerogal, a lot of people have received -14 at once lately... Razorspyne addressed the issue but mods always locked his threads. You're already the third one to which it has happened... Razorsyne thinks it's one of the mods but if you weren't involved with mods when you got that -14 then it could prove him wrong. That whole mass negging is pretty weird.

All of the mods (and even Dread Pirate Roberts and inigo, the admins) received this -14 negative karma as well so it's most definitely either one person with 14 shill accounts or a small group with 14 shill accounts.

A single person could easily do it by having two or three computers and running a number of virtual machines on them, all logged in to Silk Road at the same time, but it is more than likely two or three people with a computer or two each, and all running virtual machines. I can't point fingers because it's impossible to know who gives anyone karma, nor can I imagine why they would bother doing this, but each to their own!

It's only forum karma at the end of the day though - a "fun" feature on the forums - nothing major to worry about! :)

Libertas
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: putinwork62 on June 02, 2013, 05:15 pm
I haven't picked any fights on here, and even when I write posts instead of doing the "spamming" to get to 50 or to 100, I still get negative Karma.  Why is that?  Is there a way to see who gives you the bad Karma?  All newbies get this negative Karma and to all of you that do not know, it is important, especially if you're a vendor, to have more positive Karma than negative.  Anyone more experienced have any answers out there for me?  That would be much appreciated.  Is this just like high school and people are mean to the new kids or what? 

I don't understand the Karma system at all so if someone could explain why it is important, or at the very least agree with me that they don't get it so this post can get some traction, that would be great...  thanks!

And I appreciate anyone who comments!
Thank you all very much.

-o

That's what i'm saying i got -4 karma just because i asked a couple of questions smh like wtf
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: thecatinthehat101 on June 02, 2013, 05:45 pm
And I thank those who gave me good karma and respect those who didn't or gave negative. I try not to think about it as an election just a friendly conversation.
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: tree on June 02, 2013, 05:52 pm
Sclerogal, a lot of people have received -14 at once lately... Razorspyne addressed the issue but mods always locked his threads. You're already the third one to which it has happened... Razorsyne thinks it's one of the mods but if you weren't involved with mods when you got that -14 then it could prove him wrong. That whole mass negging is pretty weird.

All of the mods (and even Dread Pirate Roberts and inigo, the admins) received this -14 negative karma as well so it's most definitely either one person with 14 shill accounts or a small group with 14 shill accounts.

A single person could easily do it by having two or three computers and running a number of virtual machines on them, all logged in to Silk Road at the same time, but it is more than likely two or three people with a computer or two each, and all running virtual machines. I can't point fingers because it's impossible to know who gives anyone karma, nor can I imagine why they would bother doing this, but each to their own!

It's only forum karma at the end of the day though - a "fun" feature on the forums - nothing major to worry about! :)

Libertas
Well I wasn't accusing mods. Razospyne's accusations on ssbd were believable though, until I saw that other people got -14 as well and didn't argue with mods. I guess it's a major troll then, but why would someone put so much effort into negging people? Weird.
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: Libertas on June 02, 2013, 05:58 pm
Sclerogal, a lot of people have received -14 at once lately... Razorspyne addressed the issue but mods always locked his threads. You're already the third one to which it has happened... Razorsyne thinks it's one of the mods but if you weren't involved with mods when you got that -14 then it could prove him wrong. That whole mass negging is pretty weird.

All of the mods (and even Dread Pirate Roberts and inigo, the admins) received this -14 negative karma as well so it's most definitely either one person with 14 shill accounts or a small group with 14 shill accounts.

A single person could easily do it by having two or three computers and running a number of virtual machines on them, all logged in to Silk Road at the same time, but it is more than likely two or three people with a computer or two each, and all running virtual machines. I can't point fingers because it's impossible to know who gives anyone karma, nor can I imagine why they would bother doing this, but each to their own!

It's only forum karma at the end of the day though - a "fun" feature on the forums - nothing major to worry about! :)

Libertas
Well I wasn't accusing mods. Razospyne's accusations on ssbd were believable though, until I saw that other people got -14 as well and didn't argue with mods. I guess it's a major troll then, but why would someone put so much effort into negging people? Weird.

Oh I wasn't implying that at all, tree, I was just stating that we're all getting it too.

