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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: phoboss on May 24, 2013, 11:52 am
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Hi all I'm here just to say that buyers should have a round table on vendors too cos I'm sure there's some real childish vendors who will deal with a buyer F, the buyer then go back to the vendors round table and spread lies about you to stop other vendors dealing with you this is why I think a buyers round table or section should be born so that we as buyers can explain fully on every transaction that went wrong so that some childish lying vendors don't stand a chance to go back and lie what do you lot think why should the vendors have a so called round table section where we the buyers can't see or read what's being said it's not fair so I think one should be born asap for buyers too which in turn gives the vendor a chance to respond so EVERYONE can read it ok let me know what you think people cheers, phoboss.
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So basically you want a website that offers some kind of forum / discussion based tools... kind of like.. this one.... ?
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No a specific area where vendors cannot see what we're saying about them like we the buyers can't see into their vendors round table like a problem area where things actually get solved not he say she say didn't you understand fully or grasp what I was saying ie why have the vendors got a round table so they can say what they want without us seeing it now do you understand if not never mind ok
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ah ok I see what you mean now.
I dunno if we really need that. It's sometimes good to hear both sides of the story. just my opinion though :)
One problem, how would you stop vendors from making normal user accounts to see what's been said ?
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How would you keep vendors out?
You can just create a new account, spam to 50 and shazaaam, you're a regular SR forum account guy/gal.
I think this forum IS the roundtable, as we can review vendors openly. Vendors can defend themselves, but really it's the weight of many voices that will change opinions of a vendor, no matter how much they plead their innocence in scams, etc.
I understand why you want what you think you want, but I just don't see it being very effective.... I'm always reading stories about how such and such a person has been buying here and is opening a vendor account. So it's pretty easy to think that many vendors are also buyers.
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Sounds like "The Rumor Mill" ?
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They should open the Vendor Round Table to all. There should be no secrets here.
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I don't really see a need for this. Buyers already have a place (this forum) to talk about issues. The vendors that are doing all the hard work to bring us our orders are the ones that need a specific place for them so they can discuss whatever they need to discuss in order to protect themselves and others.
Also, I'm quite sure that there is a bit more scamming happening to the vendors than to the buyers on a regular basis. Which again just reiterates why vendors need a specific private place to alert other vendors.
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I don't really see a need for this. Buyers already have a place (this forum) to talk about issues. The vendors that are doing all the hard work to bring us our orders are the ones that need a specific place for them so they can discuss whatever they need to discuss in order to protect themselves and others.
Also, I'm quite sure that there is a bit more scamming happening to the vendors than to the buyers on a regular basis. Which again just reiterates why vendors need a specific private place to alert other vendors.
Also the vendors are at the mercy of customers feedback ratings. Both on SR and here on the forums. They are more accountable to criticism than a buyer would be. Let them have their little roundtable.
Also, if buyers just shit on vendors privately, the vendors will have no recourse to fix the issues and try to better their business. If a vendor does something wrong, they should be told so the issue can be sorted and prevented in the future.
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but who's a buyer and who's a seller? how would you spot the diff?
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How would you keep vendors out?
You can just create a new account, spam to 50 and shazaaam, you're a regular SR forum account guy/gal.
I think this forum IS the roundtable, as we can review vendors openly. Vendors can defend themselves, but really it's the weight of many voices that will change opinions of a vendor, no matter how much they plead their innocence in scams, etc.
I understand why you want what you think you want, but I just don't see it being very effective.... I'm always reading stories about how such and such a person has been buying here and is opening a vendor account. So it's pretty easy to think that many vendors are also buyers.
^This.
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Vendors don't arbitrarily report users unless there is a legitimate reason (attempt to scam, unjustified low feedback, etc). And there is a reason why Vendor's Roundtable is for VENDORS ONLY -- it allows us to blacklist detrimental users without them knowing so they can be stopped.
Vendors need to have recourse for these kind of lucrative scams, and the Vendor's Roundtable is the only way to fight against the scammers.
If you are an honest Silk Road customer, then you shouldn't have anything to worry about.
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Vendors don't arbitrarily report users unless there is a legitimate reason (attempt to scam, unjustified low feedback, etc). And there is a reason why Vendor's Roundtable is for VENDORS ONLY -- it allows us to blacklist detrimental users without them knowing so they can be stopped.
Vendors need to have recourse for these kind of lucrative scams, and the Vendor's Roundtable is the only way to fight against the scammers.
