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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: chil on May 10, 2013, 08:43 am

Title: Vending: To go or not to go inside the post office ?
Post by: chil on May 10, 2013, 08:43 am
I was wondering how fishy it gets when you go in the post office three times a week to send a dozen packages, as you are being filmed ?
Is it possible to send international without having to go inside the post office ?

Thanks for your thoughts....

Title: Re: Vending: To go or not to go inside the post office ?
Post by: thetopshelf on May 10, 2013, 09:04 am
paypal does, you sign and drop in blue boxes
Title: Re: Vending: To go or not to go inside the post office ?
Post by: chil on May 10, 2013, 09:28 am
paypal does, you sign and drop in blue boxes

what
Title: Re: Vending: To go or not to go inside the post office ?
Post by: tit4tat007 on May 10, 2013, 04:44 pm
I was wondering how fishy it gets when you go in the post office three times a week to send a dozen packages, as you are being filmed ?
Is it possible to send international without having to go inside the post office ?

Thanks for your thoughts....

Which country are you from? What size and weight are your shipments?

In Canada we have red boxes we can just drop them into.

If I were you I would not be going into the post office constantly, just stick to domestic. Otherwise wear things like a hat and stuff and split the drops between different PO, times, etc.
Title: Re: Vending: To go or not to go inside the post office ?
Post by: chil on May 10, 2013, 05:23 pm
I was wondering how fishy it gets when you go in the post office three times a week to send a dozen packages, as you are being filmed ?
Is it possible to send international without having to go inside the post office ?

Thanks for your thoughts....

Which country are you from? What size and weight are your shipments?

In Canada we have red boxes we can just drop them into.

If I were you I would not be going into the post office constantly, just stick to domestic. Otherwise wear things like a hat and stuff and split the drops between different PO, times, etc.

In western EU.

We also have drop boxes but I believe they are more designed for letters...even so, I think international requires you to go inside, as they deliver the customs declaration you sign and stuff, they weigh the package, etc...

Title: Re: Vending: To go or not to go inside the post office ?
Post by: thetopshelf on May 10, 2013, 08:25 pm
paypal does, you sign and drop in blue boxes

what

I thought you were a US vendor.
Paypal lets you buy/print international USPS labels that can go on flat rate box and be dropped in a blue box.
Title: Re: Vending: To go or not to go inside the post office ?
Post by: railroadbill on May 10, 2013, 09:12 pm
paypal does, you sign and drop in blue boxes

what

I thought you were a US vendor.
Paypal lets you buy/print international USPS labels that can go on flat rate box and be dropped in a blue box.

Can you do this with an unverified account?
Title: Re: Vending: To go or not to go inside the post office ?
Post by: thetopshelf on May 10, 2013, 09:51 pm
You can do it with any account with a balance on it.
So even if you bought the account on silkroad even and loaded from your btc.
google "paypal shipping link" and you'll get the link to buy postage and international postage, also UPS postage.
Title: Re: Vending: To go or not to go inside the post office ?
Post by: type on May 10, 2013, 10:25 pm
You can also load paypal with a moneypak :)
Title: Re: Vending: To go or not to go inside the post office ?
Post by: railroadbill on May 11, 2013, 05:41 pm
You can do it with any account with a balance on it.
So even if you bought the account on silkroad even and loaded from your btc.
google "paypal shipping link" and you'll get the link to buy postage and international postage, also UPS postage.

I thought SR was against selling stolen property.
Title: Re: Vending: To go or not to go inside the post office ?
Post by: super-silk-woman on May 11, 2013, 05:49 pm
I got a verified Paypal and Ebay account  if anyone is interested. Perfect for this kind of situation.
Title: Re: Vending: To go or not to go inside the post office ?
Post by: Libertas on May 11, 2013, 07:24 pm
I got a verified Paypal and Ebay account  if anyone is interested. Perfect for this kind of situation.

Have you got a vendor account? Sales are NOT permitted without one.

I thought SR was against selling stolen property.

You are 100% correct, railroadbill. Silk Road does not allow the sale of stolen property, but PayPal and eBay accounts are not always stolen.

Libertas
Title: Re: Vending: To go or not to go inside the post office ?
Post by: pine on May 11, 2013, 08:47 pm
Of course it is possible, just ask your post office people about it in your location. Businesses account for the majority of mail and they do this all the time.

You will have to buy a quality weight scales and have a measuring tape. Don't overstamp or understamp, get it just right to the nearest stamp.
Title: Re: Vending: To go or not to go inside the post office ?
Post by: railroadbill on May 11, 2013, 09:31 pm
I thought SR was against selling stolen property.

You are 100% correct, railroadbill. Silk Road does not allow the sale of stolen property, but PayPal and eBay accounts are not always stolen.

Libertas

I dont follow, in what instance is having a paypal account thats not yours 'not stolen'? Paypal accounts are linked to bank accounts, are you saying people are selling access to their bank accounts?
Title: Re: Vending: To go or not to go inside the post office ?
Post by: Libertas on May 11, 2013, 09:36 pm
I thought SR was against selling stolen property.

