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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: streetelitist on May 15, 2013, 04:53 am
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So a vendor messages me saying "please finalize your order". It's been about 3 days in transit and I haven't received anything yet, so I asked him why. He said "because tracking says its delivered".
I was a little confused, because I know I should wait until I physically receive it to decide anything. I've checked numerous times and it's not there, but he says the tracking says its delivered and he doesn't want me to delay the finalization because he needs the money. (It's a US DOMESTIC delivery btw)
Should I wait and see if the package somehow turns up, or wait and take it to resolution?
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Ask him for the tracking number or a screenshot of the tracking page showing delivered.
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it's only been 3 days. If you dont have it, dont finalize yet
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DO NOT FINALIZE until you have received the order and are happy with it. If you haven't received it yet and since the vendor is claiming it was delivered (and using that as an excuse to pressure you about finalizing early), you may eventually want to click on "resolve" and send it to the resolution center BEFORE it autofinalizes.
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Order in question in mine. I sent out several messages that all said "please finalize" to users whom I confirmed via tracking had packages delivered. I will only provide tracking to SR support during resolution. 3 days? Thats pretty long for priority, also not considering everyone else whos package was mailed at the same time as yours, has already received the package. I apologize but I fulfilled my end of the deal, and I am not responsible for lost packages after they are delivered. I'm a no nonsense vendor, and after the third "oh sorry, I have the package, my roommate grabbed it" after I said I have tracking, wears you down.
This is why I hate drop locations.
3 days is NOT long for priority mail! I've had a priority package take a week to get to someone.
Regardless, the buyer has every right to take the order to the resolution center if he doesn't receive it and should not be pressured into finalizing early.
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Do not FE. What is his vendor score and number of sales?
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Ask him who signed for it and a scan, just be honest with him.
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Ask him who signed for it and a scan, just be honest with him.
So now I have to get signature conformation on packages to be believed buahahah. Oh Silkroad.
I just meant maybe it got left with someone next door. Sorry I didn't mean to cause offense nor to suggest you are dishonest.
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Hey op, went ahead and marked it "never received." I don't need this drama, or the brow beating im about to get for telling you to "FE." im out $120 but hey, fuck the vendor am I right? So glad I make sure and use tracking on all my packages.
I would appreciate it, if you left me a 5. If the product does arrive, don't even worry about it. I would reship, but I am totally sold out.
"im out $120 but hey, fuck the vendor am I right?" - if you had evidence to support delivery of the product then you were free to provide that to the administrator overseeing the resolution and they would have made their decision on it. Don't make this about the buyer, they are playing by the rules here.
streetelitist, don't ever let a vendor attempt to force you into finalising. For future orders, if you have not received it within 10 days, you should hit the 'resolve' button:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php?title=Frequently_Asked_Questions#My_order_hasn.27t_arrived_or_it.27s_not_what_I_expected.
My order hasn't arrived or it's not what I expected.
If your order hasn't come after waiting 10 days, you should click "resolve" next to it on your orders page. This will put the order into resolution. Read all of the instructions in the Resolution Center, and try to come to an agreeable resolution with your vendor.
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Blah, im done with this. Never pressured anyone. Good job support
Don't you have some threads to lock and move libertas?
You asked a buyer to finalise when they had not yet received their package, InfiniteSource, and have caused this 'mountain out of a molehill' by your responses above. Appreciate the kind words though - you're a gent.
Regarding locking and moving threads, if you see any that need doing, please do let me know. Good man. ;)
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InfiniteSource can you take a photo of the screen to show the buyer that USPS says it has been delivered? Obviously covering up any info that you would want to be hidden and perhaps send it to buyers email? This would then show the buyer where you are coming from ;)
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InfiniteSource can you take a photo of the screen to show the buyer that USPS says it has been delivered? Obviously covering up any info that you would want to be hidden and perhaps send it to buyers email? This would then show the buyer where you are coming from ;)
The vendor would have had the opportunity to provide proof of delivery in the resolution center. I find it odd that they decided to mark the order as 'not received' instead of allowing it to be taken to resolution, proving that the order was indeed delivered by providing the DCN to the administrator, and receiving their money. Instead they did not allow it to go to resolution, marking it as 'not received', and did themselves out of $120. But hey, what do I know - I'm just a humble ol' forum moderator, right InfiniteSource? ::)
Does the above strike anybody else as being a little odd?
Wrong. The address he told me had received the package, according to the USPS. What the fuck is the point in having tracking if support wants to stammer around saying "you asked him to finalize? Oh no, he never got the package. You have tracking? Well he never got the package. You said tracking? He never got the package." When the vendor with 40 transactions and 100% good feedback is thought of as being the one lying the system is broken. Might I add out of the several dozen orders I filled over this week, this one single user is the ONLY ONE to have a problem.
I asked him to finalized once because I saw the package was delivered to the provided address. Stop turning this into something its not. Suddenly the word finalized is some dirty word. I ASKED HIM TO FINALIZE THE ORDER AFTER USPS MARKED IT AS DELIVERED TWO DAYS AGO. TWO DAYS.
Around and around we go.
