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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: mollytherat on May 08, 2013, 10:56 pm

Title: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: mollytherat on May 08, 2013, 10:56 pm
Looks like this scammer bit the dust.

I had an order in escrow with him that I never received. It is two days out from resolution dead line. Am I likely to get my money back?

Thanks and regards.

Rejoice all, the wicked old witch at last is dead!
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: SamGiancana on May 08, 2013, 10:59 pm
75 k later...
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: mollytherat on May 08, 2013, 11:00 pm
I would ask how you can sleep at night, but I know it's on a bed of stolen cash.

I really hope something horrible happens to you.
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: pingpo_125 on May 08, 2013, 11:02 pm
Clever cunt! Let's track the fucker down and break every bone is the lowlife scumbags body!! whose in?
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: pingpo_125 on May 08, 2013, 11:04 pm
75 k later...

75k dream on mate!!
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: Libertas on May 08, 2013, 11:12 pm
Looks like this scammer bit the dust.

I had an order in escrow with him that I never received. It is two days out from resolution dead line. Am I likely to get my money back?

Thanks and regards.

Rejoice all, the wicked old witch at last is dead!

Yes, you will receive a full refund. Put it into resolution and request 100%.

75 k later...

You're a scumbag, SamGiancana. >:(

Libertas
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: mollytherat on May 08, 2013, 11:14 pm
Looks like this scammer bit the dust.

I had an order in escrow with him that I never received. It is two days out from resolution dead line. Am I likely to get my money back?

Thanks and regards.

Rejoice all, the wicked old witch at last is dead!

Good news :D.

Thanks for answering my question.
Yes, you will receive a full. Put it into resolution and request 100%.

75 k later...

You're a scumbag, SamGiancana. >:(

Libertas
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: P2P on May 08, 2013, 11:17 pm
Provided you were in escrow, you will certainly get a full refund. Good luck, friend.
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: joolz on May 08, 2013, 11:19 pm
was reported weeks ago  >:(
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: Libertas on May 08, 2013, 11:25 pm
was reported weeks ago  >:(

Unfortunately due to the DDoS issues all hands were preoccupied with securing the site and dealing with the aftermath. A vendor must receive X amount of reports before they are suspended, and investigative action is taken when those reports are seen by an Administrator.

All buyers please note for future issues with any vendor: if they are scamming, or there are issues (apart from resolution issues), please click the 'report this vendor' link on their vendor page!

Libertas
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: michael58 on May 08, 2013, 11:47 pm
There's a special place in hell for scumbags like Sam ...... Yes I did an FE like lots of other people ....... his feedback was 98 plus with virtually no negative comments when I placed my order. I wasn't taken in by the extra 20 % .... I was simply looking for a quality vendor. My purchase / loss was minimal ($70) by comparison. NEVER EVER will I FE again. This should be a lesson to the entire community as to how quickly you can be taken even by those who appear to be legit. One thing I will never be able to figure out is why so many people continued doing an FE even with horrendous feedback staring them right in the face. I mean really.... what was the motivation, did they think one in five buyers were pulling the scam. It would be interesting to ear from someone who placed an FE with Sam in the last 3 - 5 days. Lessons learned people.
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: scout on May 08, 2013, 11:55 pm
Finally!  Shitty scumbag.
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: LEFTY on May 09, 2013, 02:04 am
I knew he was scum after all the Bullshit stories he started threads on here - "the guys busting in and robbing him" was the lamest. Goodbye you piece of shit.
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: StonedAge on May 09, 2013, 02:09 am
POS, karma is real. and she's a bitch!
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: joolz on May 09, 2013, 07:46 am
 why did it take so long  >:( he was reported loads of times.
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: joolz on May 09, 2013, 07:48 am
 when he was first reported why didnt you freeze his money?
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: kodiakx on May 09, 2013, 08:05 am
can you cancel order?
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: joolz on May 09, 2013, 08:26 am
can you cancel order?
if youve got the option , its next to the resolve button and highlighted in blue but he probably put it in transit so you couldnt  but Sr SHOULD refund it if its still in escrow   ???
good luck
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: joolz on May 09, 2013, 02:56 pm
the can freeze his money  if its still there   ???
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: Libertas on May 09, 2013, 05:42 pm
why did it take so long  >:( he was reported loads of times.

