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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: muskabuzz on May 07, 2013, 05:47 am
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The Muskabuzz recently offered a bounty for suggestions to eliminate spam in these forums. Yet as the ideas (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=110439.msg952687#msg952687) and a poll (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=110439.msg952687#msg952687) progressed something else happened: the forums dramatically cleaned up.
The day we announced the bounty, as well as nearly every day someone posted in it, the SR discussion first page was dominated by spam. This is most certainly not the case today, nor any recent day. And instead of becoming a den of accusation and paranoia during the outage these forums were precisely what SR needed, regular updates and a vital means of communications between members. The calm wisdom prevailing within these boards not only made each of us prouder to be part of SR, it showed our foul attackers what we are made of.
Whether or not anyone's specific suggestions were heeded one thing is very clear, the admins are working harder and its making a tremendous difference. We want to show thanks (and follow a suggestion by BlarghRawr) by awarding the bounty to the SR admins. And since they have not only suggested a solution, but also implemented it we are doubling the original bounty to a full 1 oz of Fleetwood (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/ccd46e0fa5) to share amongst themselves. Enjoy.
Of course there is a new problem now, we don't want to know the Admins' shipping addresses and are quite sure they feel the same. Perhaps we could put our heads together again to solve this one too, any suggestions friends?
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That is a very nice gesture indeed, muskabuzz! :)
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After reading your reviews Muska, I'm afraid you can't do this...
... See it looks like you have some fantastic weed and that would mean our lovely SR admins will smoke a bunch and then decide they need to sleep for a change :o
We don't want anymore down time ;)
Lovely offer though mate, I'm sure they'll appreciate it! If you do find a way to do this, let me know! I'll happy chip in some MDMA for them :)
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I don't think there is any way of sending them without giving up their info....So I can take it on their behalf, thanks. Lol
Nice gesture indeed.
Only way I can think of is give them coins instead of their shares of the lovely buds, So that they can purchase or keep..Or maybe gift codes,...Not sure if those get reported back to the original creator with the name of the buyer who used them...
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When my constant nagging in DPR's ear to give the mods some admin privileges to delete the scammer/spammer accounts it became a million times easier to erase all their hard work in two clicks of the mouse.
I'm not after the reward by the way, shipping weed INTO Australia would be quite problematic, unfortunately.
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When my constant nagging in DPR's ear to give the mods some admin privileges to delete the scammer/spammer accounts it became a million times easier to erase all their hard work in two clicks of the mouse.
I'm not after the reward by the way, shipping weed INTO Australia would be quite problematic, unfortunately.
I'm still forced to delete their posts one by one so you two breezing on by with your two clicks have it easy! :P I'm fairly sure I've developed arthritis in the past 4 days, and I'm pretty sure that's a record for the quickest developing arthritis ever. 8)
I wouldn't be interested in receiving the reward either though (I'm not a weed user!); perhaps muskabuzz would consider converting the reward into its BTC -equivalent and splitting it up evenly between all of the members that contributed to the anti-spam thread?
Each member that contributed could modify their previous post to include a BTC address and the BTC could be split up evenly between each unique poster.
muskabuzz, if you're up for doing that but would consider it too time-consuming I can organise it in the thread (and PM each user to let them know) and you could state a set amount of Bitcoin that is to be divided up. You could then either send the BTC amount to me and I will distribute it, providing transaction IDs in the main thread as proof of sending, or I could send it from my own Bitcoin holdings and then you can then reimburse me.
Let me know what you think! :)
Libertas
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I love talking stuff on SR, think its fun.
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Libertas: btc is not out of the question, but we'd rather have a stab at some answers first. Anonymity and liquidity of the bounty seem to go hand in hand so it's quite likely we could solve your dilemma of non-partaking with the same stroke.
We do wish to take up your kind offer with distribution help, thank you.
Should anyone come up with a solution for anonymous delivery to the admins we shall give them a share of the distribution which will be raised to an ounce and a half now. In the event of multiple collaborators the oldest (1st post) shall determine if additional shares should be issued.
Thanks very much for your time,
Muskabuzz
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No, forum moderators no longer work for free.
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Libertas: btc is not out of the question, but we'd rather have a stab at some answers first. Anonymity and liquidity of the bounty seem to go hand in hand so it's quite likely we could solve your dilemma of non-partaking with the same stroke.