If you are an honest Silk Road customer, then you shouldn't have anything to worry about.
It should also be noted that buyer details are not posted anywhere, only usernames.
Libertas
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i totally agree with the vendor roundtable. i am not a vendor but they def have to take alot
more of the risk in the transaction. thats a tool for them to at least try and combat the scamming.
for us we have the rumor mill and feedback. what more do you really need?
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The Vendor Roundtable isn't that much of a shady place where vendors conspire against poor customers. It's more about vendors trying to reach other vendors and cooperate. I have learned many things from other vendors kind enough to share their knowledge that have later been directly or directly implemented into my business. I have yet to see any kind of conspiracy there...so I don't see much use for a customer Roundtable...that of course I would join with my other non-vendor account I have here.
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Sounds like "The Rumor Mill" ?
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If you're an honest buyer, theres no need to fear the round table :D
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What on earth is the roundtable? :o
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You have a Roundtable. It's just named Silk Road Forums.
You're welcome.
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What on earth is the roundtable? :o
Section of the forum only accessible to vendors.
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No a specific area where vendors cannot see what we're saying about them like we the buyers can't see into their vendors round table like a problem area where things actually get solved not he say she say didn't you understand fully or grasp what I was saying ie why have the vendors got a round table so they can say what they want without us seeing it now do you understand if not never mind ok
I am a vendor and I also have a buyer account, as 99% of vendors do.
If you want to have private conversations, do it via PM.
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Call them out but due them the courtesy of supporting or providing evidence of their negligence
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They should open the Vendor Round Table to all. There should be no secrets here.
No. There needs to be a special section for vendors so we can talk about scamming buyers or problems we may have all had. For example, one vendor might notice a lot more mail than normal hasn't arrived and want to check to see if this has been happening to other vendors. it doesn't need buyers clogging up the post with their stories of what's arrived and what hasn't.
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There needs to be a special section for vendors so we can talk about scamming buyers...
And by "scamming buyers" I am pretty sure you mean talking about buyers who are attempting to scam vendors. At least I hop you are. If not, please let me in on the scam! :)
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There needs to be a special section for vendors so we can talk about scamming buyers...
And by "scamming buyers" I am pretty sure you mean talking about buyers who are attempting to scam vendors. At least I hop you are. If not, please let me in on the scam! :)
Haha yes, buyers who try and scam vendors. The vendor forum is an asset for us.
I don't know about you, but I get more than enough scam attempts.
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Lol, there is no way the buyers should have a roundtable. They have no need for one, this whole forum is the buyers roundtable.
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As many people have reiterated, it would be entirely pointless to have a 'buyers roundtable'. In essence, this whole forum, particularly 'the rumor mill' act as a buyers roundtable.
To the person who commented saying most vendors probably are buyers as well, this is very true. I am a relatively new vendor and I started as an SR buyer over 7 months ago. I still buy items all the time. If I ever have an issue I would post about it in the rumor mill, leave bad feedback, or in some circumstances bring it up with resolution centre.
As far as the vendor's round table goes... well I was just granted access to it and it's not like its anything special. It's basically a place where we can share information that is relevant to ensure that SR mantains itself. The scammers list is priceless. For a pretty new vendor like me who is only just starting to get scammed. (buyer mantains he never received 2 oz yet is located same province and I have over 90 confirmed transactions none missing. he also admitted his landlord checks his mail for him) it is a really great place.
You have to remember, vendors are taking immaculate risk in doing what they do, and they also have to deal with the escrow system. They are very easily scammed and must take precautions against this to keep their business running.
To whoever said that all buyers should have access to the vendors table is ridiculous.
So the general public, law enforcement, anyone who's made purchases on SR should be able to see what we our discussing in private TO IMPROVE OUR SERVICES TO YOU?
Absolutely ridiculous.
In all, I think that you guys have a great buyers roundtable. It's called Silk Road Forums.
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Makes me laugh how people think it's like a Masonic guild when it really isn't lol.
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Vendors work hard they deserve a section for privacy and its been beneficial for all so let it be I say.
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As many people have reiterated, it would be entirely pointless to have a 'buyers roundtable'. In essence, this whole forum, particularly 'the rumor mill' act as a buyers roundtable.
To the person who commented saying most vendors probably are buyers as well, this is very true. I am a relatively new vendor and I started as an SR buyer over 7 months ago. I still buy items all the time. If I ever have an issue I would post about it in the rumor mill, leave bad feedback, or in some circumstances bring it up with resolution centre.
