Silk Road forums
Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: JJRocks77 on May 20, 2013, 03:05 pm
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Hi guys, I opened an account on SR about a week ago and have had problems logging in the whole time. Yesterday it seemed to be working fine so I decided to try and fund my account. I made a btc purchase from a member with 100% positive feedback and over 150 transactions on SR. I was a bit nervous but I sent him £100 directly deposited to his local uk bank account this morning and then messaged him to confirm.
He replied quickly saying he'd look out for the deposit then transfer the btc. Since then I didn't hear from him for a couple hours and now the site is down? Is the site down or just not working for me? Also I'm not saying I got scammed and apologies to the vendor if as I expect, everything ends up legit from his side, but I've been reading the forums and it seems everyone is saying the bitcoin vendors are scammers.
He sent me .01 bitcent to then make the order from him on SR, have I been scammed? Anyone know when we will be able to get back on SR market?
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It's working fine for me. Don't buy BTC from vendors on here, use Bitbargain. You also should only deal in escrow. Some reading of the buyer's guide wouldn't go a miss
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Maybe he's going to send all your bitcoins in different intervals. The site is working for me, but there is probably a large amount of people accessing it so it may be running slow. You should keep checking throughout the day to see if more bitcoins are coming in
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SR is working fine.
Why not use https://bitbargain.co.uk or localbitcoins.co.uk
Take's a minute to register and they work a similar escrow system as SR (so your money is safe) and you can have coins in your SR wallet within 30 mins.
Bitbargain is my go to for coins currently.
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I agree with added sugar, I think you should limit the amount of parties that handle your bitcoins to a site that is justified as trustworthy by many other buyers. I used to use bitinstant, but I'm not sure if they're legit anymore.
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Did you pay through the SR system? If not that was your first mistake. If you did use the SR escrow system you will be protected. No worries!
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What the heck? SR is working fine? When I try to log in its asking for my pin which is not normal, then I get a message from DPR saying the site is under maintenance and a link to this forum for more info
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No I didn't pay through SR, the guy had 100% positive feedback on loads of transactions so I figured why would he bother screwing me for 100 quid, any ideas or tips on why I cant log into the SR market?
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log in message:
The Silk Road is down for maintenance. We will get the site back up asap. Thank you for your patience.
More information can be found here: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=151563.0
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What the heck? SR is working fine? When I try to log in its asking for my pin which is not normal, then I get a message from DPR saying the site is under maintenance and a link to this forum for more info
OMG you went to a scam version of SR. You are not using the correct link!!! You just gave some scammer all your SR account info! QUICKLY CHANGE YOUR PIN AND PASSWORD!!!
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silkroadvb5piz3r.onion is the right link
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Hi guys, I opened an account on SR about a week ago and have had problems logging in the whole time. Yesterday it seemed to be working fine so I decided to try and fund my account. I made a btc purchase from a member with 100% positive feedback and over 150 transactions on SR. I was a bit nervous but I sent him £100 directly deposited to his local uk bank account this morning and then messaged him to confirm.
He replied quickly saying he'd look out for the deposit then transfer the btc. Since then I didn't hear from him for a couple hours and now the site is down? Is the site down or just not working for me? Also I'm not saying I got scammed and apologies to the vendor if as I expect, everything ends up legit from his side, but I've been reading the forums and it seems everyone is saying the bitcoin vendors are scammers.
He sent me .01 bitcent to then make the order from him on SR, have I been scammed? Anyone know when we will be able to get back on SR market?
Please see the SR Wiki here:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php?title=Buyer%27s_Guide#Getting_Bitcoins
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php?title=Frequently_Asked_Questions#I_need_help_with_a_bitcoin_transaction_from_a_Silk_Road_vendor.
What the heck? SR is working fine? When I try to log in its asking for my pin which is not normal, then I get a message from DPR saying the site is under maintenance and a link to this forum for more info
Silk Road will NEVER ask you for your PIN. You're attempting to log in through a phishing site. The URL you should be using is:
silkroadvb5piz3r.onion
You will most likely not be able to access your account on the real site as the phishers have likely changed your passphrase; please see the following SR Wiki entry about how to reset that:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php?title=Frequently_Asked_Questions#I_forgot_my_passphrase.