Actually, no, I'm not wrong. You asked a buyer to finalise when they had not received their order, as stated in the original post in this thread. The point in having a tracking number is in order for you to be able to provide it to an administrator in resolution as proof to support your claim that the item was sent and delivered.
Support did not **"stammer around saying "you asked him to finalize? Oh no, he never got the package. You have tracking? Well he never got the package. You said tracking? He never got the package."**, as it never had the opportunity to be taken to Support in the first place. ???
Am I turning this into something it's not? You asked a buyer to finalise, they said they didn't get the order. To resolve the situation you should then wait until day 10, let them take it to resolution, provide evidence of sending and receipt and receive your money. You're causing the entire issue here by attempting to go around the system that is in place to protect both buyer AND vendor.
And no, 'finalise' is not in itself a "dirty word", however asking a buyer to finalise before they have received their product does give it dirty connotations.
Libertas
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InfiniteSource I am somewhat agreeing with you, If you have the delivery confirmation that states the package was delivered to the address that the buyer provided, I would perhaps figure out a solution. I don't think that you should have to eat the $120 if everything was done correctly on your end. You should have taken it to resolution, or tried to settle it between the two of you. You could have done this by simply showing the webpage that states the package was delivered to buyer's address.
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Whoa you got me! I sent out $3000 in orders this week, but decided to screw this one particular user out of $120. Give me a fucking break. I marked the package as " never arrived" because I didn't feel like being publicly lynched. But since you brought out the rods lets get this shit done with! Tried to be a decent vendor and just issue a refund but noooooo. I must be a scammer! That was my 120 in product I refunded to save face. I'm fishy? Cool avatar by the way. Shows everyone your down with the "cool kids."
How much you send out weekly in orders has no bearing on this issue at all. I didn't "bring out the rods", InfiniteSource, I simply stated the facts of the matter as they currently stand - all of which are verifiable by reading the posts above.
Nobody called you a scammer. Where's that coming from? ???
What I said was that the issue should have been allowed go to resolution, and as you seem so adamant that the buyer did indeed receive their order (meaning that you presumably have a DCN confirming this) that had you allowed it to be brought to resolution, you would most likely have received your full $120. I am addressing the points that you are bringing up, and for some reason you are becoming more and more irate about it. ???
Cool avatar by the way. Shows everyone your down with the "cool kids."
You're acting like an infant and making yourself look like a fool, something that reflects badly on you as a vendor a lot more than your attempted insults affect me as a moderator - just something that you may wish to keep in mind going forward.
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Perhaps someone is dipping into own supply ;) Neurotic aggressive irrational behaviour
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Sorry to hear that Infinite, I was joking, I wish the listings you have up are my DOC cause I would buy. Hope your day gets better
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YOU might be the hands down, a total fucking idiot, shitty vendor. One thing is certain...based on your responses in here along with your OP..you have announced yourself as a new, young, and total fucking idiot. And you are a TERRIBLE example of a shit bag vendor. You should actually loose your vendor account over this. You wont ...but you should. And then for you at the end to throw in "Thanks support" shows again how stupid you are...as no one from SR support has even commented on this. The 2 mods that did are just that...mods. NOTHING to do with Silk Road. And they both gave great advice btw. And when there is a thread and not 1 person agrees with anything you say and you keep saying more stupid shit. YOU are dumb and clearly not about business.
Also of note...the OP could not have been a "cooler" or "calmer" buyer that made a great post and in no way was bashing you. Though he should now.
If you send a package via USPS Priority it takes 2-5 days. In this case it has been three days and you being a total loser messages the buyer and told him to FE as he has the package and you "need" the money. He then responds " he has not received it". At that point...you should still be totally cool, explain to him that you have the dcn and tell him it shows.... delivered. Tell him the day and time it shows. So he can then "make a check to see if he somehow has it and he does not know (ie. a roommate/wife/girlfriend got it) that happens! If he makes that check and still no package. You then give him the tracking number so he can see for himself!
THERE IS NO REASON AT ALL YOU SHOULD NOT PROVIDE THE TRACKING NUMBER ...NONE!!! YOU FUCK STICK.
In fact, that is what they are for..a problem or dispute! 99.999% of the time, if you are cool (your not) and you give it to them, and they see for themselves that it indeed shows "delivered" then they will finalize, as it is "on them". The .001 that wont. Will 100% of the time "lose" the dispute if it gets that far. Of course, that is assuming you indeed have a legit tracking. And there is a better chance Rosie O'donell wins the super pipe in the next Olympics in snowboarding.But again, it will never go there if you just provided it. He would have see you in fact.... got it there very fast. He will see that you are just on top of shit. And YOU WIN. But in your case he has a better chance of seeing Elvis. And you could not see shit. Other then you are a thumb dick. But we all have seen that about you.(that's a compliment)
Your reaction in here is the worst I have ever seen. And I have been here over a year and seen it all. And though in here you totally over reacted, and said all kinds of stupid shit.that even a girl would not say, it is so hard for me to to go forward with a message about how fucking terrible you acted because you did not do one thing correct. And that is hard to do.
And your attitude is so poor, that you are a liability to SR and this community. And you are way to new and have no sales at all to even consider...I mean even whisper... you are correct in any way. And the fact you claim to have a DCN ....that say's "delivered" and you do not provide it to a customer in this situation and you want to wait for 17 days plus days to give it to SR is really fucking stupid.