As far as the vendor's round table goes... well I was just granted access to it and it's not like its anything special. It's basically a place where we can share information that is relevant to ensure that SR mantains itself. The scammers list is priceless. For a pretty new vendor like me who is only just starting to get scammed. (buyer mantains he never received 2 oz yet is located same province and I have over 90 confirmed transactions none missing. he also admitted his landlord checks his mail for him) it is a really great place.
You have to remember, vendors are taking immaculate risk in doing what they do, and they also have to deal with the escrow system. They are very easily scammed and must take precautions against this to keep their business running.
To whoever said that all buyers should have access to the vendors table is ridiculous.
So the general public, law enforcement, anyone who's made purchases on SR should be able to see what we our discussing in private TO IMPROVE OUR SERVICES TO YOU?
Absolutely ridiculous.
In all, I think that you guys have a great buyers roundtable. It's called Silk Road Forums.
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before I had access to it, I thought the vendor roundtable would be a whole lot more exciting than it is too. It's really not.
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it allows us to blacklist detrimental users without them knowing so they can be stopped.
Then how about we throw the blacklist up here for all to see? Let's make this completely open with no secrets.
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it allows us to blacklist detrimental users without them knowing so they can be stopped.
Then how about we throw the blacklist up here for all to see? Let's make this completely open with no secrets.
It wouldn't work. The scamming buyers would see their name and then write loads of forum posts about how they are not a scammer. There would be hundreds of pages of buyers complaining about being on the list and the whole thread wold be a disastrous mess.
The blacklist thread has NO DISCUSSION. This would not happen if buyers could see it and post on it too.
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Hi all I'm here just to say that buyers should have a round table on vendors too cos I'm sure there's some real childish vendors who will deal with a buyer F, the buyer then go back to the vendors round table and spread lies about you to stop other vendors dealing with you this is why I think a buyers round table or section should be born so that we as buyers can explain fully on every transaction that went wrong so that some childish lying vendors don't stand a chance to go back and lie what do you lot think why should the vendors have a so called round table section where we the buyers can't see or read what's being said it's not fair so I think one should be born asap for buyers too which in turn gives the vendor a chance to respond so EVERYONE can read it ok let me know what you think people cheers, phoboss.
I was going to reply when I noticed this. Stuff it, I'll say it myself, like ProudCannabian said a vendor could easily start a new acc./ and fucktard to 50 and gain access to the buyer's forum. You could not police who is a seller on a shill and who is a legitimate buyer only. It's worth raising the question, b/c sometimes people give some very funny answers to some very funny questions.
They should open the Vendor Round Table to all. There should be no secrets here.
No, I think it's fine the way it is b/c vendors' blacklist is available to them only. IMAHO the forums are just too big to not have a place that is not open to every Tom, Dick and Susan Greyhearth. If a problematic buyer were listed on a public list they could just start over on a new acc./ and continue scheming and scamming unhindered.
That was just 1 reason, for other reasons, just ask someone else or become a vendor. :-X
Lol.
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
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it allows us to blacklist detrimental users without them knowing so they can be stopped.
Then how about we throw the blacklist up here for all to see? Let's make this completely open with no secrets.
It wouldn't work. The scamming buyers would see their name and then write loads of forum posts about how they are not a scammer. There would be hundreds of pages of buyers complaining about being on the list and the whole thread wold be a disastrous mess.
The blacklist thread has NO DISCUSSION. This would not happen if buyers could see it and post on it too.
Why do I sometimes post without reading the middle pages? This is pretty much what I wrote, I was just a little late replying.
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
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it allows us to blacklist detrimental users without them knowing so they can be stopped.
Then how about we throw the blacklist up here for all to see? Let's make this completely open with no secrets.
It wouldn't work. The scamming buyers would see their name and then write loads of forum posts about how they are not a scammer. There would be hundreds of pages of buyers complaining about being on the list and the whole thread wold be a disastrous mess.
The blacklist thread has NO DISCUSSION. This would not happen if buyers could see it and post on it too.
Shouldn't a democratic society work that way? Everyone gets a chance to defend themselves.
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it allows us to blacklist detrimental users without them knowing so they can be stopped.
Then how about we throw the blacklist up here for all to see? Let's make this completely open with no secrets.
It wouldn't work. The scamming buyers would see their name and then write loads of forum posts about how they are not a scammer. There would be hundreds of pages of buyers complaining about being on the list and the whole thread wold be a disastrous mess.
