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Thanks guys, interesting stuff....

Another question though, how much is the commission on sales? Presumably it's flat rate percentage?
I see that a vendor can choose to list items priced as pre-commission or post-commission, but I'm wondering what the actual rates are. Does it vary by category, price, etc?

Quote from: moksha on January 04, 2013, 12:45 pm

Been searching the wiki and the forums and can't seem to see the transaction fee %'s spelled out anywhere.

Anybody know them, or have a link\want to point me in the right direction?

Hi moksha,

The commission scale has been laid out on the forums a number of times but it always disappears in the haze of crazy posts! Here's an example from DPR's State of the Road Address:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=8397.0

Quote from: State of the Road Address on January 09, 2012, 03:56 am

We also went to the Silk Road independent sellers to see what they thought an appropriate commission schedule would look like.  The average response looked like this:

15% of the first $10
11% of $10 - $50
8.14% of $50 - $250
5.6% of $250 - $1000
3.7% of $1000 - $5000

We looked at past sales data and our current and future revenue needs and were able to bring these numbers down even further:

10% of the first $50
8.5% of $50 - 150
6% of $150 - 300
3% of $300 - 500
2% of $500 - 1000
1.5% for everything over $1000

So taking DPR's fee scale, here is how a sale is broken down:

In a $300 sale, for example:

$50 is charged at 10% of the first $50, so $5 fee.
$100 is charged at 8.5% of the next $50 - $100, so $8.50 fee.
$150 is charged at 6% of the final $150 - $300, so $9 fee.

Total: $300.
Total commission: $22.50
Total paid to vendor for item: $277.50
Total paid to vendor for item, if hedging order (@ 4% hedging fee): $266.40


In a $1016 sale, for example:

$50 is charged at 10% from the $0 - $50 point, so $5 fee.
$100 is charged at 8.5% from the $50 - $100 point, so $8.50 fee.
$150 is charged at 6% from the $150 - $300 point, so $9 fee.
$200 is charged at 3% from the $300 - $500 point, so $6 fee.
$500 is charged at 2% from the $500 - $1000 point, so $10 fee.
$16 is charged at 1.5% from the $1000 and up point, so $0.24 fee.

Total: $1016.
Total commission: $38.74
Total paid to vendor for item: $977.26
Total paid to vendor for item, if hedging order (@ 4% hedging fee): $938.17


You may also be interested in the post I wrote in response to a question asked by Bungee54 about pre-commission and post-commission pricing. That post explains how much you get if you choose pre-commission, how much you get if you choose post-commission, how much you get if you decide to hedge, and what the customer will actually see on the listing itself depending on the option you choose.
You can find that post here:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=37765.msg429683#msg429683

- grahamgreene

I guess I'll be bumping them with the images I have made.

I hope TOR supports IMGur.

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Quote from: scout on May 11, 2013, 09:38 pm

Quote from: mdma3000 on May 11, 2013, 08:35 am

k glad to hear i probably get all my money back  only thing now im concerned about is my perfect record 

Total transactions: 50
Total spent: ฿282.57
Refund rate: 0%
Auto-finalize rate: 0%
Member for: 1 year 

but fuck it there are worst things 

in these cases, the refund does NOT count against you. 

Scout, is that the official position of SR?

The reason I ask is because I had an order with a vendor who turned out to be a scammer. My order was safely in escrow and went to resolution and as the vendor had been banned, never entered the resolution process. I put in the notes that if the refund will count against me, that I don't want to be refunded. Once the resolution time expired, I received nil refund and as the vendor was banned, can assume this money went into SR's coffers. I messaged support and they said I received no refund because I said not to if it would affect my stats and that if I did get refunded it would have....

While I disagree with their decision due to the fact the vendor was a banned scammer, their judgment was acknowledge and accepted however in light of your comment, I'd like some clarification to ensure we're giving out the right information to others in the same situation.

mdma3000.... please accept my apologies for posting this in your thread!

Laissez-faire!

Maybe I am mistaken.  I read in the wiki:

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If one party does not propose any resolution by the due date, the most recent resolution provided by the present party will always be chosen. In this case, any refund granted will not be counted for buyer refund statistics.

And thought I had read somewhere else that refunds due to scams would not negatively affect the buyer's rating. 

I'm sure Libertas or SSBD will chime in.

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understandable man but in some cases the best of products available on here are only from sellers who want FE so its kind of like like it or lump it, my way or the high way