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Title: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: sclerogal on May 31, 2013, 06:41 pm
I can't figure out why I got -14 Karma's since last night?  I haven't posted anything controversial, or started some obscure debate.  I don't get it?  I've been nice.
Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: flakesmith on May 31, 2013, 06:44 pm
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=166486.msg1181567#msg1181567
Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: Libertas on May 31, 2013, 07:14 pm
I can't figure out why I got -14 Karma's since last night?  I haven't posted anything controversial, or started some obscure debate.  I don't get it?  I've been nice.

14 seems to be the common number with people getting negative karma, so it is apparent that there is a member with 14 accounts / a few members with a few accounts each and they're using them to award negative karma for some strange reason. Some people get their kicks by living life to the max, others get their kicks from getting 14 accounts up to 100 posts on an anonymous forum so as they can hand out anonymous internet points.

Don't worry too much about it - somebody's just being an idiot and trying to annoy people on the forums.

Libertas
Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: Razorspyne on May 31, 2013, 08:25 pm
Well, I tried to talk about this issue here: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=160934.0

Unfortunately, the thread was locked by Libertas. :-\ As to the conspiracy theory that that this is coming from ONE person, well, if you can believe that, you're not very intelligent. :-\ I already explained this though on my locked thread.

Given the fact that samesame was caught negging PrincessHIGH 14 times in 30 seconds for a post he didn't like, and that you have been negged 14 times in one shot, well, I will leave you to form your own conclusions. I tried to look into it but it seems that every time an issue is brought up that offends one or more mods, the thread is locked isn't it Lib?

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: Limetless on May 31, 2013, 08:26 pm
It's a number, who cares. I get negged loads and I don't winge, dunno why this has become such a big deal of late.
Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: Razorspyne on May 31, 2013, 08:27 pm
I have given you +1 b/c I am tired of this mod negging, it is very petty, it needs to stop, and you need to realise that there are good people on this forum beside the haters.

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: Libertas on May 31, 2013, 08:33 pm
Well, I tried to talk about this issue here: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=160934.0

Unfortunately, the thread was locked by Libertas. :-\ As to the conspiracy theory that that this is coming from ONE person, well, if you can believe that, you're not very intelligent. :-\ I already explained this though on my locked thread.

Given the fact that samesame was caught negging PrincessHIGH 14 times in 30 seconds for a post he didn't like, and that you have been negged 14 times in one shot, well, I will leave you to form your own conclusions. I tried to look into it but it seems that every time an issue is brought up that offends one or more mods, the thread is locked isn't it Lib?

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.

My reasons for locking the thread were stated very clearly in it, Razorspyne. I also stated that anybody was free to PM me if they had a problem with my locking it. You have not done that, therefore I consider the matter closed on your end. I will not be engaging you on this topic in the public forums again.

Libertas
Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: Razorspyne on May 31, 2013, 08:34 pm
It's a number, who cares. I get negged loads and I don't winge, dunno why this has become such a big deal of late.

I guess it becomes a problem when mods do it to a respected member repeatedly for a single post. If we cannot post freely on the forum without being negged to high heaven for something they disagree with personally, and then they start locking threads, and banning members over it, then yes, I'd say that's a problem. That means censorship of the worst kind, which is ironically what Lib said she was so against. Since posting, my karma has gonne up 4 times in the last minute, so go figure. It just looks unprofessional.

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: Limetless on May 31, 2013, 08:35 pm
It's a number, who cares. I get negged loads and I don't winge, dunno why this has become such a big deal of late.

I guess it becomes a problem when mods do it to a respected member repeatedly for a single post. If we cannot post freely on the forum without being negged to high heaven for something they disagree with personally, and then they start locking threads, and banning members over it, then yes, I'd say that's a problem. That means censorship of the worst kind, which is ironically what Lib said she was so against. Since posting, my karma has gonne up 4 times in the last minute, so go figure. It just looks unprofessional.

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.

Maybe you got negged coz you pissed someone off/annoyed someone. Just get over it lol. It's just a number.
Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: Limetless on May 31, 2013, 08:37 pm
I will not be engaging you on this topic in the public forums again.