The blacklist thread has NO DISCUSSION. This would not happen if buyers could see it and post on it too.
Shouldn't a democratic society work that way? Everyone gets a chance to defend themselves.
If you were a vendor and saw how much shit that gets given to us by some buyers, you would not want buyers on there either.
The blacklist page/s are only blacklisted buyers. No discussion. if buyers had access to this, there would be hundreds of pages of plea's and complaints mixed in and the list would be impossible to use.
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If you were a vendor and saw how much shit that gets given to us by some buyers, you would not want buyers on there either.
Listen, part of that shit occurs because the vendor didn't communicate things clearly or in a timely manner. If I ask when a pkg was sent it's because I want to know when to expect it.
Anyway, back to the blacklist, it really should be public because if I were on it I'd want to know why.
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If you were a vendor and saw how much shit that gets given to us by some buyers, you would not want buyers on there either.
Listen, part of that shit occurs because the vendor didn't communicate things clearly or in a timely manner. If I ask when a pkg was sent it's because I want to know when to expect it.
Anyway, back to the blacklist, it really should be public because if I were on it I'd want to know why.
Because, as I already said, there would be hundreds of pages of buyers begging to be removed from the blacklist,
Besides, buyers are only ever added to the blacklist if they have attempted to scam a vendor and it is quite obvious, or if they ask to meet in person or if they leave low feedback without reason and fail to respond to messages. If you don't do anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about.
Most of the time, the vendor co-operates with the vendor. And again, you have NO IDEA what some buyers are like to deal with.
People aren't just added to the blacklist without good reason. And even then, a lot of vendors don't even check the blacklist before accepting orders.
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it allows us to blacklist detrimental users without them knowing so they can be stopped.
Then how about we throw the blacklist up here for all to see? Let's make this completely open with no secrets.
It wouldn't work. The scamming buyers would see their name and then write loads of forum posts about how they are not a scammer. There would be hundreds of pages of buyers complaining about being on the list and the whole thread wold be a disastrous mess.
The blacklist thread has NO DISCUSSION. This would not happen if buyers could see it and post on it too.
Shouldn't a democratic society work that way? Everyone gets a chance to defend themselves.
This is not a democratic society, it is a privately owned forum. That being said, it is a privately owned forum that protects freedom of speech and encourages libertarian ideals amongst its members.
As a result of the freedom of speech that is guaranteed here, vendors are entitled to discuss anything they wish within the confines of the Vendor Roundtable - including an informal "blacklist" - as long as it does not compromise the security of any individual.
Libertas
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If you were a vendor and saw how much shit that gets given to us by some buyers, you would not want buyers on there either.
Listen, part of that shit occurs because the vendor didn't communicate things clearly or in a timely manner. If I ask when a pkg was sent it's because I want to know when to expect it.
Anyway, back to the blacklist, it really should be public because if I were on it I'd want to know why.
It should not be public. Then the scammers would immediately make a new account and continue scamming. How is it a vendor's fault when they are being blackmailed for free drugs? When a customer threatens to change all of their previous feedback to 1/5 or lies and says an order was short? Just file an FOIA Request to find out who is on the blacklist.
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It should not be public. Then the scammers would immediately make a new account and continue scamming. How is it a vendor's fault when they are being blackmailed for free drugs? When a customer threatens to change all of their previous feedback to 1/5 or lies and says an order was short? Just file an FOIA Request to find out who is on the blacklist.
If your a scamming buyer and are on the blacklist, you would probably find out soon enough anyway when you try to place an order and it keeps getting cancelled. In that case, you'd just make a new account and scam away on that one.
It does take a special kind of asshole to try and scam a vendor though. I feel as though the vendors I use are providing me with a real quality service. I respect that and am happy to give them good feedback and repeat orders.
Also, the FOIA comment made me laugh.
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This is not a democratic society, it is a privately owned forum. That being said, it is a privately owned forum that protects freedom of speech and encourages libertarian ideals amongst its members.
Erm.... sorry but when you go around locking threads you take issue to and leaving weak explanations that people admit they find hard to believe, well, you might not be believed on that one. Shame you turned out the way you did, I feel a little foolish actually. Anyway, whatever.
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
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I've gone over the 3 pages to my OP so far and I still think a spiteful vendor or childish vendor could easily blacklist someone at the drop of a hat when in actual fact the buyer has really done nothing wrong this is what pees me off the only logical answers I've had is let everyone see into the vendors round table and this wouldn't be a problem in my eyes as every order has a time date order number etc etc anyway to the vendor or vendors who said they've got a vendors account and a buyers account I'd just like to ask those this, what are you hiding???? Or what are you protecting???? Other than that thanks to all who got involved and spoke their minds cheers, phoboss.