Please refer to my earlier post in this very thread:

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=157468.msg1106477#msg1106477

Libertas
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: scout on May 09, 2013, 07:43 pm
Another reason it took a long time (other than the fact that the site was under heavy attack recently) is that SamGiancana had been banned before.  When that happened, admins were sure that they were making the right decision, but he presented some kind of evidence that put it all into question, so his vendor status was reinstated.  What that meant for this most recent banning is that admins had to be even more certain and find even more proof before they banned him again.

Looks like they were right (like most of us thought!) the first time they banned that douche!
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: joolz on May 09, 2013, 11:15 pm
nice one lads  ;)
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: scout on May 10, 2013, 01:12 am
nice one lads  ;)

I think I may have annoyed the hell out of SR Support this past week though ... must've sent upwards of a dozen or so messages as more info came in.  Poor inigo was probably buried by "MORE INFO ON SAMGIANCANA" messages.  lol.
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: burneraccountone on May 10, 2013, 02:04 am
This thread is a glass and a half of a very dark laugh. Very first scam thread I read when I came to the forums was about Samgiancana. I thought he left months ago.
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: NoAddedSugar on May 10, 2013, 02:36 am
If people don't read the forums, they weren't to know without checking feedback, he was top of the lists for stimulants, and they're listed in order of popularity. Someone said last week, that this is a shopping site like Amazon, and people don't check the Amazon forums, not everyone is into social networking. Some of us just want to buy drugs in a safe way with no hassle. We generally put our faith into presumptions a lot of the time, hey, he's top of the list, most popular crack. Also, drug users IRL aren't known for being trustworthy, so who do you believe if you look at some negative feedback? The vendor who spend $100's buying his vendor account, or a buyer/potential opportunist thief? I have only just started using the forums because of a few shared mix-ups from a vendor this last week. I now see them as invaluable research and communication tools. Good luck to all fellow travelers in finding, avoiding and reporting future scammers.  Hope all deals go smoothly from now on. Peace
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: michael58 on May 10, 2013, 02:53 am
I have to agree with the forums being an invaluable tool. But negative feedback is a huge red flag and near the end Sam had a ton of negative feedback. I know because some of it was mine and I was no lone ranger. I have a hard time feeling sorry for anyone who would do an FE with multiple people complaining of 1) No communication after FE ...2) Sam lying to his customers ......3) issuing bogus tracking numbers 4) claims of a hacker getting control of his account or ....5) ALL of the above.  There comes a time and point where common sense should prevail. He wasn't the only swinging dick selling drugs on SR now was he ???? I can only hope he gets his in the end ...... as one poster said Karma is a bitch
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: theJohnDoeboys on May 10, 2013, 02:59 am
Bastards like him have and will continue to make it harder for genuine sellers...but live and learn. Good luck with your situation pal :(
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: Mammal on May 10, 2013, 03:39 am
I was one of those who sits in the background and trolls the forums. Luckily I did cause I DIDNT finalise on a 100G order with the cocksucker.

Decided to register an account and try spam to 50 yesterday. This whole spamming shit has really turned me off registering an account for a long while but now I understand everyones voices does need to be heard when it comes to vendors like this cunt.

Now all my funds are tied up in the resolution center. I hope admins could just check every order placed with this guy and refund all moneys back. Over 3 weeks now arguing with him, him trying to push to FE etc etc now I just wanna place another order...

This whole experience has nearly put me off this website completely however I know DPR is doing as much as possible with the current mods so I decide to stay loyal. Id hope in the future we could have a few more people who deal with the resolution center and a few more moderators on the forums would also help significantly IMO.

This whole spam to 50 shit is just not the way to go, I think about all the people like me who just cannot voice their opinion cause they dont understand why they cant post in the major fourms...

As I said to SamGiancana, some traditional tribesmen of my people will be casting black magic over him causing utter misery with the funds he stole off the noobs/unsuspecting innocent customers of this great site. I dont give a fuck if people do or dont believe in that shit but I know one thing, when he tries to return to get it removed - I wont be here for the dog to remove it!.