No I didn't pay through SR, the guy had 100% positive feedback on loads of transactions so I figured why would he bother screwing me for 100 quid, any ideas or tips on why I cant log into the SR market?
If you fail to work within the Silk Road order system, there is nothing that can be done for you in the event you get scammed. Do not FE, do not use BTC exchangers on Silk Road to get your Bitcoin and do not ever send Bitcoin directly to vendors.
Please read every page on the SR Wiki; 99% of what you need to know is explained there in detail, and had you read it previously you would not have lost your money:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
Libertas
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FML now I went to the right link I have a message saying my btc was sent and I have a balance of zero! AHHH
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Change your release pin and password for your account. Then go to blockchain.info (****Clearnet Warning***). Type in your SR account number into the text box on the lower right and tell me how many confirmations you have!
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Fuck me! It shows that the vendor sent the btc and then 5 mins later it was withdrawn, do I have any recourse here?
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Unfortunately no. Next time just buy from bitinstant or localbitcoins and you will not run into this problem. In order for you to be safe you MUST be paying with bitcoins through the SR escrow system. AKA: Buying a listing that you can search in SR. You need to have the bitcoins! SR does not allow anyone to pay without bitcoins. And that is so they can get your money back if something like this happens.
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Canna where do I find my SR account number? I've definitely been robbed, the vendor sent 1.05btc and it shows it was withdrawn 5mins later, unfucking-real!
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When you sign in. At the top of the page click account. The vendor did his job the right way it looks. So, he didn't scam you. But, when you went to that phishing site and typed in your pin and password. The scammers that made that fake site immediately went into your account and stole your money. If you do what I said with blockchain you may be able to see the destination account address to where they sent it. pLus, in your account section is where you can change your release funds pin and account password.
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Canna, so I click account on top of screen it takes me to the account page but I don't have any numbers here, I have never used a bitcoin wallet on SR, the vendor deposited my btc directly into my SR account
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Fuck me! It shows that the vendor sent the btc and then 5 mins later it was withdrawn, do I have any recourse here?
Sorry to hear you got phished. :( But no, I'm afraid you do not have any recourse - Bitcoin transactions are irreversible. Every member is responsible for their own security. PLEASE read the SR Wiki; you NEED to know everything that's in it.
Libertas
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Ahh this is so annoying, I admit I'm not very computer savvy and now I've had £100 stolen fucking shit puts me off the whole SR market entirely
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Canna, so I click account on top of screen it takes me to the account page but I don't have any numbers here, I have never used a bitcoin wallet on SR, the vendor deposited my btc directly into my SR account
If you've never deposited Bitcoin to your Silk Road account:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php?title=Buyer%27s_Guide#Getting_Bitcoins
For user's making their first deposit and for users that haven't made a deposit in a while, your account page will have a link that says "Click here to make a deposit". The page that link leads to is where you will find your SR wallet bitcoin address. After your first deposit your address will be displayed right on the Account page itself, and beside it will be a button that will allow you to generate a new wallet address. We recommend using a new address for each deposit.
Read the Wiki. It answers ALL of the questions you've asked above. If you do your due diligence you will not lose money; personally I've spent over $20,000 on Silk Road with absolutely zero problems. Take your time, do your research, and you'll be happy out!
Libertas
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as soon as you click account you should see a long series of letters and numbers. That is your account number.
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Why on earth didn't you use the SR URL?
And secondly, why on earth would you give your pin when logging in?
Sorry pal, you've been scammed - but to be honest it's your own fault.
No offense meant, but you've just learnt the hard way.
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Yes I'm stupid and not computer savvy I know, can't believe this crap, I got the link from google, so stupid I know, didn't have it written down and obviously that link took me to the phishing site
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What a shame
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How did you give your SR BTC wallet address to a vendor without you knowing how to view it?
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sorry I was out and about, Nosugar I never gave the vendor my btc wallet address, he transferred the btc directly to my SR account. User to user transfer I didn't think that was suspicious I thought it was convenient... Is it suspicious? I believe the vendor is legit as it shows in my acct history and he has perfect feedback, I got phished by the low lives http://silkroaddrugs.wordpress.com/ and I fell for it... Can anyone track these bastards down?