I assume the fact you contacted him so fast and it was this small an order, you are a very penny vendor.And the $120 is a lot to you. And you confirmed that....but of course in your great writing style you told us ....or you bragged how you made 4k+ that week or month or whatever..then in your next loser breath you say something like you spent the food check on Express shipping!
First lets talk about a food check!!! Holy shit...how fucking scummy are you? Who gets a "food check" and you spent it all on Express shipping??? What do you eat.... Top Ramen and a god dam potato? This is another example of a vendor that is very under bankrolled to be a vendor and on top of the "bond" they should be required to send a picture of them holding 5k cash to pay for stuff like shipping an other items so they do not sound like losers who brag about 4k, then cry about a food check and spending it on shipping!
It would be so simple for you to get paid. And then you acting like an idiot and marking it as "never received" and if you are indeed telling the truth and you have 60+ orders and all 5/5... you just fucked your self for penny's. And for no reason at all. As your account and feedback take a hit! And the worst part for you is you keep typing! You CLEARLY are high and stupid. We are all high, but you are stupid high. Great combo I.S!
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I saw the lynch mob grabbing picks so I did what I could to diffuse what was happening. It was starting to turn into, "YOU WANTED HIM TO FE?" "I HOPE YOU BURN IN HELL YOU MOTHERFUCKER!"
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There was no lynch mob and no one was saying you were asking him to FE. They were saying
" Hey idiot...if you have a dcn..give it up and you will get your money"
When you refused and you start ranting and raving...every single person believes your lying! Or just DUMB AS SHIT(both)
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Wrong. The address he told me had received the package, according to the USPS. What the fuck is the point in having tracking if support wants to stammer around saying "you asked him to finalize? Oh no, he never got the package. You have tracking? Well he never got the package. You said tracking? He never got the package." When the vendor with 40 transactions and 100% good feedback is thought of as being the one lying the system is broken. Might I add out of the several dozen orders I filled over this week, this one single user is the ONLY ONE to have a problem.
I asked him to finalized once because I saw the package was delivered to the provided address. Stop turning this into something its not. Suddenly the word finalized is some dirty word. I ASKED HIM TO FINALIZE THE ORDER AFTER USPS MARKED IT AS DELIVERED TWO DAYS AGO. TWO DAYS.
Around and around we go.
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What the fuck are you talking about??? When did you provide "support" with the tracking? Who has seen the tracking to back up your claim? The point of having a DCN is for you to provide it as proof you sent it. Provide it, with the address he provided and you win. It could not be simpler.
The forum mods are trying to talk sense into you. Clearly that is not possible. The only one going around and around is you. And all this over $120 bucks??? DIRTBAG.
If any thread should be locked at some point , it is this one with this vendors bullshit. I suggest all buyers reading this, go to SR and to his vendor account and report him. And if any single person that reads this...thinks about buying from him...lol.
I.S to us a favor...overdose...though I doubt you have the supply to do it. And god knows you have no god dam money to buy supplies to take your life. Maybe you will starve to death.
I demand you tell us about a "food check"
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Just give the kid the tracking number!
You've been a vendor for 10 days !!!
You can't expect people to be too trusting of a Vendor that new.
Not taking sides, just a little friendly advice. The mods are giving you straight advice directly from the rules page.
The whole "drop" location is annoying. How does that even work? - A vacant apartment? or House?
Sounds sketch on the buyers end, to be fair. - But there's no reason not to just give him the tracking number.
Fuck the screenshot idea. - Photoshop anyone?
Give the tracking number, and chill. - You're just starting out. - The last thing you want is people to read all this negative back and forth.
If you're in the right, it will be proven. - Sorry to hear about your 'food check'. Do you mean food stamps? Please don't tell me that's true.
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Will the tracking number not revel where it was sent from? Just a thought
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Looks like i lost 120 and the lynch mobs still coming! Oh well.
what lynch mob? cant everyone just calm down sure this can be sorted out properly and politely.
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Infinite you are kinda playing the victim now. If you took a picture of the screen with the USPS confirmation on it, cover up your address and anything that you don't want buyer to know, but show him his information and where it says the shit was delivered. Then you can tell him to eat a dick and/or eat a bowl of dicks. That way it will show that you did your part and unfortunately he did not do his good enough. You seem to be in a bitchy mood, my solution is EASY and would rectify this situation quickly. If you are not going to show him proof of delivery, then shut up and take the loss like a big boy.
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Get em RXKing, God I love this Vendor. This is how all the vendors should be, it's fucking awesome. This is a vendor that knows what the hell he's doin. Jezz man take a long hard read and pay the fuck attention, you just my learn something.. :)
RXKing RXKing RXKing..Whahoo!!!! Love the RXKing ;)
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@InfiniteSource, You are a complete and total Dumb Ass, you are not an established vendor. You do not have the cred nor the common sense on how to deal with people on here. Just quit now before the fukin pressure really gets to you. Right now you haven't seen shit and your coming unglued. For those of us that understand people and PREY, your just bleeding in the water and waiting and wanting to be attacked.
Here come the Sharks MF'r, hahaha :)
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Whats all this shouting were have no trouble here! this is a local shop for local people!
