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1981
So does this mean our coins are stuck in limbo?  If the coin tumbler is rejecting transactions then they're sitting in throwaway wallets?

Silk Road retains control over all the wallet addresses in the tumbler; if it is indeed an issue with the tumbler then it will be fixed and all Bitcoin will be credited to the correct addresses as there is a record on the blockchain of who originally sent what where.

Libertas

1982
This is true there isn't many people that I haven't whipped my cock out to is there... Hmmm. Happy families indeed. :D 8)

... I think our definitions of a happy family are a little different. :-\ :P

+1 to this Lim.

I think that the moderators are literally the fucking glue keeping this place together. And thats during NORMAL times. Last few weeks have been a rollercoaster ride. And these guys have held it down. I can't stress this enough. They put in so many hours, putting out fires, battling scammers, keeping things organized, helping every single forum member with every single isssue.. it's really unreal. I think we can't thank them enough.
Scout I know pretty well and consider him a friend, and he never fails to deliver. Libertas, although new to the "mod" scene, is obviously an old hat and also seems to have jumped right in hitting the ground running. You must not like sleep Libertas.. I can't imagine life got any EASIER since becoming a mod :)
And then we have SSBD, also works his ass off.

I'm not a vendor, but if I was a vendor.. I'd certainly set aside a monthly amount of complimentary drugs for these guys. After all, this is Silk Road.  ;)

Appreciate the kind words, colorblack. As far as sleep goes, I love it. I love it so much that it wants nothing to do with me.. And I'm heartbroken because of it! :P

But no, I'm honestly honoured to have been given the opportunity to contribute in this way; this community is more than just a place people can come to talk about drugs etc., it is a place where freedom reigns supreme. The freedom that we have to publicly speak about subjects that we would otherwise be restricted from doing is incredibly important, and not just for Silk Road but for the future of freedom itself. We cannot allow ourselves to be trod on and censored by those who are of the opinion that we are not fit to think for ourselves.

I truly believe that what we have here is an essential key to the birth of the future free world. We take power from governments by operating on the black market, and we gain power from each other that helps us break the bonds that are put in place to restrict our freedom.

This community has empowered so many people, whether they realise it or not. Deep down, we all desire freedom. It is hardwired into our genetic structure. When we get the chance to experience that freedom - by using Silk Road to purchase what governments do not allow, and conversing freely here on the forums for instance - it sets off something inside us that cannot be restrained by any police force, nor any legislation.

These forums mean so much to me because what they represent is an essential part of my personal vision of the future that I desire for everybody - a future that is free, fearless and unrestrained.

Libertas

1983
Security / Re: BTC stolen from SR account
« on: May 07, 2013, 03:40 am »
Thanks. I appreciate the response. I am calm and hopeful. I can understand the tremendous amount of work maintaining this site is.

Locking this as all discussion on this issue is being redirected to the main thread here:

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=156494.0

Hang in there FenderGuitarMan - you'll get your coins! :)

Libertas

1984
Haha that's because I never had a double personality! :P

Have I argued with you before? Are we going to get along?

Touché!

A bit of an absurd question that though, I have to say; I wasn't aware there was anyone left on the forum that you HADN'T argued with. 8) Haha. And I'm a fairly likeable chap, we should get along just fine. It's all happy families eh? :P

Libertas

1985
Can anyone tell us that they are workinh on this , its never taking this long for coins to go into my Account .. Anyone ?

Hi Sled1234,

Yes, it is being worked on. Please refer to the main deposit issue thread here:

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=156494.0

Locking this thread.

Libertas

1986
Who are you Libertas and where have you come from?

I don't recall asking you the same questions when you became a mod, Lim. :P ;)
I'm someone that's been here since late 2011, and there's a thread in the Roundtable which will tell you a little more.

Libertas

1987
I echo scout's sentiment entirely - we certainly do appreciate the support! :) Thanks folks!

Libertas

1988
Customer support / Re: Sent coins to old address!
« on: May 07, 2013, 03:13 am »
I clicked get new address but accidentally sent the coins to the old address. I've read a few forum posts about this but just want to be a hundred percent sure. I did this a while back and the coins still showed up but this time its been almost 8 hours and they have yet to show up where my typical transfer time has been less than 2 hours.

-Are all old addresses linked to the new one?
-Do coins going to an old address take longer to show up?

If this has been answered elsewhere feel free to post the answer/link and lock the topic. I couldn't find a definitive answer to my question anywhere so I figured posting and getting an answer would be beneficial to me and others.

EDIT:

I forgot to add that I checked the transfer on block explorer and it went through. The coins are in the hands of the SR at this point.

Hi PervinBlitzkrieg,

All old addresses are technically part of your account, and Bitcoin going to old addresses should not typically take longer than they would going to a new address. If there ever is a hiccup as a result of sending to an old address though, you can contact SR Support once it's been 24 hours from the time you initiated the transfer by clicking on the 'support' link in the bottom right hand corner of any page on the main site - they will then push it through manually for you.

Regarding the current transfer time delay, you can read more about it in the main topic here:

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=156494.0

In short, don't worry about it; once the transfer issue is sorted out the Bitcoin will be in your account. :)

Locking as resolved.

Libertas

1989
I checked my blockchain and my coins are headed to a different address now after 36 confirmations. Is this normal?

Yes, this is normal; what you're seeing is the Silk Road tumbler in action. You can read more about this on the SR Wiki here:

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php?title=Buyer%27s_Guide#Tumbler

Libertas

1990
I gotta tell you.  This is all making me very nervous.  There seems to be an awful lot of bad things happening since the 'attack'.

The site is being worked on to preemptively protect against further issues; the "bad things" will be fixed up as soon as possible, as they always are.