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I forgot about sending them to a user, I've never done that. If you paid in GBP you're able to access bitbargain. I buy my coins from there. It's legit and takes seconds. The website explains it all, there's even a video. Beware the phishing site scumbags in future. At least it wasn't £10,000
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thanks NAS, I have had good communications with the vendor who did the btc transaction and I believe he is legit, he has been fair and agreed to do a smaller transaction (below his usual min) for me to try one more time. I have changed my account details obviously and I'm hoping to get a first successful SR purchase under my belt....
Can I just ask you since you seem quite informed and helpful, I see a lot of warnings about not releasing fe, but I see a lot of the top uk-uk vendors require fe. Theyve all got great user ratings and feedback, what is your opinion on fe with highly ranked vendors on small amounts? Cheers, JJ
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Well, it's up to you. I finalized early for my first three purchases, but there are ways around it. If you do FE and something goes wrong, SR support can't help you. There have been cases, even very recently, where seemingly good vendors have gone rogue and taken the money and ran. If you would like to get your stats up, there are lotteries or even porn to buy on here, very cheap and it gets those stats up. Any amount of BTC you require can be purchased from Bitbargain, from 0.1BTC to, well, god knows what. It is much safer to do it that way. If you're paying a vendor on SR from your UK bank account, you're losing your anonymity. I know it's only BTC you're buying, but, there's ways to be more anonymous.
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thank you, will check out bitbargain
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How's it going? Have you ordered from the real site yet? Have you registered with Bitbargain? I have another question, how did you find the BTC vendor in the first place, to buy your coins, if you only had the phishing site address? Had you visited the real silkroadvb5piz3r.onion site first?
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Ahh this is so annoying, I admit I'm not very computer savvy and now I've had £100 stolen fucking shit puts me off the whole SR market entirely
I'm sorry to hear that you have been scammed, but don't let this put you off of SR. SR has not fault on this, it was your mistake on going into a phishing site.
Since you are not tech savy (as you admit) I suggest you to browse well this forum for information on what you should do to behave yourself correctly on the SR (by and by, incrementing your security on steps; first learn how to use TOR and the SR, then work on anonymity etc.). You don't need to be tech-savy to learn the things, they are explained quite well so that everyone can understand them.
Before all else NEVER use any other link to the SR but the legit address that has been given to you also here. NEVER EVER give your PIN to anybody or anywhere. SR will NEVER request your PIN, if a site does then it is a phishing site, if an individual (also masking him/herself as an admin etc.) ask for it then it is a scam individual. Also if you did the mistake on going in that false site and you did just not put your PIN there you would have not lost your money. So remember this: NEVER use your PIN outside of when you actually have to use it for an order or other transaction operations on the CORRECT SR address.
Everybody can mistake something at beginning, it is natural. The important thing is that you learn from your errors and don't let them prevent yourself from enjoying something because of them. Yes, you lost £100, but it is not the end of the world and you will recover them in no time with your purchases. Don't let this put your off of the SR because you will lose an opportunity if you do so. Just browse the forum, inform yourself on the procedures better and then begin anew (maybe next time start a little lower on money and place one or two orders of little amounts to understand well how the things go; I can assure you that after you have placed one or two orders correctly everything will go in place and you will understand that it's not difficult at all and there are many wonderful things you can find here).
Don't let this mistake ruin your enjoyment of the place, it was not a scam of SR to begin with, because that vendor legitly gave you the BTC you asked for.
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Ahh this is so annoying, I admit I'm not very computer savvy and now I've had £100 stolen fucking shit puts me off the whole SR market entirely
Yes, you lost £100, but it is not the end of the world and you will recover them in no time with your purchases.
How is he going to recover money from buying things? He should obviously not be put off by the work of a thieving bastard scammer, and once he's used the site he won't make that mistake again. One can easily make the mistake he did on their first visit without visiting the forums. I only started using the forums after a vendor went AWOL, had that not happened, I still probably wouldn't. If you read this JJ, please answer my above question regarding any previous visits to the real address. Good luck with future purchases. The security here is top notch, so don't give up on the Road in favour of any lesser marketplace like Atlantis or BMR. Any problems, feel free to PM me.