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You say information was provided? As in you told him it was delivered, because if that is the "information that was provided" I would not be happy with that either. Unless you are an established vendor, i would want a little more than your word. Yeah you should stop, the more you post, the more I am starting to be on whoever is against you. Kinda acting like a douche
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Some vendors do and some don't. If it's a dispute, then all the more reason to do it.
I know some people are of the opinion that giving tracking numbers out will somehow "clue in" LE because people either will check it repeatedly, or there's another urban legend that checking a tracking number from TOR will somehow be identified by the post office.
Sounds unlikely, for the whole idea of TOR is your IP shows differently each time. I can't see it showing up as TOR for them, and doubt they look or even keep track of who checks USPS.com. People could be waiting for millions of orders from millions of legit websites. So all of that is just paranoia.
I know a very reputable/successful H dealer, and he always provides you with a tracking number when marked in transit, as well as a "thank you for ordering" in the same PM. - That's a class act.
PM the number. - If it goes to resolution it goes to resolution, and you'll be vindicated.
Just my advice, take it or leave it. - PM the DCN#, and then go take a break or rest.
I can be pretty emotional sometimes, and it's the worst time to post something in forums. You might regret it. I know I have, and I don't have as much to lose as someone who vends.
Good idea - take a break
Peace
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PS @londonpride2 - WTF are you talking about? Local? - You mean like figuratively? (If so, sorry, that took me off guard) :P
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I still have the pms you sent telling me you were going to post fake feedback if I did not quit selling my adderall so low RxKing. Your kinda of a douche bro.
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I still have the pms you sent telling me you were going to post fake feedback if I did not quit selling my adderall so low RxKing. Your kinda of a douche bro.
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What the fuck are you talking about? I would NEVER message you about Adderall and how the fuck would the king leave you fake feedback? And why the fuck do I care about you. I have never heard about you until now. And I have said a lot of shit to a lot of shit bags...so clearly you fit the mold..but one thing I have never said is the words " fake feedback". And I would never waste my time telling a vendor with 60 sales a god dam word. And I do not even sell Adderall!!! I give it away to customers that need it when they by real pills from me.
Instead of lying about the king...you should produce a dcn for this customer.
And then you must tell us about a food check.
And what fucking drugs you took tonight.
And how someone that is a big dirtball like yourself has a vendor account.
And then go back to that food check.
And "kind of a douche???" Coming from a guy that spent his food check on Express shipping? I treat loser vendors like you as I would a bag filled with dirty water...if that is what you mean...Guilty. But before you start lying about me...go to my account and read my feedback. Then realize I am the most accurate poster in this forum. If I call you a shit-bag vendor..... Then you can take it to El Banco that you are a bag of shit. And I am calling you a bag of shit. Just LYING around stinking up the joint.
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PS @londonpride2 - WTF are you talking about? Local? - You mean like figuratively? (If so, sorry, that took me off guard) :P
Sorry it was a quote from the league of gentlemen, very immature and not very helpful; sorry Sir
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I know some people are of the opinion that giving tracking numbers out will somehow "clue in" LE because people either will check it repeatedly, or there's another urban legend that checking a tracking number from TOR will somehow be identified by the post office.
Sounds unlikely, for the whole idea of TOR is your IP shows differently each time. I can't see it showing up as TOR for them, and doubt they look or even keep track of who checks USPS.com. People could be waiting for millions of orders from millions of legit websites. So all of that is just paranoia.
The list of TOR exit nodes is public. I've been doing this since before TOR was released and me and the old timers like me all agree that you should not track through TOR. It wouldn't be the slightest challenge to see who is tracking from TOR. The challenge would be to scrutinize each and every one of those packages, which we know they don't scrutinize ALL of them.
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@InfiniteSource This might seem like an obvious question but I thought that vendors weren't supposed to keep addresses once it was sent, so how do you know you got the right person with the tracking? Since you contacted them to say it was delivered and you say you sent an awful lot of packages, is it possible you got the tracking number for the wrong person?
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@InfiniteSource This might seem like an obvious question but I thought that vendors weren't supposed to keep addresses once it was sent, so how do you know you got the right person with the tracking? Since you contacted them to say it was delivered and you say you sent an awful lot of packages, is it possible you got the tracking number for the wrong person?
IS told you the truth..but he only addressed the Priority packaging...as with that...we get a receipt with the zip code and the name of the city and estimated date of delivery..no guarantee..so just like he said...I ask zip and I look at receipt and then have the dcn and look it up...
But with a Express package...I actually get a copy back of the label and on the receipt it is the exact same as the priority as instead of saying Priority it says Express and has the zip and the excepted date Guaranteed delivery since it is Express. Now in this case..I could destroy the copy of the express label and just use the receipt just like I do for priority as I would just have city and zip... But there is no rule about us not keeping those for the one day it takes the express package to be delivered....and if for some reason it doe snot get there the next day by 3pm or 12pm (only options) then you need that to get a refund.. and since it is only 1 day it is not an issue if we keep them until it is delivered and the buyer finalizes... Or you could come back from the post office and destroy that copy right away...kind of silly and no need. I staple everything...and then the next day as soon as they finalize I then shred them..