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to the vendor or vendors who said they've got a vendors account and a buyers account I'd just like to ask those this, what are you hiding???? Or what are you protecting????
Are you serious? You can't be serious... There is no way that you are serious.
They say there is no such thing as dumb question but I beg to differ. This is a very dumb question, so dumb that I am not even going to answer it.
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Hi all I'm here just to say that buyers should have a round table on vendors too cos I'm sure there's some real childish vendors who will deal with a buyer F, the buyer then go back to the vendors round table and spread lies about you to stop other vendors dealing with you this is why I think a buyers round table or section should be born so that we as buyers can explain fully on every transaction that went wrong so that some childish lying vendors don't stand a chance to go back and lie what do you lot think why should the vendors have a so called round table section where we the buyers can't see or read what's being said it's not fair so I think one should be born asap for buyers too which in turn gives the vendor a chance to respond so EVERYONE can read it ok let me know what you think people cheers, phoboss.
Ok, let's start migrating the blacklist to the open forums. I'll go first.
The buyer who started this thread, phoboss/ivgotu41, is a sociopath. You can discover for yourself by reading his posting history, much of which is aimed at discrediting me. By his own admission he was scammed by responding to an unsolicited email (6 months ago outside SR) from someone claiming to be me, using ukash (I've never used ukash) for $300 (I do deals in the thousands). He also has a track record for pissing off heroin vendors in the roundtable. Avoid him at all costs.
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i feel like if you want to see the list that bad,become a vendor and go through all the
bs to get into the vendor forums,deal with missing orders,scammers etc... also i feel like if you
are on the list you should already have an idea cause of how things have been going.
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Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeohh oh oh ok den boss me do it boss????
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I've gone over the 3 pages to my OP so far and I still think a spiteful vendor or childish vendor could easily blacklist someone at the drop of a hat when in actual fact the buyer has really done nothing wrong this is what pees me off the only logical answers I've had is let everyone see into the vendors round table and this wouldn't be a problem in my eyes as every order has a time date order number etc etc anyway to the vendor or vendors who said they've got a vendors account and a buyers account I'd just like to ask those this, what are you hiding???? Or what are you protecting???? Other than that thanks to all who got involved and spoke their minds cheers, phoboss.
You have got to be kidding?
No vendor with half a brain would buy from the same account. Then the vendor they bought off would know approximately where they live. Buyer and seller accounts should never be linked.
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This is not a democratic society, it is a privately owned forum. That being said, it is a privately owned forum that protects freedom of speech and encourages libertarian ideals amongst its members.
Erm.... sorry but when you go around locking threads you take issue to and leaving weak explanations that people admit they find hard to believe, well, you might not be believed on that one. Shame you turned out the way you did, I feel a little foolish actually. Anyway, whatever.
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
I do not lock threads that I take issue with. I lock threads if they have gone completely off topic and have run their course. You're looking increasingly foolish indeed, Razorspyne, so your feelings seem to be accurate.
Libertas
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This is not a democratic society, it is a privately owned forum. That being said, it is a privately owned forum that protects freedom of speech and encourages libertarian ideals amongst its members.
Erm.... sorry but when you go around locking threads you take issue to and leaving weak explanations that people admit they find hard to believe, well, you might not be believed on that one. Shame you turned out the way you did, I feel a little foolish actually. Anyway, whatever.
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
I do not lock threads that I take issue with. I lock threads if they have gone completely off topic and have run their course. You're looking increasingly foolish indeed, Razorspyne, so your feelings seem to be accurate.
Libertas
Why are you still following my every post and trolling? As a mod, you should be more concerned with spam busting and tech section than following some member around and insulting them. You really need to change this attitude as you are not doing yourself any favours. No one respects a mod who uses their position to personally attack someone, it just makes you look weak and predatorial, rather than a fair and impartial moderator. If you have such a huge issue with me, spit it out or leave me alone, if you are going to provoke people in this way perhaps you should get off the forums.
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
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This is not a democratic society, it is a privately owned forum. That being said, it is a privately owned forum that protects freedom of speech and encourages libertarian ideals amongst its members.
Erm.... sorry but when you go around locking threads you take issue to and leaving weak explanations that people admit they find hard to believe, well, you might not be believed on that one. Shame you turned out the way you did, I feel a little foolish actually. Anyway, whatever.