No idea why someone would want to do this (perhaps it's even to cause a rift, like it seems to have succeeded in doing for some outrageous reason), but none of us have any way to know who it is so accusations can only be presented as pure speculation. It couldn't actually be a moderator seeing as we're all getting it and you can't give yourself karma so the only other possibility is that it's somebody else / a group doing it to see how much of a ruckus they can cause. Outrageous that people are falling for it though on a revolutionary forum such as this given that they're just anonymous internet points but what can ya do! :o

Libertas
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: sclerogal on June 02, 2013, 06:26 pm
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Sclerogal, a lot of people have received -14 at once lately... Razorspyne addressed the issue but mods always locked his threads. You're already the third one to which it has happened... Razorsyne thinks it's one of the mods but if you weren't involved with mods when you got that -14 then it could prove him wrong. That whole mass negging is pretty weird.

Hi there,

Not exactly sure what you mean by being involved with the mods. I have pm'd  Libertas, and found him to ALWAYS answer back, and be helpful.  I have made mistakes, Libertas called me on it, and explained the process, and I learned from it. He/she locked the thread since nothing more can be said or done about it.  I'm not sure that the mod's are involved in the negging karma thing.  I know I got -14 overnight a few days and I didn't really post much of anything that day that would even suffice -1.  I know I'm pretty innocent here, and I think I'm an honest and giving individual, I find it hard to believe someone deliberately chose me to pick on. They could have.  I think my number may have been up? I don't know about Libertas giving neg karma especially to Newbies, I really don't think so, he's/she's been EXCEPTIONALLY GOOD WITH THE NEWBIES.  I could be naive here, and totally be wrong. What are other people really thinking???
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: tree on June 02, 2013, 07:20 pm
It couldn't actually be a moderator seeing as we're all getting it and you can't give yourself karma so the only other possibility is that it's somebody else / a group doing it to see how much of a ruckus they can cause.
Libertas
Maybe a group of mods? :P I'm just kidding, I think mods have better things to do than randomly neg people, and since I saw that random people have been given -14 before that pricessHIGH thing, I really don't think mods have done it.

And sclerogal, I meant being involved as in having arguments with them, or saying something they don't like. PrincessHIGH got -14 immediatly after saying that ssbd didn't like very much and the discussion was pretty heated before too so people started to think it was mods that gave huge negs but now it just seems to be done to random people, so I don't think it's actually mods. But well.. It was just a consipiracy theory but honestly it was pretty believable after that princessHIGH thing.
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: scout on June 02, 2013, 07:25 pm
tree, thank you for being a voice of reason!  the -14 thing is happening to members we've never even interacted with, and has been having for a few weeks.  it's even happening to Dread Pirate Roberts and inigo, and several amazing members like astor.
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: Dutch81 on June 02, 2013, 07:32 pm
negative karma booooo
boobies yaaaaaay
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: tree on June 02, 2013, 07:36 pm
Maybe it's a bot? I don't think some people would get together as a group to get -14 karma in 30 seconds. One single person would require a lot of VMs and a big screen to give so much karma in so little time. In both cases, it would a lot of effort just to slightly annoy some people..
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: BlackIris on June 02, 2013, 07:41 pm
In my experience I've found out that yes, the first times are the more problematic for what it concerns Karma. Until you don't have a solid + or - figure anything can give you one or the other, sometimes without either you understanding why.

One thing I can advice you to get you started on getting more good karma is to try help others in a field you think you know a little about. For example when I was new as soon as I got my 50 posts I tried to reply to concerns about psychedelics and similar because this is the field where I have more knowledge about. Others do the same for what it concerns security or shipping, or either other drugs; the choice is yours.

If then you really see you are in trouble with the Karma and you really cannot get some how much you try, go in off topic and post in the Karma thread. If you spread the love you will also receive a lot there.

As a last thing don't worry too much at beginning either if you get bad Karma for nothing. It happened to me also. You cannot do nothing about it anyway. Whatever motivation (either the most out of this world) can make you get bad Karma as a newcomer. That's how it works, sadly.
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: thecatinthehat101 on June 02, 2013, 08:39 pm
Listen guys I feel we are missing the point here. Is karma important well yes but you know whats more important? Acting in a manner that is respectful of the other members and helpful towards voicing accurate and helpful information on the threads. Honesty plays a role too but if you go in to this with the soul intention of receiving only good karma and never reviving bad karma that's just not helpful to anyone here including yourself.