And I am sure every vendor does it different...and in my case I have had 46 express packages in 1 day. And I am sure other vendors have had more...but in general you would think less pay for that option...but in my sales (Rx Pain Pills) 90% of the buyers pay the $20 for over note vs. the $7 for 2-5 days...
But you were addressing can we "keep the address" after we ship and of course the answer is NO...and actually not one vendor wants it anyways..but keeping the receipt is not considered keeping the address in USPS Express situations) and in USPS Priority situations..we all just use the labels and go from the order page where we can see the address....fill it out..and get it off...I do not mark in transit right after I send it as I wait until It is at the post office but I think a lot of vendors do fill it out then mark in transit..and there is no prob with that as it is "in transit" once it is packaged :D
Hope that clears it all up...and of course I am only talking about USPS Express and Priority. I am sure some use Fed Ex and UPS...and those produce labels like Express.
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Simple solution. Send a photoshopped pic of your tracking to buyer. Done and done. If you are right, your cred is back. If not, you suck at being a vendor. And if it doesn't matter anymore, next time, you know to send that proof of delivery to SR support and you will win your case. There should be no other things you should be doing but these 2 options. No reason to talk any further about this. JUST DO IT!!!!
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would it be wrong at this point to suggest a fight to the death in the style of Flash Gorden?
I'll get me coat....
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would it be wrong at this point to suggest a fight to the death in the style of Flash Gorden?
I'll get me coat....
Yea this is much more helpful..lol :o Must be your local thing. WTF
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I think this thread has run its course. The OP knows what to do in future situations, the vendor has cancelled and refunded the buyer despite insisting that the package was sent and delivered and I'm sure he knows by now the opinion that others are developing. It has just devolved into a thread attacking the vendor, completely separate to the thread's topic.
Does anyone disagree with me locking this?
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Woahhh I just woke up, good thing you didn't lock it yet.
Man this blew up wayyyy out of proportions. I wasn't even mad or anything, its only $120. If it shows up, I will gladly pay you what I owe you. I just needed to check if I was doing the right thing by waiting, & you most likely would have won in resolution which is why I also found it odd.
I didn't mean any harm man =[ (hopefully I find this missing package)
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Woahhh I just woke up, good thing you didn't lock it yet.
Man this blew up wayyyy out of proportions. I wasn't even mad or anything, its only $120. If it shows up, I will gladly pay you what I owe you. I just needed to check if I was doing the right thing by waiting, & you most likely would have won in resolution which is why I also found it odd.
I didn't mean any harm man =[ (hopefully I find this missing package)
You were absolutely doing the right thing, 100%! If a package does not turn up, always take it to the resolution center. Never finalise simply because a vendor asks you to if you do not physically have the order in your hands.
Would you like me to lock this thread?
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Just throwing in my 2 cents before Libertas locks in
Totally confused as why he just can't provide the tracking. I provide tracking to all my customers who request it. All I ask is that they setup PGP because I refused to send it unenvrypted, and if they demand so I do it only on the condition that I am completely removed from any liability towards the package safety, which is usually enough to get them to setup PGP.
If a customer orders with tracking, they should get exactly that. ?
Me confused =S.
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I still have the pms you sent telling me you were going to post fake feedback if I did not quit selling my adderall so low RxKing. Your kinda of a douche bro.
Lmao if that is true, if it is true im sure we wont see the proof but if it is that should probably be investigated by mods/admins too.
Just the way Rxking talks is annoying me, in fact i hate when people name call, there are much more clever ways to insult if that's your sort of thing. But then again why must we insult, it makes us all look childish and your point can be proven much more efficiently without insults of any kind.
As for the main issue, it seems as if there is the easiest solution but vendor chooses to ignore so oh well. Go to the res. centre if you want any chance of getting any % back but buyer didn't get what he 'paid' for so cant blame him either.
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Going to leave this open - after giving it more thought I don't actually see any *need* to have it locked. The denigration that was taking place of the vendor involved was what made me consider that the thread had served its original purpose and had degraded into something unneeded, but I can't justify locking it when attempting to balance that with my personal goal of ensuring freedom of speech, so it will be left open unless the original poster requests that it is closed.
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I still have the pms you sent telling me you were going to post fake feedback if I did not quit selling my adderall so low RxKing. Your kinda of a douche bro.
Lmao if that is true, if it is true im sure we wont see the proof but if it is that should probably be investigated by mods/admins too.
Just the way Rxking talks is annoying me, in fact i hate when people name call, there are much more clever ways to insult if that's your sort of thing. But then again why must we insult, it makes us all look childish and your point can be proven much more efficiently without insults of any kind.
As for the main issue, it seems as if there is the easiest solution but vendor chooses to ignore so oh well. Go to the res. centre if you want any chance of getting any % back but buyer didn't get what he 'paid' for so cant blame him either.
"If i is true LMAO"
So what makes you laugh out loud, is if I was to send this lying vendor a private message telling him to lower his prices on Adderall? That would make you laugh out loud? And forum Mods should investigate it along with SR administrators? This proves with out a doubt, that you, Jack off spades is dumb as shit. Oh no, your annoyed because I name call and I won't stand for lying.
