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I've made a couple of orders several days ago and after the site crashed I couldn't get access to my first account, using my passphrase.

After that I created another account and got in touch with the sellers. One of them said that someone wrote him a message from my first account about canceling the order. So he did.

I wrote to the site support team and today they've sent me another passphrase.
I checked the sent messages and found out that another seller received the same message about canceling the order.

After all I've lost something about 1.5BTC, that were withdrawn from my account.
I know about fishing sites and always used the correct address.

I suppose that my password was stolen during these ddos-attack.
Also they stole my pin-number, so they could withdraw all funds from my account.

Hi wizzy,

The Silk Road database was not compromised during the DDOS attack (a DDOS is simply a group of computers bombarding a website with traffic - i.e. attempting to access the site at one time) so there is no way the attacker gained access to your password or PIN.

Even in a hypothetical situation where the database does manage to be compromised, user information is all hashed ("encrypted", in a way) so the person trying to access your account would have to brute-force your password. If you are using a relatively strong password this would take between a few thousand and millions of years.

The chances of them brute-forcing your password AND your PIN are nigh on impossible.

The ONLY possible ways for someone to have gained access to your password and PIN are by you entering them on a phishing site or accessing Silk Road via onion.to on the clearweb and the onion.to operators recorded your keystrokes. The second possibility is unlikely, though completely possible.
Remember that if you enter your details on a phishing site they will usually automatically forward you to the real Silk Road site and log in with your password so you won't realise. They will then empty your account of your Bitcoin either automatically or when the phisher realises that somebody has fallen victim to their site.

Silk Road will NEVER ask you for your PIN when you are logging it, it is used strictly for making purchases and withdrawals. Whenever you are asked to enter your PIN, check that you are on the correct site:

silkroadvb5piz3r.onion

Never trust any links you find online, neither on the Hidden Wiki nor anywhere on the clearnet. Memorise the real address or bookmark it in your Tor browser and ALWAYS make sure you're visiting the correct site.

Thread locked as resolved.

Libertas

they really need to look at revising the rules for F/E, maybee abolish it for trusted buyers or something I dont know but the scams are getting bad.

People need to take personal responsibility for Finalising Early. Nobody forces buyers to do it, yet people continue to claim that Silk Road needs to do something about it. I am sorry to hear that you got scammed in the past by vendors but if you make a conscious decision not to FE again - as you have done in this case - your money will be safe. You are a perfect example of somebody taking responsibility and deciding "No, I won't go outside the protection of escrow because there's a chance I'll get scammed if I do." and you're completely right.

Why on earth would people willfully remove the protection of escrow simply because they are promised 20% extra?! More importantly, how can people think that for every 100g that a vendor sends out, they would also send out 20g free?! The 20g is likely the majority of their profit margin!

The mind boggles.

Libertas

I've been trying to bookmark some products and keep getting the below error message

"You do not have rights to access this resource
use the contact us link below if you feel you have received this message in error. "

I checked and I haven't been logged out and the product is still available when I refresh. Not a big problem for me but just thought I'd let a mod know, didn't want to email support as they seem like they are pretty busy right now.

Hi ladyjane,

Thanks for letting us know. If there are more reports of this occurring I'll push it up the chain. I'll keep an eye on this thread in any event.

Libertas

Hi All,

I see quite a mix about the whole principal about finalizing early and escrow with new account holders. 

Just wanted to see what people think about this.

For instance a buyer attempts to make a buy from a seller for $300 worth of product but this is the buyer's first purchase.  As a seller, this is not exactly the most comforting situation.  Now as a seller, if you're using tracking and it comes down to resolution, does the seller have the right to submit a copy of  receipt showing the buyer's information and proof that it was delivered?

Personally I think the whole purpose of using tracking resolves this issue, but as a seller you're not suppose to keep this information once you put the sell "Into Transit".   Seems like a little contradiction but if a seller can keep the tracking information, then escrow seems like an extremely efficient system and it prevents buyer who try to scam and it also helps prevent sellers trying to scam buyers.  No proof of tracking and the seller should cough up a refund if it's their fault.

