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The proper way would likely be to use a coin washing service, or deposit and withdraw from somewhere that the coins going in and out aren't the same.  You're adding transaction fees unfortunately every time you do. People won't likely check your small transaction.

The blockchain doesn't go away.  You can look at it at blockchain.info

Excellent advice, 013517!

Libertas

how long does it normally take to get onto silk road>?

Hi gpgbuisman,

Please read the SR Wiki in full, as it contains answers to 99% of the questions you'll have:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page

Why isn't my deposit showing up in my account?

It can take up to 6 hours for a deposit to be confirmed on the blockchain, processed, and credited to your Silk Road account. If your deposit still hasn't shown up, first check that it is showing up on the blockchain by searching for your deposit address on a site like blockchain.info. If your transfer doesn't appear here, then it was never sent and you need to find out why from the person or organization who initiated the transfer. If the transfer does appear, then there could be a problem on our end and you should contact us.

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php?title=Frequently_Asked_Questions#Why_isn.27t_my_deposit_showing_up_in_my_account.3F

Libertas

I ordered 1 gram of BK-MDMA and 1 gram of raw columbian cocaine from CashMachine and despite the vendor boasting next day dispatch he has kept my money in escrow for 3 days.
Is there any way that these orders can be cancelled now, rather than 2 days time, so i can actually get my gear before i run out?

Help would be appreciated,
Astrona

Hi Astrona,

Vendors have 4 days (96 hours) to process an order. If they do not process it within this time frame, you will have the option to cancel it. There is no other way to cancel the order, apart from messaging the vendor and asking them to do so.

Please refer to the SR Wiki:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php?title=Frequently_Asked_Questions#Order_questions

Thread locked as resolved.

Libertas

so if i try this last PIN attempt and it doesn't work will i lose  my funds in my account

No, your funds will be fine. However, if the reason that your PIN is not working is because you logged in at a site other than silkroadvb5piz3r.onion then it is likely your account has been phished and the phishers changed your PIN. You should follow through with the PIN reset process regardless.

Remember, Silk Road will never ask you for your PIN at login, and the ONLY Silk Road site URL is silkroadvb5piz3r.onion

Please read the following page on the SR Wiki:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php?title=Trust_and_phishing

Libertas

Maybe I'm not being clear enough for you.  Here is the message, that everyone who chose escrow received from the vendor:

Hey thanks for the order! Once you let me know which strain you would like it will be all ready to go. Your current choices are Girl Scout Cookies, Larry 18 and some great Flower Bomb, just let us know what you would like as soon as possible. We'll send it out tomorrow once we see you have finalized, you may then contact us any time after that with your order number for your shipping and tracking number. If you've got any other questions feel free to message us back.

Best regards,
Cali

As you can see, he clearly states, "We'll send it out tomorrow once we see you have finalized".  Hence, he did not send it.  He refuses to respond to anyone who replies that they won't finalize early.  Those are his words not conjecture.

I understand the process and why it works.  If the vendor was clever, he would have replied that those that don't finalize early will experience delays or something to that extent and then the delay for investigation would make sense.  But he didn't.  He clearly states it will be sent out when finalized.  His words no mine.

In that case, the established process is to message the vendor asking if they will cancel your order; if they refuse to do so, you may cancel it yourself after 4 days. However, if they put it 'in transit', than you take it to resolution after 10 days and explain the situation to the administrator, including any evidence that may help your case.

That will now not need to be done - as the vendor has been suspended, you will simply need to request a 100% refund.

I know you might think it is a simple process to match up messages and read every one of them where the vendor has stated to buyers that they will need to finalise, but given how slow things actually are when using Tor and the huge volume of messages that an administrator would have to go through (along with checking the order that the message relates to in order to see which shipping option was selected and if the vendor is right to send such a message) it is simply not possible to do that.

In any event: wait the 10 days, hit 'resolve' and request a 100% refund.

Libertas

canadianknowledge  can anyone tell me about this Vender other that what i already know . I placed orderd with them and then they CLOSED UP SHOP . now that does not mean that they have done anything wrong ok . Yet a short mesg, were closed and the oders they have coin on and nothing to the people that have just made an order well not cool for me to know what your doing for us so please let us all  know SIR , if anyone knows of or about these folks and is there word good then please ease my mind ..on this VENDER someone ...  Thank YOU !

If you did not FE and you do not receive your order within 10 days you can place it into resolution and request a full refund. If you did FE, then there is nothing that Silk Road can do to help you in this instance.

Libertas

I understand that SR should protect both.  But when a simple reading of the vendor's outgoing messages shows he won't send to customers who use escrow, what else do you need to know.  Those who used escrow should be refunded because it's a material fact (not conjecture) that an item was marked in transit and not sent and that escrow was never a real option.  Those are all facts.  If there was any claim by the vendor (not in this case as demonstrated by his own messages) that an attempt was made, I could understand the wait time.  It literally takes 15 minutes to match the messages to the customers in escrow to see this.

In is NOT a material fact that an item was marked in transit and not sent, regardless of the shipping options ("FE for free express, FE for priority or priority in escrow", according to your previous post). Silk Road advises against Finalising Early for ANY reason, but if buyers wish to do so, they are taking that risk on their own bat. Escrow was an option in this case as you stated yourself: "priority in escrow" was a shipping option, and presumably the one that you chose as you did not FE according to the vendor's shipping policies. If you chose a different shipping option that did require FE, but chose not to do so, then you did not follow the vendor's shipping policies making your entire argument a moot point whatever way you look at it.

As I stated previously, vendors that have 35+ transactions and have been selling here for one month or more are entitled to ask you to FE before sending, therefore if a message was sent asking you to FE because you had chosen a "FE shipping option", that would be normal and not reasonable grounds for an administrator to believe that a vendor is scamming.

If you have read DPR's statement on the Support Delays in the main Silk Road discussion forum, you will know that SR Support is currently very backed up. If you have not, I would recommend that you do so. It would take a lot longer than 15 minutes to go checking messages from vendors to individuals, then examining each order to see whether the buyer was required by the vendor's shipping policies for each individual order to FE before shipping or not, so please do not assume that it can all be done with the flick of a wrist.

The system that is currently in place is the best way of dealing with situations like this one when they arise. If you believe there would be a better way to handle it, feel free to start a thread in the Feature requests forum with your suggestions and if they have merit they will be taken into consideration.

Libertas