You are 100% correct, railroadbill. Silk Road does not allow the sale of stolen property, but PayPal and eBay accounts are not always stolen.

Libertas

I dont follow, in what instance is having a paypal account thats not yours 'not stolen'? Paypal accounts are linked to bank accounts, are you saying people are selling access to their bank accounts?

PayPal accounts are not linked to bank accounts by default; there are many different ways to fund PayPal accounts. Furthermore, some people are capable of setting up bank accounts with fake identification making it possible to have a PayPal account that IS linked to a bank account which it is not possible to identify the true owner of.

Sale of stolen goods is not permitted on Silk Road, but sale of legitimate goods is.

Libertas
Title: Re: Vending: To go or not to go inside the post office ?
Post by: railroadbill on May 11, 2013, 09:51 pm
Oh, how do i go about getting a forged bank account in the US? Dont see that service anywhere.
Title: Re: Vending: To go or not to go inside the post office ?
Post by: Libertas on May 11, 2013, 10:11 pm
Oh, how do i go about getting a forged bank account in the US? Dont see that service anywhere.

It is highly unlikely that anyone you find on the deepweb will be providing such a service. If you see it advertised it is most likely a scam. However, there is at least one genuine vendor on Silk Road offering a fully anonymous bank account for a price (though I believe this is based in a European bank).

Libertas
Title: Re: Vending: To go or not to go inside the post office ?
Post by: super-silk-woman on May 15, 2013, 03:24 am
I am planning on starting a vendors account soon. Still working on my security.

These vsrified accounts you are talking about with bank accounts hooked up to them is what I have and one of the things I want to offer in the US only. I cant do much internationally.
Just getting the word out and getting some ideas along the way.
:-*
Title: Re: Vending: To go or not to go inside the post office ?
Post by: zxydwx3 on May 15, 2013, 11:29 am
My neighbor runs a home based business repairing items. He gets dozens of legitimate packages a week (both supplies and stuff to fix), and sends out a substantial number too. He goes in to the Post Office every day and is either dropping off parcels or picking up, or both. It's not the slightest bit strange to the the people working at the P.O. in fact, that's what the P.O. is there for, for people to send stuff. Why would the P.O. staff think it was suspicious if you act normal and not paranoid?

IMO, someone who is trying to disguise some illegitimate packages might also be buying and selling legitimate stuff on eBay or Amazon, so the *special* parcels just blend in with the rest. It seems like good cover to me, but obviously I've only ever sold legitimate items. In the 2 years when I was an eBay seller (and frequent buyer), I never had a single parcel examined or lost, out of over 2200 transactions. This was all with Canada Post FWIW.
Title: Re: Vending: To go or not to go inside the post office ?
Post by: RxKing on May 15, 2013, 12:21 pm
Oh, how do i go about getting a forged bank account in the US? Dont see that service anywhere.

It is highly unlikely that anyone you find on the deepweb will be providing such a service. If you see it advertised it is most likely a scam. However, there is at least one genuine vendor on Silk Road offering a fully anonymous bank account for a price (though I believe this is based in a European bank).

Libertas

Did I miss something? Didn't the OP say he was in EU? If he did then this could be an option for the OP and it wouold be great  it is a EU bank....

If so ...then Pine are  actually giving him the advice that he should set up a business account at the local post office in EU??????

That a vendor, sending drugs internationally, should set up a business account at his local bank? And you believe or know that EU post offices do this?

Also I think a lot of people are giving you advice based on what Americans do....and that is you in NO WAY raise a flag going to the post office 3 days a week in USA. As MANY MANY MANY ebayer's for example go every day.  And to be honest if you are anywhere in the world...what really matters is what drugs are you selling?

As selling weed ...smelly.. is a bad idea to go into a post office...BUT selling pills would be a no brainer...

Good luck
Title: Re: Vending: To go or not to go inside the post office ?
Post by: Libertas on May 15, 2013, 12:32 pm
Oh, how do i go about getting a forged bank account in the US? Dont see that service anywhere.

It is highly unlikely that anyone you find on the deepweb will be providing such a service. If you see it advertised it is most likely a scam. However, there is at least one genuine vendor on Silk Road offering a fully anonymous bank account for a price (though I believe this is based in a European bank).

Libertas

Did I miss something? Didn't the OP say he was in EU? If he did then this could be an option for the OP and it wouold be great  it is a EU bank....

You missed a little, RxKing. ;) OP says he is in EU, but my response was to railroadbill, who is in the US. :P

Libertas
Title: Re: Vending: To go or not to go inside the post office ?
Post by: londonpride2 on May 15, 2013, 02:45 pm
I was wondering how fishy it gets when you go in the post office three times a week to send a dozen packages, as you are being filmed ?
Is it possible to send international without having to go inside the post office ?

Thanks for your thoughts....

Its not fishy could easily be a little ebay business but they will have you on film. *shrugs* dunno never sold drugs.