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How is he going to recover money from buying things?
Because here in the SR he would much probably find better drugs than IRL (I know that it is so at last where I live, things can naturally wary depending where you are however) so in the end saving money with the purchases. There are many ways to make money, some direct and some indirect.
If for example you can only buy 1 gram of H not so good IRL and for the same money (or more, you will anyway save depending on how stronger the H is) you can buy 1g of H much stronger in SR you will naturally save money at every purchase by needing much less than usual.
I know that A) I've found drugs that I could never find where I live here, B) at prices/value that let me save so much money in the end, C) with even less hassle and probability of get caught than IRL if you do things correctly (also this is an indirect way of saving money in the end); all of this, at last in my case (but I suspect that for many it can be the same) has given me the possibility of wasting less money (so recovering it in comparison to normal circumstances) and so making money at every purchase.
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I disagree, the quality of Heroin from Holland is better than IRL, but most of the UK domestic Heroin here is of the same, or in some cases, less than I've bought IRL. It's convenient to order online and have it delivered to your door, and safer than buying from someone on the street, so the vendors on here can charge you more for that privilege. I've never seen Cocaine be sold for £80+ per gram IRL, and I was able to buy fantastic stuff for £50-£60 a gram locally, where I used to live. Not everything on here is of superior quality, and if you want prescription meds, £50 for one 8mg Subutex tablet is beyond a joke, they're £5 per tablet in my local area, £10 for 100mls of Methadone. The cost is higher for most things on here, not for quality, but for the convenience. I can go to a big city near to me (25 mins on the train) and get an LSD tab for £5 each. But that isn't convenient. I don't know where you reside, but if the things mentioned here are more expensive than on SR, you're getting ripped off.
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As I said, it depends where you live.
I can assure you that where I live about 70% of the products you see here are not possible to be found to begin with the other 20% cost much more and the remaining 10% is of less quality. It all depends where you are. I have a lot of connections where I live, it is just that some products simply don't exist and are not imported here in any way. As an example good luck on finding lab grade DMT where I live, neither in 50 years probably.
In other cases the user can have not good connections IRL or not wanting to have them and if that's so if you try to score without the connections there's an high change you will waste much money before you find them (and supposing you didn't want them to begin with you wasted money for nothing).
I agree that I projected my personal history on the OP and for him/her it is much probably not the same (I'm sure that in UK the thing is vastly different), but in my situation I can guarantee you that I saved a lot of money here and found things that it's impossible to find if you don't go outside (but in this case there is an higher risk of being caught).
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Sorry to hear about your problems, OP. SR is a wonderful place, and an ingenious step forward. Please don't let your bad experience turn you off.
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Hi guys, just checked back on the forum
I've made a new account just to be on the safe side, both for the forum and the main site...
NAS, I did at some point have the legit SR link and I was stupidly using both the real link and the fake one at times throughout the week. When I used the fake one and couldn't log in I just assumed site was down and then I would google search the link and it would work. I was so stupid not to realize what was going on...
Anyway to update my SR experience, I reordered a small amount of btc from the same vendor 'fromonetoanother' I found him on SR just searching under money and high ranked vendors. Because I believed the first transfer came through from him legit I tried again... This vendor is legit and for me super convenient as he transfers the btc direct to my SR account without having to use the btc wallet.
Once I received the btc I'm happy to say they were not insta stolen from my account. I made a purchase from dispater, a local uk vendor with fantastic user feedback, he required fe but I decided to roll the dice as it was a small £ amount and his reviews were good. I'm happy to say that the package arrived today, 24hrs after I made the order and everything is A+ solid in every way.
So let me thank all you guys for the help and give a solid thumbs up to both vendors I've used so far 'fromonetoanother' and 'dispater' :D
-JJ
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Also NAS to follow up on an earlier comment, you said I was losing my anonymity by doing a uk bank transfer to purchase the bitcoins but actually the vendor gave me a local bank acct number and sort code with no name and I was able to make an anonymous cash deposit into this account. For me the convenience of it all was worth the small markup.