We do wish to take up your kind offer with distribution help, thank you.
[SNIP]
Muskabuzz
Personally speaking, I would prefer that [at least my portion of] the bounty go to other community members, or perhaps towards a giveaway that would drum up more business for you, muskabuzz, for starting the original suggestion thread. Not sure if you need extra business judging by your stellar reputation as a vendor but how and ever! :)
Regarding help with BTC distribution, if you decide to go down that route: just let me know if/when you need me. :)
Libertas
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Libertas: thanks for the selfless consideration, but this one is most definitely for you knights.
If within the next week no one has any ideas for us to share the bounty of our latest Fleetwood harvest with the admins then lucre it shall be.
Thank you for your attention.
Muskabuzz
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Libertas: btc is not out of the question, but we'd rather have a stab at some answers first. Anonymity and liquidity of the bounty seem to go hand in hand so it's quite likely we could solve your dilemma of non-partaking with the same stroke.
We do wish to take up your kind offer with distribution help, thank you.
[SNIP]
Muskabuzz
Personally speaking, I would prefer that [at least my portion of] the bounty go to other community members, or perhaps towards a giveaway that would drum up more business for you, muskabuzz, for starting the original suggestion thread. Not sure if you need extra business judging by your stellar reputation as a vendor but how and ever! :)
Regarding help with BTC distribution, if you decide to go down that route: just let me know if/when you need me. :)
Libertas
hang on, Not that i dont think the admins do an amazing selfless job for practically nothing but helping us out, (read my previous posts, you'll see my gratification) However My idea was the one that got the most votes, And i was told by muska that im not getting the prize because the poll was widely ignored. I dont think this is very fair at all.
Surely if you create a contest and the "rules or conditions" are that the winning vote gets the bounty, Then the winning vote SHOULD get the bounty. I was watching that bloody poll for weeks happy as hell to try this new product because muska and everybody else has been bigging it up so much i just had to give it a try. And now after winning im getting nothing. I even suggested getting a portion of the bounty, But have received nothing.
Libertas do you think this is fair as a mod?
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Libertas: thanks for the selfless consideration, but this one is most definitely for you knights.
If within the next week no one has any ideas for us to share the bounty of our latest Fleetwood harvest with the admins then lucre it shall be.
Thank you for your attention.
Muskabuzz
Much obliged! :)
Regarding my own portion of what you may be donating, it will go toward a little something that the moderators have in the works. Very kind of you though, muskabuzz.
hang on, Not that i dont think the admins do an amazing selfless job for practically nothing but helping us out, (read my previous posts, you'll see my gratification) However My idea was the one that got the most votes, And i was told by muska that im not getting the prize because the poll was widely ignored. I dont think this is very fair at all.
Surely if you create a contest and the "rules or conditions" are that the winning vote gets the bounty, Then the winning vote SHOULD get the bounty. I was watching that bloody poll for weeks happy as hell to try this new product because muska and everybody else has been bigging it up so much i just had to give it a try. And now after winning im getting nothing. I even suggested getting a portion of the bounty, But have received nothing.
Libertas do you think this is fair as a mod?
'Fairness' is an entirely subjective concept - whether or not I think something is fair is irrelevant as my definition of fair, just like yours, are always going to be different from everybody else's. Furthermore, as a moderator I feel it would be best to withhold my opinion in this regard lest it influence public opinion one way or the other.
As you can see from my response to muskabuzz's post, I will not be personally benefiting from this in any way, shape or form, so I believe that what I have written above can be seen as being completely objective.
However, I will state that it IS up to muskabuzz what is done with the bounty in this instance as THEY are the ones that ran the competition. We operate within a free market; that is something that is important to keep in mind about EVERYTHING, both here and on Silk Road itself.
Libertas
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Libertas: thanks for the selfless consideration, but this one is most definitely for you knights.
If within the next week no one has any ideas for us to share the bounty of our latest Fleetwood harvest with the admins then lucre it shall be.
Thank you for your attention.
