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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: LittleEddy on May 20, 2013, 10:31 pm

Title: requiring 50 posts has a lot of unintended consequences
Post by: LittleEddy on May 20, 2013, 10:31 pm
I've been around here for a LONG time, but a security reason I changed to a new user name and deleted all my old posts. I didn't post much, just mainly to report on vendors etc. Recently, there have been several posts where I could have offered meaningful input, but of course couldn't. Now I just read them.
Now that newbies are effectively locked out of discussions, their ability to respond in the other forums is gone along with some worthwhile input. Many folks only respond when they have something important to post, which translates to a low post count.

The 50 post limit does have benefits, which is obvious. However, I think there might have been a better way to impose it. For one example, I would think that if the 50 post limit were imposed on all accounts that were less than 30 days old, that would have solved the problem w/o penalizing everybody. Anyway, I think I'll go to the spam thread and build up my post count.....
Title: Re: requiring 50 posts has a lot of unintended consequences
Post by: Imperial on May 20, 2013, 10:37 pm
I totally agree. And, meet you there! good luck!
Title: Re: requiring 50 posts has a lot of unintended consequences
Post by: Libertas on May 20, 2013, 11:06 pm
For one example, I would think that if the 50 post limit were imposed on all accounts that were less than 30 days old, that would have solved the problem w/o penalizing everybody. Anyway, I think I'll go to the spam thread and build up my post count.....

Hi LittleEddy,

That seems like a good idea in theory, however the spammers would simply register a number of accounts every day and when they reach 30 days old (or however long we make it) they would be able to spam in every forum without issue, completely negating the need to have a Newbie forum in the first place.

Libertas
Title: Re: requiring 50 posts has a lot of unintended consequences
Post by: mg101 on May 20, 2013, 11:28 pm
unintended consequences, like this useless message from me?
sorry, just trying to make the 50!
Title: Re: requiring 50 posts has a lot of unintended consequences
Post by: WeBeWeedGirls on May 20, 2013, 11:30 pm
I know, it results in posts just like this. and what's the point of this post? serious though, it keeps the spambots out, that's pretty useful.
Title: Re: requiring 50 posts has a lot of unintended consequences
Post by: Stannis_the_mannis on May 20, 2013, 11:33 pm
agreed
Title: Re: requiring 50 posts has a lot of unintended consequences
Post by: Tyrion Lannister on May 20, 2013, 11:45 pm
and this connection is so slow, takes forever to go to 50 =(
Title: Re: requiring 50 posts has a lot of unintended consequences
Post by: pure Milo on May 20, 2013, 11:49 pm
I hate the msg you get when someone else posts just before you & it won't accept your post.

but i'm around halfway there now
Title: Re: requiring 50 posts has a lot of unintended consequences
Post by: Spartan7 on May 20, 2013, 11:52 pm
I hate the msg you get when someone else posts just before you & it won't accept your post.

but i'm around halfway there now

Yeah, Its a pain in the arse!
Title: Re: requiring 50 posts has a lot of unintended consequences
Post by: Libertas on May 21, 2013, 12:12 am
I hate the msg you get when someone else posts just before you & it won't accept your post.

but i'm around halfway there now

Yeah, Its a pain in the arse!

You can turn this off by going to Profile -> Forum Profile -> Account Settings -> Modify Profile -> Don't warn on new replies made while posting.

Libertas
Title: Re: requiring 50 posts has a lot of unintended consequences
Post by: Limetless on May 21, 2013, 12:15 am
You guys errr....you errr.....YOU WANT SOME MOTHA FUCKIN' CHEESE BURGERS?
Title: Re: requiring 50 posts has a lot of unintended consequences
Post by: fakeleslieknowles on May 21, 2013, 12:19 am
no thanks i'll stick to my 46 fries left.
Title: Re: requiring 50 posts has a lot of unintended consequences
Post by: Limetless on May 21, 2013, 12:30 am
no thanks i'll stick to my 46 fries left.

Get out.
Title: Re: requiring 50 posts has a lot of unintended consequences
Post by: VitaminC on May 21, 2013, 01:03 am
Dude I totally agree. I created my forum and sr account way before the 50 post rule, and I really benfitted from being able to out right ask ppl in the regular forums about questions I had. I took a break from sr for a while and it took a long time for me to realize I need 50 posts to join the regular forums  :'( so here i am...
Title: Re: requiring 50 posts has a lot of unintended consequences
Post by: LittleEddy on May 21, 2013, 01:07 am
For one example, I would think that if the 50 post limit were imposed on all accounts that were less than 30 days old, that would have solved the problem w/o penalizing everybody. Anyway, I think I'll go to the spam thread and build up my post count.....

Hi LittleEddy,

That seems like a good idea in theory, however the spammers would simply register a number of accounts every day and when they reach 30 days old (or however long we make it) they would be able to spam in every forum without issue, completely negating the need to have a Newbie forum in the first place.

Libertas
that would take a lot of dedication with some purpose. I would think that the population intent on doing something like that would be low. Surely for those few assholes, an admin such as yourself could take steps. Just saying. (oh, and one more post!)
Title: Re: requiring 50 posts has a lot of unintended consequences
Post by: LittleEddy on May 21, 2013, 01:24 am
I hate the msg you get when someone else posts just before you & it won't accept your post.

but i'm around halfway there now

Yeah, Its a pain in the arse!

You can turn this off by going to Profile -> Forum Profile -> Account Settings -> Modify Profile -> Don't warn on new replies made while posting.