Sometimes members are going to disagree with you, your gonna make mistakes it's gonna happen.If I disagree with someone I do so in as respectful and mature manner as possible That's my 2 cents. But this mentality of posting for the soul purpose of karma gains is just gonna drive you to madness. That's not fun!

B.T.W How do I give karma their are some great points brought up here as well as some excellent questions that I feel need to be rewarded???
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: Libertas on June 02, 2013, 08:50 pm
B.T.W How do I give karma their are some great points brought up here as well as some excellent questions that I feel need to be rewarded???

The ability to award karma will become available to you when you reach 100 posts, and the captcha will also be removed at that time.

Libertas
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: sclerogal on June 02, 2013, 09:44 pm
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The ability to award karma will become available to you when you reach 100 posts, and the captcha will also be removed at that time.

Where would I see that capability?  I've been over the 100 for the several days and I don't see where the Karma option is available?
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: chunkier on June 02, 2013, 09:47 pm
Yeah I don't see it as much of an issue.
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: BlackIris on June 02, 2013, 09:51 pm
Listen guys I feel we are missing the point here. Is karma important well yes but you know whats more important? Acting in a manner that is respectful of the other members and helpful towards voicing accurate and helpful information on the threads. Honesty plays a role too but if you go in to this with the soul intention of receiving only good karma and never reviving bad karma that's just not helpful to anyone here including yourself.

Karma SHOULD be a figure representing your behavior in the community. Nobody helps others for the karma (simply because it would have no sense at all), but if you are an helping person this should be represented in your karma figure, since it should act sort of like the feedback for vendors in the main site.

Sadly there are people that (as for the same feedback to vendors) are irresponsible in the use of the tool and for this, especially new members, can find themselves (and rightly so) at a loss at beginning on why they are receiving bad for nothing. It is more than understandable.

Also if the karma system is not perfect as it is, anyway it is very difficult that a person with much more + than - is a troll, and the same being true for the contrary. It is just at beginning, until you pass a certain threshold so as to have a karma figure more established, that it's like riding a roller-coaster.
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: Libertas on June 02, 2013, 09:56 pm
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The ability to award karma will become available to you when you reach 100 posts, and the captcha will also be removed at that time.

Where would I see that capability?  I've been over the 100 for the several days and I don't see where the Karma option is available?

There should be a [thank] and [discourage] button underneath a poster's name or avatar.
[thank] awards positive karma and [discourage] awards negative karma. You are limited to giving karma to a each person once every 72 hours, but if you award bad karma you can change it to good karma and vice-versa within that 72 hour period.

Libertas
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: oooooner on June 02, 2013, 11:46 pm
Hi Oooooer,

I received -14 karma's overnight and I'm not a vendor, but I was a little hurt because I am an honest and nice person and I am not the type of person who get's involved with heated debates or insults someone. I took the issue to a moderator, and he/she said its probably some person with 14 accounts that's given you the 14 negative Karma's. I now it has to be since I barely posted anything one day and came back the next day to find -14? Some people with no lives enjoy doing that.  Why? We'll never know.  Ok, let me give you Karma for your business diligence Ooooner, anyone reading this, PLEASE SEE Ooooner's Vendor page.  She/He is a wonderful Vendor, will go out of their way for you.  To all Newbies, let Ooooner be your 1st, start small, and make it good experience.  Please read all policies for any Vendor so you are not unpleasantly surprised. 

Luv to All...

I cannot believe I am just now seeing this.  You are the kindest, best person ever, thank you so much.  This post almost makes me want to cry.  Remember, five ohs in the name people! 