Muskabuzz
Much obliged! :)
Regarding my own portion of what you may be donating, it will go toward a little something that the moderators have in the works. Very kind of you though, muskabuzz.
hang on, Not that i dont think the admins do an amazing selfless job for practically nothing but helping us out, (read my previous posts, you'll see my gratification) However My idea was the one that got the most votes, And i was told by muska that im not getting the prize because the poll was widely ignored. I dont think this is very fair at all.
Surely if you create a contest and the "rules or conditions" are that the winning vote gets the bounty, Then the winning vote SHOULD get the bounty. I was watching that bloody poll for weeks happy as hell to try this new product because muska and everybody else has been bigging it up so much i just had to give it a try. And now after winning im getting nothing. I even suggested getting a portion of the bounty, But have received nothing.
Libertas do you think this is fair as a mod?
'Fairness' is an entirely subjective concept - whether or not I think something is fair is irrelevant as my definition of fair, and yours, are always going to be different from everybody else's. Furthermore, as a moderator I feel it would be best to withhold my opinion in this regard lest it influence public opinion one way or the other.
As you can see from my response to muskabuzz's post, I will not be personally benefiting from this in any way, shape or form, so I believe that what I have written above can be seen as being completely objective.
However, I will state that it IS up to muskabuzz what is done with the bounty in this instance, as THEY are the ones that ran the competition. We operate within a free market; that is something that is important to keep in mind about EVERYTHING, both here and on Silk Road itself.
Libertas
I do realize it's upto muska as it is his bounty, if you look at the original poll or whatever i remember stating the exact same thing to somebody else. I just personally do not see the point in holding a poll when you are not going to stick to it anyway or honor the agreement set forth when it was created. That to me is completely outrageous and if i were to ever do it my reputation would be completely tarnished.
I fully emplore them for providing the bounty in the first place and even more so i emplore the community we have here , It's one of the best i have ever seen if not the best on the web let alone the deepnet.
The reason i was asking you was because you were a moderator and it would influence people, Seeing as it's a public market surely this would be beneficial.
Muska if you are reading this the fact that a mod wishes to withhold his statement as it would influence the decision doesn't look good. But thats not too say he agrees with me it could be the complete opposite. However i would ask you to honor our agreement even partially so i can get to try this bud i have wanted so badly to try for some time now and honor the agreement you made when you created the poll. If not then can you give me a reason other than "it was widely ignored "please. Because i dont recall anything stating how much interest their had to be in order for the bounty to be won. But i do remember 20 or 30 people involved so it seems substantial to me.
I would expect this from a lower ranked vendor, But not a top rated one such as yourself. It really is disappointing. I hope you do not think i am some idiot just trying to get free bud, Of course i really want to try your product, But if it is as good as people are saying i would take Oz's regularly. And im here stating it now so you could hold me to this. It's more the point that you have decided not to stick to it and then suddenly start a new thread. Completely ignore the original poll and issue a new winner. Regardless of how much brilliant and outstanding work the admins have done.
I eagerly await your reply.
Thanks for your time
Hff
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The reason i was asking you was because you were a moderator and it would influence people, Seeing as it's a public market surely this would be beneficial.
That is exactly the reason I am withholding my opinion on the matter, as stated in my post above - the last 5 words are important here:
"Furthermore, as a moderator I feel it would be best to withhold my opinion in this regard lest it influence public opinion one way or the other."
Muska if you are reading this the fact that a mod wishes to withhold his statement as it would influence the decision doesn't look good. But thats not too say he agrees with me it could be the complete opposite.
Please do not misrepresent my words by inferring a meaning from them; an inference seemingly reached by taking them completely out of context. I explained my reasoning for withholding my opinion, and also stated the following justifying that reasoning:
'Fairness' is an entirely subjective concept - whether or not I think something is fair is irrelevant as my definition of fair, and yours, are always going to be different from everybody else's."
Libertas
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The reason i was asking you was because you were a moderator and it would influence people, Seeing as it's a public market surely this would be beneficial.
That is exactly the reason I am withholding my opinion on the matter, as stated in my post above - the last 5 words are important here:
"Furthermore, as a moderator I feel it would be best to withhold my opinion in this regard lest it influence public opinion one way or the other."
Muska if you are reading this the fact that a mod wishes to withhold his statement as it would influence the decision doesn't look good. But thats not too say he agrees with me it could be the complete opposite.