Let me tell you what annoys me. First, members that are stupid enough to put a donation address for coins in their signature. When there is no reason, what so ever,that any person would ever give you anything but shit for your lack of sense of humor and you inability to clearly see when another member, that actually has a vendors account, and therefore is held to a higher standard of integrity and is expected to "do the right" when it comes to selling and shipping drugs on the REAL site of Silk Road. Yet that member, a vendor named InfiniteSource, is CLEARLY being a total fucking moron and is making a NON SITUATION....a situation... by simply not doing the easiest thing that could be done and give a little piece of information that would clear this up in 5 seconds and instead decides to post ludicrous statements and completely ignore common sense and every single person that has a brain cell left that has seen this thread and give proof he sent it and it was delivered. And instead of doing that, he ignores it and starts just making up shit in this thread.
So much so that there are some idiots in here, YOU/ the vendor,that lose sight of the REAL problem and instead try and focus the intention on another vendor, my excellent self, that has been a Vendor for over a year and has the best feedback/ reputation for selling drugs you could possibly have on the dark net because they do not like that I refuse to be nice to the LIARS and the total idiots that only cause problems on Silk Road. I use these forums for what they are really here for...to warn and help buying members of Silk Road navigate the road and not get ripped off. The ONLY thing I care about is people get what they paid for. PERIOD. Drugs or BTC to buy drugs or other items on Silk Road. I do not care about anything else. And neither should you.
I do not give a fuck about being PC. Or other week ass pussies that get their feelings hurt when called a name. They deserve the name calling. They should be exposed. This place needs me. 100's of people trust me with there money and there personal information every day on Silk Road and they know I deliver 100% of the time. And that I will not bullshit them or say stupid shit. I take NO SHIT. And I say what needs to be said.
I am not some loser that ask for donations and brings not one thing at all to these forums(like yourself). I am not jealous, nor would I ever be able to take one thing that is said in these forums personal. I could not even imagine being in these forums for no reason at all (like yourself) and posting.... that I think other forum members are "mean".
So delete your forum account and go look in the mirror and ask yourself
"would anyone care if I died?"
The answer is NO.
Yet if I don't answer a message within 30 min on Silk Road on a Monday- Friday from 12pm to 8pm I will have 45 messages asking me if I am "ok". They want to know if I possibly have a cramp in my hand. Or a headache. Or if one of my 7 Tv's is not working. They are that concerned abut me.
But with you.... You could die right now and it would not matter.No one would notice.My dogs farts last longer then anyone in this world thinks about you. And what is really funny, is both things smell exactly the same.
Good day.
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I think this thread has run its course. The OP knows what to do in future situations, the vendor has cancelled and refunded the buyer despite insisting that the package was sent and delivered and I'm sure he knows by now the opinion that others are developing. It has just devolved into a thread attacking the vendor, completely separate to the thread's topic.
Does anyone disagree with me locking this?
Liberts
@ Libertas, I apologize to you and any other mod or respected vendor. I hope that those that know a bit about me know that I am not just trying to cause strife in here or any other thread. I have a very protective nature for the persons that seem to have the best interest of those that serve and those that needing to be served. This jack bag rubbed several people I hold in high regard in another thread, M review, which is where I first encountered his total disregard for the people that make this forum the best I have ever seen. Of course this is the only one I have ever participated in, and that is because you mods do allow the freedom to speak our minds. Ya'll let those that need to defend themselves the opportunity to do so and those of us that call the BS BS are also free to do so, and for this I Salute you mods.
I do hope this has been clear to my intentions and attitude. I do not apologize for my attitude. I stand by it and for the people that have earned the respect, which is pretty simple. Be nice when needed, be firm in your beliefs and do not lie, cheat or steel, pretty simple huh? I Love this place and Respect the ROAD..
PS I do not disagree with you on this thread..
Peace and Love, lol ;)
@ Jackofspades, long live the "KING" hahaha :)
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@ Libertas, I apologize to you and any other mod or respected vendor. I hope that those that know a bit about me know that I am not just trying to cause strife in here or any other thread. I have a very protective nature for the persons that seem to have the best interest of those that serve and those that needing to be served. This jack bag rubbed several people I hold in high regard in another thread, M review, which is where I first encountered his total disregard for the people that make this forum the best I have ever seen. Of course this is the only one I have ever participated in, and that is because you mods do allow the freedom to speak our minds. Ya'll let those that need to defend themselves the opportunity to do so and those of us that call the BS BS are also free to do so, and for this I Salute you mods.
I do hope this has been clear to my intentions and attitude. I do not apologize for my attitude. I stand by it and for the people that have earned the respect, which is pretty simple. Be nice when needed, be firm in your beliefs and do not lie, cheat or steel, pretty simple huh? I Love this place and Respect the ROAD..
PS I do not disagree with you on this thread..
Peace and Love, lol ;)
@ Jackofspades, long live the "KING" hahaha :)
There is absolutely no need to apologise for speaking your mind, SOUTHPAW! We greatly appreciate the kinds words though, thank you! :)
Libertas
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Guys I had three orders and three 100% happy customers.
They happened to be Infinitesource1, Infinitesource2, and Infinitesource3 though
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This is the best thread ever and RxKing is my new hero.