I +1 you earlier today and I wish I could keep doing it but unfortch you can only give someone good or bad karma once every 72 hours.  I want to give you tons and tons and more tons.  Thanks again so much!!
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: RobLoblaw on June 03, 2013, 12:15 am
my first neg was the hardest. did i do something to upset someone  >:(, did i say something that was inappropriate  :'(, why don't people like me  :o lol
then i got another, and another one, then i got hit with 14 in like a minute. it gets easier as you go.
i'm not going to censor what i write and not everyone is going to agree with me or dig what i putting out there. thats fair and i'm ok with that. and you will always have people who just dicking around and give negs for no reason.
i dont think people take them too seriously. i wasnt sure when i first started. i had the impression they carried weight in judging people. eventually i spent enough time reading the forum and i learned of all kinds of members who have a lot negative karma but their posts add a ton of positive knowledge and entertainment to the board 
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: oooooner on June 03, 2013, 12:20 am
I still cannot get my positive Karma higher than my negative.  I think I'm better off keeping my mouth shut except when talking about drugs.  I'm really good at talking about that, my drug use, my 10 years in New York City, my diagnosis of adult-onset epilepsy (my first seizure was in Athens, Greece), break-up with my fiance of 7 years, and my dual visits to rehab to Passages out in CA, my unemployment and now trying to make a living by selling here on SR.  Thus far I'm doing okay, to my surprise, but this karma thing is not helping me out.
It's time to sign off the forums, me thinks. 
Have a wonderful night, you sweet, lovely guys and gals.
xoxo.  :-*
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: RobLoblaw on June 03, 2013, 12:22 am
lol you have a much closer gap then me
i will make it one closer +1
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: oooooner on June 03, 2013, 12:24 am
my first neg was the hardest. did i do something to upset someone  >:(, did i say something that was inappropriate  :'(, why don't people like me  :o lol
then i got another, and another one, then i got hit with 14 in like a minute. it gets easier as you go.
i'm not going to censor what i write and not everyone is going to agree with me or dig what i putting out there. thats fair and i'm ok with that. and you will always have people who just dicking around and give negs for no reason.
i dont think people take them too seriously. i wasnt sure when i first started. i had the impression they carried weight in judging people. eventually i spent enough time reading the forum and i learned of all kinds of members who have a lot negative karma but their posts add a ton of positive knowledge and enterhtainment to the board

Yeah I've seen you around and could never figure out why your Karma was why it was.  You compose thoughtful, well-written feedback to people, yet you have hardly any positive Karma.  That blows my mind.
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: oooooner on June 03, 2013, 12:26 am
lol you have a much closer gap then me
i will make it one closer +1

i just upped you, too. :)
thx.
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: oooooner on June 03, 2013, 12:30 am
my first neg was the hardest. did i do something to upset someone  >:(, did i say something that was inappropriate  :'(, why don't people like me  :o lol
then i got another, and another one, then i got hit with 14 in like a minute. it gets easier as you go.
i'm not going to censor what i write and not everyone is going to agree with me or dig what i putting out there. thats fair and i'm ok with that. and you will always have people who just dicking around and give negs for no reason.
i dont think people take them too seriously. i wasnt sure when i first started. i had the impression they carried weight in judging people. eventually i spent enough time reading the forum and i learned of all kinds of members who have a lot negative karma but their posts add a ton of positive knowledge and entertainment to the board

Also, I worry about the Karma because I am a vendor...  I need not have bad feedback anywhere.  My actual seller feedback is 100% perfect so I'm alright but still, ya know?
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: HappyTrees on June 03, 2013, 12:34 am
who knows =/
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: RobLoblaw on June 03, 2013, 01:17 am
Also, I worry about the Karma because I am a vendor...  I need not have bad feedback anywhere.  My actual seller feedback is 100% perfect so I'm alright but still, ya know?

thanks for karma  :D
but i wouldnt worry too much about the karma rating on the forum. people put a lot of weight into a sellers feedback rating on SR. they also read the feedback reviews. the forum is also very important but potential buyers will be looking more at what past buyers are saying on your forum page. if your thread in the forum is full of people praising your products, stealth and costumer service then you could have -10000000 karma and i would still buy from you.
i have bought drugs from a lot of pricks/assholes who i didnt like at all. they had great products, they always showed up on time and they gave good counts. i didnt like them as friends. its a business transaction. i think most people see it like that
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: thecatinthehat101 on June 03, 2013, 12:01 pm
From what I understand their is nothing to karma besides reputation on the boards. To some people that may not mean much and to me personally I feel my name as you get to know me better and see my post will bring its own karma despite what any negative or positive numbers may indicate. So in that respect I lend very little weight to karma and very high weight to reputation on the board. Actions speak louder than words or in this case numbers. See you guys around and be safe.
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: Moloch on June 03, 2013, 12:08 pm
Karma is for the Hindus.
I follow my own guidelines.
:)
Someone wrote '+1' in a response to before. Doesn't seem like they follow through on it, though. :(
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: oooooner on June 03, 2013, 02:21 pm
Jesus Christ, now I'm just getting spammed or whatever the f*ck.  I logged off last night with -12 and wake up to -27.  That's just great.  Thanks a lot people.
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: oooooner on June 03, 2013, 02:29 pm
Karma is for the Hindus.
I follow my own guidelines.
:)
Someone wrote '+1' in a response to before. Doesn't seem like they follow through on it, though. :(

