Threats, veiled or otherwise, are not acceptable in this community whether they are directed at regular members or moderators. You know that very well, and I am quite frankly shocked to see you doing that - I had thought you were above such things. Regarding your karma issue, I posted "Hear, hear!" in support of samesamebutdifferent's suggestion to "draw a line in the sand" and received somewhere in the region of -15 negative karma points; I mention this only so that you might consider the possibility that you are completely wrong about where your karma points are coming from. We're here to try to help and guide this community; we're not here to "neg" people with imaginary internet points, nor attack them. This is getting comically out of hand - arguing over something as innocuous as forum karma is ridiculous, and I direct that to ALL parties involved in this platitudinous discussion. Libertas