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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: dragonfly89 on April 13, 2013, 06:06 pm

Title: Costs WTF ?
Post by: dragonfly89 on April 13, 2013, 06:06 pm
Hi all,

I know it's a noob question and that it'll probably piss some people off (sorry).

But considering I buy my g of coke for approximately 45€ here ("irl") and a pill of xtc exactly 5€ (whatever type I buy), why the heck is it so expensive here?

Do you know any "cheaper" (for same quality) place than SK?
Title: Re: Costs WTF ?
Post by: Smarties on April 13, 2013, 06:16 pm
That's because pill prices are cheap in the UK & ROI. Where I live they cost less than £1 each. That's six or seven times cheaper than on SR. However pill prices in other countries may be higher than on SR which creates business for the vendors.

People in the UK with no access to street price XTC will obviously order too. In some cases there's also drugs of better quality available here on SR than locally. Regardless of what street contacts you may have in some cases.
Title: Re: Costs WTF ?
Post by: Blackdoor on April 13, 2013, 06:20 pm
Your reflection reassures me, I think the same thing and ask myself the same question, damn it's expensive, and i live in France! It's the same 40, 50 euros/Gr
Title: Re: Costs WTF ?
Post by: partyschedule on April 13, 2013, 06:38 pm
I get jipped in my own experience.. Either people run off with my money, or want half of what I got. Too many shady people where I'm from. Hard to find legit IRL dealers, IMO.  :-[
Title: Re: Costs WTF ?
Post by: ArtieFartie on April 13, 2013, 06:44 pm
The prices are high because you wouldn't be here if you could get what you want on the street and of the same quality.
Title: Re: Costs WTF ?
Post by: dragonfly89 on April 13, 2013, 06:53 pm
I have to admit that it is pretty incredible to be able to know so much about the product you're buying on SK (name, quality, feedback from others, even lab tests) - info you usually don't have IRL.
And from where I'm from (Belgium), SK prices for MDMA are also rather cheap (20-30€ vs. 40€ in clubs).

But still, for CC and pills, it's ridiculously expensive... Even if you have guarantee for quality. Though I understand the reasons why now. But I guess SK is simply not interesting in my POV then... Too bad :(

Also I wonder if there's a web-based forum for drug deals in your regions ! If such thing exist (that must exist...) please let us know =)

Oh and what about the SK vendors that offer a g of CC for let's say 0,52BTC (e.g. from user http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/d45414deec ), is that "possible" or is it scam for sure?
Title: Re: Costs WTF ?
Post by: Pressed Rat on April 13, 2013, 07:22 pm
Some of these prices here makes me want to consider being a vender here
Title: Re: Costs WTF ?
Post by: Intraterrestrial on April 13, 2013, 07:58 pm
You should be careful with the drugs you may buy off SR dosage wise, because I have no doubt that they will be MUCH stronger than you are used to.

The prices you quote will only buy you very bogstandard quality in the UK
Title: Re: Costs WTF ?
Post by: djnobody321 on April 13, 2013, 08:09 pm
across the pond all the presses are cheaper if I have time to wait i dont mind ordering from the uk but if i dont have time to wait ill pay the outrageous prices here localy in the states
Title: Re: Costs WTF ?
Post by: Andromeda on April 13, 2013, 08:36 pm
Again, I forget what this thread is about, but here's my post contribution.
Title: Re: Costs WTF ?
Post by: HodgieDanciz on April 13, 2013, 08:48 pm
I got a shitty message from a guy in Australia bitching about the price I'm charging for GBL.....

He told me he could buy it for 1/3rd the price locally.  So I told him, GREAT, go do that.  Got flamed a bit afterwards.....

Then I sent him a link to a recent news article outlining the price on the streets in various cities; and told him he's welcome to try and import the shit from china if he would like; followed by ANOTHER article of the 80% capture rate of Australian Customs with drug importation....