I +1 you. :)
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: scout on June 03, 2013, 07:02 pm
Jesus Christ, now I'm just getting spammed or whatever the f*ck.  I logged off last night with -12 and wake up to -27.  That's just great.  Thanks a lot people.

this started happening a few weeks back and when it first started, it really upset me.  now that it is still happening, it's less bothersome because it proves there is nothing behind it other than some asshole(s) who are just negging the hell out of a bunch of people here.

don't let it get to you too much - know that it's happening to a LARGE number of members here, including inigo and DPR themselves.  this should tell you that it's nothing personal and nothing you did or said - it's just someone (or multiple someones - who knows!) with too much time on their hands and not enough medication.  ;)
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: Phillippa Hole on June 03, 2013, 07:34 pm
Its not just newbs.

I've only just started posting after months of reading posts. There is a thread in the rumor mill for UK cannabis buyers experiences. Seems anyone in that thread leaves a good review for a vendor who is not flavor of the month you will get negative karma. It is a very clique group who don't like outsiders saying something good about someone they hate. They must be working for that vendor or something.

Mostly I think they're all as paranoid as fuck. Good karma bad karma. I think most of us have other things to be worrying about.
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: oooooner on June 03, 2013, 10:19 pm
Jesus Christ, now I'm just getting spammed or whatever the f*ck.  I logged off last night with -12 and wake up to -27.  That's just great.  Thanks a lot people.

this started happening a few weeks back and when it first started, it really upset me.  now that it is still happening, it's less bothersome because it proves there is nothing behind it other than some asshole(s) who are just negging the hell out of a bunch of people here.

don't let it get to you too much - know that it's happening to a LARGE number of members here, including inigo and DPR themselves.  this should tell you that it's nothing personal and nothing you did or said - it's just someone (or multiple someones - who knows!) with too much time on their hands and not enough medication.  ;)

Thx scout.  Honestly I'm to the point where I'm starting to not give a crap.  Or hey, let's change what's "good" or "cool".  If I've got more negative, then I'm stylin', man.  Be jealous!!!
LOL.
Haha oh man I took too many somethings a little bit ago, you'll have to ignore me.  ;)
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: sclerogal on June 04, 2013, 10:34 am
Hey Lucky Me!  I got another -16  Karma's overnight!
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: Phillippa Hole on June 04, 2013, 04:02 pm
Hey Lucky Me!  I got another -16  Karma's overnight!

Oh well then, that's it. That must mean you're evil and must be avoided at all costs lol
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: scout on June 04, 2013, 04:19 pm
Jesus Christ, now I'm just getting spammed or whatever the f*ck.  I logged off last night with -12 and wake up to -27.  That's just great.  Thanks a lot people.

this started happening a few weeks back and when it first started, it really upset me.  now that it is still happening, it's less bothersome because it proves there is nothing behind it other than some asshole(s) who are just negging the hell out of a bunch of people here.

don't let it get to you too much - know that it's happening to a LARGE number of members here, including inigo and DPR themselves.  this should tell you that it's nothing personal and nothing you did or said - it's just someone (or multiple someones - who knows!) with too much time on their hands and not enough medication.  ;)

Thx scout.  Honestly I'm to the point where I'm starting to not give a crap.  Or hey, let's change what's "good" or "cool".  If I've got more negative, then I'm stylin', man.  Be jealous!!!
LOL.
Haha oh man I took too many somethings a little bit ago, you'll have to ignore me.  ;)

totally understandable.  on my other account, i made it to +100 without a single negative karma point!  this account ... not so much.  when i got my first few negs, it did get to me slightly, but by this point, it no longer bothers me. 
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: DjThmThm on June 04, 2013, 04:20 pm
Another newb aboard SR
Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: 95sc on June 04, 2013, 05:24 pm
After reading through this post it seems that positive Karma is dished out fairly while negative is, at times, dumped on people with little justification.  If someone has a high positive number that's about all I need to see and I'll assume that they have probably been active and helpful on the board.  A negative number I'm aware of but really don't give it much credit.

Title: Re: Why do newbies get all this negative Karma? I don't understand!
Post by: oooooner on June 08, 2013, 04:35 pm
Hey Lucky Me!  I got another -16  Karma's overnight!

It's been over 72 hours (that's the wait time between giving the same person karma again) so I upped you another Karma point, pal.  ;)