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Newbie discussion / Re: My BTC, your WU - Looking for today
« on: May 16, 2013, 04:02 pm »
Quote from: wellhidden10 on May 16, 2013, 03:51 pm
Looking to sell a little bitcoin for a $100 western union transfer.

1.29 bitcoins for this to happen soonish, lol =D Have a wallet with about $150 right now, just want to cash it out.


If you set up a listing and can do this today I will buy it now =D


Thanks

My SR username is wellhidden

Sales are NOT permitted without a Silk Road vendor account. You are attempting to sell Bitcoin for Western Union. You may do so when you purchase a vendor account.

Please see here:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/register_seller

Thread locked.

Libertas

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Newbie discussion / Re: What happend to BTC Buddy and Sugar Mama
« on: May 16, 2013, 03:58 pm »
Quote from: LoveTractor on May 16, 2013, 03:47 pm
Its crazy that SR lets this MF get away with it.

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php?title=Buyer%27s_Guide#Getting_Bitcoins
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Please note that, while there are many vendors offering to sell Bitcoins directly from this site, we are not set up to facilitate this and it is very easy to get scammed this way. Until we are set up for it, we recommend you get Bitcoins from a third-party exchange. If you do get scammed we will have no way to help you.

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php?title=Frequently_Asked_Questions#I_need_help_with_a_bitcoin_transaction_from_a_Silk_Road_vendor.
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I need help with a bitcoin transaction from a Silk Road vendor.

Unfortunately we do not offer support for these kinds of transactions because we cannot hold your payment in escrow. If there is an issue, you'll have to work it out directly with your vendor.

Libertas

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Newbie discussion / Re: What happend to BTC Buddy and Sugar Mama
« on: May 16, 2013, 03:56 pm »
Quote from: ladanum on May 16, 2013, 02:24 pm
Quote from: Libertas on May 16, 2013, 02:06 pm
I see nothing but good feedback on his account over the past while. Is the listing that you purchased still up? (As in the exact listing, not the same listing with no feedback on it)

Libertas

whats your point ?

Having read other member's posts about his modus operandi, I see the issue is not that he puts it 'in transit' and then cancels it, it is that he leaves the order in processing, then cancels it once he has emptied the MoneyPak.

I have reported this up to administrators, along with evidence of other threads where people have claimed they have been scammed dating back to August of last year.

However, please read the following sections of the SR Wiki:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php?title=Buyer%27s_Guide#Getting_Bitcoins

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php?title=Frequently_Asked_Questions#I_need_help_with_a_bitcoin_transaction_from_a_Silk_Road_vendor.

Libertas

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Silk Road discussion / Re: How to sell vendor account
« on: May 16, 2013, 03:55 pm »
Quote from: Operation Shulgin on May 16, 2013, 03:44 pm
Selling Vendor accounts is against the rules, so unless you want to buy an account and have it banned in no time i strongly suggest against it.

Just register a new account on Silkroad, login and navigate to "become a seller"

Good luck!  8)

Selling vendor accounts is no longer against the rules.

Quote from: eunoia on May 16, 2013, 03:37 pm
Can someone inform me on how vendor accounts are sold? I understand there is an auction, but don't know how to find it on SR.  Thanks.

If you wish to sell a vendor account, please see the following thread discussing the issue:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=160406.msg1133651#msg1133651

This was originally against the rules, but it's recently been clarified for me that this is now permitted, though ALL sales of ANY items or services must take place through the Silk Road ordering system on the main site.

A listing must be made on Silk Road listing the vendor account that is for sale.

If you wish to purchase a vendor account, please see the following pages, one from the SR Wiki and one from the main site:

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php?title=Seller%27s_Guide
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/register_seller

Libertas

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Product offers / Re: Vendor account for sale, if you Ccan you sell a vendors account?
« on: May 16, 2013, 03:43 pm »
Quote from: PuertoRico on May 16, 2013, 03:30 pm
Thanks again. Everyone who inputted to this, especially Libertas. You have been a great help.

Thread finished here really. I will book mark the links and give them a read.

Cheers.