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
I do not lock threads that I take issue with. I lock threads if they have gone completely off topic and have run their course. You're looking increasingly foolish indeed, Razorspyne, so your feelings seem to be accurate.
Libertas
Why are you still following my every post and trolling? As a mod, you should be more concerned with spam busting and tech section than following some member around and insulting them. You really need to change this attitude as you are not doing yourself any favours. No one respects a mod who uses their position to personally attack someone, it just makes you look weak and predatorial, rather than a fair and impartial moderator. If you have such a huge issue with me, spit it out or leave me alone, if you are going to provoke people in this way perhaps you should get off the forums.
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Sorry Razorspyne,but the moderators lives don't revolve around you. If you have an issue with me, feel free to PM me to discuss it. Otherwise, you can always put me on your ignore list. :)
Libertas
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That's what you get when you flamebait a mod son. What do you expect? Stop flamebait spamming the mods and they won't feel the need to defend against it.
It's like you're shit disturbing to try to cause a revolt. You one of them Atlantis people?
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That's what you get when you flamebait a mod son. What do you expect? Stop flamebait spamming the mods and they won't feel the need to defend against it.
It's like you're shit disturbing to try to cause a revolt. You one of them Atlantis people?
Thanks for the support, mojorizen!
Libertas
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That's what you get when you flamebait a mod son. What do you expect? Stop flamebait spamming the mods and they won't feel the need to defend against it.
It's like you're shit disturbing to try to cause a revolt. You one of them Atlantis people?
Hmm, sorry who are you? Sorry, could you say it louder? Nope, I've never even heard of you before. Listen sport, if you don't know the case at hand, don't interrupt as it makes you look stupid when you have to be corrected.
Say... you aren't one of those Atlantis people?
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
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Libertas what are you trying to achieve? dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=167248.0 Raz didn't create this thread, this is defamatory.
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Libertas what are you trying to achieve? dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=167248.0 Raz didn't create this thread, this is defamatory.
I'm attempting a method of creating discussion around issues that are brought up in threads that are being taken off topic by splitting those posts into their own topics. There is no need to derail multiple threads with the same discussion - this way nobody's freedom of speech is being infringed upon, no threads will need to be considered as 'needing to be locked', and the discussion can continue in both threads without impeding free discussion for all. If this doesn't work out and fails to keep everybody happy by ensuring that all discussion remains free, open and on-topic all at the same time, the threads will be merged back into their original topics (which is why I referenced them in the title).
Unfortunately due to the way that the thread split feature works, the first post split is seen by the forum software as the thread starter; it is not "defamatory" as nobody is being defamed.
The reason that my post which Razorspyne quoted in his response (the initial post in this thread) was not brought into this thread is because it was replying to a poster stating that "this is not how a democratic society works" in regards to having a closed Vendor Roundtable. Razorspyne's post was completely off topic, and was carrying on his opinions from numerous other threads - having nothing to do with the issue of the Vendor Roundtable being a closed forum.
I assure you that if this doesn't work out, the threads will be returned to their original topics. This is simply a way to try and keep everybody happy and ensure freedom of speech whilst also ensuring that discussion can take place on the issues at hand, and discussion can also take place on the off topic issue.
Community members are complaining that mods "aren't doing their jobs", but then when we are seen to be doing our jobs people complain about that as well.. ???
Libertas
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Libertas, you have been insulting people all day, did you get you period early or were you dumped or something? This is outside your area of modding.
Have you obtained permission from DPR, and when did this occur?
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
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Libertas, you have been insulting people all day, did you get you period early or were you dumped or something? This is outside your area of modding.
Have you obtained permission from DPR, and when did this occur?
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
I have not been insulting anyone (though I did mention in a personal capacity that you should grow up), I do not get periods and I am currently in a stable, long term relationship, so none of the above.
How is this outside my area of modding? :-\ I'm trying to keep the forums organised, and ensure that discussion remains open on ALL topics.
As stated, I'm trying this to keep everyone happy and keep discussion free and flowing on ALL topics, on-topic and off. If you are not happy that both issues can now be discussed, what do you propose is the best course of action if discussion is being stifled as a result of being brought off topic every time? I am trying to help here, and am more than open to suggestion as to how to keep things free and open.
I also don't want this "us and them" battle to be going on. It's not doing anyone any good, and is pointless to be engaging in - my own posts in that other thread included.
EDIT: You're right though, I'd best check with DPR first.
Libertas