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They're not even TRYING with this one.. A simply copy & paste job - it's almost offensive!

Libertas

So...I've been laying in bed for the past couple days due to a fractured ankle & decided to sit and think about SR & LE. I'm also on a plethora of substances right now...so bare with me.

The ENTIRE WORLD knows about SR. Law enforcement in over 100 countries have known for at least 2 years now.

I'm sitting here doing a bunch of meth-head calculations & the sheer number of government agencies that have to be investigating is ridiculous. I bet there's at least a couple THOUSAND of accounts on here that are made by LE from any country. Considering the time that they've known about SR, there could be LE-owned forum accounts that everybody thinks is a veteran of SR. People we respect here at SR...could potentially be some random cyber-pig just trying to blend in.

Respectable members of SR could simply be LE trying to be buddy-buddy with top vendors until they get close enough to BAM.

Given the sheer amount of people around the WORLD trying to shut SR down, it is highly likely that there are thousands of rats in our midst. Although, most of you must already know that.

Once again, I'm on multiple things right now so call me a paranoid dumbass if this is all stupid cause...idk.

You should be operating - at ALL times - as though the entire system is compromised. I'm not saying that it is, of course, but if you don't act like it is then you are likely to let your guard down at some stage. When you get comfortable you get lazy, and when you get lazy you get caught!

A great example of this is the use of PGP, or rather the lack thereof. A small number of vendor accounts were compromised today as a result of the vendors logging in to a phishing site that requested their username and passphrase; as a result of this, the person that runs the phishing site can see the addresses of any buyer that did NOT encrypt their address via PGP.

That is a very, very scary thought.

Libertas

Quote from: Libertas on May 10, 2013, 06:22 pm

Quote from: albionessential on May 10, 2013, 05:53 pm

Quote from: Tryptonite on May 10, 2013, 05:28 pm

@ Albion - Have you heard anything from SR support yet? I am in the same boat.

No, not yet. I've written them 4 letters on SR from 2 different accounts 24 hours ago,and been in contact with some moderators on here. My account is still up and running. There really should be a quicker way of dealing with these situations...

The messages from the 2 other accounts would unfortunately just be added to the queue of messages that Vendor Support have to get through. We have pushed this up the chain, and hopefully it will be sorted a few weeks sooner than usual.

I agree that it would be good to have a quicker way of dealing with these situations, however lets be honest, we're all high here, whether buyer FE'ing and getting scammed or vendor logging into a site that is not Silk Road and getting phished - I don't mean to rub salt in the wound or anything, but if something is not signed with DPR's public key, and verified as such, then you're a dumbass for believing it.

There's an entire page devoted to this on the Wiki - something that buyers and vendors should have read:

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php?title=Trust_and_phishing

Very sorry to hear that this has happened to you though, and I hope you can recover from it.

Libertas

Sounds about right mate.

Hmmmm...

Hey.  I made a purchase from a vendor that was hedged.  I understand that the hedge can work both ways.  However, I purchased two listings from a seller each for 1.99 BTC.  I received 1.50 BTC for each order when the vendor cancelled each order a couple of days later.  Upon inquiring about the cancellation, I was informed that the vendor had some error when he was creating the listing and ended up with six listings.  I am assuming he gained from the hedge since I lost money, but maybe I'm mistaken.  Regardless, I lost around $100 from a technical issue and I was wondering if it's just an SOL situation.  Thanks for your time.

Hi treesplees1,

That is actually how the hedging system works.

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php?title=Buyer%27s_Guide#Escrow_hedge

You receive back the USD amount of a hedged order, not the amount of the original order in BTC. If the value of Bitcoin decreases you receive more BTC back than you spent in order to bring it up to the USD amount you originally paid.

On the flip side of that, if the value of Bitcoin increases you receive less BTC back than you spent in order to bring it down to the USD amount you originally paid.

The amount you receive back will always be ~4% less than what you originally paid due to the escrow hedging fee that all hedged orders incur.

Libertas

Thanks for the response Libertas, I've sent you a PM.

"The above gives me cause for concern and leads me to believe that the problem is on BitStamp's end. If you checked your BitStamp address and it shows the BTC leaving that address, never reaching your SR address, and going to one you don't know as part of a larger transaction then that was not the SR tumbler and is something that BitStamp will have to address."

Okay, it seems we had a miscommunication about this bit. That is indeed what appears to have happened and I'd been assuming it was normal. (I also think I remember this happening on my previous transfer that worked, although I now can't seem to find details of it.)

I'd been assuming it wasn't possible that Bitstamp would just send my withdrawal to an entirely wrong address, but maybe they did?

Anyhow, I've been in contact with Bitstamp support (and just received as I've been typing: 'We've forwarded this issue to our system administrator who will look into it and get back to you'). I'll let you guys know what comes of it.

Apologies for any unfair maligning of Silk Road/its support.

Having checked this out I'm positive the problem is on BitStamp's end. There is no record at all of your deposit hitting your Silk Road address, which - as far as I'm aware - it would have before being withdrawn and tumbled. If Bitcoin are sent to an address they will ALWAYS reach it directly without any interference. If they could be interfered with on the way from one address to another the entire system would be insecure, pointless and completely open to attack.

I find BitStamp to be an excellent exchange but I have personally had to open up support tickets in the past there to have the odd withdrawal from my account pushed through manually. There are obviously occasional issues with whatever process they're using to send withdrawals automatically, but they are a very helpful exchange and they will certainly sort it out for you.

No need to apologise, I fully understand your frustration - it is YOUR money that is missing. Thankfully this is not a Silk Road fault, and I hope BitStamp get it sorted as soon as possible for you.

Libertas

Quote from: Tryptonite on May 10, 2013, 05:28 pm

@ Albion - Have you heard anything from SR support yet? I am in the same boat.

No, not yet. I've written them 4 letters on SR from 2 different accounts 24 hours ago,and been in contact with some moderators on here. My account is still up and running. There really should be a quicker way of dealing with these situations...

The messages from the 2 other accounts would unfortunately just be added to the queue of messages that Vendor Support have to get through. We have pushed this up the chain, and hopefully it will be sorted as soon as one of the administrators sees it.

I agree that it would be good to have a quicker way of dealing with these situations, however each individual is responsible for their own actions here, whether buyer FE'ing and getting scammed or vendor logging into a site that is not Silk Road and getting phished - I don't mean to rub salt in the wound or anything, but if something is not signed with DPR's public key, and verified as such, then it should not be trusted as being from Silk Road.

There's an entire page devoted to this on the Wiki - something that buyers and vendors should be reading regularly:

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php?title=Trust_and_phishing

Very sorry to hear that this has happened to you though, and I hope you can recover from it.

Libertas

They got around 85.000 USD from the first scam? holy shitty assholes oO

This happened when Bitcoin was valued at around the $220 mark so it had a considerably higher valuation at the time.

Libertas

It's now been over 48 hrs since I made my first deposit and still nothing. My support ticket will be coming up on 48 hrs very soon as well. I've been on SR for about a month checking everything out and know the url, so that is not a concern I have. I will keep everyone updated.

SR Support are currently swamped and it may unfortunately take a bit longer to reach your place in the queue. It would be great if you could let us know if / when it gets sorted out, thanks MrB08.

Libertas