Regards.
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: yearziro on May 10, 2013, 03:48 am
Sucks for the ones who got burnt....

I guess it would be wise for most to only deal with sellers for a short amount of time seeing as there really is no reporcussion for stealing and all you really have to do is build some good feedback reel in some buyers over time increase the amounts you move and one day bolt

ESCROW ESCROW ESCROW

Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: thedeepweb22 on May 10, 2013, 04:36 am
i orded a package from this kunt 3 weeks ago
hes feedback was perfect i read it for hours
maybe i will get lucky and it will turn up because i didnt FE until a few days after he put in transit
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: scout on May 10, 2013, 05:23 am
i orded a package from this kunt 3 weeks ago
hes feedback was perfect i read it for hours
maybe i will get lucky and it will turn up because i didnt FE until a few days after he put in transit

Don't get your hopes up too high - he probably just marked it in transit so you'd think it was on its way and then FE.
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: canucklehead6 on May 11, 2013, 12:43 pm
Yeah, I did the same thing! Saw it was in transit and FE'd, silly prick, never again! Lesson learned!  >:(
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: clpicard1 on May 11, 2013, 01:06 pm
I never before understood all the viloence behind drugs... but after seeing that mother fucking bragiing about stealing 75k from people.. I hope him and his entire family die horribly FUCK YOU SAM U PIECE OF SHIT... Here is my ripp off story  as sent to sr support:
.
************
.
d    Hello Silk Road suppport. I have been ripped off
by vendor samgiancana. As you can see he manipulated
me into Fe and he never intended on delivering the
product. Is there any way I can get my bitcons back.
Here is our e-mail exchanges. As you can see
he responded 9 times to me in Pm. then
after i did fe and sent him additional bc that he
asked for, he has not responded since. He has been on, cuz he continues
to update his profile asking people to Fe. Please help,
this is the fourth time I have been ripped off or given
crappy product. Here is our e-mail exchange


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SamGiancana(96) sounds good!@ 3 days read
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clpicard ok I did fe early and sent you 0.6 bc. I havw $2.23 n my account. Also I gave you really good feedback. looking forward to the product
.
thanks again u have been great,
.
clpicard 3 days read
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SamGiancana(96) get rid of the (99)

just put

samgiancana 3 days read
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clpicard I have .6 Bc remaining when I paste in SamGiancana(99) intom send to user and i get USER DOES NOT EXIST what am I doing wrong 3 days read
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SamGiancana(96) Should be able to now!
Send the remaining coins to my username, thanks! 3 days read
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clpicard HI Sam I have to head home from work. I still cant Fe on the order. I will look at this later tonight or early tomorrow morning about 600am Pacific daylight time.
.
clpicard 3 days read
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clpicard Hi Sam per your instructions purchased 1 gr plus .35 bc shipping ( for 2 day delivery) and you will send me 2.65 grams about.. I show as being processing i can not FE yet. When you have it, could you please provide tracking number... if you hand those out 3 days read
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SamGiancana(96) cheers! 3 days read
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clpicard awesome thnx money should be here in about 45 minutes to an hour will do what we said then pm u after done
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SamGiancana(96) It helps me plenty if you do FE and in return I'll top you up with extra weight!

For the 2.12
purchase 1 G plus that shipping option,
and then I'll give you approx 2.65 grams in weight as a thanks for your first purchase! 3 days read
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clpicard
Hi Sam.. I want to make sure i am not being misleading...
.
These are the last two purchases of bit coins:
.
Amount Received 1.60 BTC
From Coinbase (transfers@coinbase.com)
To You
Date May 02, 2013, at [REDACTED]
Status Complete
Notes

Paid for with $210.93 from [REDACTED]
.
Amount Received 0.40 BTC
From Coinbase (transfers@coinbase.com)
To You
Date May 02, 2013, at [REDACTED]
Status Complete
Notes

Paid for with $53.31 from [REDACTED].
.
So if pricem did not go down the nalance should have been $264.. Us

this is balance of my coinbase wallet after transfer completed:
.
Balance: 2.12251506 BTC ≈ 221.03 USD ***** so it looks like I lost about 40 dollars
.
Here is my transfer to sr:
.
Amount Sent 2.1124 BTC
From You
To 1MiQrdBcabm4NFTz2FGMmS7VNW9nhFmEru
Date May 02, 2013, at [REDACTED]
.
I will buy 1 gram plus shipping and send the balance to you.. and just to make sure.. I NEED TO FE is this correct? 3 days read
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SamGiancana(96) If it is 2.6 I'll give you 3 - 3.5