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Every one is a tough guy over the internet especially when its anonymous, RXking you're right i am dumb and name calling accomplishes a lot and i do not have the right to be annoyed by name calling.
Its not like this is a free speech forum where i can say that i am annoyed and post whatever i want in my sig. Please forgive me for being annoyed at your rudeness and thinking that alleged threatening PMs should be brought up as a safety concern, what are you hiding?!
When did i say that liars shouldnt be exposed?! I am incredibly honest as far as SR is concerned and everyone has the right to say what they want including you.
Im sure you are a great vendor and your many televisions clearly illustrate that, be proud Rxking but a little more humble wouldnt hurt.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" -Evelyn Beatrice Hall
If name calling has gotten you 7 TV's it must be working so keep it up and im still accepting donations to my wallet ;)
Peace.
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Every one is a tough guy over the internet especially when its anonymous, RXking you're right i am dumb and name calling accomplishes a lot and i do not have the right to be annoyed by name calling.
Its not like this is a free speech forum where i can say that i am annoyed and post whatever i want in my sig. Please forgive me for being annoyed at your rudeness and thinking that alleged threatening PMs should be brought up as a safety concern, what are you hiding?!
When did i say that liars shouldnt be exposed?! I am incredibly honest as far as SR is concerned and everyone has the right to say what they want including you.
Im sure you are a great vendor and your many televisions clearly illustrate that, be proud Rxking but a little more humble wouldnt hurt.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" -Evelyn Beatrice Hall
If name calling has gotten you 7 TV's it must be working so keep it up and im still accepting donations to my wallet ;)
Peace.
Hey numb nuts, I have noooo problem with name calling, so if you want to play bring it. ;)
You sound like the biggest pussy on here. Did you get your feelings hurt? Ahh, threatening how the fuck did anyone threaten you over this anon drug forum. Seriously, did you give out some person info that would make you feel vulnerable? Because, I really have to know how you feel threatened when no body knows or cares who the fuck you are. Your the same jack bag talking about addiction and have no fucking idea what your talking about.
Look, if this forum is too tough for you or it hurts your feelings then stay the fuck out. This is not your mommy's baby sitting, where she can put you in front of a computer and leave your ass alone to play. Though I fully understand why she would do that with you. Probably tired of all the damn wining like some of us here are.. :)
Internet tough guys, are you fucking kidding? Are you new to this thing called the WEB? The dark web at that. you really need to learn to have some thick skin, and intelligence. Today's World is moving quick and the strong will survive. If their tough enough. The rest should stay home and have mommy take care of them the rest of their pathetic lives. :o
Hope your not crying, sissy.. No, actually I don't. You need to get pissed off because of that sheltered life you are obviously leading and come out to play with the big dogs. If your going to mouth off on forums such as these.. :)
Don't forget Peace & Love, lol :) 8)
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What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.
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What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.
LOL. The plot thickens. This thread is multitudes.
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What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.
Now we're talking you pussy, come get me you fucking retard... :o ;)
Your so fucking stupid to think that I have not seen this pathetic post before. But my time is more valuable then to go search the past for something you are unable to produce from your own IQ.
Look dumb ass, those of us that have actually served in a capacity to do what you wish you could do not spew it out on the open forums. Again you show your mature level, or more accurately lack of..huh your still a little bitch stuck to mama's tit for the rest of your miserable life. ;)
Again, come get some, you twat.. :P
Peace and Love..hahaha BIG :)
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What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.
where have i seen that before? lmao.
and @southpaw i never said I was threatened so stop putting putting fucking words in my mouth. I am tougher than most and i bet ill fuck your day up real quick you little 12-year-old-hiding-behind-a-keyboard-twat. See I can talk tough too but it accomplishes little. I encourage sophisticated conversations something you may be unable to participate in. Ive been in college and in jail ; ive won debates and fucked up guys bigger than me with ease. Toughness only gets you so far until you have to start using your mind and words you fucking little bitch ass wanna be thug.
I don't give a fuck if you believe me or not, go ahead and try and one-up me by saying youre some ex military thug who has a doctorate or whatever this is anonymous so nothing like that even matters you little prick you wanna keep talking shit go right the fuck ahead and waste your time, im not even gonna bother with this thread anymore its a waste of time and energy and id rather have conversations with intelligent users that dont make empty threats.
if you get your fix talking tough on here then who am i to stop you, i just had hoped that for a bigger reason than your personal gains that we could show the world that SR users are civilized and not scumbag drugies who bicker.
cheers ya motherfucker ;) :) 8)
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Not bad kid! :)
Look I have bigger fish to fry then go back and forth with your little dumb ass juvenile self.. But I will take the time to reiterate what a puss you are and ask, what the fuck is wrong with your mom? To let you play on this adult forum? Obviously, she doesn't love you any more and wishes you would go play in the street till you either get run over by a semi truck(tractor trailer) or picked up by some deviant fucking child mol, that you could probably relate to. Either way it is a win win for us and mom, your pathetic life coming to and end. Or, you have a couple of possibilities, coming out alive and tougher or still dead. Doesn't mean anything to me sissy..
