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I put up 800usd to become a vendor. after meeting a few prerequisites I can request a bond refund I was granted that thinking I would get initial 800 or less back . it was thousands instead. I'd want to do it again. ya know?

Aaaah, that makes things a little clearer. Reading the earlier posts I was also like ""!

You will get back the amount of Bitcoin that you pay into the bond, not a particular USD amount. The value of Bitcoin may rise or fall over the duration of the bond being held by Silk Road, but you will receive back exactly  the amount that you paid in Bitcoin.

Regarding an existing vendor account, once you satisfy the pre-requisites for receiving the bond refund then yes, you can apply to receive it back. If you are talking about a vendor account that you paid a fee for instead of a bond then no, the bond refund system does not apply.

Vendors buying previously to the new system being introduced paid a $150 FEE to obtain vending privileges.
Vendors buying after the new system was introduced are paying a $500 BOND to obtain vending privileges.

A fee, by definition, is money paid as part of a special transaction, e.g., for a privilege or for admission to something.
A bond, by definition, is a debt security under which the issuer owes the holder a debt and, depending on the terms of the bond, is obliged to repay the principal at a later date once those terms are met.

Libertas

I completely agree. Could you imagine being them? CONSTANTLY lurking, all parts of the forum, just looking for questions that need to be answered?! They both have helped me today as a matter of fact, and were beyond courteous and professional. Props for sure! Also, how to add or subtract karma???

I can't speak for scout, but personally I like to wear a cape and a mask while I'm working. It just makes me feel like I'm making more of a difference.

As far as your question goes, the ability to give somebody positive or negative karma will be given to you at 100 posts. You then simply click the new [thank] or [discourage] option underneath their avatar to award positive or negative karma.

who can you trust these days...I can trust you guys and only you guys.

Many thanks to the mods, admins and every user. I wish that i could meet you all IRL and shake your hand, but for obvious reasons that wont happen. I hope to see you all in the next life. Be easy and keep this thread going!

-JOS

I have to make a small correction there; you can trust NO ONE here. Everyone should be acting at all times as though everything is compromised in order to ensure that they do not slip up with their security measures. It is a well known fact that when you get more comfortable with something you get more sloppy with the measures you take to protect yourself from the dangers that may be presented by it. As DPR him/herself has stated back in June, 2011:

Hi everyone,
Things are going really well here.  There are many new buyers and sellers working well together, our servers are secure and humming along, and you may even start to feel comfortable.  DO NOT get comfortable!  This is not wal-mart, or even amazon.com.  It is the wild west and there are as many crooks as there are honest businessmen and women.  Keep your guard up and be safe, even paranoid.  If you buy from someone without reputation, get to know them really well through pm, and even then be suspicious.  Unfortunately it only takes one bad apple to spoil the bunch, and there are bad apples out there.  We've received some threatening messages and just want everyone to stay alert and careful.

Libertas

Don't mean to rude but from now on somebody will take care of these issues.  I'm not your Daddy or Momma, I'm not a babysitter.  We like everybody on the forums but if you act up your gone.  Your account will stay because thats no harm done, thanks.  I feel like I'm a preschool teacher, act like and adult or leave.

BlackStone, I have already addressed you on your alternate account (S13) in this thread: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=157076.0

Your spamming is starting to get out of hand. Please take some time to consider what you're posting before you post.

Libertas

Thanks! They also sent me a private message on here. I'm assuming that they just spam everyone then? That's so annoying.

They send PMs to users that are marked as 'online'. To prevent this go to your forum account settings and untick the box for "Show others my online status".

Libertas

S13 your posts are rapidly starting to amount to spam. Whilst freedom of speech is an inalienable right that everybody here enjoys, spam is not tolerated. Please refrain from spamming the forums.

Libertas

This topic has been moved to Security (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?board=3.0).

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=157019.0

I appreciate advice.  About an hour before I posted this, I placed an order and FE'd without even being asked to, but in the future I will Always take your advice and USE THE ESCROW system.

I want to clarify something that I said in my initial post, he didn't come out and say, I asked him to send money outside of escrow.  He does say that the order was for 150 and that he sent 150, but the dispute is over an order of 50.  Here are the details at the top of the Resolution Center:

Transaction details

    item: 50 Xanax 2mg bar's by Liston
    quantity: 1
    buyer: [retracted]
    seller: liston
    date shipped: April 17, 2013, *:33 am UTC
    due in: past due May 2, 2013, *:55 pm UTC

If the SR Admin reads our emails, he will see that Liston asked me to order 50, then send the balance of my BC account for the order of 150.  This is also supported by my transaction history, where you see an and order then a transfer:

send to    liston(97)    ฿-2.57    ฿0.00    April 17, 2013, *:18 am UTC
purchase    transaction #*********    ฿-2.05    ฿2.57    April 17, 2013, *:15 am UTC

I left out the exact times and trans # because I don't want to violate any rules by giving the specifics of my order, in case that could be used against SR or any of us.

I used your advice and added to the Resolution Center that the Admin should read our emails and that he violated the rules for sellers.

You have been an immense help and I suggest you go law school, if you haven't already.  You have a keen eye for the details and read and understand all the rules very thoroughly.   

By the way, can the SR Admin see my transaction details?  I have asked him to look at our emails, and my transaction records, because I assumed that was something the Admins could see.

NOTE
He marked it as shipped in the same hour, just 15 minutes after I sent him the transfer, which is common for him.   Might I add, this was a few hours after midnight in the Eastern Time Zone.

UPDATE
I added the following to the Resolution Center dispute between Liston and myself:

Admin,

After reading the rules and getting some advice, I consider the total amount of the order to be 4.62 Bitcoins. Liston clearly violated the terms he agreed to when becoming a vendor and thus, the total amount of the order which would constitute a 100% refund is 4.62 Bitcoins. I respectfully ask that you award me this amount, as the emails, transaction history, and the contents of this dispute here in the Resolutions Center prove that is the case.

send to liston(97) ฿-2.57 ฿0.00 April 17, 2013, 3:18 am UTC
purchase transaction #135c6500f7 ฿-2.05 ฿2.57 April 17, 2013, 3:15 am UTC


I am keeping my fingers crossed that Liston will see this, read the rules and realize his mistake and just send me back my BC.  I think I have already lost dollars, but I would like to get my total BC amount for the order back.

Once again, I am greatly appreciative of you and your lightening fast response to my concern in this matter.

The administrator will only consider the amount of Bitcoin that was held in escrow as contributing to the total amount of the order because that is the order that you made through the Silk Road order system. This is why staying in escrow is so important;once you send funds outside escrow there is literally nothing that can be done - they are gone.

A 100% refund will only constitute of the amount that was held in escrow but I hope you get a satisfactory result.

Locking this thread as resolved.

Libertas

Libertas,

You quoted him, did you actually read it? The first line says "UPDATE (4-23-2013)". That was two weeks ago... Before I was even interested. Since then I've seen his listing and much feedback posted about it, some as recent as a few hours. But as of today, the listing is gone. (It WAS there yesterday)

Thanks for trying to help, but my original question stands...

I did read it but it stands to reason that if he had something new to say about the situation such as "Group listings back at full capacity" or similar that he would update it there. I imagine he took down his listing either because he is very busy or because he didn't set the order quantity high enough again and they "ran out", as mentioned in that update. He is probably leaving the listing down until he can catch up on his workload.

Still though, the above is all conjecture on my part; your original question does indeed stand.

Libertas