Libertas

Lib you are so sexy when you talk with authority.... ;D....
Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: jackofspades on May 31, 2013, 08:39 pm
Yeah i was hit 14 times as well, wow, i barely had the time to get my own account up to 100 posts. Someone did that 14 times...
lol at "anonymous internet points" idk why it does piss me off, i know they don't correlate to anything important but it bugs me that people do this.

I wouldnt care as much if i had the +karma that you did @Limetless haha.

Oh well life goes on.
Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: Limetless on May 31, 2013, 08:40 pm
I wouldnt care as much if i had the +karma that you did @Limetless haha.

Oh well life goes on.

Lol I like the amount of negative karma I have to be honest, means ya not afraid to say what ya think and not mince around.
Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: Razorspyne on May 31, 2013, 08:41 pm
Well, I tried to talk about this issue here: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=160934.0

Unfortunately, the thread was locked by Libertas. :-\ As to the conspiracy theory that that this is coming from ONE person, well, if you can believe that, you're not very intelligent. :-\ I already explained this though on my locked thread.

Given the fact that samesame was caught negging PrincessHIGH 14 times in 30 seconds for a post he didn't like, and that you have been negged 14 times in one shot, well, I will leave you to form your own conclusions. I tried to look into it but it seems that every time an issue is brought up that offends one or more mods, the thread is locked isn't it Lib?

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.

My reasons for locking the thread were stated very clearly in it, Razorspyne. I also stated that anybody was free to PM me if they had a problem with my locking it. You have not done that, therefore I consider the matter closed on your end. I will not be engaging you on this topic in the public forums again.

Libertas

Yes you said we were all arguing, which has never been used as a reason to lock a thread before. Not even trolling threads get locked, or the child pornography threads. Why would someone allow a rape thread up as well as child porn, and then lock an intelligent debate about negging? One would wonder.

The person who was derailing my thread was samesame, and the evidence is there if you look at his posts. So if you had an issue with members not talking about the original topic then why didn't you talk to him?

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: Limetless on May 31, 2013, 08:42 pm
There is no such thing as an intelligent debate about receiving negative karma. It has not and never will exist.
Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: Razorspyne on May 31, 2013, 08:46 pm
I wouldnt care as much if i had the +karma that you did @Limetless haha.

Oh well life goes on.

Lol I like the amount of negative karma I have to be honest, means ya not afraid to say what ya think and not mince around.

Well, I guess it depends on ratio. Some people just troll. You got both though so it evens out a little. (You see a moderator with -140 and you start wondering about them.)

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: Limetless on May 31, 2013, 08:47 pm
I wouldnt care as much if i had the +karma that you did @Limetless haha.

Oh well life goes on.

Lol I like the amount of negative karma I have to be honest, means ya not afraid to say what ya think and not mince around.

Well, I guess it depends on ratio. Some people just troll. You got both though so it evens out a little. (You see a moderator with -140 and you start wondering about them.)

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.

Lol I respect Mods with fair bit of neg karma more because it probably means they wont take shit which is what this place needs.
Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: Limetless on May 31, 2013, 08:48 pm
And also, my neg karma spiked most when I was a Mod and I wasn't afraid to say what I thought. That's what you need in a Mod.
Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: Razorspyne on May 31, 2013, 08:56 pm
It's a number, who cares. I get negged loads and I don't winge, dunno why this has become such a big deal of late.

I guess it becomes a problem when mods do it to a respected member repeatedly for a single post. If we cannot post freely on the forum without being negged to high heaven for something they disagree with personally, and then they start locking threads, and banning members over it, then yes, I'd say that's a problem. That means censorship of the worst kind, which is ironically what Lib said she was so against. Since posting, my karma has gonne up 4 times in the last minute, so go figure. It just looks unprofessional.

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.

Maybe you got negged coz you pissed someone off/annoyed someone. Just get over it lol. It's just a number.

But I am not like you Lim, I don't piss people off on the forum. I got negged when a mod didn't like what I wrote b/c they couldn't think of a reply. It's not like I am a troll. And it isn't a number if you a vendor, it dictates sales to some degree. As for getting over it, I just started a thread, it wasn't like I was waking up with tears over it.

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: Limetless on May 31, 2013, 08:58 pm
It's a number, who cares. I get negged loads and I don't winge, dunno why this has become such a big deal of late.