Just pruchase the 1 g listing + shipping and send the rest! 3 days read
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clpicard great thnx this is a bit confusing i purchased about $260. worth of bit coin at about 130/bc which means 2 bc if the price went down to say 100/ per b/c does that mean that I now have 2.6 bit coins now? 3 days read
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SamGiancana(96) you can order the 1 gram w/ shipping and send the remainder to my username and I'll give you a total or 2 or more G's :) 3 days read
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clpicard With shipping ( I plan to do .35 bc shipping. I need it here by next tuesday at the latest) it will be about 2 bitcoins i will .. they bc priced dropped like $30 per BC since i ordered i was planning on buying 2 grams so i think i will only be able to order 1 gram plus shipping... unless u know of another way to order.


thnx again for your feedback 3 days read
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SamGiancana(96) Ok cool!
What amount of bitcoin?
I'll work out a generous custom amount for your first order! 3 days read
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clpicard Thanks sam . have to wait an hour for coinbase then transfer to sr

.
From Coinbase (transfers@coinbase.com)
To You
Date April 27, 2013, at 05:39pm PDT
Status Pending Your BTC will arrive on Thursday May 2, 2013 [REDACTED] after the bank transfer has completed.
.
then will place order
.
glad to do business with you 3 days read
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SamGiancana(96) the .35 is approx 2 days
the other is approx 4 days
regular probably 5 - 6 days

I'll package your order right now if you FE for 20 % more and get it done!

Yeah screw the teflondon guy... I don't even like thinking about that shit!
Thanks for the business brother! 3 days read
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clpicard Hi Sam. I have read your posts and other peoples feedback in the forums. You seem like a very stand up and professional person. I .. like u .. was ripped off by teflon don.. THE BASTARD.. sorry u lost so much...and in another transaction the product was terrible.. so I am a bit gun shy with Fe. I think I will take a chance with you though and FE. I have a question for US tracking for .35 bc is that the same as express mail? How fast will it take to get to san jose california? If i do regular shipping with Fe how long will that take to get to san jose , ca. finally if i do Fe early how do u know so that I get 20% more??? do i put in feedack Fe early for 20% extra??
.
Thanks for your time,
.
clpicard 3 days read
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Regards   clpicard

##########

What the hell clpicard1?! This is not amazon.com, DO NOT release identifying information!!!

Identifying information redacted.

Libertas

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Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: joolz on May 11, 2013, 01:14 pm
Beware the    FE          SCAM  :(
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: clpicard1 on May 11, 2013, 01:23 pm
Hi Joolz. thanks for the advice  i learn a lot from your posts. in the future i will

1) Check vendor for percentage.. Is it trsnding up or down.
2) is vendor trolling for people to Fe
3) is vendor offering more than what u r paying for ( i.e. 20% more), do people get what vendor promissed
4) is product being delivered per customer feedback
5) are there multiple Fes with no update that product has arrived
6) do a thorough search of forums on person i want to buy from
7) Stop being a dope fiend  looking for cheapest price or in a hurry to get my product
8) finally   NEVER NEVER MEVER FE AGAIN
.
CLPICARD
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: smokecrack on May 11, 2013, 01:33 pm
I never before understood all the viloence behind drugs... but after seeing that mother fucking bragiing about stealing 75k from people.. I hope him and his entire family die horribly FUCK YOU SAM U PIECE OF SHIT... Here is my ripp off story  as sent to sr support:
.
************
.
d    Hello Silk Road suppport. I have been ripped off
by vendor samgiancana. As you can see he manipulated
me into Fe and he never intended on delivering the
product. Is there any way I can get my bitcons back.
Here is our e-mail exchanges. As you can see
he responded 9 times to me in Pm. then
after i did fe and sent him additional bc that he
asked for, he has not responded since. He has been on, cuz he continues
to update his profile asking people to Fe. Please help,
this is the fourth time I have been ripped off or given
crappy product. Here is our e-mail exchange