Please do not misrepresent my words by inferring a meaning from them; an inference seemingly reached by taking them completely out of context. I explained my reasoning for withholding my opinion, and also stated the following justifying that reasoning:
'Fairness' is an entirely subjective concept - whether or not I think something is fair is irrelevant as my definition of fair, and yours, are always going to be different from everybody else's."
Libertas
Im sorry if that's the way you took it i was merely stating my opinion. i was in no way meaning to "misrepresent" your words. Yes i know you said that about influencing public opinion, which is why i was saying surely it would be beneficial. No problem anyway Libertas.Thanks for your input mate.
I would be almost certain muska will not respond to me. mainly because he has so many customers he probably thinks he doesn't need to write to me anyway. if you do decide to muska mate im still awaiting your reply from my previous post.
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Im sorry if that's the way you took it i was merely stating my opinion. i was in no way meaning to "misrepresent" your words. Yes i know you said that about influencing public opinion, which is why i was saying surely it would be beneficial. No problem anyway Libertas.Thanks for your input mate.
I would be almost certain muska will not respond to me. mainly because he has so many customers he probably thinks he doesn't need to write to me anyway. if you do decide to muska mate im still awaiting your reply from my previous post.
An opinion that you are, of course, more than entitled to! I simply felt the need to clarify my position on the subject.
Libertas
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Im sorry if that's the way you took it i was merely stating my opinion. i was in no way meaning to "misrepresent" your words. Yes i know you said that about influencing public opinion, which is why i was saying surely it would be beneficial. No problem anyway Libertas.Thanks for your input mate.
I would be almost certain muska will not respond to me. mainly because he has so many customers he probably thinks he doesn't need to write to me anyway. if you do decide to muska mate im still awaiting your reply from my previous post.
An opinion that you are, of course, more than entitled to! I simply felt the need to clarify my position on the subject.
Libertas
I understand completely. All the best to you mate.
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I for one have no opinion on anything and I'm going to go smoke my own weed in honor of all the Mods who have done anything about spam or anything else on SR.
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Heatfire: sorry to disappoint but it's hard to imagine a clearer- or happier- scenario than how this bounty has ended.
The voting you refer to was so tiny that a couple of sock puppet accounts could so easily corrupt the results they were rendered meaningless.
We invite you to recognize the admins as the exceedingly obvious winner here; they have solved the spam problem which is the sole intention of this bounty. Please join us in a most deserved celebration of their deed.
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Very generous of you indeed, muskabuzz! :)
Libertas
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That's a nice gesture, but it would be impossible to ship them weed. It could expose their location which I'm sure LE would be interest in. Admins on Silk Road would be a target nearly as much as vendors I would say. They are the ones who allow the open forum discussion.
Scout, Libertas & SSBD all do a great job on here. Nearly every thread I read has at least one post by at least of of the mods. And free speech is promoted, with the exception of spam!
Thanks mods!
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Thanks for the support, you guys! :)
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The delivery concept is a real non-starter so, in bitcoin we trust. Let's call it 3.7 of them.
Libertas: how shall we do this?
Thanks very much for everyone's time. We are honored to be here with you.
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No, forum moderators no longer work for free.
This is big!! SR mods deserve steady compensation for their work here, but I just assumed they got jack. You absolutely deserve it for your efforts. Hopefully it's $2000 a week minimum, AB.
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The delivery concept is a real non-starter so, in bitcoin we trust. Let's call it 3.7 of them.
Libertas: how shall we do this?
Thanks very much for everyone's time. We are honored to be here with you.
VERY good of you, muskabuzz!
I'm not 100% sure how the others would like to handle it, I'll check with them though and get back to you here. Whatever I receive out of your most generous donation I'll split evenly amongst the members in your original thread for actually joining in on the discussion and attempting to find a solution to the spam problem. I'll PM them and let them know they can post an address on thread or have it sent directly to their SR username - sending it directly to them over on SR would be the easiest thing to do. I'll organise all of that in any event, so no need to worry there.
I'll start a dialogue with the rest of the team and get back to you as soon as we reach a consensus on the matter. I imagine it would be easiest to just send it to one of us on SR and we'll split it up evenly from there, but I'll let you know. :)
Thanks so much!
No, forum moderators no longer work for free.