I guess it becomes a problem when mods do it to a respected member repeatedly for a single post. If we cannot post freely on the forum without being negged to high heaven for something they disagree with personally, and then they start locking threads, and banning members over it, then yes, I'd say that's a problem. That means censorship of the worst kind, which is ironically what Lib said she was so against. Since posting, my karma has gonne up 4 times in the last minute, so go figure. It just looks unprofessional.

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.

Maybe you got negged coz you pissed someone off/annoyed someone. Just get over it lol. It's just a number.

But I am not like you Lim, I don't piss people off on the forum. I got negged when a mod didn't like what I wrote b/c they couldn't think of a reply. It's not like I am a troll. And it isn't a number if you a vendor, it dictates sales to some degree. As for getting over it, I just started a thread, it wasn't like I was waking up with tears over it.

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.

Lol well ya clearly pissed someone off. And Mod's should be totally free to neg stuff they don't like, they are allowed to have an opinion too. And LOL it has nothing to do with sales, it's all forum presence. I don't sell half as much as the top 1% and I have the most karma here. Isn't anything to do with sales.
Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: Razorspyne on May 31, 2013, 09:03 pm
I wouldnt care as much if i had the +karma that you did @Limetless haha.

Oh well life goes on.

Lol I like the amount of negative karma I have to be honest, means ya not afraid to say what ya think and not mince around.

Well, I guess it depends on ratio. Some people just troll. You got both though so it evens out a little. (You see a moderator with -140 and you start wondering about them.)

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.

Lol I respect Mods with fair bit of neg karma more because it probably means they wont take shit which is what this place needs.

Hmm, well, I certainly don't see it the same way b/c it means there is a lack of tact and diplomacy, which is sometimes a liability in some ways. If a mod is too busy flaming then it sometimes means they are not doing modding, like answering tech questions and assisting people.

And also, my neg karma spiked most when I was a Mod and I wasn't afraid to say what I thought. That's what you need in a Mod.

I can't reply to that or Lib will lock this thread. No I'm serious, she will. And I can't be bothered with the PM thing.::) Weird how they didn't lock rape threads and child porn ones, I wonder if there is a taboo fantasy at play here....

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: scout on May 31, 2013, 09:03 pm
OP - you didn't say anything, there are just users who either have too much time on their hands (and maybe should do something else with them - like fuck off) or have found a way to take advantage of the karma system.  Either way, it's nothing that you said - this mass-negging has been happening to many of us over the last few weeks (including inigo and DPR who don't even post often).
Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: Limetless on May 31, 2013, 09:05 pm
I wouldnt care as much if i had the +karma that you did @Limetless haha.

Oh well life goes on.

Lol I like the amount of negative karma I have to be honest, means ya not afraid to say what ya think and not mince around.

Well, I guess it depends on ratio. Some people just troll. You got both though so it evens out a little. (You see a moderator with -140 and you start wondering about them.)

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.

Lol I respect Mods with fair bit of neg karma more because it probably means they wont take shit which is what this place needs.

Hmm, well, I certainly don't see it the same way b/c it means there is a lack of tact and diplomacy, which is sometimes a liability in some ways. If a mod is too busy flaming then it sometimes means they are not doing modding, like answering tech questions and assisting people.

And also, my neg karma spiked most when I was a Mod and I wasn't afraid to say what I thought. That's what you need in a Mod.

I can't reply to that or Lib will lock this thread. No I'm serious, she will. And I can't be bothered with the PM thing.::) Weird how they didn't lock rape threads and child porn ones, I wonder if there is a taboo fantasy at play here....

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.

Tact and diplomacy are good up to a point but it doesn't work in the long run.

And you are out of order with your last comment, completely lost your argument now I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: joywind on May 31, 2013, 09:08 pm
set up one account where you say controversial stuff, state your true beliefs about things, and be independent minded. you'll get lots of negative karma.

set up another account where you are nice, agree with everyone, and practice conformism. that'll get you lots of positive rep.
Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: Razorspyne on May 31, 2013, 09:11 pm
It's a number, who cares. I get negged loads and I don't winge, dunno why this has become such a big deal of late.

I guess it becomes a problem when mods do it to a respected member repeatedly for a single post. If we cannot post freely on the forum without being negged to high heaven for something they disagree with personally, and then they start locking threads, and banning members over it, then yes, I'd say that's a problem. That means censorship of the worst kind, which is ironically what Lib said she was so against. Since posting, my karma has gonne up 4 times in the last minute, so go figure. It just looks unprofessional.