1 day unread
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SamGiancana(96) sounds good!@ 3 days read
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clpicard ok I did fe early and sent you 0.6 bc. I havw $2.23 n my account. Also I gave you really good feedback. looking forward to the product
.
thanks again u have been great,
.
clpicard 3 days read
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SamGiancana(96) get rid of the (99)

just put

samgiancana 3 days read
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clpicard I have .6 Bc remaining when I paste in SamGiancana(99) intom send to user and i get USER DOES NOT EXIST what am I doing wrong 3 days read
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SamGiancana(96) Should be able to now!
Send the remaining coins to my username, thanks! 3 days read
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clpicard HI Sam I have to head home from work. I still cant Fe on the order. I will look at this later tonight or early tomorrow morning about 600am Pacific daylight time.
.
clpicard 3 days read
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clpicard Hi Sam per your instructions purchased 1 gr plus .35 bc shipping ( for 2 day delivery) and you will send me 2.65 grams about.. I show as being processing i can not FE yet. When you have it, could you please provide tracking number... if you hand those out 3 days read
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SamGiancana(96) cheers! 3 days read
delete
1 2

clpicard awesome thnx money should be here in about 45 minutes to an hour will do what we said then pm u after done
3 days read
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SamGiancana(96) It helps me plenty if you do FE and in return I'll top you up with extra weight!

For the 2.12
purchase 1 G plus that shipping option,
and then I'll give you approx 2.65 grams in weight as a thanks for your first purchase! 3 days read
delete
clpicard
Hi Sam.. I want to make sure i am not being misleading...
.
These are the last two purchases of bit coins:
.
Amount Received 1.60 BTC
From Coinbase (transfers@coinbase.com)
To You
Date May 02, 2013, at [REDACTED]
Status Complete
Notes

Paid for with $210.93 from [REDACTED]
.
Amount Received 0.40 BTC
From Coinbase (transfers@coinbase.com)
To You
Date May 02, 2013, at [REDACTED]
Status Complete
Notes

Paid for with $53.31 from [REDACTED].
.
So if pricem did not go down the nalance should have been $264.. Us

this is balance of my coinbase wallet after transfer completed:
.
Balance: 2.12251506 BTC ≈ 221.03 USD ***** so it looks like I lost about 40 dollars
.
Here is my transfer to sr:
.
Amount Sent 2.1124 BTC
From You
To 1MiQrdBcabm4NFTz2FGMmS7VNW9nhFmEru
Date May 02, 2013, at [REDACTED]
.
I will buy 1 gram plus shipping and send the balance to you.. and just to make sure.. I NEED TO FE is this correct? 3 days read
delete
SamGiancana(96) If it is 2.6 I'll give you 3 - 3.5

Just pruchase the 1 g listing + shipping and send the rest! 3 days read
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clpicard great thnx this is a bit confusing i purchased about $260. worth of bit coin at about 130/bc which means 2 bc if the price went down to say 100/ per b/c does that mean that I now have 2.6 bit coins now? 3 days read
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SamGiancana(96) you can order the 1 gram w/ shipping and send the remainder to my username and I'll give you a total or 2 or more G's :) 3 days read
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clpicard With shipping ( I plan to do .35 bc shipping. I need it here by next tuesday at the latest) it will be about 2 bitcoins i will .. they bc priced dropped like $30 per BC since i ordered i was planning on buying 2 grams so i think i will only be able to order 1 gram plus shipping... unless u know of another way to order.


thnx again for your feedback 3 days read
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SamGiancana(96) Ok cool!
What amount of bitcoin?
I'll work out a generous custom amount for your first order! 3 days read
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clpicard Thanks sam . have to wait an hour for coinbase then transfer to sr

.
From Coinbase (transfers@coinbase.com)
To You
Date April 27, 2013, at 05:39pm PDT
Status Pending Your BTC will arrive on Thursday May 2, 2013 [REDACTED] after the bank transfer has completed.
.
then will place order
.
glad to do business with you 3 days read
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SamGiancana(96) the .35 is approx 2 days
the other is approx 4 days
regular probably 5 - 6 days

I'll package your order right now if you FE for 20 % more and get it done!