You're very welcome! :)

Libertas

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Product offers / Re: Vendor account for sale, if you Ccan you sell a vendors account?
« on: May 16, 2013, 03:26 pm »
Quote from: PuertoRico on May 16, 2013, 03:14 pm
for the hassle its worth, the paranoia its caused, it seems a much smarter move to just take the listings down (once orders are complete) and forget about it. It does seem that its only going to cause trouble for an account that cant really be worth anything to anyone but a scammer who is trying to bypass the bond.

For those reasons wdf is the point, fuck scammers no way im going to allow anyone to help potential scammers.

One last question actually, how long until the account is just deleted?

*if put into stealth with no activity, no listings and no logging in? just so to know its gone for good would help him. (basically dont deal in real life and SR if your not pro enough the paranoia will kill your soul as I am seing in a friend I hold dearly to me so really gota sort this out for him)


Thanks for all the input, I will pass the information on. Cheers

The SR Wiki has this to say on the matter:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php?title=Frequently_Asked_Questions#Will_my_account_be_deleted_for_inactivity.3F

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Will my account be deleted for inactivity?

Accounts with zero balance will be archived if not logged into for several months. If you suspect your account has been archived, try creating a new user with the same name. If you cannot, then the account still exists.

A former vendor just brought the issue up today in support though, a topic which you can find here:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=160157.0

Libertas

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Newbie discussion / Re: Newbie needs help
« on: May 16, 2013, 03:20 pm »
Adding to what pakchoi23 has already stated (thank you, pakchoi23!), please read the Buyer's Guide here:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php?title=Buyer%27s_Guide

And the F.A.Q. here:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php?title=Frequently_Asked_Questions

Libertas

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Silk Road discussion / Re: Need advice
« on: May 16, 2013, 03:14 pm »
Quote from: 1mIcedout on May 16, 2013, 03:02 pm
[SNIP]

Libertas has proven himself to be a calm, informative, level headed mod and a real asset to the forums.

Libertas, when your name popped up in the customer support thread answering some questions a couple weeks ago I had to flick Scout and SSBD a message to see if you were actually a mod or just some mad forum user dishing out some advise. Since then I have seen you deal with a lot on here and give out some very solid advise to those in need.

Keep up the good work bro...

Thanks to those that contributed something worth reading to the thread...

Thank you very much for the kind words, 1mIcedout. They're much appreciated! :)

Libertas

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Product offers / Re: Vendor account for sale, if you Ccan you sell a vendors account?
« on: May 16, 2013, 03:11 pm »
Quote from: Tellemetree on May 16, 2013, 02:39 pm
You see what I mean though Libertas, right?

There is no need for a legit vendor to pay a premium and get past the rules, only legit purpose I can see it to scam.

FE rules aside, I know thats correct, but, reality is this sort of thing WILL catch newbies. We all know that.

I think rep and good feedback and so on is something a vendor should have to EARN and it counts for alot in decision making on the buyers part. Most vendors are PROUD of having good stats and to know they could just buy those same stats (a years hard work say) for a few hundred bucks kind of undermines the whole thing imho.

Sucks you can't do anything to prevent it as it seems you fundamentally agree.

I do completely see where you're coming from, but at the same time, when you start regulating a free market, where do you stop?! It becomes a very slippery slope. :-\

Yes, this sort of thing likely will catch newbies; however, as I stated, each and every person here is responsible for their own actions - whether they are new members or not.
DPR's welcome message (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/about) even states:

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Always use the escrow system! This can't be stressed enough. 99% of scams are from people who set up fake vendor accounts and ask buyers to pay them directly or release payment before their order arrives. This behavior should be reported immediately. If you do choose to do this, we will be completely unable to help you in the event of fraud.

So whilst I fully agree with you from a security and anti-scam perspective, I fully agree with DPR from a libertarian perspective; the latter must always take precedent over the former: "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."

Libertas

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Newbie discussion / Re: BTC buddy is a piece of shit
« on: May 16, 2013, 02:45 pm »
The "do not reply" message was likely a link to the Buyer's Guide.

It states in the Buyer's Guide (and the F.A.Q.), which every buyer should have read by now, that Silk Road cannot take responsibility for these kinds of transcations.