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.

Maybe you got negged coz you pissed someone off/annoyed someone. Just get over it lol. It's just a number.

But I am not like you Lim, I don't piss people off on the forum. I got negged when a mod didn't like what I wrote b/c they couldn't think of a reply. It's not like I am a troll. And it isn't a number if you a vendor, it dictates sales to some degree. As for getting over it, I just started a thread, it wasn't like I was waking up with tears over it.

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.

Lol well ya clearly pissed someone off. And Mod's should be totally free to neg stuff they don't like, they are allowed to have an opinion too. And LOL it has nothing to do with sales, it's all forum presence. I don't sell half as much as the top 1% and I have the most karma here. Isn't anything to do with sales.

Nope, I didn't piss anyone off. I'm not an idiot, I know who has been negging everyone here. Of course mods should be allowed to neg, I think they should be able to neg and I wouldn't have it any other way. But you are missing the point. There's a big bloody difference between a single neg to a mod clicking repeatedly 14 times on a respected forum member in 30 seconds b/c of a post they couldn't answer. That is just pathetic and small balled IMAHO. He should be demodded and an age limit set for modding here. If the dope next door can mod on Silk Road forums then how are they supposed to be any good?

Anyway, if mods want to lock my thread for such silly reasons and neg a long time member 14 times, I feel sorry for him.

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: Limetless on May 31, 2013, 09:12 pm
Well you did piss someone off coz I negged you just a minute ago because of how retarded all this is. :)
Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: Razorspyne on May 31, 2013, 09:14 pm
I wouldnt care as much if i had the +karma that you did @Limetless haha.

Oh well life goes on.

Lol I like the amount of negative karma I have to be honest, means ya not afraid to say what ya think and not mince around.

Well, I guess it depends on ratio. Some people just troll. You got both though so it evens out a little. (You see a moderator with -140 and you start wondering about them.)

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.

Lol I respect Mods with fair bit of neg karma more because it probably means they wont take shit which is what this place needs.

Hmm, well, I certainly don't see it the same way b/c it means there is a lack of tact and diplomacy, which is sometimes a liability in some ways. If a mod is too busy flaming then it sometimes means they are not doing modding, like answering tech questions and assisting people.

And also, my neg karma spiked most when I was a Mod and I wasn't afraid to say what I thought. That's what you need in a Mod.

I can't reply to that or Lib will lock this thread. No I'm serious, she will. And I can't be bothered with the PM thing.::) Weird how they didn't lock rape threads and child porn ones, I wonder if there is a taboo fantasy at play here....

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.

Tact and diplomacy are good up to a point but it doesn't work in the long run.

And you are out of order with your last comment, completely lost your argument now I'm afraid.

Which comment? And when is a debate decided won or lost over a single comment? Must have been a pretty bad comment!

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: Limetless on May 31, 2013, 09:18 pm
I wouldnt care as much if i had the +karma that you did @Limetless haha.

Oh well life goes on.

Lol I like the amount of negative karma I have to be honest, means ya not afraid to say what ya think and not mince around.

Well, I guess it depends on ratio. Some people just troll. You got both though so it evens out a little. (You see a moderator with -140 and you start wondering about them.)

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.

Lol I respect Mods with fair bit of neg karma more because it probably means they wont take shit which is what this place needs.

Hmm, well, I certainly don't see it the same way b/c it means there is a lack of tact and diplomacy, which is sometimes a liability in some ways. If a mod is too busy flaming then it sometimes means they are not doing modding, like answering tech questions and assisting people.

And also, my neg karma spiked most when I was a Mod and I wasn't afraid to say what I thought. That's what you need in a Mod.

I can't reply to that or Lib will lock this thread. No I'm serious, she will. And I can't be bothered with the PM thing.::) Weird how they didn't lock rape threads and child porn ones, I wonder if there is a taboo fantasy at play here....

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.

Tact and diplomacy are good up to a point but it doesn't work in the long run.

And you are out of order with your last comment, completely lost your argument now I'm afraid.

Which comment? And when is a debate decided won or lost over a single comment? Must have been a pretty bad comment!