Yeah screw the teflondon guy... I don't even like thinking about that shit!
Thanks for the business brother! 3 days read
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clpicard Hi Sam. I have read your posts and other peoples feedback in the forums. You seem like a very stand up and professional person. I .. like u .. was ripped off by teflon don.. THE BASTARD.. sorry u lost so much...and in another transaction the product was terrible.. so I am a bit gun shy with Fe. I think I will take a chance with you though and FE. I have a question for US tracking for .35 bc is that the same as express mail? How fast will it take to get to san jose california? If i do regular shipping with Fe how long will that take to get to san jose , ca. finally if i do Fe early how do u know so that I get 20% more??? do i put in feedack Fe early for 20% extra??
.
Thanks for your time,
.
clpicard 3 days read
delete
< 1 2
.
Regards   clpicard

##########

What the hell clpicard1?! This is not amazon.com, DO NOT release identifying information!!!

Identifying information redacted.

Libertas

##########

i bet you 10mbits that you do your banking with [REDACTED] and that your account number ends in [REDACTED]
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: Darktime on May 11, 2013, 02:15 pm
Bank name,transaction times [REDACTED]? ??? ??? ??? ? Are you nuts? this is very specific info that the feds could use,if they can be bothered but still dude,do not reveal any info about yourself or even where your from apart from country only.
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: Darktime on May 11, 2013, 02:20 pm
An anagram of Samgiancana is- A scam in gana. gana being the Sanskrit for multitude. :o
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: smokecrack on May 11, 2013, 02:21 pm
Bank name,transaction times [REDACTED]? ??? ??? ??? ? Are you nuts? this is very specific info that the feds could use,if they can be bothered but still dude,do not reveal any info about yourself or even where your from apart from country only.

i overlooked his city. keen eye for detail sir. ;)
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: michael58 on May 11, 2013, 03:19 pm
I want to echo The comments on revealing ANY information that LE can link back to an individual. I first saw this post on SAM's feedback page and at least twice on the forums. After it is posted once it's game over and your personal information has been compromised. I believe that one of the Moderators has stated publicly that the forums don't have the security level the the SR site does.Would a moderator please re-post that information for all to see. If I had to guess I would guess that clipboard is young and inexperienced. Clipboard I'm not pinging on you but this is a serious endeavor you have embarked on and you should look before you leap ...... the consequences could be dire. Sorry you were taken ...... so was and I and a multitude of others but there has to be a certain level of taking responsibility when you FE. We all learned a valuable lesson.
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: Perrey on May 11, 2013, 05:27 pm
Hello. the following is my story with that eff head sam. I sent iin report vendor amd also opened a support ticket. sam is an effing liar  and he had no intention of ever sending me anything. here is the report:
.
Hello Silk Road suppport. I have been ripped off
by vendor samgiancana. As you can see he manipulated
me into Fe and he never intended on delivering the
product. Is there any way I can get my bitcons back.
Here is our e-mail exchanges. As you can see
he responded 9 times to me in Pm. then
after i did fe and sent him additional bc that he
asked for, he has not responded since. He has been on, cuz he continues
to update his profile asking people to Fe. Please help,
this is the fourth time I have been ripped off or given
crappy product. Here is our e-mail exchange

Why are you writing to support? What do you expect? You should know that you loose all rights/protection after you've FE'd..

Unbelievable how many noobies that expects compensation for stupidity.. Just swallow and learn from your mistake.

I lost $50 to Sam - it sucks but its part of this dirty game.

Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: Mammal on May 11, 2013, 05:40 pm
Wishing admins would step in for all orders in the resolution center that are "Under Review" with this vendor! Sheesh, how long do we have to wait for a refund? Its been under review for days now, clearly there is enough evidence to support the return of funds lol.....
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: Andrewbud420 on May 11, 2013, 06:31 pm
75 k later...


Wow big man... Has connections for Meth in Canada yippy fucking doo... Fucking country is flooded with the shit.  Sells garbage everything else. 

Probably owes everything he stole to his drug dealer(s) because all he does is stay up 24/7 all methed out trying to con people in to FE's on SR......