Stay safe! :) hahaha
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Not bad kid! :)
Look I have bigger fish to fry then go back and forth with your little dumb ass juvenile self.. But I will take the time to reiterate what a puss you are and ask, what the fuck is wrong with your mom? To let you play on this adult forum? Obviously, she doesn't love you any more and wishes you would go play in the street till you either get run over by a semi truck(tractor trailer) or picked up by some deviant fucking child mol, that you could probably relate to. Either way it is a win win for us and mom, your pathetic life coming to and end. Or, you have a couple of possibilities, coming out alive and tougher or still dead. Doesn't mean anything to me sissy..
Stay safe! :) hahaha
Okay.
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I have learned a few things from reading this thread...
InfiniteSource's source is Finite...
InfiniteSource does not have the proof he says he has and the fact he has deleted all his posts in the thread proves to me that he was talking shit and can not be trusted..
RxKing sounds like a smart, straight up vendor and calls a spade a spade.. ( no need for the kill yourself stuff but ) +1..
Libertas has proven himself to be a calm, informative, level headed mod and a real asset to the forums.
Libertas, when your name popped up in the customer support thread answering some questions a couple weeks ago I had to flick Scout and SSBD a message to see if you were actually a mod or just some mad forum user dishing out some advise. Since then I have seen you deal with a lot on here and give out some very solid advise to those in need.
Keep up the good work bro...
Thanks to those that contributed something worth reading to the thread...
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Libertas has proven himself to be a calm, informative, level headed mod and a real asset to the forums.
Libertas, when your name popped up in the customer support thread answering some questions a couple weeks ago I had to flick Scout and SSBD a message to see if you were actually a mod or just some mad forum user dishing out some advise. Since then I have seen you deal with a lot on here and give out some very solid advise to those in need.
Keep up the good work bro...
Thanks to those that contributed something worth reading to the thread...
Thank you very much for the kind words, 1mIcedout. They're much appreciated! :)
Libertas
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Libertas has proven himself to be a calm, informative, level headed mod and a real asset to the forums.
Libertas, when your name popped up in the customer support thread answering some questions a couple weeks ago I had to flick Scout and SSBD a message to see if you were actually a mod or just some mad forum user dishing out some advise. Since then I have seen you deal with a lot on here and give out some very solid advise to those in need.
Keep up the good work bro...
Thanks to those that contributed something worth reading to the thread...
Thank you very much for the kind words, 1mIcedout. They're much appreciated! :)
Libertas
Your welcome mate...
You and your fellow mods really have been keeping this place in good nick..
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The dude is not making friends over in the meth vendor thread at rumor mill either...one has taken to referring to him as 'InfiniteSores' ;D
It is interesting how it goes though, if a vendor comes on the forums and makes an ass of themselves I'm sure there are loads of people like me who wouldn't entertain the idea of buying from them with a ten foot pole...for some reason the good vendors never seem to get into these sort of predicaments!
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Hi everyone. I know I have been absent, but I think I need to bring something to everyones attention.
The users southpaw, rxking, just recently trainsTrtainsTRAINS, and the person Libertas just patted on the back, 1mIcedout, are all the same users. I believe RxKing has several vendor accounts he is using to gain trust and scam. RxKing has several forum accounts. Look at the style of writing, its something that can't be missed. Tons more evidence can be found over at my last couple of posts in the meth thread. This user is manipulating the forums, and scamming people.
I believe the new account "crystal ship" is RxKings soon to be fe scam account. More evidence over at my posts in the meth thread.
This user stands to GAIN from my down fall. This user has been allowed to screw people out of money, and lie to everyone here. I'm so glad we have "free speech." I am a good vendor who has 100% rating. Don't be manipulated.
Why are these certain accounts that all write the exact same out to get me so hard?
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HA HA Yeah man that was a good laugh...I'm just part of a vast conspiracy on the forumz against you.
Right. Actually I am just a buyer of the product you are hucking and I'm glad as hell I never stumbled across your listing(s) and/or gave them any consideration. Some of us aren't just desperate dim-wit tweekers and we actually like to get to know the person we are entrusting our personal details with. When you come on here aggro and high on supply then sweep back through and edit out all your comments to 'nope' that says a lot about you.
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HA HA Yeah man that was a good laugh...I'm just part of a vast conspiracy on the forumz against you.
Right. Actually I am just a buyer of the product you are hucking and I'm glad as hell I never stumbled across your listing(s) and/or gave them any consideration. Some of us aren't just desperate dim-wit tweekers and we actually like to get to know the person we are entrusting our personal details with. When you come on here aggro and high on supply then sweep back through and edit out all your comments to 'nope' that says a lot about you.
Evidence speaks for themselves. You know what gives your dumb ass away? PERIOD PERIOD PERIOD SENTENCE PERIOD PERIOD PERIOD SENTENCE PERIOD PERIOD PERIOD.
Fourmz?
Trying to change your style of writing I see.
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Yeah those three periods I used after that one sentence really gave me away. It's called 'ellipses', dumbshit, and a lot of people incorporate them into their writing style! What are you, the fucking grammar polizei now???
There is a fine line between troll and vendor and you seem to not even realize a line exists. ;)
For some reason I feel like going back to the meth vendor review thread and posting a link to this just so they can all laugh at you again (in a different but just as hilarious context) in case anyone there missed it.
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Thread locked at streetelitist's request.
Libertas