There's still risk for SR vendors selling their wares. And with risk comes price.
Title: Re: Costs WTF ?
Post by: casper12 on May 30, 2013, 11:57 am
$300USD in Sydney, Australia
Title: Re: Costs WTF ?
Post by: barbequehax on May 30, 2013, 12:08 pm
For the coke you get from some vendors you could pay up to 150€ on the street in Germany. La Fuentes coke for example is better than any I ever had on the street.
Title: Re: Costs WTF ?
Post by: vI on May 30, 2013, 12:15 pm
here's $80 a baggie local, some stuff i got on SR was around $120 and not much better or one time much worse than the street, hit and miss in my experience.

i'm ok with $120 but not for garbage quality
Title: Re: Costs WTF ?
Post by: SecretMeerkat7 on May 30, 2013, 12:22 pm
Yeah...some vendors here are charging $20 a pill for Ecstasy, which is a little hard to swallow. 
Title: Re: Costs WTF ?
Post by: goldenone on May 30, 2013, 05:48 pm
Shit is expensive but at least you get quality.
Title: Re: Costs WTF ?
Post by: DrCol on May 30, 2013, 06:02 pm
I am quite expensive to be frank...but my quality is exceptional...my weight on the money and I offer samples occasionally :)

I have several options and they are all top drawer (if I do say so myself)

I am also good to deal with, professional and courteous. I consider your safety and pack accordingly.

I am here to share great product direct and uncut.

So I guess it's more about "value" than cost?

Anyway, with best wishes

Doc
Title: Re: Costs WTF ?
Post by: sk0rt on May 30, 2013, 06:12 pm
I'll not make it a secret, I've set the prices about 100% more than I do on private forums with members that I know.

Two reasons for that, the first is that I have competition on the other forums and because it's private I have mutual trust (and have met people from the forum) but yes reason 1. there is competition with others offering the same product at the same price and the same quality.
2. Because you will pay it! I only sell pharmacy grade quality, the best that I've found (as I use it myself) and you're getting what I had to go through years of scammers and shit to find a reliable source, then I had to go through financial hardship for years and now, finally, I can afford to buy in bulk and I'll sell on to you - at the quality you expect, with the privacy you require.

That's it really. But I like the formula.

I've had experience on public forums and it's a disaster, it's the most scammer filled hell-hole in existence. Plus you're competing with people offering (or claiming to offer) the same product at a cheaper price. There's certainly interest, yes, I've found a few people on there that will pay a higher rate but in general I don't touch the place because it's horrendous.

I've had experience on private forums. They're places where everybody knows everybody else, everybody is dealing pure / best quality, you know what you're getting, it costs a bit more but it's brilliant. If you ever need sorted out and you're in financial hardship then the guy that's been dealing to you for 6-7 years online is going to know you're good for the money and front you the drugs until you're in good shape.

Here is different again, I love SR because it has everything I want in terms of quality and privacy, I can GPG my address up, send it to somebody random and expect a delivery through the post soon (well one of the worse things is the delivery times I've found on SR - I'll be posting everything same day). It has basically everything, while the private forums don't - and I know that when I buy something that I'm going to get what I ordered and not something crap. Quality matters! Privacy matters! And SR simply provides the mechanism for feedback (so you can trust the buyers / sellers) and privacy (by being on Tor) and the people deliver the quality because they'll get bad feedback if they sell you a baggie of kitchen powder or ecstasy that proves to have no MD* on it on a test.

The prices are fine, you're willing to pay them (I'm willing to as well) and if you weren't willing to pay them then we would lower the prices.

Also it's like $500 to just become a vendor, christ almighty!
Title: Re: Costs WTF ?
Post by: Lightbulb-breaking on May 30, 2013, 06:29 pm
One needs to consider the silkroad fee, vendor fee, the cost of shipping, the cost of packaging, as well as the man hours sent responding to messages, printing labels, sending orders, and paying back refunds from scammers/people who legitimately didn't receive their product, as these are all going to be part of the price of drugs on this site.

Even after all this, I, for one, don't mind paying a little extra for the luxury of choice (one can pick from different suppliers and different countries, rather than just the two locals numbers you have for that item who probably have the same supplier) and the ease of having products delivered to the door like a spoon off Amazon.