Libertas
Aside from looking like the village idiot, I could not find the "don't warn me..." box. Perhaps this is only for non-newbies?
Title: Re: requiring 50 posts has a lot of unintended consequences
Post by: LittleEddy on May 21, 2013, 01:29 am
I just thought of another consequence. Look at the number of posts here. There's so many that any thing of importance will shortly be lost and never read. Who's going to read through all these as the spam threads keep updating regularly pushing the good stuff back into the queue. oh well, 16 to go...
Title: Re: requiring 50 posts has a lot of unintended consequences
Post by: LittleEddy on May 21, 2013, 01:44 am
yet another consequence. when replying to a spam thread and getting a "warning: a reply has been posted..." your action is to look for another spam thread to access and then "bump" another useless thread. However, because of this forum, I guess it doesn't matter. We ARE low thew  life's here...
Title: Re: requiring 50 posts has a lot of unintended consequences
Post by: Libertas on May 21, 2013, 01:54 am
For one example, I would think that if the 50 post limit were imposed on all accounts that were less than 30 days old, that would have solved the problem w/o penalizing everybody. Anyway, I think I'll go to the spam thread and build up my post count.....

Hi LittleEddy,

That seems like a good idea in theory, however the spammers would simply register a number of accounts every day and when they reach 30 days old (or however long we make it) they would be able to spam in every forum without issue, completely negating the need to have a Newbie forum in the first place.

Libertas
that would take a lot of dedication with some purpose. I would think that the population intent on doing something like that would be low. Surely for those few assholes, an admin such as yourself could take steps. Just saying. (oh, and one more post!)

Have you seriously not seen the "bitswing" etc. mass-spammers that come here and spam the hell out the Newbie forum?! :o

We do not censor or delete members here; it goes against everything that we stand for. We only delete the mass-spammers.

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Aside from looking like the village idiot, I could not find the "don't warn me..." box. Perhaps this is only for non-newbies?

Apologies, it's in Profile -> Modify Profile -> Look and Layout -> Don't warn on new replies made while posting.

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I just thought of another consequence. Look at the number of posts here. There's so many that any thing of importance will shortly be lost and never read. Who's going to read through all these as the spam threads keep updating regularly pushing the good stuff back into the queue. oh well, 16 to go...

The Newbie forum is not considered an 'important' forum. However, I believe it has a lot to offer and since I became a moderator I have been discussing with the team about perhaps confining the post-count spam to one or two megathreads and keeping the rest of the discussion spam-free. If you look at the main forums you will see that there are many discussions ongoing and no spam cluttering them. You will appreciate all of this a lot more when you reach 50 posts.

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yet another consequence. when replying to a spam thread and getting a "warning: a reply has been posted..." your action is to look for another spam thread to access and then "bump" another useless thread. However, because of this forum, I guess it doesn't matter. We ARE low thew  life's here...

If you have an issue with how things are done and can suggest a better way to accomplish the same task (confining the "btkoin / bitswing" mass-spammers to one forum instead of allowing them free reign over all the forums) then please do let me know how you would go about it.

Libertas
Title: Re: requiring 50 posts has a lot of unintended consequences
Post by: 9dauq9 on May 21, 2013, 02:25 am
This does seem very conter-productive
Title: Re: requiring 50 posts has a lot of unintended consequences
Post by: PLURCJ on May 21, 2013, 02:33 am
50 posts eh...I wonder if its against the rules to SPAAAAM your way to fifty.
Title: Re: requiring 50 posts has a lot of unintended consequences
Post by: Convalescent on May 21, 2013, 02:41 am
I personally like that it takes some time and effort to accomplish. It weeds out those who aren't serious about contributing or following the basic guidelines. The average person on a forum is going to have hundreds of posts within a few months anyways. I've hit 10k on one forum :P



Title: Re: requiring 50 posts has a lot of unintended consequences
Post by: LittleEddy on May 21, 2013, 03:17 am
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Aside from looking like the village idiot, I could not find the "don't warn me..." box. Perhaps this is only for non-newbies?


Apologies, it's in Profile -> Modify Profile -> Look and Layout -> Don't warn on new replies made while posting.

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thanks, that works--I thought I looked everywhere--that'll make life eaiser for the next few posts--thanks
btw, kudos for moderating this forum--it must be a lot of thankless work--thank for doing it!!
Title: Re: requiring 50 posts has a lot of unintended consequences
Post by: LittleEddy on May 21, 2013, 03:26 am

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The Newbie forum is not considered an 'important' forum. However, I believe it has a lot to offer ...
Libertas
I agree, but sadly as I stated before, the "good stuff" will vanish with the speed of light (spam). Hey, I got an idea that will solve the problem!! One that you have to agree with. Create a newbie forum titled "For spam only--use this one for increasing count."  Brilliant--why didn't I think of this before??
Title: Re: requiring 50 posts has a lot of unintended consequences
Post by: LittleEddy on May 21, 2013, 03:57 am
well Libertas, thank you for your help, but I'm out of here now since reaching the magical number. Perhaps I'll see you elsewhere.....
Title: Re: requiring 50 posts has a lot of unintended consequences
Post by: Libertas on May 21, 2013, 04:07 am
well Libertas, thank you for your help, but I'm out of here now since reaching the magical number. Perhaps I'll see you elsewhere.....

Haha, good luck out there! And kudos for contributing to actual discussion in this forum, it's not something everybody does. :) +1

Libertas