Please read the following:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php?title=Buyer%27s_Guide#Getting_Bitcoins

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Please note that, while there are many vendors offering to sell Bitcoins directly from this site, we are not set up to facilitate this and it is very easy to get scammed this way. Until we are set up for it, we recommend you get Bitcoins from a third-party exchange. If you do get scammed we will have no way to help you.

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php?title=Frequently_Asked_Questions#I_need_help_with_a_bitcoin_transaction_from_a_Silk_Road_vendor.
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I need help with a bitcoin transaction from a Silk Road vendor.

Unfortunately we do not offer support for these kinds of transactions because we cannot hold your payment in escrow. If there is an issue, you'll have to work it out directly with your vendor.

I will report it up to the administrators in any event.

Libertas

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Newbie discussion / Re: What happend to BTC Buddy and Sugar Mama
« on: May 16, 2013, 02:40 pm »
Quote from: ladanum on May 16, 2013, 02:24 pm
Quote from: Libertas on May 16, 2013, 02:06 pm
Quote from: ladanum on May 16, 2013, 01:50 pm
well btc buddy ripped me off finally canceled my order i feel dumb most likely taking in alot while "sugar mama" is on vaca do not send your mp to this guy (or anyone else ) he just takes the number redeems it immediately i checked makes you wait 4 days then cancels  ::) what an asshole karma will bite you in the ass

oh and i sent support a ticket and i got a "do not reply" with a broken link thanx silk road why they allow this to continue baffles me i honestly think silk road own these accounts and that's how they make more money

 >:( im mad but ill get over it prob done with silk road nothin but trouble




Very sorry to hear that, ladanum. Have you reported this via the 'report this vendor' button on their account page?

Libertas


yah but he wont get banned hes done this to quite a few people and still has 100 feedback

I see nothing but good feedback on his account over the past while. Is the listing that you purchased still up? (As in the exact listing, not the same listing with no feedback on it)

Libertas

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Silk Road discussion / Re: BEWARE of [ Rosetta -- Silk Road News ] obvious SCAM
« on: May 16, 2013, 02:30 pm »
Quote from: Tellemetree on May 16, 2013, 02:12 pm
Quote from: Libertas on May 16, 2013, 01:42 pm
Yep, this is a scam, just for those who may be wondering about its legitimacy. Silk Road will NEVER send you messages like these.

Libertas

Looks like its a new customer service rep from SR.

You know, it IS a big call center and all. Must be hard manning the phones and dealing with all those SR enquiries.

I shouldn't joke, but I'd hope less fall for this than even bitswing.

Indeed!

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Product offers / Re: Vendor account for sale, if you Ccan you sell a vendors account?
« on: May 16, 2013, 02:30 pm »
Quote from: Tellemetree on May 16, 2013, 02:18 pm
Is there any way at all that the potential buyer will be vetted to ensure they aren't just going to immediately scam 30 times the amount.

All it does is allow the new buyer to fool potential customers, I don't see any real upside here for SR as a whole.

Sets a shitty precedent imho.

I get it might not break the rules, but unless its declared its a new owner (and then there is no real value) then its only upside to the new owner is to scam or mislead, right?

Am I missing the point here?

As far as I know, no, potential buyers will not be vetted. It goes against the unregulated nature of the free market to regulate the sale of accounts, so I presume that is why it is allowed here, and I fully agree with that. From a security point of view it is a bad idea, but everyone is responsible for their own security and risks that they wish to take. Some may argue that it could cause harm to people, but so can a drug overdose; both have legitimate uses rather than their intent being to cause harm, so neither are restricted.

I fully agree with you that it's fraught with risk for buyers, but Silk Road recommends that buyers do not Finalise Early. If they choose to do so despite those recommendations, who is at fault but themselves when they fall for a FE scam? ??? Personal responsibility is a prerequisite for operating in a free market. People need to take responsibility for their own actions, and not blame their misfortunes on the actions of others when there is an escrow system put in place to mitigate the risk of such misfortune.

Libertas

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Customer support / Re: What to do about my outstanding order with Liston.
« on: May 16, 2013, 02:18 pm »
Locking as resolved.

Libertas

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Customer support / Re: my seller status account got pruned/deleted from inactivity
« on: May 16, 2013, 02:17 pm »
Locking as directed to SR Support.

Libertas

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