What did you do before this? Punch 70 year old ladies in the face and take their purse for meth $$$.....
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: Mangauser on May 11, 2013, 07:15 pm
So HE Scammed Lots Of People? Also I Think He Will Come Scammers Never Stop Stealing Money from slikroad
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: smokecrack on May 11, 2013, 07:58 pm
how is anyone surprised? i read about him scamming like 5 weeks ago...
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: Libertas on May 11, 2013, 08:48 pm
I want to echo The comments on revealing ANY information that LE can link back to an individual. I first saw this post on SAM's feedback page and at least twice on the forums. After it is posted once it's game over and your personal information has been compromised. I believe that one of the Moderators has stated publicly that the forums don't have the security level the the SR site does.Would a moderator please re-post that information for all to see. If I had to guess I would guess that clipboard is young and inexperienced. Clipboard I'm not pinging on you but this is a serious endeavor you have embarked on and you should look before you leap ...... the consequences could be dire. Sorry you were taken ...... so was and I and a multitude of others but there has to be a certain level of taking responsibility when you FE. We all learned a valuable lesson.

The Silk Road forum is searchable on Google as a result of services such as onion.to and the like. As a result, any information that you post here IS likely to end up searchable on the clearnet. This is not amazon.com, nor the amazon.com forums, and should not be treated as such.

Libertas
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: Libertas on May 11, 2013, 08:53 pm
If people don't read the forums, they weren't to know without checking feedback, he was top of the lists for stimulants, and they're listed in order of popularity. Someone said last week, that this is a shopping site like Amazon, and people don't check the Amazon forums, not everyone is into social networking. Some of us just want to buy drugs in a safe way with no hassle. We generally put our faith into presumptions a lot of the time, hey, he's top of the list, most popular crack. Also, drug users IRL aren't known for being trustworthy, so who do you believe if you look at some negative feedback? The vendor who spend $100's buying his vendor account, or a buyer/potential opportunist thief? I have only just started using the forums because of a few shared mix-ups from a vendor this last week. I now see them as invaluable research and communication tools. Good luck to all fellow travelers in finding, avoiding and reporting future scammers.  Hope all deals go smoothly from now on. Peace

Silk Road is NOT a shopping site like Amazon. It is a site where the majority of people purchasing on it are purchasing items that are illegal in their jurisdictions. Do NOT treat it as anything less.

As you said, the Silk Road forums are an invaluable tool that should be utilised previous to purchasing anything on the main site. However, as a result of clearnet services such as onion.to the entire forum is searchable by Google. Again, this is not Amazon. Act at ALL times as though the police are watching your every move. There is no security but the security that you, yourself, employ. The default security that is in place can not protect you if you choose to void it by doing something contrary to best practice.

Libertas
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: DrCol on May 11, 2013, 09:14 pm
Ha
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: Ѕpongebоb on May 11, 2013, 09:20 pm
It's a lot more like an ebay with anonymous sellers and more buyer protection.
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: BlackIris on May 11, 2013, 09:22 pm
75 k later...

You smile, isn't it? But weren't you a buyer before becoming a vendor? If that's so somebody has an address of yours (it doesn't matter if it's not in your real name, some information will still be there, and certain "things" you cannot avoid, differently from people coming after you).

If the vendor from whom SamGiancana ordered is around can he please contact me by PM giving me that info? Thanks.

Let's see how you will smile if I receive this info (probably it will not happen, but luck comes and goes, you know).

Never watched "Bring me to hell"? Movies sometimes are truer to reality than you can suppose... I don't usually lose time for imbeciles or for those which life pathetic, but you have even the courage of making irony? It will be time well spent.
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: Libertas on May 11, 2013, 09:26 pm
75 k later...

You smile, isn't it? But weren't you a buyer before becoming a vendor? If that's so somebody has an address of yours (it doesn't matter if it's not in your real name, some information will still be there, and certain things you cannot avoid, differently from people).

If the vendor from whom SamGiancana ordered is around can he please contact me by PM giving me that info? Thanks.

Let's see how you will smile if I receive this info (probably it will not happen, but luck comes and goes, you know).

Never watched "bring me to hell"? Movies sometimes are truer to reality than you can suppose... I don't usually lose time for imbeciles, but you have even the courage of making irony? It will be time well spent.