I ask myself: "Would I pay a little extra for a phone book of drug dealers from around the world?" Most certainly.
Title: Re: Costs WTF ?
Post by: Libertas on May 30, 2013, 07:00 pm
The prices are fine, you're willing to pay them (I'm willing to as well) and if you weren't willing to pay them then we would lower the prices.

Also it's like $500 to just become a vendor, christ almighty!

Indeed - in a free market, the buyers set the prices by deciding whether or not they're willing to pay for the goods in question at the prices advertised.

Regarding the $500, the vendor bond is fully refundable once the terms of the bond are met so it is essentially free to become a vendor on Silk Road.

Libertas
Title: Re: Costs WTF ?
Post by: sk0rt on May 30, 2013, 07:11 pm
Indeed - in a free market, the buyers set the prices by deciding whether or not they're willing to pay for the goods in question at the prices advertised.

Regarding the $500, the vendor bond is fully refundable once the terms of the bond are met so it is essentially free to become a vendor on Silk Road.

Yeah true enough. Still a hassle though I do see the benefits to having a barrier to entry.

Down with capitalism! Free drugs for all! Well I would love to see that but our current lives are controlled by rich folk that don't want to change it so... good luck to us.
Title: Re: Costs WTF ?
Post by: DrCol on May 30, 2013, 07:23 pm
Very educated comments...and Veritas is absolutely correct, but the bond at least is a barrier to the unthinking/unfinanced "vendors" who plague other less reputable, quality forums.

I for one prefer quality and still champion "value" over "cost"...as a user myself I agree with others, if you want the best, pay for it and enjoy the best results...I would rather this than take hideous, poor grade substances.

Best to all

Doc
Title: Re: Costs WTF ?
Post by: bjsmiliga1 on May 30, 2013, 07:24 pm
50 eu/Gr4
Title: Re: Costs WTF ?
Post by: Young Morpheus on May 30, 2013, 07:51 pm
Prices are different everywhere, as well as accessibility. I do like how you can get commentary on quality.
Title: Re: Costs WTF ?
Post by: ChemdogSunrise on May 30, 2013, 08:36 pm
Two words: quality and risk.

People will pay large amounts for the former and just as large amounts for a lack of the latter in my experience.
Title: Re: Costs WTF ?
Post by: DrCol on May 31, 2013, 07:06 am
Spot on ChemDog....spot on.
:)
Doc
Title: Re: Costs WTF ?
Post by: Kingkilroy on May 31, 2013, 07:16 am
100/150$/g in Cali is pretty fair but we are talking social CC 60-75% purity if your lucky. Much safer and high quality if sourced from SR


For the coke you get from some vendors you could pay up to 150€ on the street in Germany. La Fuentes coke for example is better than any I ever had on the street.


Slightly off topic as too price, But La Fuente is a shady dealer who wont hesitate to scam you, and in the last 2 weeks has dropped from 95+ rating to 80 something because of it. Just putting my personal input, have had countless flawless transactions since but that's half a coin i will never see again.  >:(
Title: Re: Costs WTF ?
Post by: YipYaps on May 31, 2013, 08:43 am
Convenience, safety, not having to deal with shady drug dealers.
Silk Road is revolutionizing drug buying. I'm happy to pay a markup for that.
Title: Re: Costs WTF ?
Post by: pietertje on May 31, 2013, 09:06 am
only the sun comes up for free
Title: Re: Costs WTF ?
Post by: synthetikal on May 31, 2013, 09:32 am
Also it's like $500 to just become a vendor, christ almighty!

500$ for the opportunity to reach a global market? At 10x that a vendor's account on SR would be a deal.

As to the original question: costs are high because people are willing to pay them. The black market is not exempt from basic economic principles.
Title: Re: Costs WTF ?
Post by: pietertje on May 31, 2013, 09:55 am
try to reach that 50 mark...
Title: Re: Costs WTF ?
Post by: Block Buster on May 31, 2013, 10:38 am
You're also paying for the protection of Escrow and the slight reassurance of quality (due to feedback)


-BB