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.

Wasn't any specific comment, was just how much this load of shit has been dragged out. Feel free to neg me back, in fact please do!
Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: scout on May 31, 2013, 09:20 pm
Raz - you are a smart guy, so how are you not putting 1 and 1 together?  People all over the forums are being negged around 14x over the course of a few minutes.  People who have said nothing wrong, done nothing wrong, and some who have not even posted lately (DPR and inigo, for example).  Are you seriously of the belief that me, SSBD, and Libertas are sitting here all day long negging random members 14 times for shits and giggles?  Give me a break.  Princess receiving -14 is part of this same pattern - it was NOT me, it was NOT SSBD, it was NOT Libertas.  DPR and inigo rarely post here and yet they, too, have been part of this mass-negging.

Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: Limetless on May 31, 2013, 09:21 pm
It was me.....
Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: Razorspyne on May 31, 2013, 09:21 pm
Well you did piss someone off coz I negged you just a minute ago because of how retarded all this is. :)

Not as retarded as you negging me and then actually telling me you did so I could neg you back. :)

Happy trails. ;)
Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: Limetless on May 31, 2013, 09:22 pm
Was definitely, totally, 100%, because I have nothing better to do with my time, and I'm gay, and retarded, and have Alzheimer's, without a shadow of a doubt me.....
Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: Limetless on May 31, 2013, 09:24 pm
Well you did piss someone off coz I negged you just a minute ago because of how retarded all this is. :)

Not as retarded as you negging me and then actually telling me you did so I could neg you back. :)

Happy trails. ;)

Maybe, but definitely not as retarded about making a thread to moan about your karma score so I'm cool with taking a -1 for the team.
Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: Razorspyne on May 31, 2013, 09:28 pm
I wouldnt care as much if i had the +karma that you did @Limetless haha.

Oh well life goes on.

Lol I like the amount of negative karma I have to be honest, means ya not afraid to say what ya think and not mince around.

Well, I guess it depends on ratio. Some people just troll. You got both though so it evens out a little. (You see a moderator with -140 and you start wondering about them.)

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.

Lol I respect Mods with fair bit of neg karma more because it probably means they wont take shit which is what this place needs.

Hmm, well, I certainly don't see it the same way b/c it means there is a lack of tact and diplomacy, which is sometimes a liability in some ways. If a mod is too busy flaming then it sometimes means they are not doing modding, like answering tech questions and assisting people.

And also, my neg karma spiked most when I was a Mod and I wasn't afraid to say what I thought. That's what you need in a Mod.

I can't reply to that or Lib will lock this thread. No I'm serious, she will. And I can't be bothered with the PM thing.::) Weird how they didn't lock rape threads and child porn ones, I wonder if there is a taboo fantasy at play here....

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.

Tact and diplomacy are good up to a point but it doesn't work in the long run.

And you are out of order with your last comment, completely lost your argument now I'm afraid.

Which comment? And when is a debate decided won or lost over a single comment? Must have been a pretty bad comment!

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.

Wasn't any specific comment, was just how much this load of shit has been dragged out. Feel free to neg me back, in fact please do!

Okay! ;) -1 Limetless

Piece, Love, and Hate Haters.
Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: jackofspades on May 31, 2013, 09:29 pm
Well you did piss someone off coz I negged you just a minute ago because of how retarded all this is. :)

Not as retarded as you negging me and then actually telling me you did so I could neg you back. :)

Happy trails. ;)

Maybe, but definitely not as retarded about making a thread to moan about your karma score so I'm cool with taking a -1 for the team.

This is retarded, someone shouldve locked this.
Title: Re: Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
Post by: scout on May 31, 2013, 09:39 pm
This is clearly a widespread issue of mass-negging.  However much some of you want to believe the conspiracies you've come up with, the fact of the matter is that your conspiracies are not based in reality this time.  At the same time, it's clear you won't be convinced, so what is the point in any of us trying to defend against your accusations?  If you're not going to listen, then there's nothing more we can do, but I'm tired of trying to defend myself and the other mods to people who are going to think what they want to think regardless of the truth.

This thread has once again devolved into useless drivel and baseless accusations so at this point I say: believe what you want.  It's a shame though because this is probably exactly what the mass-negging people wanted to see happen.  :-\