Appreciate any feedback!

M

Hi mazdacar47,

Firstly you are never *required* to FE. Some vendors may have a policy that you will have to FE if you choose to order from them, and once they reach 30+ sales and have been vending for 1 month or more they are entitled to do this, but you are not required to FE under any circumstances.

If you place an order with a vendor that asks for FE (when entitled to do so) as part of their store policy then they will likely cancel your order. Always read a vendor's page in full before attempting to do business with them. I would recommend always going with a vendor that does not require FE as once you go outside of escrow you have no comeback in the event that the product does not arrive.

As far as tracking goes, a vendor is not permitted to keep addresses after the order has been sent (and indeed an address is automatically deleted once a vendor marks an order 'in transit'), however they are allowed to retain DCN and tracking numbers to assist with any potential resolution that may be entered into. If there is a dispute then the seller is entitled to provide those numbers to the administrator dealing with the resolution.

Libertas

SamGiancana is without a doubt a scammer, his ratings are FAILING hardcore now that everyone is starting to not receive their goods.

I have 1300$ in Escrow with him, I will get my money back wont I?

As long as you enter resolution and request a 100% refund, and it is approved by the administrator dealing with the resolution, then yes. As a result of the recent events and feedback where this vendor is concerned I would suggest entering resolution as soon as the option becomes available to you.

Libertas

I think this would be an awesome idea!

Vendors can run promo's and make deals on the fly...

Buyers get to instantly brainstorm & communicate with others...

I'll back the financing if someone can tell me how I can set up a Tor based SR chat room site,

or if SR could make a chat room & add it to the forums that would also be nice!

I just feel like we are always on a 10 second delay due to the slow messaging speed here , I want to know the latest information up to the minute!

Thoughts?

Hi White 0ut,

There is already a Silk Road chat channel on IRC if you are interested in joining that? Not quite what you are talking about in your post, but it's what we have available at the minute!

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=175.msg834#msg834

Libertas

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With the difficulty pretty much set to double / triple for Bitcoin mining over the next few months (if Butterfly Labs actually ship any of their large rigs, and with people building their own Avalon rigs) Litecoin would be a safer bet

Try a ***20-30x*** increase in difficulty when all the rigs finally ship. You've been warned.

Indeed, if they ship all of the pre-ordered rigs but I don't see that happening for a long time, if at all. As far as I know they haven't even shipped out one of their large rigs yet so the difficulty won't increase by that much too soon.

People buying Avalon chips and building their own rigs will likely have more of an impact on the difficulty than Butterfly Labs in the short-medium term.

Libertas

Quote from: Libertas on May 06, 2013, 03:21 am

Quote from: CHROOT on May 05, 2013, 04:23 pm

The ASIC miner shitshow is in full bloom right now but when they do start to ship, is it worth investing in one?

Is there a mining pool associated with silk road? Even the SR reddit has one apparently : (

I would recommend using the money you plan to spend on an ASIC to invest in a Litecoin mining rig. With the difficulty pretty much set to double / triple for Bitcoin mining over the next few months (if Butterfly Labs actually ship any of their large rigs, and with people building their own Avalon rigs) Litecoin would be a safer bet - but not by much, given the fact that GPU miners will likely switch to mining Litecoin when Bitcoin's difficulty gets too high to mine profitably due to ASIC's kicking in.


Libertas

A Global Mod for SR  is semi-endorsing Litecoins?

I do believe I will invest now!

Any chance SR will ever think of accepting LTC's?

I'm afraid I make that recommendation in a personal capacity, not as a Silk Road moderator!

I have absolutely no idea what plans DPR may have for Silk Road's future but I somehow doubt that Litecoin integration will be part of it. Bitcoin serves incredibly well as a method of payment and its divisibility means that there is no requirement for a currency of lower value.

With Litecoin's growth though I suspect more exchanges will offer BTC -> LTC and vice-versa so obtaining Bitcoin with Litecoin wouldn't be a problem for those who hold LTC but wish to make purchases on Silk Road.

Libertas