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If it's Heroin you're after, and from UK, join our other thread
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=155937.msg1091033#msg1091033
It's specific to your needs. Didn't you have to use your own bank details for the transfer? Trust us who've said it, look up Bitbargain, it takes about 2 mins to get your coins. Just because this vendor hasn't ripped you off yet, doesn't mean he won't in the future when/if you decide to move more money around. Vendors go rogue all the time on here. I'm only looking out for another Silk Road brother. I received an order from Dispater too today. You'll be in good company on the thread I mentioned above. We're a good bunch who keep each other informed specifically on UK/EU Heroin. There's some lovely folk on there, last week one nice chap, Japan1980, lent one of us who was ill 0.40BTC so he could get some gear for the next day. I can only ask you so many times to be safe and not get your BTC from the road, feedback can be faked, respected vendors can turn nasty overnight, never FE if you can avoid it. Good luck bro.
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yes NAS that is what I purchased, I did not use a bank transfer to buy the coins, I simply went to the local branch, put the account info on a deposit slip with no name and made a cash deposit. I don't actually have a working uk bank account which makes using bitbargain impossible for me right now. I'll just keep my btc purchses at £100 per time and if the guy goes rogue then I can only get fucked for a few quid. Will jump in on your thread, cheers mate
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Don't buy bitcoin from Vendors!! Never fall for the "bargains". They always come packed with hidden cost!
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I don't get why everyone is so anti buying btc from sr vendors...
Its more convenient in that I can purchase with anonymous cash deposits into local bank and the btc goes directly into my sr account instead of dealing with the whole bitwallet thing. As I mentioned before I'm not very computer savvy. What are the hidden costs? The vendor charges 15% on top of the price from MTxgov which he clearly states in his product page. I can't buy from bitbargain as I don't use a checking account I cant do wire transfers.
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You don't really need your own wallet on your hard drive, if you buy from Bitbargain you can send the coins straight to your Silk Road wallet. People like to "clean" the coins by bouncing them around to different wallets, there's an anonymous wallet site called Bitcoin Fog. How do you get paid if you don't have a bank account?
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i feel for ya OP. my first transaction i FE'd to a reputable vendor and had him dip off with my 700 bux. like its been said tho, if you stay within the system you shouldnt have any problems that cant be solved.
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I appreciate the warning in this thread. I have to admit I have been a bit lazy about remembering the correct URL. I believe I recognise it when I see it, but one letter off and maybe I could be tricked.
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I always type it in manually, I remember in as if the numbers were letters, so it would read silkroad vb spizer. The end of road, being a "d" and the "vb", make a nice mirror image, and I remember that the last bit has a "5" in place of the "s" in my word, and a "3" in the place of the "e". This most likely seems over the top and ridiculous to you all. Maybe it could help stick in someones head, just for remembering how stupid my way of "rain man" memorizing the address is. I'd be happy if I just helped one person... Errr, that's too fucking cheesy.
silkroadvb5piz3r.onion
VB SPIZER remember my nonsense! Peace and love to all my SR brethren xxx
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hey man sorry to hear what happened to you , but I give you a big THANK YOU because it would have happened to me too. One time i logged in and it asked me for my pin and I entered it and it took me to that maintannce website. I didnt know any better thank god I have spent few days doing research reading up on everything before making any purchases or they woulda got my money too. Thanks for putting me on point!!
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educate!!
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This thread is definitely important for people to read. There is the stickied thread warning about phishing scams, but with more threads, there's more chance others will read it. These thieves really piss me off. Luckily, I didn't come across any phishing sites when I was a n00b. Luckily I've read many times that "neither Silk Road, nor its staff or admins, will ask you for your pin, ever" It's a shame that people find the phishing site before they find those words. The site is so convincing, and the highlighted help button next to the field for entering your pin looks and reads convincing too. New members, study the buyers guides, read the wiki page, visit the forums! That should be written in bold, neon writing ten foot high everywhere! (Impractical, obviously!)