Libertas

1991
Silk Road discussion / MOVED: best form of investing money
« on: May 07, 2013, 01:17 am »
This topic has been moved to Off topic (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?board=1.0).

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=156538.0

1992
This topic has been moved to Off topic (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?board=1.0).

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=156577.0

1993
Silk Road discussion / MOVED: Partying in Bali
« on: May 07, 2013, 01:15 am »
This topic has been moved to Off topic (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?board=1.0).

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=156650.0

1994


DPR has been notified of this.

Regarding the topic at hand, he/she has already been made aware of the deposit delay issues.

Libertas

Thank you. Honestly, had this been the first post, I'd not have had a thing to say.

I've said this several times in several threads!

Server loads? The block chain is the block chain. The records are there in 1s and 0s. It's either being parsed or it's not. Clearly the network is working, or we wouldn't be able to load the site. If the network is working, the server should have a current copy of the block chain. If the pages are loading, the server should have enough computing capacity to parse the block chain.

Clearly I don't know exactly how SR gets desynched from the block chain. But until somebody provides a technical explanation of how these deposit delays can be caused by things out of the control of SR, and resolved on their own, I'm calling bullshit. I'm pretty sure every time (at least, that I'm personally aware of) that there has be a delay, the delay is "until DPR logs in and resyncs the block chain" or whatever he does.

It ABSOLUTELY is affected by site downtime and server loads because it's not just a transfer from one wallet to another - it involves a third step because SR has a built-in coin tumbler to increase the anonymity of the btc going in and out of the site.  SR also uses cold and hot storage, so when DPR has to move some coins from cold storage, it takes time.  I didn't say the delays were out of SR's control - I NEVER said that.  What I said is that the delays on SR are incredibly common, that no coins are lost, and that DPR is aware of the delays.  Of course it is an SR issue, I have never stated otherwise.

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Your flippant answer that "we're not losing money, the amount of bitcoins stays the same" is ridiculous. You realize, of course, that nearly every price on the SR is pegged to a floating average for the USD? Sure, you don't control that exchange rate, but failures such as these CAN cause a significant loss of value, often times preventing a customer from purchasing what they intended to purchase in the first place. Your response to that is, "We don't see you complaining when the price goes up!" Well, I can't speak for everybody else, but my standard operating procedure it to completely minimize the time between USD is converted into BTC, and when those BTC are put into escrow at the SR. I'm not interested in gambling with the exchange rate, but this failure in service is forcing me to.

My flippant answer?  Are you serious?  I've posted a LOT on the matter at hand - none of which has been dismissive.  I have stated over and over again things that should reassure people about the status of their deposits until the delays are fixed.  I didn't give a flippant answer to this situation - I have gone out of my way to respond in every thread I've seen about the issue.

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Worse, the item I'm trying to buy may be sold out by the time I have the funds. It's really not appropriate to turn a blind eye to these concerns and blow them off like we're being impatient assholes. Worse yet, to argue with us and tell us that we should accept this with a shrug? This is a serious, high revenue business. The hobbyists posing as professionals with a "moderator" title (how many moderators have come and gone by now, btw?) should step back and wait until they have actual information instead of something copied and pasted from the list of approved responses.

I'm sorry if the delay causes you to miss ordering an item.  For months now we've been advising people to initiate their deposits early in case these delays happen.  We tell people to deposit early, and to deposit extra.  That way, these problems can sometimes be at least somewhat avoided. 

Your statement accusing me of "turning a blind eye to these concerns" is ridiculous and blatantly untrue.  I've spent all afternoon trying to reassure people about what is going on.  Beyond posting though, there's nothing more I can do.  We've done all that we can to pass the information along to the admin and DPR - the only thing we CAN do is let people know that there are currently delays, that their coins are not lost, and that DPR is aware of the current delays.

I haven't blown anyone off - there's simply nothing more I can do from my end other than to inform DPR of what's going on and then try to calm the fears of those who don't know why their deposits haven't shown up and are scared that their coins are lost.

None of what I've said is copied and pasted - so your continued condescension is unnecessary.  I DO have actual info - which is that DPR is aware of the delays, and that this has happened MULTIPLE times in the recent past.  I am not a "hobbyist" - I have been a moderator here for months, and have been around for over a year.  Maybe that's not qualification enough in your opinion, but it is exactly the reason I am able to say "this has happened before, delays are not abnormal, and everyone will receive their coins."  Because I've seen it happen over and over again.

Well said!

1995
Okay, sorry if this is a little confusing but im trying not to freak out right now.

I deposited 61 bitcoins to my SR account right after having clicked "get new address" for security purposes.

Well, 8 hours later and no coins show up so I copied and pasted my new SR address into the blockchain.

The deposit shows up with 52 confirmations.

Now for the kicker....an hour later there is also a WITHDRAWAL from the same address for 61 bitcoins to a completely random bitcoin wallet.

However, when I click on account ---> account history THERE IS NO RECORD OF EITHER RECEIVING OR WITHDRAWING THE BITCOINS. This means my account has NOT been hacked. This must be a bug, perhaps some problem with SR due to the random downtime.

Sorry for the caps but I don't know what to do. I messaged support. I cannot afford to lose 7 k...... :-\

Hi utensildude,

There is currently a delay with deposits being made to Silk Road.

The deposit process can take up to 24 hours but normally takes a lot less.
If you're checking the deposit on a site such as blockchain.info and you see the Bitcoin being moved to different addresses you're seeing Silk Road's tumbler in action. There is nothing to worry about, and you will receive your coins.

If you do not receive your Bitcoin within 24 hours of having sent them, you can contact SR Support on the main site using the link in the bottom right hand corner of any page.

Libertas

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