Vendors start fresh accounts to upgrade to a vendor account - I highly doubt there are any vendors that use their previous buyer account for vending, or currently buy from their vendor account.

Either way, anonymity is a pillar of this community. If we wish to ensure that there is anonymity for ourselves, we must ensure that anonymity is protected for all.

Libertas
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: BlackIris on May 11, 2013, 09:31 pm
Vendors start fresh accounts to upgrade to a vendor account - I highly doubt there are any vendors that use their previous buyer account for vending, or currently buy from their vendor account.

Either way, anonymity is a pillar of this community. If we wish to ensure that there is anonymity for ourselves, we must ensure that anonymity is protected for all.

Libertas

I understand, and I know the chance is next to none, but I had to try. It can also be that some vendor while not naturally saving the address can remember something, you never know, and as for the fact that he didn't use the same handle, well, I don't actually think the guy is as smart as he think he is and he surely committed some error somewhere (it is just that the good anonymity on which SR is build is actually a sort of shield for him now, sadly).

It's just that I cannot stand that this guy also has the audacity of making fun of people he scammed. This guy has no dignity; I would understand he did it for need or similar, but he just did it intentionally to steal from people that just wanted to make serious trades (and he did earn good money just by doing this without need of stealing).
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: Libertas on May 11, 2013, 09:39 pm
Vendors start fresh accounts to upgrade to a vendor account - I highly doubt there are any vendors that use their previous buyer account for vending, or currently buy from their vendor account.

Either way, anonymity is a pillar of this community. If we wish to ensure that there is anonymity for ourselves, we must ensure that anonymity is protected for all.

Libertas

I understand, and I know the chance is next to none, but I had to try. It can also be that some vendor while not naturally saving the address can remember something, you never know, and as for the fact that he didn't use the same handle, well, I don't actually think the guy is as smart as he think he is and he surely committed some error somewhere (it is just that the good anonymity on which SR is build is actually a sort of shield for him now, sadly).

It's just that I cannot stand that this guy also has the audacity of making fun of people he scammed. This guy has no dignity; I would understand he did it for need or similar, but he just did it intentionally to steal from people that just wanted to make serious trades (and he did earn good money just by doing this without need of stealing).

I agree, the guy is a scumbag, but releasing information that can de-anonymise a person - regardless of their actions - is against Silk Road policy.

Libertas
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: hands off black 7 on May 12, 2013, 07:02 am
Fuck. I ddn't know.....
 I'm in escrow of course, but his feedback was fine when I ordered and the prick put it in transit 10 seconds after I pulled the trigger.
I had no idea he was scamming... Ah well, the search continues for a reliable and stealthy meth vendor. :(
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: clpicard1 on May 13, 2013, 06:25 am
To all on silk road  I say publicaly and admit. I am an effing idiot.. I was so pissed off at being ripped off iby sam ( and teflon don before that) all i wanted to do is get back at him and did not pay attention to what I posted. Thank you for pointing this out..I probably would have done it again if you did not let me know.  It WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN.  i am sorry for this stupid mistaKe.  I am going to have to close my account and open another one.
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Thanks again,
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clpicard
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: Aktion1314 on May 17, 2013, 11:25 pm
An anagram of Samgiancana is- A scam in gana. gana being the Sanskrit for multitude. :o

Brilliant! Thanks for making me smile after getting burnt by this absolute shithead.
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: Andrewbud420 on May 20, 2013, 11:44 pm
I have an address for PeoplesDrugStore, if anyone got burned by him :P
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: Libertas on May 21, 2013, 12:01 am
I have an address for PeoplesDrugStore, if anyone got burned by him :P

If you are in possession of these details, do NOT release them on the forums. We can not expect to be entitled to anonymity if we do not afford that protection to others, regardless of their actions.

Libertas
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: NoAddedSugar on May 21, 2013, 01:51 pm
The Peoples Drug store are trading on Atlantis now, They said they were kicked off here but claimed they had done nothing wrong. What happened there? I've not been using the forums that long.
Title: Re: Samgiancana vender account deactivated.
Post by: Andrewbud420 on May 21, 2013, 09:37 pm
He sent me Methylone instead of MDMA.... straight junk....