This is big!! SR mods deserve steady compensation for their work here, but I just assumed they got jack. You absolutely deserve it for your efforts. Hopefully it's $2000 a week minimum, AB.
That would indeed be a very nice amount to receive every week, Aussie bob! :P We are paid a fair amount for doing something we enjoy, and would probably be doing regardless of whether we were moderators or not. scout put in up to 18 hours a day when it was voluntary work - and continues to do so - which shows real dedication to this community. Either way, I think we're all very happy with the situation as it currently stands. :)
Libertas
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It's quite amazing actually just how much time you end up spending on here, even before we were getting some remuneration for out efforts my time give voluntarily here often equaled if not exceeded that of my other full time job.
Really appreciate the kudos in this thread, thanks guys!
:)
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Heatfire: sorry to disappoint but it's hard to imagine a clearer- or happier- scenario than how this bounty has ended.
The voting you refer to was so tiny that a couple of sock puppet accounts could so easily corrupt the results they were rendered meaningless.
We invite you to recognize the admins as the exceedingly obvious winner here; they have solved the spam problem which is the sole intention of this bounty. Please join us in a most deserved celebration of their deed.
Hi muska thanks for replying.
yes no doubt about it the mods work tirelessly round the clock to keep these forums great for us, You cant put a price on what they do.
I suppose your right in that sense, However the accounts were with decent feedback i think, Never mind it is fine really, I just really wanted to try some of the fleetwood OG seeing as all the feedback about it was amazing.
I shall join you in celebrating the mods success and loyalty to SR.
Thank you mods for everything you have done ,And thank you Muska for finally replying mate.
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Libertas: sorry to bother; we are awaiting your instructions to send the bitcoins.
Thanks very much for the time.
Muska
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Thanks for the reminder Muska, I'll give Libertas a gentle poke in the ribs ;)
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I was not a part of the original thread i just wanted to say thanks to Muska for one awesome idea and a very generous bounty i might add...and a very special THANK YOU to all Mod's for the truly great job that you guy's do keeping our great community running smoothly! THANKS!!
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Libertas: sorry to bother; we are awaiting your instructions to send the bitcoins.
Thanks very much for the time.
Muska
Hi Muskabuzz,
Very sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you; I've been incredibly busy of late. If you wish you can send the bounty to my username on the main site (Libertas) and I'll ensure it's divvied up appropriately.
I'll split my portion amongst the members in your original thread and ask them to edit their posts on your thread to include a BTC address when I get a little bit of free time to do so.
Thanks again for your incredibly generous contribution! :)
Libertas
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Libertas: 3.7 btc sent.
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Libertas: 3.7 btc sent.
Thank you kindly, muskabuzz. I'm divvying it up between the mods and admins as we speak and I've made a post in your thread (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=110439.msg1257222#msg1257222) asking everyone that contributed to it to PM me their SR username and I'll send their portion of my cut to them over on the main site.
Thanks again for starting the thread to get ideas, and for putting up the reward! :)
Libertas
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Much appreciated muskabuzz! :)
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Pity you guys can't get a smoke from him instead, both their strains are really nice. Excellent vendor and a little bit eccentric which is always fun. :D
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Pity you guys can't get a smoke from him instead, both their strains are really nice. Excellent vendor and a little bit eccentric which is always fun. :D
Just couldn't see it making it past Australian customs brusselsprout :( especially atm
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Same - the Muskabuzz have a particularly strong record shipping to the Lucky Country, right through today. As such Australia is on our guaranteed nations list.
Very much appreciate the kind words from all.
Muskabuzz
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Same - the Muskabuzz have a particularly strong record shipping to the Lucky Country, right through today. As such Australia is on our guaranteed nations list.
Very much appreciate the kind words from all.
Muskabuzz
Wow really.... I wish more vendors could make that claim!
Thanks again Muskabuzz, I'll be sure to steer some people towards your store if you are having success down under :)
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THE PRICE OF YOUR BUD MUSKA...IT'S WAY 2 FUCKING HIGH...STOP RIPPING PEOPLE OFF FUCKER
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THE PRICE OF YOUR BUD MUSKA...IT'S WAY 2 FUCKING HIGH...STOP RIPPING PEOPLE OFF FUCKER
IMPERSONATOR! The price is fine!